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Nz17
11-16-2005, 08:55 PM
So this game just came out for NGC, PS2, and XBOX. Any buy Shadow The Hedgehog? How is it?

GrayFox
11-16-2005, 09:50 PM
Come on now, we all know I'm here. Of course, I bought it.

Snagged it for Cube, and I must say, I'm having quite some fun with it.

It's not a fantastic game, I won't lie. Nor is it an actual Sonic game. Usually in a Sonic game, I have fun running around at ridiculous speeds exploring the areas, not this time. I'm having fun with the weapons. It's actually pretty enjoyable to homing jump into an enemy, and then fly into the air and hit'em down into the ground with a few handgun shots.

Yeah, I know its not Sonic, but whatever, I'm having fun.

Nz17
11-18-2005, 07:19 AM
I finally got this game on the 17th (lousy slow Gamestop) and it is a odd duck. I normally don't say this, but heavily consider renting this game before purchase.

The funny part is, the game has some really bad points to it, and some good points to it, and the two groups end up neutralizing each other to make the game seem entirely mediocre.

segagamer4life
11-18-2005, 09:29 AM
I finally got this game on the 17th (lousy slow Gamestop) and it is a odd duck. I normally don't say this, but heavily consider renting this game before purchase.

The funny part is, the game has some really bad points to it, and some good points to it, and the two groups end up neutralizing each other to make the game seem entirely mediocre.

lol I am actually on board with this, I gotta say rent it, I played it for a few minutes at gamestop, and it is an odd take on the sonic series, the weapons and cars are a nice twist, but right now, it doesn't warrent spending 53 bucks... sorry shadow, gotta wait.

McBacon
11-18-2005, 02:10 PM
I absolutly hate it, bad control, bugs, so fustrating!!

Whiskers the Wonder Cat
11-18-2005, 03:37 PM
Don't care for Shadow. I want my Sonic Adventure 3 SEGA! :angry:

Cryomancer
11-18-2005, 04:21 PM
It's alright, but it's inherited the problems with heroes: slippery movement controls, random suicidal homing attacks, and the fact that 90% of the levels are all just crap suspended over nothing. The shooting however is amazingly well intergrated, in the sense that it works like it should and feels not too out of place...other than the explosive weapons but i hate those in every game so maybe that's just me.

Sailorneorune
11-18-2005, 04:37 PM
Hmm... from reading all of this, it seems worth using a free game rental coupon on Shadow.

I'd like Sonic Adventure 3 as well, and I'll be looking forward to playing Sonic Rush. :-P

Besides, I need something to do, only having to step foot on campus 2 days next week... :/

kainemaxwell
11-18-2005, 07:44 PM
I finally got this game on the 17th (lousy slow Gamestop) and it is a odd duck. I normally don't say this, but heavily consider renting this game before purchase.

The funny part is, the game has some really bad points to it, and some good points to it, and the two groups end up neutralizing each other to make the game seem entirely mediocre.
So whatcha think are the good and bad points?

alec006
11-19-2005, 01:22 AM
Being a Sonic Fan I had to get this game,ive got to say it is fun and Sega did a good job on it. More later,playing :D

Amy Rose
11-19-2005, 02:10 AM
It's alright, but it's inherited the problems with heroes: slippery movement controls, random suicidal homing attacks, and the fact that 90% of the levels are all just crap suspended over nothing. The shooting however is amazingly well intergrated, in the sense that it works like it should and feels not too out of place...other than the explosive weapons but i hate those in every game so maybe that's just me.
Oh noes. :( I'm buying this, of course, but I'm not too sure if I'm going to like it. I don't like shooting games (stuff like Halo, I don't mind shmups) at the best of times, but I hear this has eleven different endings and many diffferent paths you can take?

I read the IGN review, but c'mon, like anyone is going to take that guy seriously after he gave Sonic Adventure DX a 6 and raved about Mario 64 for nearly a whole paragraph mid review. o_O Does anyone have a link to a decent review, a famitsu score, something credible?

Nz17
11-19-2005, 04:34 AM
Nah, I haven't seen any good reviews of this game yet. The review at Gamespy even has dozens of factual and spelling errors! They list the game as "Shadows of the Hedgehog!"

The more I play this game though, the more I like it. It starts to grow on you after you get used to the fickle parts and begin settings goals.

Almost every stage allows you to fulfill one of three different goals: good, bad, or neutral. So it is kind of nice to be able to choose your own path, but you'll often wish for the simplicity of a straight-forward, just-run-to-the-end-of-the-stage Sonic setup. Thankfully the neutral paths tend to be of the run-to-the-super-ring type so that if you feel like just blazing through a stage you can.

Because of the choice of goals in each stage, the game branches. To get to all of the stages in the game, you must play the game through at least five times in order for the branching paths to take you to all twenty stages. Each final stage has two endings, good and evil.

Everytime you get one ending, you get a new special weapon that is unleashed from the Shadow boxes in a stage. Soon you'll have a nice assortment to choose from after a time.

And for those inquiring minds, this game does continue the Adventure storyline. Or more exact, Sonic Adventure -> Sonic Adventure 2 -> Sonic Battle && Sonic Heroes -> Shadow The Hedgehog.

So there's lots of good, and some improvements to the old engine as well. Now when you die you can start right back up from the last save point, and save points act as warp points as well, so you can go back and get something if you missed it the first time. Rail jumping works even better this time, and Shadow does it with a cartwheel jump.

But you are going to find yourself fighting with the camera in this game, and some stages are quite difficult, sometimes frustratingly so. Often times you'll fail at a goal that you were going after in a stage and must either choose a different path or restart the stage.

Something that really annoyed me at first was the swearing. Now while it is nothing too obscene, you are going to hear the word "damn" a lot in this game. Shadow says it whenever he dies or is hit. Hell, even Sonic says it!

Speaking of speech, prepare your ears for the death of a thousand voice actors. 4KIDS dubbed Shadow The Hedgehog. So what we are left with is the "darkest" Sonic game ever with the voice acting talent of one of the most despised Saturday morning cartoon translators in the land. Almost everybody sounds wrong, especially Knuckles, Charmy, and Vector.

Because of the branching there are multiple endings. And the endings are very brief. But take solace in knowing that a full endings awaits the determined.

Nz17
11-19-2005, 05:14 AM
I almost forgot one definite selling point for those people who hate Chao...

Spoilers ahead...

Do not read the red quote boxes below in order to skip spoilers...

Last warning...


You get to beat up and attack Chao. Yes, you could do this in the Sonic Adventures, but it is much more satisfying to beat the annoying little snot-nosed punks with flaming torches, pistols, swords, branches, and grenades.

And for those of you who thought ******** got off easy in Sonic Heroes...


One of the endings is... ooh, it is too shocking and spoiler-ific to tell! Let's just say it involves E-102 Omega and Shadow.

So some definite satisfaction for long-time 3D Sonic players.

kainemaxwell
11-19-2005, 08:46 AM
Well then if it continues the story started from Adventure and even recognizes Omega good to see Sega remembering continutity.

So with the good-bad-neutral paths, is it sorta like Sonic CD? Like Bad is if you plow through everything guns blazing, beating up Chao and Good is something like if you only kill if you need to?

DonMarco
11-19-2005, 04:45 PM
Each mission had good-bad-neutral goals. So you could totally miss some task (lit only 3/5 lanterns) and say "screw it" and beat the level's good or neutral goal. Or you could teleport back and explore around a little.

Rather than talk about it, I want to play more. All the problem's I had in the firsts three hours melted away, and I think I'm getting the hang of it. Which would make this the second Sonic game with a learning curve, after that Sonic 3D.

I also like how the game isn't about the goal, but the path you take. How you play the game instead of just beating it. After I finished Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, I was pretty... Dumbed. Like I wanted to play it again, but it would be like this massive thing to go through again. With every new game in Shadow, it's a NEW GAME. Different bosses, different stages, different missions.

Random thought: remember how you could get all seven chaos emeralds in the first two stagees of Sonic & Knuckles?

joshnickerson
11-19-2005, 06:21 PM
If they haven't bothered to fix the broken camera or controls of the previous games, I want nothing to do with it.

kainemaxwell
11-19-2005, 10:00 PM
Least that adds replay value to it then.

christhegamer
11-19-2005, 10:50 PM
Could this possibly be a future buried treasure? So far I've heard interesting concept, mid-level quality.

there is also going to be a new Sonic game for the DS; with a new charactor X_x

DonMarco
11-20-2005, 12:18 AM
Nah, I haven't seen any good reviews of this game yet. The review at Gamespy even has dozens of factual and spelling errors! They list the game as "Shadows of the Hedgehog!"
I re-read the IGN review, and it seriously feels like 90% of it was written weeks ago. I mean, I think everyone had a bad first impression playing the game, but it does pick up, right?

I unlocked two new endings today.

Nz17
11-23-2005, 05:42 AM
I re-read the IGN review, and it seriously feels like 90% of it was written weeks ago. I mean, I think everyone had a bad first impression playing the game, but it does pick up, right?

Oh yeah, it definitely picks up. The game actually becomes much more fun the more you play it. It seems to be one of those games where you first have to get into the groove of it, and then once you understand how it operates, it is a blast!

When you begin to memorize the levels, that's when it becomes really fun!

goatdan
11-23-2005, 09:59 AM
Everything that everyone has said about it makes me feel like I'm reading Sonic Adventure reviews all over again.

I think in general Sonic in 3D is a love it or hate it type deal. I'll be picking this up eventually, for sure.

Crush Crawfish
11-23-2005, 07:46 PM
I still think giving Shadow a gun is one of the worst idea's I've ever heard, but I'm still picking it up at some point, considering that I'm a huge Sonic fanatic. Hopefully It'll be better than the reviews are making it out to be.

DonMarco
11-24-2005, 11:37 AM
I still think giving Shadow a gun is one of the worst idea's I've ever heard, but I'm still picking it up at some point, considering that I'm a huge Sonic fanatic. Hopefully It'll be better than the reviews are making it out to be.
Giving SONIC a gun would've been even worse.

No. No. ... Tails. NO

Chao. NO!!

Sonic.

Nz17
11-25-2005, 06:06 AM
I still think giving Shadow a gun is one of the worst idea's I've ever heard, but I'm still picking it up at some point, considering that I'm a huge Sonic fanatic. Hopefully It'll be better than the reviews are making it out to be.

I completely agree. Dumb idea. Sonic Team has wanted to make a shooter game for a long time, and in a recent poll, Shadow was the character fans wanted most to star in his own game. So I'm sure someone at SEGA put one and one together and elected Sonic Team to use the Sonic Adventure game engine to make this game.


Giving SONIC a gun would've been even worse.

No. No. ... Tails. NO

Chao. NO!!

Sonic.

Actually I was thinking about this the other day. If I had more ambition I would make a "Shadow" parody comic series. Everyone would be all "urban" and super-angsty. Cream would be wielding a pistol and talking kid-smack.

Nz17
11-25-2005, 06:08 AM
Giving SONIC a gun would've been even worse.

There's actually a point in the first stage where Sonic says, "You'd never catch me using one of those!" (refering to Shadow's guns)