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ZackyH
11-21-2005, 10:08 PM
So Jack Thompson has a book out that you can order on Amazon. What happened is that a bunch of people added some pictures, some links to gay sex books, and some extremely negative reviews. He wants to sue Amazon for it. You can read all about it on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_thompson#Amazon.com_Threatened_With_Legal_Act ion

He wrote a review on Amazon and most people are picking this section out to say he's bonkers.


I am a Christian. I proclaim the power, the sovereignty, the grace, and the incredible brilliance of the Creator of the Universe. You pixelantes, you filthy-mouthed sad little people who here are attacking me simply because I have boldly and at times belligerently lived out the truth of what this world is supposed to be, please know that He is far smarter than either you or me. You are trying to hurt me. He is going to use your sin to bless me. He already has. It has deepened my resolve, for example, to destroy the makers of the Grand Theft Auto games. Amazon.com, and what it is showcasing here about the depravity of the video game culture, mandates that Rockstar Games be destroyed.

SlayerX
11-21-2005, 10:16 PM
That Jack Thompson, he's bonkers.

Im going to sue ebay, because due to their limitations of blah blah blah, my item didn't sell, the quality wasnt the same as when I uploaded. Why am I going to sue? Cause im a christian, blah blah blah.

I wish I was a media figure and could sue anybody over anything :(

ZackyH
11-21-2005, 10:22 PM
Don't get me wrong. I don't like Jack Thompson or agree with any of his views. But one thing about it is that one of the uploaded pictures was his book cover with bullet holes all around him. Another one had a bunch of ding dongs going into his mouth. Some of the reviews called him a terrorist and other claims that were kind of in bad taste. Yeah, some of the stuff some people chose to do was pretty extreme and kind of stupid. Also, because of all of the attention over what those users chose to do the book is going back up in sales.

Poofta!
11-21-2005, 11:16 PM
wikipedia is the worst place in teh world for news and generally any kind of information, i would assume people here are intelligent enough to know this. you do know that lots of stuff there is just flat out lies right?

not sure if this is fact or lie (may very well be fact) but seriously, wikipedia?

pacmanhat
11-22-2005, 01:30 AM
wikipedia is the worst place in the world for news and generally any kind of information, i would assume people here are intelligent enough to know this. you do know that lots of stuff there is just flat out lies right?

not sure if this is fact or lie (may very well be fact) but seriously, wikipedia?

This couldn't be further from the truth. Wikipedia is one of the most amazing resources in the history of the internet...I don't know how it could be seen any other way.

exit
11-22-2005, 03:00 AM
This guy make insane people seem completely normal. For serious, he's a lawyer trying to sue Amazon over the use of the first amendment.

He's a bigger joke than ParisHilton.

ZackyH
11-22-2005, 06:28 AM
wikipedia is the worst place in the world for news and generally any kind of information, i would assume people here are intelligent enough to know this. you do know that lots of stuff there is just flat out lies right?

not sure if this is fact or lie (may very well be fact) but seriously, wikipedia?

It's fact. The article has the sources which are from Gamepolitics.com . Jack Thompson likes to send his cc'd e-mails to that site whenever he decides to do anything.

zerohero
11-22-2005, 07:09 AM
LOL , this kinda stuff happens on the internet. I mean don't get me started on some of the reviews on www.imdb.com for some movies. People will vote a 1 just so one of their favorite movies will get boosted up. So this is not to surprising, but it is kinda funny.

kevin_psx
11-22-2005, 08:52 AM
BACKLASH

Thompson's loud-mouth rantings are good news for us gamers. Senators Hillary & Joe Lieberman will move away from Thompson. They don't want to associate with a nutcase.


Why did amazon allow bad language & pornographic pictures? Thought they rejected such material.

ZackyH
11-22-2005, 09:16 AM
BACKLASH

Thompson's loud-mouth rantings are good news for us gamers. Senators Hillary & Joe Lieberman will move away from Thompson. They don't want to associate with a nutcase.


Why did amazon allow bad language & pornographic pictures? Thought they rejected such material.

I'm thinking they don't monitor everything that's going on and rely on their users to report everything. Since most of the gamers were against JT anyway they decided to give the pictures good ratings so they stayed there for awhile. Last time I checked they have removed all of the user pictures.

Update: It appears that JT thinks there's a conspiracy against him perpetrated by Amazon employees.


Ever tilting at windmills, anti-game violence crusader Jack Thompson now wages a two-front war against a pair of formidable opponents, both of which happen to begin with the letter "A". Coincidence or design? You decide. Here's what GamePolitics knows:

We spent a lost weekend reporting on Thompson's dust-up with massive online retailer Amazon.com. On Saturday we chronicled the mounting negative reader reviews and tags appearing on the Amazon listing for Thompson's new book, Out of Harm's Way. We also reported that Thompson issued a deadline to Amazon to remove the reviews.

On Sunday, GP skipped the Eagles-Giants (eh, Philly got hammered, anyway) to bring readers the full scoop on a viral anti-Thompson campaign that employed the full range of Amazon's customer interface in backlash against the Miami lawyer. An evening deadline imposed by Thompson came and went, but the nasty reviews, tags, lists, recommendations and user-submitted pictures remained.

Yesterday, the controversial attorney wrote to Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, saying, in part:

"You apparently have in your own corporate division that is supposed to make this illicit activity stop individuals sympathetic to the 'gaming culture' (oxymoronically named). Maybe you need more adults in there... Why Amazon.com would want to knowingly collaborate in violations of the First Amendment, I really can't quite fathom. You're supposed to like books, not spike books... But let me assure, that Amazon.com does so at its own grave risk."

This morning GP notes that the user pics are gone, as are links to lists of gay sex and bondage books. 232 reviews and 154 tags remain, however, as do sex manuals linked to the book's affiliate ad. It's unclear whether the backlash campaign helped or hurt sales of Thompson's book. As we write this, Out of Harm's Way is ranked 88,658 on Amazon...

- http://www.livejournal.com/users/gamepolitics/137095.html

Captain Wrong
11-22-2005, 10:52 AM
Amazon doesn't monitor the reviews at all. Check any politically charged book (leftie or righty) and read the user "reviews". x_x

Not to mention the number of people who review items that aren't out yet/have never been released.

Amazon user reviews are rarely worth the time it takes to read them, much of that due to the fact that no one at Amazon seems to care about them.

Ed Oscuro
11-22-2005, 12:18 PM
Amazon doesn't monitor the reviews at all. Check any politically charged book (leftie or righty) and read the user "reviews". x_x
Supposedly they can pull them. I think if somebody complains about a particular review (I actually do now and then) they get pulled, but I've never checked back with a review to see if it's been taken down LOL

Captain Wrong
11-22-2005, 01:05 PM
Amazon doesn't monitor the reviews at all. Check any politically charged book (leftie or righty) and read the user "reviews". x_x
Supposedly they can pull them. I think if somebody complains about a particular review (I actually do now and then) they get pulled, but I've never checked back with a review to see if it's been taken down LOL

Just to test this, I did it once. (Someone had a very neanderthal review of a CD laced with offensive language.) Last time I checked, it was still there.

ZackyH
11-22-2005, 02:04 PM
Well, Amazon has taken a bunch of the reviews down and edited a bunch of them as well. There are only 26 left. There were over 200.

Push Upstairs
11-22-2005, 02:36 PM
Hell hath no fury like a nerds wrath.


I still cannot believe this guy is real...this stuff is too comical for it to be an actual person. LOL

kevin_psx
11-22-2005, 02:40 PM
Amazon's claim "We will review your submission before posting" is a lie?

boatofcar
11-22-2005, 02:45 PM
wikipedia is the worst place in the world for news and generally any kind of information, i would assume people here are intelligent enough to know this. you do know that lots of stuff there is just flat out lies right?

not sure if this is fact or lie (may very well be fact) but seriously, wikipedia?

What are you talking about? Wikipedia is one of the best resources on earth for information, and (unlike Amazon) does check its submissions regularly.

stressboy
11-22-2005, 03:36 PM
I hope that when this guy finally implodes, he does it on live TV. Hopefully on a so-called "Family Friendly" show. During primetime.

Joker T
11-22-2005, 04:09 PM
What a dick head

Jorpho
11-22-2005, 10:23 PM
I hope that when this guy finally implodes, he does it on live TV. Hopefully on a so-called "Family Friendly" show. During primetime.

I think there's already been more than enough material over the last few months for a quality movie-of-the-week.

njiska
11-23-2005, 01:02 PM
Freedom's a bitch

And she rides a horse named Amazon :P

Ok that's going in my quote list. Well done. LOL

Jack does have a point about many reviews being about him instead of the book and about the amazon bombing that links pron books to his, but all the same it's a book of self-righteous drivel, so it's automatically crap. Why? Because Jack's not Kobe. Almost no one outside of gamers knows him and no one want to listen to some "unknown" tell them how to live their life.

Bad review are all he's gonna get outside of maybe, MAYBE, the Christian Coalition.

Jorpho
11-23-2005, 01:56 PM
And yet, with this much publicity, so many more people are likely to buy it anyway than there would be if he hadn't said a thing about Amazon (if for no other reason than morbid curiosity). Funny how these things work out, isn't it?