View Full Version : NES ZELDA III PROTOTYPE??????????????
devils advocate
10-20-2005, 02:12 PM
You can't really warn the bidders. Ebay is Caveat Emptor. Buyer Beware. Any contact to the bidders would be auction interference.
However, It is against Ebay rules to list prototypes for sale. If someone would contact them, they would probably pull the auction.
Just so people know, his blog states that he works at cash converters in Winnipeg. There is only one. I think I may know who he is, as I shop there occassionally.
Truffle
10-20-2005, 02:13 PM
There even apears to be a couple dents in the left side of the casing.
:roll:
digital_minority
10-20-2005, 02:29 PM
You can't really warn the bidders. Ebay is Caveat Emptor. Buyer Beware. Any contact to the bidders would be auction interference.
However, It is against Ebay rules to list prototypes for sale. If someone would contact them, they would probably pull the auction.
Just so people know, his blog states that he works at cash converters in Winnipeg. There is only one. I think I may know who he is, as I shop there occassionally.
How is it against eBay to list prototypes? I see them there all the time..
rbudrick
10-20-2005, 02:37 PM
Just so people know, his blog states that he works at cash converters in Winnipeg. There is only one. I think I may know who he is, as I shop there occassionally.
It would be absolutely hilarious if you went and grilled him on it in person.
Is it really a surprise that he works in a pawn shop? Typical, really.
-Rob
digital_minority
10-20-2005, 02:45 PM
"Okay, i'm getting a lot of flak about the legitamacy of this cart. If, and I mean IF this cart is not the real deal, I will make it up to you. Even though this item is being sold 'as-is,' I am willing to compensate by exchanging for an item (or items) of equal or greater value.
In doing so, you would have to prove to me it is a fake. This way, either you pop it in your machine and have one of the worlds rarest games, or you get something else worth more than auction's end in exchange. Everyone is happy."
He updated the page!
I wonder what he'll make up the auction with..
n8littlefield
10-20-2005, 03:48 PM
"Okay, i'm getting a lot of flak about the legitamacy of this cart. If, and I mean IF this cart is not the real deal, I will make it up to you. Even though this item is being sold 'as-is,' I am willing to compensate by exchanging for an item (or items) of equal or greater value.
In doing so, you would have to prove to me it is a fake. This way, either you pop it in your machine and have one of the worlds rarest games, or you get something else worth more than auction's end in exchange. Everyone is happy."
He updated the page!
I wonder what he'll make up the auction with..
Probably Korn CD's.
digital_minority
10-20-2005, 03:50 PM
Probably Korn CD's.
Haha probably.. His duplicates..
Prototype Korn CDs..
digital_minority
10-20-2005, 03:52 PM
Even if it is fake, which it probably is, you must admit: the buyer would get a piece of history.. Look at all the discussions surrounding his little scheme..
rbudrick
10-20-2005, 03:55 PM
Even if it is fake, which it probably is, you must admit: the buyer would get a piece of history.. Look at all the discussions surrounding his little scheme..
No, they wouldn't be. History should be based on truths. Would a fake Mona Lisa be history? No.
Sure, plenty of history is based on lies...but we only know this when the truth is discovered. ;) That being the case, if this turns ou to be fake, as I suspect, it is not a piece of history, just a piece of shit.
-Rob
evil_genius
10-20-2005, 04:06 PM
Hmmmmm, stranger things have happened I suppose. I wonder how this story will end. Let's watch and see... :-P
shoes23
10-20-2005, 04:13 PM
Even if it is fake, which it probably is, you must admit: the buyer would get a piece of history.. Look at all the discussions surrounding his little scheme..
No, they wouldn't be. History should be based on truths. Would a fake Mona Lisa be history? No.
Sure, plenty of history is based on lies...but we only know this when the truth is discovered. ;) That being the case, if this turns ou to be fake, as I suspect, it is not a piece of history, just a piece of shit.
-Rob
Agreed. That fact that he is willing to try and sway bidders with a guarantee, mind you not a refund either, he just states that you will get something of equal value, should throw red flags up immediatly. This is a hoax, a fraud, a scam, people shouldn't touch this auction with a ten foot pole.
goatdan
10-20-2005, 04:50 PM
How is it against eBay to list prototypes? I see them there all the time..
It is against eBay rules to list prototypes.
Ebay just sucks ass when it comes to policing themselves. They only pull auctions when they feel like it, and even if you are the proper copyright holder, they sometimes won't pull pirated material for you.
Assholes.
Man, this guys giving my town a bad name....
I'm disgusted.
devils advocate
10-20-2005, 05:57 PM
Even if it is fake, which it probably is, you must admit: the buyer would get a piece of history.. Look at all the discussions surrounding his little scheme..
No, they wouldn't be. History should be based on truths. Would a fake Mona Lisa be history? No.
Sure, plenty of history is based on lies...but we only know this when the truth is discovered. ;) That being the case, if this turns ou to be fake, as I suspect, it is not a piece of history, just a piece of shit.
-Rob
Agreed. That fact that he is willing to try and sway bidders with a guarantee, mind you not a refund either, he just states that you will get something of equal value, should throw red flags up immediatly. This is a hoax, a fraud, a scam, people shouldn't touch this auction with a ten foot pole.
If it turns out to be value-less, and he gives the buyer something of equal value as compensation, what exactly would the compensation be? ... Nothing? LOL
Dethruhate
10-20-2005, 07:27 PM
Hey all
I was watching this auction, and came across this board regarding it.
One of the things here to keep in mind relates to a math term, expected value. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt and say he doesn't know what it is. IF (big if) it is an ultra rare Zelda 3 game, that noone has ever heard of, and has been kept under ultra tight lock and key, it could be worth not just thousands, but 10s of thousands of dollars.
But if its nothing, then its worth maybe 2 bucks.
If we assign the probability that it is something at even 1.5%, and its potential worth at 25000, and not zelda 3 at 98.5% and worth of 2 bucks, its expected value is (.015*25000 + .985*2) = $376.97. As soon as he pops it into a NES and checks he knows and its most most likely worth nothing, but might be worth somethign, like a lottery ticket. If he doestn' want to take that chance, and pass this Schroedingers box onto someone else, from a math, actuarial, insurance point of view, its expected value is 376.97, which is far less than the 190 its at right now. So really, if you give it a half a percent chance of being real, its at about a fair price at the moment. Its like an contest where you can buy a 10 dollar ticket for a 1 in 10 chance of winning $100.
I've got a few bucks lying around and was gonna buy it up for up to $50, based on my estimates of the odds. 200 is too much for me, but if someone else has information that might lead to higher odds (which would explain the continued bidding, and if someone else is willing to take that chance off his hands; then thats their prerogative.
DreamTR
10-20-2005, 07:35 PM
Oh my god, this is not real. Holy crap. IF anyone even fathoms there being a "chance" of it being real needs to be educated BADLY.
XxMe2NiKxX
10-20-2005, 07:38 PM
Simply put, this guy is fully aware that if it was prototype it would bring in the cash. No one is stupid enough to jip themselves out of potentially thousands of dollars. Obviuosly fake.
Dethruhate
10-20-2005, 07:42 PM
Noone is willing to jip themselves out of thousands? I work in insurance, in insurance we take in a couple hundred bucks at the risk of having to pay out hundreds of thousands or millions doing things like underwriting and such. Its about doing it enough times; if you do with the right odds, you'll lose a lot of times, but over the long run you come out ahead.
devils advocate
10-20-2005, 08:28 PM
Noone is willing to jip themselves out of thousands? I work in insurance, in insurance we take in a couple hundred bucks at the risk of having to pay out hundreds of thousands or millions doing things like underwriting and such. Its about doing it enough times; if you do with the right odds, you'll lose a lot of times, but over the long run you come out ahead.
Maybe your IP should be checked...... Are you from Manitoba?? LOL
Dethruhate
10-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Nope, but I'm a hopeless believer in the most remote of chances (bigfoot, nessie, the sox last year) coming through and suprising the hell out of you.
alm0stfinished
10-20-2005, 09:08 PM
How is it against eBay to list prototypes? I see them there all the time..
here's a message they sent me.
Dear alm0stfinished,
Thank you for your recent auction-style listing on eBay. Unfortunately, we removed the following item(s) for violating our Software Licensing Issues policy:
8227288500 - Yellow Zelda Test Cartridge NES Nintendo RARE
The following information may help explain the reason for your listing(s) removal:
eBay prohibits the sale or purchase of software which is offered in violation of a license or user agreement. Software usually comes with licensing restrictions that limit where and when the software can be sold. Some common types of software with license agreement restrictions include academic software, beta software, and OEM software. It is illegal and against eBay policy to violate the softwares licensing agreement. Please verify with the manufacturer that you are licensed to sell this software.Beta, test, and evaluation copies of software are not permitted on eBay. These are early copies of software distributed by software developers strictly for the purpose of evaluation and troubleshooting.For more information on Software Licensing Issues visit the following Help page:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/beta.htmlYour eBay fees for this item have been credited to your account. All bidders on this item have been notified of its cancellation.
Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension.
eBay understands that it can be frustrating to have a listing removed. If you have further questions, you can take the following steps:
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Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
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goatdan
10-20-2005, 10:19 PM
How is it against eBay to list prototypes? I see them there all the time..
here's a message they sent me.
Dear alm0stfinished,
Thank you for your recent auction-style listing on eBay. Unfortunately, we removed the following item(s) for violating our Software Licensing Issues policy:
8227288500 - Yellow Zelda Test Cartridge NES Nintendo RARE
Yup, and you know what's cute? Sometimes, people are illegally selling pirated copies of things that you own the rights for. So you contact eBay about it, and instead of them removing it, they tell you that you cannot prove that it is large enough -- probably because there isn't a team of lawyers ready to attack them :(
An alternative to eBay needs to be made, one that has customer service and enforces their own policies fairly.
Li Wang
10-20-2005, 11:06 PM
No one noticed the label is the *exact same* shape, layout, font, etc as his actual typed out description in the auction?
I just wish it wasn't a Courier font so he could be totally owned. According to the auction page's source, the font is Courier New. From what I can tell from the picture that is indeed the font on the printed label. The first version of Courier New was released with Windows 3.1 in 1992. It does look printed from a computer, but the argument could be made (by the scammer) that it wasn't since Courier was meant to replicate the font of typewriters.
rayearthknight
10-20-2005, 11:07 PM
Well, now he's offering two rings:
On 20-Oct-05 at 22:49:28 EDT, seller added the following information:
OK, the added bonus will two mens rings, total combined weight of 19.2 grams. These are 10k gold (stamped).
I am now on the main page of joystiq.com. w00t. Looks like my 15 minutes have begun..
I still am not guarenteeing anything, it's more of a mystery than a doubt right about now..
The value of these are over $200, so even if you blow $200 on the cart, you'll get something in exchange. This is what i was talking about earlier when i said i'd exchange for something of equal or greater value (so the whole exchage thing is.. this. Basically, this is thrown in and mailed to you securely at auction's end, and the exchanging is out of the question.
http://storage.msn.com/x1pkqY8sUaqsi80gJacE49cYLiKjhxNmwrI7C4SEEdZ2a4jirS kjYakBoaNWWB5DR8dCPqIbYln6IkKD1D_ZpZQaCo0wDl6coOqe Hcei8qhbNyDAPgwH3yh-WwTCpGpoKE5AZvsfK3AEvRpFywzf1i-Ww
That's a link to the picture. Bid at your own risk, although I can guarentee these are a bit over 19 grams of gold. Happy bidding!!! Flame me at:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72610&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=ef11541f104ad1ffb7dca8a2921a65fa
with any questions..
So...instead of the game the bidder would want...he offers rings. Might as well have the auction for the rings (where's the picture of these rings, anyway?) and throw the "prototype" in to the deal
portnoyd
10-20-2005, 11:16 PM
Someone's backpedaling like crazy.
Sardius
10-20-2005, 11:35 PM
LINK SNIPPED BECAUSE IT BREAKS THE TABLES HERE LIKE CRAZY (http://storage.msn.com/x1pkqY8sUaqsi80gJacE49cYLiKjhxNmwrI7C4SEEdZ2a4jirS kjYakBoaNWWB5DR8dCPqIbYln6IkKD1D_ZpZQaCo0wDl6coOqe Hcei8qhbNyDAPgwH3yh-WwTCpGpoKE5AZvsfK3AEvRpFywzf1i-Ww)
That's a link to the picture. Bid at your own risk, although I can guarentee these are a bit over 19 grams of gold.
So is that a picture of the scale he cuts his coke on?
Because then things would make a LOT more sense.
goatdan
10-21-2005, 01:17 AM
Since now the thread is linked, I think that the title should be changed to:
NES ZELDA PROTO = FAKE! PROOF INSIDE!
Then at least if anyone cares to look, they'll know what the general thought of the proto collectors on here is...
unbroken
10-21-2005, 01:45 AM
Is there anyway we can contact Ben Smith to see if there was an actual zelda 3 proto?
I'm not saying this is it, but i'd love to hear if there was an actual copy of this game somewhere.
rbudrick
10-21-2005, 01:56 AM
I'm not going to contact Ben on this. It is a fake, plain and simple. Let it lie.
-Rob
Lothars
10-21-2005, 02:09 AM
Man it's like a 192 that's insane
what a ripoff
I doubt that it's anything special especially from the pictures.
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 02:11 AM
Is there anyway we can contact Ben Smith to see if there was an actual zelda 3 proto?
I'm not saying this is it, but i'd love to hear if there was an actual copy of this game somewhere.
There is a Zelda III proto, and that's what he's banking on. Look back a page or two, there's a picture.
jajaja
10-21-2005, 03:36 AM
Some interresting reading here:
http://www.ratedo.com/articles/z3proto.html
Check the articlescan. Are those screenshots from Links Awakening for Gameboy? I havnt played it so I cant tell.
It doesnt seem impossible to me. I would love to try the ROM if it was out there.
hezeuschrist
10-21-2005, 03:38 AM
The auctions been pulled.
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 04:21 AM
*suspense*
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 04:30 AM
The auctions been pulled.
DUDE, check out his http://spaces.msn.com/members/vav00m/ MSN space!
Li Wang
10-21-2005, 04:40 AM
That screenshot looks like something made in Mario Paint.
Or perhaps Nesticle...
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 04:45 AM
yeah the blue is pretty hard on the eyes..
..but what if?
Daltone
10-21-2005, 04:53 AM
The plot thickens... although all I can really clearly make out from that is the word "Zelda" with "The Legend Of" above and "The Triforce Saga" (?) below if I squint a bit. Not exactly conclusive proof. Still, I'm enjoying this thread so far, so I'm hoping that this gets a reaction =)
My thoughts on this.. either this guy doesn't really care about proving himself right to a bunch of (faceless) doubters or, as most of the evidence seems to point to, he's just enjoying the attention and is talking out of his arse.
It would certainly be interesting if he did actually have a legit proto.
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 04:58 AM
The plot thickens... although all I can really clearly make out from that is the word "Zelda" with "The Legend Of" above and "The Triforce Saga" (?) below if I squint a bit. Not exactly conclusive proof. Still, I'm enjoying this thread so far, so I'm hoping that this gets a reaction =)
The plot, indeed, thickens. How far will he ride a lie? Did he plan on pulling his item 2/3 of the way into it before he even listed it, because he KNEW it was real? Do we have a priceless relic on our hands? QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS...
This is going to make it very hard for me to sleep tonight?
Daltone
10-21-2005, 05:07 AM
The plot, indeed, thickens. How far will he ride a lie?
My thoughts entirely.
Being awake for 30 hours makes everything seem far more fun LOL
Out of curiosity - you're not the seller are you? Yeah, sleep -_-
EdEdison
10-21-2005, 05:18 AM
When it was first listed on eBay, I was thinking Yeah... right. If you look closely enough the photograph on his TV set does indeed say "Zelda - The Triforce Saga". It has my curiosity peeked!
Dimitri
10-21-2005, 05:20 AM
I'll try get gameplay shots in ASAP
Guess that means he's trying to work on his Mario Paint skills before he posts another "screenshot." ;)
I notice he linked this very thread on there as well. Perhaps he'll read this: Take the shot a little closer to the TV, fool.
Arkaign
10-21-2005, 05:22 AM
EDIT : LOL I should read the new posts first heh.
I hope we learn more about this!
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 05:30 AM
The plot, indeed, thickens. How far will he ride a lie?
My thoughts entirely.
Being awake for 30 hours makes everything seem far more fun LOL
Out of curiosity - you're not the seller are you? Yeah, sleep -_-
You think I would risk my reputation, feedback, and allow people to find information on my personal life (address, work information, friends) if i had a potential money-making scam? Relax, no one's that stupid. Well, almost no one. That's like a terrorist sending anthrax through the mail with his ACTUAL return address. lmao.. Fun times.. I've been watching this VERY closely these past few hours, and it looks like his ''15 minutes of fame'' are on the decline. The world can rest again..
pragmatic insanester
10-21-2005, 06:13 AM
someone link me to that NES productions site. i need to get a few roms slapped into carts.
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 07:10 AM
someone link me to that NES productions site. i need to get a few roms slapped into carts.
Idea! If he actually had the zelda proto cart, he could dump the rom (provided he was clever enough to do so), burn the ROM onto cds (or some other media.. floppy disks'll work too.. heh), and sell THOSE on eBay for hundreds of dollars...
...provided it's legit. That way he would not only get his $200 token, but also keep his original cart. Problem solved?
joshnickerson
10-21-2005, 08:26 AM
That screenshot looks like something made in Mario Paint.
Or perhaps Nesticle...
Dude, it is SO Mario Paint. Just check out the shitty mountain behind the even shittier Triforce image. And that nice wavy line that goes down the "Z" in Zelda. And the fact the "A" in Saga goes off the edge of the screen. He must have spent a whole ten minutes on it. If you wanted to scam people, you could have spent a bit more time on the presentation. Jerk.
Ulticron
10-21-2005, 09:10 AM
Problem solved. It appears ebay gave the auction the good ol axe and he won't be selling that to anyone.
jajaja
10-21-2005, 09:12 AM
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000357064460
Hehe, they say its legit proven now just because of a blurry screenshot. The colors doesnt really look very "NESish" either. If he have a camera handy it should only take a few sec to take some in-game screens and it still isnt been done.
I acctualy do belive in the story that ratedo.com has. It doesnt seem too impossible. But then again, I would like to see some real proof that it excist.
rayearthknight
10-21-2005, 09:40 AM
That screenshot looks like something made in Mario Paint.
Or perhaps Nesticle...
I SERIOUSLY doubt that Shigero Miyamoto would allow a flagship title--not to mention one of his prized concepts--like Zelda to go out with a title screen like that. The Zelda games have always had some form of animation in thier titles. This screenshot is too bland to be real
poloplayr
10-21-2005, 09:49 AM
and why just ONE photo...
Arkaign
10-21-2005, 10:01 AM
Say what you want about this guy, but he has *mostly* awesome taste in movies ;) I'm gonna put astericks next to the ones that I think were great (not just decent)
"Fav. Movies
Dawn Of The Dead
The Boy In The Plastic Bubble
*Napoleon Dynamite
Saw
*Memento
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
*Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Butterfly Effect
Sin City
CKY / Jackass / Steve-o
*American Psycho
Natural Born Killers
*Vanilla Sky"
jajaja
10-21-2005, 10:04 AM
and why just ONE photo...
Thats the same question I asked myself. I mean, when he had a camera and took that pic why not take a bunch more of in-game screens too?
Chronodriftersx
10-21-2005, 10:05 AM
Just check out the shitty mountain behind the even shittier Triforce image. And that nice wavy line that goes down the "Z" in Zelda. And the fact the "A" in Saga goes off the edge of the screen. Jerk.
I have unhuman eyes and I'll tell you I took this as a peninsula and the sea rather than a mountain and sky. Either your right about the word saga or after the word saga is a heart with a circle around it followed by a italicised exclaimation point, that appears to end perhaps just at or before the end of the screen. :(
Wow this looks bad LOL
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/6149/x1pkqy8suaqsi80gjace49cylikjhx.th.jpg (http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x1pkqy8suaqsi80gjace49cylikjhx.jpg)
goatdan
10-21-2005, 10:13 AM
A blurry screenshot, and now we have another round of believers.
Unfortunately, his description gives it all away. Again.
(it's really hard to play, never seen something so glitchy..).
Okay... then WHY would it be made?
To take to a trade show? No. If the game was nearly unplayable, why would they bother?
To have people start playtesting it? No. You don't do that until the game is far enough along that the players can get the concept and you don't think it will crash constantly.
There is no reason for this game to exist. Especially with it's scoth-taped-on label how it is.
Does anyone else think that it's funny to hear him mention that he "made Digital Press" like it was something that is overly hard to do? I mean, if he wanted to, he could've posted here himself to strat the thread, and then claimed, "I MADE IT ON DP!"
Strange.
Vroomfunkel
10-21-2005, 10:37 AM
The procedure if this is genuine is quite simple:
Beg, borrow or steal a decent camera ... or just buy one on credit. Take a ton of pics from every angle possible, and then take a ton of in game photos. Host them all on imageshack or something, and link them into your auction. Better still, take some video footage of your good self placing the cart in the NES, booting up the game and playing a minute or two's worth of it. Then host that somewhere and link from the auction.
Then wait for the money to roll in. You'll be able to pay off the credit card bill for your new snazzy camera with 10% of the final price of a real Zelda 3 proto.
Blurry pics, and half-assed offers of some tacky gilted rings, all these almost positive proof that you're just pulling a scam.
So yeah, I don't believe a word of it.
Vroomfunkel
Cmosfm
10-21-2005, 10:50 AM
Also, guys, you are forgetting how extremely easy it would be to photoshop a picture like that.
CYRiX
10-21-2005, 10:59 AM
Hey his screen settings may make the picture off-center and have the end of the title cut off anyways. But he needs more pictures to prove this.
Jagasian
10-21-2005, 11:02 AM
someone link me to that NES productions site. i need to get a few roms slapped into carts.
I got Earthbound from NES Reproductions. They do good work, and the price is reasonable:
http://www.nesreproductions.com/
If you guys want a great unofficial sequal to Zelda on the NES, get a copy of Zelda: Outlands from NES Reproductions. Check out a review of the game here:
http://rha.cymoro.com/zelda3c/ZeldaC/index.shtml
Pantechnicon
10-21-2005, 11:18 AM
If we haven't yet had enough forensic analysis of this thing I just thought of two other possible proofs that this is fake.
1) Why would a supposed in-house proto label, like the one this guy is brandishing, have a Trademark logo (tm) on it? I don't know a lot about protos but I can't imagine too many of them have tm's on them, especially one that's sized properly. I didn't know they had printers that could do that in 1990, cf - Dan Rather's bogus memo re: George Bush.
2) Regarding the screenshot:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/pzcortez/zel_scr.jpg
This is B&W Link's Awakening for GB. Notice how pretty much everything in our friend's supposed screenshot more or less matches up with this: The LoZ title graphic, the copyright notice and the mountain. That triforce symbol looks like it might have been superimposed in place of the Wind Fish's egg. I'm guessing it's not only a hack, but a Game Boy hack no less. If anyone can get a capture of the DX version that might make the colors match up a little better.
And I also love in this guy's screenshot how the shadows around his TV magically swallow up all the cables leading from the NES to the TV. This guy is definitely going to a lot of trouble to BS us all.
Joelius
10-21-2005, 12:22 PM
The cords. I didn't notice that until you mentioned it. Can someone say a SNES with a Super GameBoy in it?
dan2357
10-21-2005, 12:36 PM
I just fired up the DX version of Links awaking, The egg is sitting on top of the mountian not impossed into it like the original version. When comparing the 2 images, if I took the egg out of the DX screen, I would get the same shape mountian in his picture. On the DX it has white clouds behind the word ZELDA that continue down below about half way to the mountian, then lead to a blue sky. There is no TM next to ZELDA rather a circled R , and the tm is next to the word DX.
This seems to be the screen he changed, the extra white between the letters and name of the game shows me where the clouds used to be, the odd shaped mountian, and more.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1461/p30101274lh.th.jpg (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p30101274lh.jpg)
jajaja
10-21-2005, 12:44 PM
This is B&W Link's Awakening for GB. Notice how pretty much everything in our friend's supposed screenshot more or less matches up with this: The LoZ title graphic, the copyright notice and the mountain. That triforce symbol looks like it might have been superimposed in place of the Wind Fish's egg. I'm guessing it's not only a hack, but a Game Boy hack no less. If anyone can get a capture of the DX version that might make the colors match up a little better.
According to ratedo.com Link's Awakening was first planed for NES, so acctualy the picture who have taken would match that description.
But still I dont belive it before I see in-game screenshots and the circuit board of the game.
Joelius
10-21-2005, 12:48 PM
Did they take down the auction? Because I can't find it on Ebay anymore.
I apologize if i'm behind the times right now.
jajaja
10-21-2005, 01:08 PM
Did they take down the auction? Because I can't find it on Ebay anymore.
I apologize if i'm behind the times right now.
Ebay closed it because of the word "prototype".
rbudrick
10-21-2005, 01:13 PM
http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/2471/zelda3fake2ec.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1706/992292193000ts.gif
For your viewing pleasure.
What is that in the bottom right of the screen? And either that TV is really blurry, or that ring around the triforce isn't very symmetrical.
-Rob
EdEdison
10-21-2005, 01:23 PM
Hmm. Say what you will, but it does bear a slight resemblance to Link's Awakening.
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5234/legendofzeldalinksawakeninggbc.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1116/digit18dg.gif
Edit: you beat me to it! :eek 2:
Dethruhate
10-21-2005, 01:58 PM
Well if this is for real, given that he's from a relatively poor city; I'm tempted to make a lowball bid on it, if and only if he could prove to me its authenticity.
filmbucket
10-21-2005, 02:25 PM
Some interresting reading here:
http://www.ratedo.com/articles/z3proto.html
Check the articlescan. Are those screenshots from Links Awakening for Gameboy? I havnt played it so I cant tell.
It doesnt seem impossible to me. I would love to try the ROM if it was out there.
How odd is it that in the scanned article it says "The rumors have been flying around for years that Nintendo was working on a Zelda game for gameboy." Has anyone ever read of any article in a magazine that even hinted about a rumor of them making a third installment for the NES?
devils advocate
10-21-2005, 02:26 PM
Well if this is for real, given that he's from a relatively poor city; I'm tempted to make a lowball bid on it, if and only if he could prove to me its authenticity.
Relatively poor city? Perhaps you should check into Winnipeg closely. It has low unemployment, property values have increased by a greater percentage in the last three years than over the last twenty.
The average wage is slightly lower than large Canadian metropolis', but it also retains one of the lowest costs of living in Canada.
In many ways, Winnipeg is a haven for the middle class. The only thing suspectfully high in Wpg, is property tax.
Now, it is a relatively CHEAP city. It is well known in financial circles as "The coupon cutter capital of Canada". It is widely used as a test market for large chains like McDonalds, by the motto of "If it flies there, it'll fly anywhere".
Lastly, by the look in the pictures in his blog, he is neither hurting for money, nor unsocial. LOL
Although he is looking to upgrade ONE of his Harmon Kardon amplifiers. Perhaps you could swing a trade.
jajaja
10-21-2005, 03:01 PM
Some interresting reading here:
http://www.ratedo.com/articles/z3proto.html
Check the articlescan. Are those screenshots from Links Awakening for Gameboy? I havnt played it so I cant tell.
It doesnt seem impossible to me. I would love to try the ROM if it was out there.
How odd is it that in the scanned article it says "The rumors have been flying around for years that Nintendo was working on a Zelda game for gameboy." Has anyone ever read of any article in a magazine that even hinted about a rumor of them making a third installment for the NES?
Check the screenshots, are they taken from Link's Awakening? The map looks very simular to ALTTP. As I mentioned I havnt played L.A so I dont know if these screenshots are in the game. Can someone verify it?
Jagasian
10-21-2005, 03:04 PM
My guess is that it is a homebrew hack that uses graphics ripped from Game Boy Link's Awakening in place of the original Zelda's graphics.
Push Upstairs
10-21-2005, 03:10 PM
At least from the scanned article and the "Links Awakening" pre-release shots....i don't understand all this speculation about it being some vastly different game.
They haven't finished the GB game as so they used some exsisting art from the previous game in the series.
I doubt its any stretch of the imagination that someone would use some temp artwork until the final story and art for the places you will visit is completed.
As for the kid with the "Zelda 3" NES prototype.
poorly lit rooms with only the NES and the TV showing aren't solid proof.
digital_minority
10-21-2005, 03:14 PM
With all due respect, someone did post something about the OTHER zelda iii proto was very close to the gameboy version. I can't tell for sure, but we will soon find out.