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bargora
01-30-2003, 03:23 PM
Geez, what kind of a mall arcade do you have that's hip enough to have that game?!? All we got around here is DDR and multitudes of racing/fighting/shooting (but not all at the same time, saddly )
Why AREN'T there racing/shooting/fighting games? I mean, besides Roadblasters (no fighting there, either)? There have been a million TV/movie scenes where somebody is driving a car and having a shootout with somebody else at the same time, and then the tires get blown out, and then there's a fist fight (unless the bad guy's car flips over and explodes). Wasn't that, like, the end to every episode of the A-team? (Except for the episode involving the cabbage shooter, of course.)

So it's time for Sega to get off their ass and make a sitdown driving game with a light gun, three monitors (so you can shoot out of your side windows) and a Virtua Fighter controller setup as well. A House of the Daytona Fighter. Or, hell, just call it "The A-Team". Then they'd just have to make sure you can get a good view of you throwing somebody over your head, like Mr. T always did.

And even if you leave out the virtua fighting at the end of the level, a simultaneous driving/light gun game would be SWEET. Call it "LA Freeway" or "Bogota Runner" Maybe even a Mad Max license. Oh, my bleedin' brain. Wait! What about dancing/light gun games? That would be SUPERHARDCORE.

digitalpress
01-30-2003, 03:29 PM
Ever play a game called "Grand Theft Auto"?

Actually more light gun games would REALLY rock, but I just think the market on them is severely impaired. Way too many light gun games just disappear in a beat.

maxlords
01-30-2003, 03:31 PM
Or a game called Technocop??? Geez..does no one have memories?

digitalpress
01-30-2003, 03:35 PM
Or "Outlander" for the Genesis! Really cool Mad Max style game, where you had to shoot out the windows when the bad guys came along or they'd jump on your hood and cause all kinds'a commotion. They you get out of the car and fight the ghost town dregs, hunting for gas and bullets. Cool stuff.

Also Fatal Run for Atari 7800 (and it's watered down 2600 brother).

And really, doesn't the Twisted Metal and Vigilante 8 series kinda cover that too?

kainemaxwell
01-30-2003, 04:11 PM
Last lightgun game I played was 911 2 actually before my local arcade closed. Probably one th emost realistic shooters on the market now.

Captain Wrong
01-30-2003, 04:13 PM
Last lightgun game I played was 911 2 actually before my local arcade closed. Probably one th emost realistic shooters on the market now.

Yes, but the topic is games where you're driving, shooting and fighting all at the same time. Got any of that in this game?

ManekiNeko
01-30-2003, 04:34 PM
I dunno, man... I remember a drivin' and fightin' and shootin' game from Konami that was ultimately pretty borin'. Nobody needs a sequel to The Adventures of Bayou Billy.

JR

geelw
01-30-2003, 04:36 PM
here's a couple to keep you busy- joe mentioned outlander already (snes, genesis), and the gta games, but there's also:

zoku: legend of bishin (super famicom)- it's a side-scrolling beat-em up like final fight, with mode-7 chase HQ-style road racing in between each area. if you get your car banged up too much, you go flying out and immediately into a fighting scene, where you have to beat your way back to your car, and get back on the road again. no guns, but the game doesn't need 'em what with the continuous action.

body harvest (n64) one of the best n64 games, period. dma design went onto create the gta games, and when you play bh, you'll see where many of the elements in gta III and vice city originated. they should revisit this game on a more powerful system, as it's sometimes quite ugly to look at, but the gameplay is VERY solid.

speed racer (snes)- well, it's actually a lousy (but fun) side-scrolling platformer with ok mode-7 races in between levels, but it's sorta fits the theme...

battlewheels (lynx)- sure it's a car combat game, but it's the only one i can think of where you could jump from your burning car with a machine gun and 4 rockets, and take over another ride, if you didn't get shot up or run over. PLUS! it's a cool 4-player fps deathmatch game, if you link up systems (or jump into single player) and create "on foot" players only...

i think activision's true crime: streets of L.A. will be one to watch, if they can smooth out the gameplay- it's drivin', shootin', and fightin'- with special emphasis on the fightin' engine... :D

buttasuperb
01-30-2003, 04:50 PM
zoku: legend of bishin (super famicom)- it's a side-scrolling beat-em up like final fight, with mode-7 chase HQ-style road racing in between each area. if you get your car banged up too much, you go flying out and immediately into a fighting scene, where you have to beat your way back to your car, and get back on the road again. no guns, but the game doesn't need 'em what with the continuous action.

I must check this game out. Is it good?

Captain Wrong
01-31-2003, 12:00 AM
Ever play a game called "Grand Theft Auto"?


Yeah, but driving and shooting at the same time in that game leaves a lot to be desired.

To continue on bargoa's theme, combine the Virtua Fighter, Virtua Cop, and Ferrari F355 engines and you have Virtua Miami Vice.

Forget Vice City, this is the real deal!

Think about that one Sega!

geelw
01-31-2003, 03:47 AM
zoku: legend of bishin (super famicom)- it's a side-scrolling beat-em up like final fight, with mode-7 chase HQ-style road racing in between each area. if you get your car banged up too much, you go flying out and immediately into a fighting scene, where you have to beat your way back to your car, and get back on the road again. no guns, but the game doesn't need 'em what with the continuous action.

I must check this game out. Is it good?

it's not the best game on the system, but it's good in that "hmmm, i never expected a snes game could be so funny" sorta way. any game that makes me laugh like hell while i'm playing it stays in my collection. i haven't seen one on ebay in a long time- in fact, i got mine in chinatown here a few years ago. i was looking for something else, and that cover just caught my eye.

there's a pic of the box art in the super famicom section here: www.classicgaming.com/japangaming - enjoy. i wrote the description for it too, i believe...

WiseSalesman
01-31-2003, 03:54 AM
And even if you leave out the virtua fighting at the end of the level, a simultaneous driving/light gun game would be SWEET.

Ever hear of an arcade game called Lucky and Wild? My favorite obscure game. For two players, one holds a steering whell in one hand and a pistol in the other and controls the pedals. The other player has a machine gun and grenades.

I think our arcade sold theirs when it changed hands. Man I miss that game.

You can find a little more info about it here http://www.mame.dk/gameinfo/luckywld/.

kainemaxwell
01-31-2003, 07:52 AM
Nobody needs a sequel to The Adventures of Bayou Billy.
JR
Bayou Billy was innovative for it's time. If someone did come out with an update I'm sure it'd be more exciting...

YoshiM
01-31-2003, 08:55 AM
While it didn't have fighting per se, what about NARC?

Here you play a narcotics officer in swat gear with the license to kill (but you get more points for arrests). Every couple levels you get to drive a sports car that took up half the playfield and was armed with rocket launchers and machine guns. You didn't get to use your fists, but the some of the baddies did: the homicidal clownwith the knife and the big brute guy that tossed dumpsters at you. I love this game.

I agree on Bayou Billy, very innovative with the mixing of genres. Very. Damn. Hard.

Arcade Antics
01-31-2003, 11:27 AM
While it didn't have fighting per se, what about NARC?

Here you play a narcotics officer in swat gear with the license to kill (but you get more points for arrests). Every couple levels you get to drive a sports car that took up half the playfield and was armed with rocket launchers and machine guns. You didn't get to use your fists, but the some of the baddies did: the homicidal clownwith the knife and the big brute guy that tossed dumpsters at you. I love this game.

N.A.R.C. is AWESOME. Fantastic update of Stargate, just an awesome game. Shining example of how good games can be.

Kid Fenris
01-31-2003, 01:55 PM
Bayou Billy? Bah! The best driving/shooting/action game ever is Vice: Project Doom for the NES. It 's like playing Spy Hunter, Ninja Gaiden, and Operation Wolf all in one. Granted, you can't use a light gun on the shooting levels, but it's still a lot of fun.

kainemaxwell
01-31-2003, 09:41 PM
body harvest (n64) one of the best n64 games, period. dma design went onto create the gta games, and when you play bh, you'll see where many of the elements in gta III and vice city originated. they should revisit this game on a more powerful system, as it's sometimes quite ugly to look at, but the gameplay is VERY solid.

Found Body Harvest at my local EBs today for $5..I think I'll pick it up next week actually since it sound slike a sleeper hit.

geelw
02-01-2003, 05:26 AM
body harvest (n64) one of the best n64 games, period. dma design went onto create the gta games, and when you play bh, you'll see where many of the elements in gta III and vice city originated. they should revisit this game on a more powerful system, as it's sometimes quite ugly to look at, but the gameplay is VERY solid.

Found Body Harvest at my local EBs today for $5..I think I'll pick it up next week actually since it sound slike a sleeper hit.


yike! at five bucks, you'd better hope it's still there next week! is it complete? if so, then that's a deal... :o

kainemaxwell
02-01-2003, 09:39 AM
If I remember correctly the copy at EBX was complete, and the copy at EB was just the cart, or that one was complete also (and best thing is they used a clear sticker to seal the box instead of the ugly white one).

bargora
10-02-2003, 02:47 PM
So, with the release of "Starsky and Hutch" for the PS2, it looks like we may have our "Virtua Miami Vice". I shall have to investigate this.

Neil Koch
10-02-2003, 03:52 PM
Every couple levels you get to drive a sports car that took up half the playfield and was armed with rocket launchers and machine guns.

Actually you can only use the car once in NARC, but it's fun doing a spin 180 to run over some drug dealers... one of my favorite games.

Gunstarhero
10-02-2003, 06:24 PM
body harvest (n64) one of the best n64 games, period. dma design went onto create the gta games, and when you play bh, you'll see where many of the elements in gta III and vice city originated. they should revisit this game on a more powerful system, as it's sometimes quite ugly to look at, but the gameplay is VERY solid.

Found Body Harvest at my local EBs today for $5..I think I'll pick it up next week actually since it sound slike a sleeper hit.

Dude, geelw is spot on with this one, I'll recommend it as well. I actually like the story, vehicle selection, and weapons selection better than what we got with GTAIII...gotta love a game with time travel.

BH does suffer from some control issues, and camera issues when on foot. However, these aren't really problems at all when in vehicle mode...control is great in vehicles, as well as a stable camera. BH also has an enormous environment to explore, easily on par if not bigger than something like Super Mario 64, and it makes the size of Vice City look like small by comparison. This game is awesome and very very hard...it took me quite a few weeks to beat this thing.

ManekiNeko
10-02-2003, 06:36 PM
Racin', shootin', and fightin' wasn't workin' too well in The Adventures of Bayou Billy, also known as Mad City. Lucky and Wild and the recently released Starsky and Hutch made it work pretty well, though.

JR

Phosphor Dot Fossils
10-02-2003, 06:40 PM
Must...will...Change Lanes...into...existence...on...MAME...

:onfire:

Dire 51
10-03-2003, 03:04 AM
Personally I think Konami should have left Mad City alone instead of tampering with it. IMO Mad City is much better than Bayou Billy.

ManekiNeko
10-03-2003, 03:17 AM
What's the difference between the two games?

JR

Dire 51
10-03-2003, 04:14 PM
If I remember correctly (been a while since I played Mad City), KoA changed around some of the levels, plus they made every enemy in the fighting scenes ten times harder to kill - plus they cause Billy more damage when they attack him.

ArnoldRimmer83
10-04-2003, 01:21 AM
Also in the drivin segments in Mad City, your jeep can actually take hits, as opposed to blowing up in just one hit. Mad City actually wasn't really a bad game, but Konami of America definately ruined it by making the difficulty ridiculous in Bayou Billy.

Kid Ice
10-04-2003, 08:50 AM
Demolition Man (3DO) has driving, shooting, and fighting, just not all at the same time. And you can use the gamegun in the shooting parts.