Generation NEX named 2nd best gift in Dec. EGM

[davepesc]

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Without transcribing the description, EGM calls the NEX an "updated NES" with "wireless pads" and "without the glitchy cartridge contacts."

Number 1: the $1,200 InFocus X3 projector.

[Zoe F]

Do they point out it's not 100% compatible and the wireless pads will set you back another $60?

[TheRedEye]

This is a travesty and I am personally offended! I'm going to start another thread about this RIGHT NOW.

[Arkaign]

This is a travesty and I am personally offended! I'm going to start another thread about this RIGHT NOW.

Ahhhh, rich creamy sarcasm. Mmmmmm!

Lol, seriously, I enjoyed that.

[Zoe F]

Cifaldi, Cifaldi! He's unleashing the sarcasm! Bah gawd! Has he no heart, has he no soul? Cifaldi! Cifaldi! Cifaldi!

[GrandAmChandler]

Page 110 (couldn't find it online)

Without transcribing the description, EGM calls the NEX an "updated NES" with "wireless pads" and "without the glitchy cartridge contacts."



Nope, just glitchy cartridges! LOL

[16-bit]

I'm sure Jagasian already wrote a letter.

[Kejoriv]

Why do I think this thread is going to end up in another flame war x_x

[Jagasian]

I'm sure Jagasian already wrote a letter.

Nope. EGM ceased being a good magazine many years ago, and I let my subscription run out back then too.

I will just file this along with my other examples of obviously fake reviews, or more accurately, advertisements masquerading as reviews, such as that other review that claimed that Castlevania III runs perfectly on the NEX (when the game doesn't even boot). Has EGM promoted any other Famiclone like this, such as the much cheaper USA Neo Fami or the portable Pocket Fami? Now why would that be? This only serves to further discredit EGM as a trusted source of information on gaming hardware.

[Melf]

Scooter Libby did it! He's the one behind it all!

[s1lence]

I would like to point out that most likely that article was written at least a month before the NEX was shipped to people. They also name the Flashback 2.0 as a top ten gift as well.

[jajaja]

Number 1: the $1,200 InFocus X3 projector.

Number 1 is ranked as a $1,200 item? I dont think many can afford to buy this a give it away as a present.

[16-bit]

I'm sure Jagasian already wrote a letter.

Nope. EGM ceased being a good magazine many years ago, and I let my subscription run out back then too.



I agree.

It is a tough business though. Video Game Magazine Subscriptions have actually gone down in price or have remained flat...back in 1990 a VG & CE or EGM subscription would run between $19.95-$24.95.

[Jagasian]

Number 1: the $1,200 InFocus X3 projector.

Number 1 is ranked as a $1,200 item? I dont think many can afford to buy this a give it away as a present.

I was an early adopter of the InFocus X1. It was and still is a great DLP-based projector, especially considering that it was only $1000 back when it was first released! The InFocus X3 makes improvements on the X1 in resolution, lumens, and bulb life. Here is a good review of the X3. (http://www.projectorcentral.com/infocus_x3.htm) To be honest though, I still prefer a nice CRT based television over projection (rear or front), plasma, and LCD. I started playing video games on a traditional CRT TV, so it is what I am used to. For movies, rear projection is nice, as it has that movie theater feel.

Back to the topic at hand, EGM's description is actually factually incorrect as the claim that the NEX is
...without the glitchy cartridge contacts... has been demonstrated to be incorrect by the people at the NES Dev forums. The cartridge contacts in the NEX are wired incorrectly, which causes incompatibilities and it could possibly even damage your cartridge!


I would like to point out that most likely that article was written at least a month before the NEX was shipped to people. They also name the Flashback 2.0 as a top ten gift as well.
Any game review magazine should personally test and review a product themselves before recommending it to customers. Otherwise, they are just advertising for Messiah or most likely Nuby Tech (as they have more power and money to make EGM dance). I am not an Atari 2600 expert, and I understand that early versions of the Flashback 2.0 had issues, which were fixed in later versions, but what makes the Flashback 2.0 different is that it actually is a custom 2600 clone and not just another cheapy NES-on-a-chip based system.

[DreamTR]

There goes Jagasian again, thinking Messiah has millions and clout to enforce improper reviews on EGM, MTV, and others!

Please take your tirade elsewhere with your conspiracy theory out of the way please. I did not know a 2 person company (Messiah) or a company with 8 TOTAL employees (NubyTech) could afford to do this!

WHY ARE THERE 210382932839 THREADS

PS2 is 95.1% COMPATIBLE WITH PS1 GAMES, OMGSUE.

[n8littlefield]

I have to say, I'd pretty much excuse EGM on this one as well. They are a print magazine and given the lead times for them to go to print, they probably had to go with press releases on this. They didn't have all the information they probably should have had, but print mags have to do alot based on prerelease info just to stay afloat against the instant info on the web. Given the prerelease info, I would have agreed with them that this would be a great gift.

But DreamTR, seriously, Jag answered the post civilly, just stating the facts and his opinion that they should have physically tested it first. He didn't say that he thought they were paid by Messiah, just that when magazines or websites review/preview things without playing them, they are going simply by the manufacturer's word, which does basically amount to free advertising.

[DreamTR]

n8littlefield:
Jagasian wrote:

Any game review magazine should personally test and review a product themselves before recommending it to customers. Otherwise, they are just advertising for Messiah or most likely Nuby Tech (as they have more power and money to make EGM dance).

"Free" advertising is the proper word, yes. However, look at his comment from this post at others how they are "suspicious", and even this last one saying "NubyTech has morte power and money to MAKE EGM Dance".

Did you not see what was implied there?

I don't doubt what his opinions are on the NEX, but it's the same thing OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Just these snide comments about things he knows nothing about and tries to convince the community on are appalling.

In fact, I find it even funnier when you have a certain someone come on here and join in the fracas who blatantly disappeared and not send out his OWN personal products and reappear out of nowhere, and all is well, whereas Messiah is not "taking" anyone's money, and is dedicated to pleasing the community at any costs.

[Jibbajaba]

I don't doubt what his opinions are on the NEX, but it's the same thing OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

And you keep responding, OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Chris

[n8littlefield]

Yeah - my bad, didn't see that Jag inferred that EGM was paid. Definately don't think that Messiah would have the cash to do that. Gotta stop posting while I work and actually pay attn sometime.

[jajaja]

Number 1: the $1,200 InFocus X3 projector.

Number 1 is ranked as a $1,200 item? I dont think many can afford to buy this a give it away as a present.

I was an early adopter of the InFocus X1. It was and still is a great DLP-based projector, especially considering that it was only $1000 back when it was first released! The InFocus X3 makes improvements on the X1 in resolution, lumens, and bulb life. Here is a good review of the X3. (http://www.projectorcentral.com/infocus_x3.htm) To be honest though, I still prefer a nice CRT based television over projection (rear or front), plasma, and LCD. I started playing video games on a traditional CRT TV, so it is what I am used to. For movies, rear projection is nice, as it has that movie theater feel.

Ok. Im sure its a great present, but I dont think the average joe can afford to give a present thats worth $1,200 hehe.

[Jagasian]

There goes Jagasian again...

DreamTR, you are the only person to admit to having tested out the NEX and not realize that it was a crappy NOAC based Famiclone. No wonder you are so upset. Let me remind you, yet again of this little gem:
Jagasian, for the third time, this is NOT an NES on a chip. It is a custom made board, and is UNLIKE the other clones out there.

Also, Jagasian, I stated in the post that I have tested the unit thoroughly.
By the way, when it turns out that the NEX uses a pre-existing NOAC, will you admit that you were wrong? I am eagerly anticipating the day.
Now you've explained that somebody told you that it wasn't a crappy NOAC based Famiclone, yet never told us who, but please explain how you couldn't figure that out during your own testing? You are the only person, so far, that has been capable of accomplishing such an astonishing feat. Before the NEX shipped, I said I was eagerly awaiting the day that it was demonstrated to use a NOAC. I will make a new proclamation:

I eagerly await your reaction, the day that somebody fries one of their NES games by playing it in the NEX's incorrectly wired cartridge slot.

[DreamTR]

Jibbajaba: I'm responding to his remarks. There is nothing wrong with that.

He does not understand the basis for this system. It is not meant to be just a clone of the NES/Famicom, it is meant for something else in the works, and many people are not understanding the purpose just yet.

I'm responding because I have to clarify a few things about the system that everyone just seems to be believing is true based on what he has. He does not even OWN a NEX, correct? Don't you think that is a little bit strange for someone to educate how we should not purchase the system and make an informed decision unless there is another agenda?

You see, I can have conspiracy theories as well. LOL

[Jagasian]

I'm responding because I have to clarify a few things about the system that everyone just seems to be believing is true based on what he has.
You have allot of credibility with regards to the NEX. You did a great job of clarifying whether it uses a NOAC or not. So, please, tell us about some more of your facts. Maybe some more of your expert testing will prove that the NEX can also play SNES games. LOL

[DreamTR]

Jagasian wrote:

Now you've explained that somebody told you that it wasn't a crappy NOAC based Famiclone, yet never told us who, but please explain how you couldn't figure that out during your own testing? You are the only person, so far, that has been capable of accomplishing such an astonishing feat.


1. I told you "who" it was in the previous thread that you mentioned. Maybe you should read some of my posts instead of spouting off with things I already revealed.

2. Wireless, Famicom play, sleek NES Design, rarity manual, added features for development of NEW games that are in the works...

I mean, what else do you want me to say? You have made your assumptions, and that is fine. I still think you know nothing about development of a system and how companies work based on your assumptions, remarks, and blame you are placing. Very harsh for someone that does not even have a system.

[prismra]

Holy crap dudes...


...and yes, EGM was not using good judgement in recommending an untested product to their subscribers.

[DreamTR]

Jagasian wrote:

You have allot of credibility with regards to the NEX. So, please, tell us about some more of your facts. Maybe some more of your expert testing will prove that the NEX can also play SNES games.

I'm sorry, did you want everyone to go into every minute detail about the differences in sound and colors when this system was not meant to mimic an NES 100%? Sure, your compatability definition (comparing it directly to an NES) is important, but after THAT remark, YOU are the one blatantly attacking ME now about something you do NOT even own.

This is what you do, you come on forums and argue as if you are the 100% almighty lord of knowledge trying to uphend anyone trying to bring out a product? I'm glad I don't know you personally, you sure sound like a person with a whole heap of issues to be obsessively posting about this system in multiple threads back and forth, making up lies about advertising and such. I'm finally through with posting to you about this because for someone who supposedly knows about the agenda of companies and products, you sure are the most naive and ignorant person I have ever come across.

Now you have proven your own hypcocrisy, attacking me directly. Good job buddy. Please go and post some more gibberish on other message boards about the NEX, k thx.

[Jagasian]

1. I told you "who" it was in the previous thread that you mentioned. Maybe you should read some of my posts instead of spouting off with things I already revealed.

Please re-reveal that bit again, because I sifted through your previous posts, and the only thing you said in this regard was that somebody else told you. From the context, that somebody could be: Messiah, NubyTech, or god knows who. So, please, which was is it?

[Darth Sensei]

This is getting nauseating. :roll:

[Jagasian]

I'm glad I don't know you personally, you sure sound like a person with a whole heap of issues to be obsessively posting about this system in multiple threads back and forth
...
Now you have proven your own hypcocrisy, attacking me directly. Good job buddy. Please go and post some more gibberish on other message boards about the NEX, k thx.

Did I touch a nerve by quoting your posts where you admitted to testing the system, yet couldn't realize that it was a crappy NOAC Famiclone in sheep's clothing? You do realize that the accusations that you make against me, about posting in multiple threads back and forth on this topic, also applies to you? Just because I made a snide remark about a game magazine getting kickbacks from advertisers for a fake review, it doesn't mean that you need to get so bent out of shape. Am I really the first person to make such an off the cuff remark, after a game magazine gives a fluff review?

Back during the Street Fighter 2 craze, I could find you people by the dozen who would jokingly say that EGM is getting kickbacks from Capcom LOL

[Ed Oscuro]

I would like to point out that most likely that article was written at least a month before the NEX was shipped to people. They also name the Flashback 2.0 as a top ten gift as well.
I don't think the Flashback deserves to be mentioned on the same page as the NEX, let along the same sentence...oops!

The main thing to realize is that there's only a semblance of journalistic integrity in gaming magazines, and that's not really the fault of the journalists. If a big enough issue comes to light, they'll put getting the scoop ahead of pleasing the sponsor...but something like this was just a throw-away to fill up page space. You know it's true. Nobody at EGM really cares about this thing, and I doubt any of their staff will go buy one.

Now my burning question is whether this "new thing" the NEX is being planned for will result in house fires or burned-out equipment. Folks at NESdev have sounded the alarm on the NEX's wiring, after all, and there seems to be a real possibility you'd damage original NES carts or the NEX itself.

[le geek]

Hey Jagasian and DreamTR,

How 'bout either buy a NEX or don't. No need to dig up evidence on each other. Noone's under oath.

This is starting to look like a ZachWeasel thread :P

Now can we please get back to bashing the Xbox360? ;)

Cheers,
Ben

[Jagasian]

Now can we please get back to bashing the Xbox360? ;)

Why bash the Xbox360? DreamTR 'the Tiger has already personally tested it, and he says that it's GrrrrrrrrATE! But I tell ya, the devils inside that system!

[Ed Oscuro]

Excuse me, Jagasian, no improper use of Kellogg's trademarks or I'll be fixin' yer wagon, thx

[davepesc]

Now can we please get back to bashing the Xbox360? ;)

Why bash the Xbox360? DreamTR 'the Tiger has already personally tested it, and he says that it's GrrrrrrrrATE! But I tell ya, the devils inside that system!



LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

[le geek]

Excuse me, Jagasian, no improper use of Kellogg's trademarks or I'll be fixin' yer wagon, thx

Hey, you never stepped up the the le geek kellogg's trivia challenge! :D
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=834254&highlight=#834254

[n8littlefield]

I think it's time to stop fighting over who knew what and when, but truthfully, I am intrigued by the voltage issue that could cause potential shock/frying issues. Have they actually had it cause any issue aside from compatibility? Holiday gifts bursting into flames or zapping Little Timmy is never good news.

Does anyone have contact within Messiah to see if they are aware of that issue?

[Chronodriftersx]

no mention of the Mario Kart DS bundle LE color system a best gift? Speaking of...

[Ed Oscuro]

Excuse me, Jagasian, no improper use of Kellogg's trademarks or I'll be fixin' yer wagon, thx

Hey, you never stepped up the the le geek kellogg's trivia challenge! :D
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=834254&highlight=#834254
Hell if I know all the answers, but Rumsfeld used to be on the board of directors.

The largest brand in the US - well, it was still corn flakes in 1998, if what I'd heard was accurate...maybe so, maybe not. Actually wouldn't be surprised if that's not true with all the money being made off snack foods...

As for an American President, I'm going to cheat and say that Washington's bust, as it appears on the quarter, has appeared on an old Rice Krispies Treats/Dennis the Menace promotion...well, but now I'm not sure if that was actually on boxes or just a flyer. Heh, I'm stumped, but I'll go with Ford...bet you'll say it was Bush Sr. :P

[le geek]

Hell if I know all the answers, but Rumsfeld used to be on the board of directors.

The largest brand in the US - well, it was still corn flakes in 1998, if what I'd heard was accurate...maybe so, maybe not. Actually wouldn't be surprised if that's not true with all the money being made off snack foods...

As for an American President, I'm going to cheat and say that Washington's bust, as it appears on the quarter, has appeared on an old Rice Krispies Treats/Dennis the Menace promotion...well, but now I'm not sure if that was actually on boxes or just a flyer. Heh, I'm stumped, but I'll go with Ford...bet you'll say it was Bush Sr. :P

1) Nice job on Rumsfeld.

2) Yep, it's drifted to Pop Tarts

3) No Bushes, Dwight D. Eisenhower

[Mangar]

You have allot of credibility with regards to the NEX. You did a great job of clarifying whether it uses a NOAC or not. So, please, tell us about some more of your facts. Maybe some more of your expert testing will prove that the NEX can also play SNES games. LOL

Owned

[Griking]

I have to say, I'd pretty much excuse EGM on this one as well. They are a print magazine and given the lead times for them to go to print, they probably had to go with press releases on this.

How in the world can EGM expect to have any credibility whatsoever if they advertise the NEX as a top ten holiday gift if they never even saw the thing? To me they'd have no less credibility if they just pulled their top picks out of a hat.

I agree with Jagasian, if they never even seen the NEX then the article is no more than a badly disguised advertisement. And since advertising generally isn't free someone had to pay EGM to include it in the list.

[stonic]

Any game review magazine should personally test and review a product themselves before recommending it to customers. Otherwise, they are just advertising for Messiah or most likely Nuby Tech (as they have more power and money to make EGM dance).

Agreed. Or at the very least the article should been "Top 10 gift IDEAS". Then again, mainstream mags like EGM cater to casual players of the latest games/systems, so something like the NEX is going to be way down on their priority list. Unless a sig number of people start speaking up about it, I doubt you'll see them mention it again.



I am not an Atari 2600 expert, and I understand that early versions of the Flashback 2.0 had issues, which were fixed in later versions.

I'd like to think I am, and no, not all the issues were fixed (I discussed this in another thread). They might never be... unless of course, they first sell out of all the flawed systems. :roll:


Keep up the good work, Jagasian. Just remember that there'll always be a few bull-headed (or is that pig-headed?) folks out there who will refuse to believe the truth, even when it's staring them right in the face. Much like the black knight from Monty Python & the Holy Grail :-D

[Melf]

I agree with Jagasian, if they never even seen the NEX then the article is no more than a badly disguised advertisement. And since advertising generally isn't free someone had to pay EGM to include it in the list.

You can't honestly think that someone handed EGM money under the table to include the NEX on the list. That's simply absurd. You don't pay someone to simply mention it on a top 10 list.

I'd chalk it up more to the list's creator seeing a press release or ad, thinking "this looks cool", and deciding to include it.

[Ed Oscuro]

2) Yep, it's drifted to Pop Tarts

3) No Bushes, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Huh, surprised I didn't get 2 right...but I'm also sorta disappointed a product that Kellogg's has had since the sixties is faring so much better than many of their new products...but then again, it's pretty hard to beat yummy, tasty toaster pastries LOL

Also, Jagasian, while I got a bit of a smile out of the NEX playing SNES comment, I think you've done enough to DreamTR's reputation...better stop, because now you're working on yours ;)

And Melf, I think you're absolutely right about EGM, but you can't really blame consumers for assuming this when EGM doesn't do their end of the bargain.

[roushimsx]

I had this issue in the shrinkwrap and wasn't even going to waste my time opening it until i saw this thread.

Here's the small segment of the page in question; I'm not going to do any complete page scans except for the ads because, well...it's the only reason I even bothered signing up for this free subscription (laugh all you want, but in 10 years these ads will be priceless nostalgia...moreso than the generic drivel that fills their "articles"). Maybe in a few years I'll do the actual articles so we can all look back on them and laugh our asses off...eh...we'll see.

Suddenly I wish I had all of my old issues here. Maybe my parents haven't thrown them out yet. We'll see whenever I visit home again.

I do find it cute/funny that they recommended it based on just a press release before they ever got their hands on one.

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[Jagasian]

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Nintendo's copyright on the 8-bit NES has run out, making it easy for third-party manufacturers to bust out their own versions. But there's no need to simply pump out the same temperamental system we all grew up with. Instead, manufacturer Messiah has created an updated NES complete with wireless pads, and - more importantly - without the glitchy cartridge contacts.

...now if we turn off EGM's reality distortion field, we get...


Nintendo's patents on the 8-bit NES have run out, making it legal for third-party manufacturers to bust out their own versions. But there's no need to simply pump out the same temperamental Famiclone we all grew up with. However for some reason, manufacturer Messiah has created yet another NES-on-a-chip based Famiclone complete with wireless pads, and - more importantly - with even more glitchy cartridge contacts.

[Kid Fenris]

I have video footage of DreamTR breaking into EGM's offices, going over to a computer, and inserting this hideously deceptive propaganda into the magazine.

Then he steals all of their prototype games and pisses in their water cooler.

[Griking]

I agree with Jagasian, if they never even seen the NEX then the article is no more than a badly disguised advertisement. And since advertising generally isn't free someone had to pay EGM to include it in the list.

You can't honestly think that someone handed EGM money under the table to include the NEX on the list. That's simply absurd. You don't pay someone to simply mention it on a top 10 list.

I'd chalk it up more to the list's creator seeing a press release or ad, thinking "this looks cool", and deciding to include it.

I don't even think it would have to be under the table. I look at buyers guides to be almost 100% advertisement and advertising is of course paid for in all magazines. Why is it so hard to believe that Messiah would pay to adverise in EGM?

[EricRyan34]

Lets all play nice LOL


I read this article in EGM and I wasnt really surprised by it, I was mosre surprised by the $1,200 #1 that they put in there, I thought that was kinda silly :cheers:

[lendelin]

Jagasian wrote:

You have allot of credibility with regards to the NEX. So, please, tell us about some more of your facts. Maybe some more of your expert testing will prove that the NEX can also play SNES games.

I'm sorry, did you want everyone to go into every minute detail about the differences in sound and colors when this system was not meant to mimic an NES 100%? Sure, your compatability definition (comparing it directly to an NES) is important, but after THAT remark, YOU are the one blatantly attacking ME now about something you do NOT even own.

This is what you do, you come on forums and argue as if you are the 100% almighty lord of knowledge trying to uphend anyone trying to bring out a product? I'm glad I don't know you personally, you sure sound like a person with a whole heap of issues to be obsessively posting about this system in multiple threads back and forth, making up lies about advertising and such. I'm finally through with posting to you about this because for someone who supposedly knows about the agenda of companies and products, you sure are the most naive and ignorant person I have ever come across.

Now you have proven your own hypcocrisy, attacking me directly. Good job buddy. Please go and post some more gibberish on other message boards about the NEX, k thx.

@DreamTR and Jagasian: I'm hesitant to intervene in a discussion as personal as this one which means in the end a thread that consists of false pride, below the belt arguments and leg-kicking.

Nevertheless, I have to make a comment:

DreamTR, don't you realize that you made BIG mistakes when it comes to damage control?

Your first mistake was in the very fist thread; and no, I don't mean your statement about testing and the NOAC chip which was just false information given to you and you hyped it a bit to make it more credible.

No, your mistake was to call Jagasian "patronizing" and "arrogant;" that never sits well with people in particular when they are informed, think that their criticism is valid and if it turns out that they were absolutely right.

How did Jagasian react? He created the "Messiah NEX claims"-thread, which is basically a "I told you so"-thread; and I can tell you that he did it for only one reason: because of your "patronizing" and "arrogant" comment. The result: hurt feelings and a minor personal attack doesn't let the issue come to rest.

Then you made your second mistake: in the follow-up thread you tried to turn tables and described him as a crusader and enemy of the gaming community (which doesn't make sense like this entire "eat their own young"- business portrayed by others). The result: Jagasian shoots back reminding you publicly of your mistakes and the quality of the NEX. Bad again for you and the NEX.

...and now we have THIS thread which shouldn't be an own thread anyway because it fits perfectly in Jagasians already existing thread; and you make again the same mistake: attacks where you should not and cannot attack. With these kind of attacks you shoot yourself in your own foot.

I see only one justified cristicism where Jagasian clearly was over the top and that is his remark about NubyTech and their influence on the EGM review (which is non-sense, Jagasian, as others pointed already out).

DreamTR, in a case like this you do damage control by being very starightforward, admit to flaws of the product, and point out features which make the system nevertheless attractive. Period. Never give new opportunities for attacks, never try to blame others, never give the appearance of self-righteousness.

With your reactions you created an enemy, and now we are at the low-point of every discussion forum: dumb little irrational leg-kicking from both sides.

DreamTR AND Jagasian, give this thing a rest. There is no new information to be gained, the threads deteriorated to redundancy and little meaningless insults fueled by false pride.

I'm only interested in rational evaluations of the system from guys who are knowledgeable of emulators and/or gamers who describe their experiences with it. I'm NOT interested in two guys fighting over NOTHING in the meantime, that means over themselves.

[InsaneDavid]

First, I'm amazed ANYONE in these forums considers EGM a gaming resource. The only gaming magazine of recent times I enjoyed reading was Xpert Gamer (after they were EGM2 and before they became GameNOW). Oh, and Retrogaming Times Monthly which I contribute to. :D

Second, Messiah played "pass the buck" with information concerning the Generation NEX, DreamTR only relayed what he was told. Incorrect or not, that's not his fault. From what I read all he's trying to do is get that point across and clear his name. The industry is a BUSINESS remember. It's not like this is the first time something like this has happened. (Saturn, PS2, uh every release of Windows, etc.)

Third, DreamTR and Jagasian have beat this bloody, so I don't think talking to either of them on this subject will accomplish anything but fuel the fire. So DreamTR can sing the praises of the Generation NEX, and Jagasian can go hunt down the only other Famiclone that resembles the NES...

http://assembler.emugaming.com/Black_Market/Mini_Nes/mini_nes.html

Merry Christmas to all. Go buy my copy of EarthBound instead, it's a better gift anyway. LOL

[Jagasian]

Jagasian can go hunt down the only other Famiclone that resembles the NES...

http://assembler.emugaming.com/Black_Market/Mini_Nes/mini_nes.html


As I have remarked before, to those that claim that Messiah has done the community a favor by creating the NEX, Famiclones have already been made, which look like anything and everything you could imagine, including the NES. The original reason why everybody was interested is because we thought that the NEX was going to implement a highly accurate and compatible custom Famiclone, but instead it turned out to be do different than the other Famiclones that look like mini-NES systems.

[anagrama]

Can we start posting pictures of furry animals with unfunny captions in the NEX threads yet?

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

Initiating Dead Horse protocol.

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