Why Object to remakes of classic games?

[kevin_psx]

Example - final fantasy 6 remake or SMB3 remake

Hear some people complain "it shouldn't happen". Why? Why if two versions - one with sprites - one with polygons - exist?? Will existence of a Remake diminish the original's fun?

Nope.


Metroid Zero was awesome. Mario Bros 1/2/3 remake for Super Nintendo was awesome. And the FF7 on PS3 demo was sweet. Can see no reason to object to a Final Fantasy or Mario Bros 3 Remake.

Your thoughts?

[Arkaign]

I agree, I don't care either way, buy what you like :) Let the market decide. If you like the original better, then just keep right on enjoying it! Etc. Yeah..

It's not up to me to dictate what's for other people :P

[njiska]

My main objection is that many remakes are poorly done and aren't worth the time wased developing them. Although if the team puts a lot of effort into it i'm all for it. Basically

Remakes like REmake = Hell yes make em
Remakes like the Sega Arcade Classics = Hell no.

[AMG]

As long as the remake is well done, I'm all for it.

[davepesc]

I think poor remakes detract from the original. Plus, it just hurts a bit to see someone shit on something you love. Just look at all the remade movies over the past few years.

Now, Imagine your favorite movie NEW and now MORE XTREME and now starring Keanu Reeves and Adam Sandler.

[swlovinist]

Good remakes are few and far between. I dont mind any remake as long as it stays true to the classic. I second the vote for Sega Classics being dogshit.

[Lady Jaye]

My only complaint about remakes, really: it's that often the game will be dumbed down. See the Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior remakes. They are all a lot easier than the original. Heck, even Super Mario 2 is a lot easier on the GBA than even the SNES version (not to mention the original NES version)...

There should be, at the very least, a "original" difficulty level, corresponding to the difficulty level of the original version. In the Super Mario remakes, for example, it could include a disabled save feature...

[Haoie]

Remakes, like the continuation of a 'safe series' [ala FF] often can lead to a decline in innovation and fresh thinking.

[CYRiX]

As long as the remake is well done, I'm all for it.
What I say

[Sailorneorune]

I agree with AMG... if the remakes are well-done, then by all means!

Examples: Resident Evil GC, Super Mario All-Stars, Metroid Zero Mission, Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green.

/my 2 cents

-Sailorneorune

[EnemyZero]

i have no objections as long as they dont change what made it good in the first place...

[boatofcar]

Heck, even Super Mario 2 is a lot easier on the GBA than even the SNES version (not to mention the original NES version)...


I didn't realize this. Did they just add more enemies?

[Cryomancer]

Sega Classics Collection has more to it than you might think...

In Japan, all those games came out as seperate releases, and they many came with cool sega gear, t-shirts and whatnot. They were packed full of great stuff. The series is still running, just recentely they released the space harrier collection which is the arcade original, the genesis space harrier II, and the 3D SMS version. pretty sure that came with some kind of goggles too. if and when the phantsy star trilogy comes over, it'll be made from the remakes in that series of games.

basically we're lucky we got them at all, and they gave it to us all at once. And most of those games are great guys. I don't understand the hate.

[sabre2922]

Sega Classics Collection has more to it than you might think...

In Japan, all those games came out as seperate releases, and they many came with cool sega gear, t-shirts and whatnot. They were packed full of great stuff. The series is still running, just recentely they released the space harrier collection which is the arcade original, the genesis space harrier II, and the 3D SMS version. pretty sure that came with some kind of goggles too. if and when the phantsy star trilogy comes over, it'll be made from the remakes in that series of games.

basically we're lucky we got them at all, and they gave it to us all at once. And most of those games are great guys. I don't understand the hate.

I agree I like the Sega classics collection and have a full UNBIASED review that I wrote on my BLOG that might help clear up some confusion for those not in the know about what the Sega classics collection is all about.

Now about the topic at hand I like most remakes and most are good to great- REmake on gamecube= great , Metroid Zero mission=great, Metal Gear Twin Snakes=good


Im all for Remakes if done right or as long as it keeps in the tradition of the original hell Im still waitng for a Remake of the original Silent Hill so that many of the more graphic savvy (to put it nicely) gamers and those new to the video game hobby will have a chance to experience this great game that transcends what video games traditionaly bring to the table.

[Lady Jaye]

Heck, even Super Mario 2 is a lot easier on the GBA than even the SNES version (not to mention the original NES version)...


I didn't realize this. Did they just add more enemies?

This page gives a quick summary of what's new in Super Mario Advance (aka SMB2): http://www.smbhq.com/sma.htm

Throughout the years, I never was good at SMB2, not even in the Mario All-Stars version. Yet, I had no difficulty beating the GBA port...

[heyricochet]

There should be, at the very least, a "original" difficulty level, corresponding to the difficulty level of the original version. In the Super Mario remakes, for example, it could include a disabled save feature...

Why when you can just not save or if it autosaves start from the beginning when you turn it off?

[Captain Wrong]

1) as long as the original is still avaliable, I'm cool but...

2) I can't help but wish all the resources being put towards redoing something old were put towards making something new and different.

That's my biggest complaint. I'd still rather play a new game than a prettier version of something I've already played.

[kevin_psx]

Now, Imagine your favorite movie NEW and now MORE XTREME and now starring Keanu Reeves and Adam Sandler.

Psycho Remake with Stan Heche didn't ruin my memory of the original Hitchcock classic. And look at Ben Hur Remake. Widescreen. Color. Stereophonic sound. Much much better than the original - but still good - silent version.

Remakes take advantage of progression from silent to sound - black/white to color - tiny sprite things to real-looking people.

[XianXi]

I'm all for it as long as the remake meets or exceeds the original game's fun factor and playability.

[dragonlord]

Let those discontinued games & systems stay discontinued. The second you start re-releasing this stuff, it loses its value (not nescessarily money wise). There's something special about playing a game that can't be played any other way than by inserting it into your archaic machine. I mean you put effort into collecting these rare 20 year old games and keeping them in a good enough condition that you can still play em...then all of the sudden some kid, who has never seen a real NES in his life, pops a remake into his gba.

HOWEVER, I must admit, for the most part these re-released games are very good...like Final Fantasy: Dawn of Souls

[Fuyukaze]

I have no problem with re-releases, so much as re-makes. A re-release to me is basicly a second, third, fourth or so release of a game as it originaly was. Be it on the same system, or a later system. Re-makes basicly take the old game, and screw with the formula. They change things like making it 3-D, chaging the graphics completly, changing the story, and such. It takes from what ever was great about the game originaly. Sure, sometimes re-makes add great features. They can add auto-maps, save features, lower difficulty, and such, but if I had to choose between a re-make and a re-release, I'd pick re-release. It's as the game was originaly intended. Then again, sometimes the re-makes are nicely bundled like sega clasics. In those few exceptions, I just dont care. My two cents.

[jdc]

I look at it this way. If a remake can allow me the opportunity to play a long-dead or obscure important game that I missed because of not having discovered videogaming at the time of it's release, then I say bring it on please. It will suffice while I track down the original. LOL

[evildead2099]

Just you wait until Nintedo remakes Mario Is Missing.... Then you'll be sorry! LOL

[Chronodriftersx]

anyone bring up the re-make of final fantasy 3J yet?

[roushimsx]

Count me in as another Sega Classics fan and a fan of remakes that add to the original game.

Sure, there were some alarmingly shitty titles in the Sega Classics collection (Hi Golden Axe!), but then there were Space Harrier, Puyo Puyo ~Perfect Set~, Gain Ground, and Virtua Racing which I felt did a damn good job of updating the games.

Space Harrier added a new targeting system, Puyo Puyo offered high resolution 2d sprite love, Gain Ground gave us spiced up 3d graphics on an already awesome game base, and Virtua Racing smoothed out the framerate and made the driving model more accessable to people. Lord, and let's not forget the awesomeness of the Fantasy Zone remake.

There's times when the remakes don't offer enough or somehow fuck up in major ways that just create a shitstain that taints the name of remakes. Final Fantasy I and II for Wonderswan did very little other than update the graphics for both games, not even bothering to clean up the gameplay problems that had existed for over a decade. Golden Axe PS2 removed levels and bosses, smashed levels together, AND had terrible graphics.

Oh, and another vote for Metroid Zero Mission. Great example of taking a classic game and updating it to modern standards.

[ubersaurus]

I don't mind remakes at all. I mean, let's look at it from the perspective of someone who does not collect video games, and does not own a bunch of consoles. Does it not make sense for a remake to come out, for this person to play the game, for the most part, as it was? Revamped, possibly, to some varying degree of success? I mean, a good game is a good game, but if barely anyone can play it, what's the point?

And business wise it makes sense too. You've got this old, quality game, or game design, but you can't make any money off of it in the resale market. Why not remake it?