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i always thought vega came accross as pretty camp. that claw reminds me of a set of long nails and the way the man stands and acts just mankes me feel that every time he beats me - i've been beaten by a girl!
What exactly does camp mean?
gay, homosexual!
Hmm never heard that one before.
Benimaru, Ash Crimson (both from the King of Fighters).
Zangrief (jap) steriotypical gay guy.
The acupunturist from Shadow Hearts damn cant remember his name.
Tron 2.0
11-22-2005, 07:03 AM
Zophar Lunar EB :P
roushimsx
11-22-2005, 07:31 AM
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Ash from Bare Knuckle 3
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Graham Mitchell
11-22-2005, 07:33 AM
Tom, from Shenmue, who runs the hot dog stand.
zerohero
11-22-2005, 07:50 AM
Vamp was, and still is pushing it from MGS2...
BrokenFlight
11-22-2005, 08:20 AM
gay, homosexual!
More specifically, someone who's flamboyantly gay. Camp is a category within gay.
roushimsx's post was a good example.
Yamazaki
11-22-2005, 08:54 AM
Well I wouldn't really consider Ash gay LOL
Well I wouldn't really consider Ash gay LOL
? His fav hobby is "nail art" and he wears that little hair baret or what ever you call them.
why does everyone think ash is gay? i don't get it? :)
Pantechnicon
11-22-2005, 10:39 AM
Tom, from Shenmue, who runs the hot dog stand.
No way. He's not camp by this definition...just a little flamboyant is all.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/screenshots_library/dir_40/vortal_pic_20439.jpg
If anything he only represents how poorly the Japanese understand Black American culture circa 1986.
Ed Oscuro
11-22-2005, 11:00 AM
Damn, I was thinking "campy" in the U.S. sense (and my pick would've been George Custer from...you know what!)
Uh, Baroness from Phantom Dust. Didn't see that one coming, did you?
Juste from Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance, as well.
Vroomfunkel
11-22-2005, 11:06 AM
Second Ash from Bare Knuckle III.
Also submit: any character at all from the Saturn version of Cho Aniki :eek 2:
Easily the camp-est game I have ever seen ...
Vroomfunkel
poloplayr
11-22-2005, 11:09 AM
Campy the Camper
rbudrick
11-22-2005, 12:57 PM
How the hell did the gang from Cho Aniki not get mentioned as the very first post?
-Rob
djbeatmongrel
11-22-2005, 01:12 PM
bridget from Guilty Gear X-2. for those with no clue on this, Bridget is a boy that dresses and acts like a girl.
Ed Oscuro
11-22-2005, 01:12 PM
More to the point, why is it even necessary to mention that series? LOL
Snapple
11-22-2005, 01:22 PM
Bridget made us all a little gay.
Or maybe that was just me.
Anyway, how about Big Gay Al who made an appearance in the South Park FPS for N64? If Big Gay Al isn't camp, I don't know who is.
evildead2099
11-22-2005, 01:33 PM
Benimaru, Ash Crimson (both from the King of Fighters).
bridget from Guilty Gear X-2. for those with no clue on this, Bridget is a boy that dresses and acts like a girl.
Newsflash: Dressing like a member of the opposite sex does not make you homosexual.
And what you made is probably a sexist assumption, too: I doubt you'd assume a female is a lesbian simply because she's wearing jeans or some other sort of attire that has been traditionally reserved for males. Hell, I'm willing to bet that you don't even consider girls who wear jeans "transgendered" just because the fascist (er, fashion) industry says that it's "in style" for girls to dress like boys.
I wear clothing which has traditionally been reserved exclusively for males as well as clothing that has traditionally been reserved exclusively for females. Doing that has no bearing on what my sexual orientation is.
By the way, did I miss a meeting? Since when does the term "camp" mean "gay"?!?
Sanriostar
11-22-2005, 01:43 PM
These guys:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/cataldoj/images/orz.jpg
:D
rbudrick
11-22-2005, 02:31 PM
By the way, did I miss a meeting? Since when does the term "camp" mean "gay"?!?
Well, since camping, you silly goose. :dance: :whip:
-Rob
prismra
11-22-2005, 02:52 PM
Jar Jar!
Push Upstairs
11-22-2005, 03:21 PM
By the way, did I miss a meeting? Since when does the term "camp" mean "gay"?!?
I missed the meeting too. I'ver always heard "camp" being used with (un)intentionally silly/dumb movies.
fishsandwich
11-22-2005, 03:36 PM
Dictionary.com....
Camp (noun) An affectation or appreciation of manners and tastes commonly thought to be artificial, vulgar, or banal.
Banality, vulgarity, or artificiality when deliberately affected or when appreciated for its humor: “Camp is popularity plus vulgarity plus innocence” (Indra Jahalani).
Campy (adj) Providing sophisticated amusement by virtue of having artificially (and vulgarly) mannered or banal or sentimental qualities; "they played up the silliness of their roles for camp effect"; "campy Hollywood musicals of the 1940's"
Gay culture seems to appreciate the many elements that make up "camp" so the term is often used when decribing gay movies, plays, parties, etc.
Vroomfunkel
11-22-2005, 03:38 PM
By the way, did I miss a meeting? Since when does the term "camp" mean "gay"?!?
I missed the meeting too. I'ver always heard "camp" being used with (un)intentionally silly/dumb movies.
Camp = overacted (intentionally or unintentionally) = (stereotypically) gay.
It's had that meaning for years ... you've never heard anyone talk about "camp it up a little"? It isn't always used to mean "gay" as such, but to a particular way of acting that is often associated with gay men.
Now go back over all those conversations of the last 20 years, and hope that you didn't monumentally misunderstand some of them LOL
Vroomfunkel
Push Upstairs
11-22-2005, 03:42 PM
I have only used the term for cheesy movies....never anything else.
evildead2099
11-22-2005, 03:46 PM
I have only used the term for cheesy movies....never anything else.
Likewise.
jajaja
11-22-2005, 03:51 PM
There was some user who had an avtar with some gay wrestlers here a while ago. Also some pics in the signature haha. What game was that from?
Spartacus
11-22-2005, 05:44 PM
Secundo just seemed "campy" to me.
http://tinypic.com/fz2rya.jpg
devilman
11-22-2005, 05:57 PM
By the way, did I miss a meeting? Since when does the term "camp" mean "gay"?!?
I missed the meeting too. I'ver always heard "camp" being used with (un)intentionally silly/dumb movies.
Camp = overacted (intentionally or unintentionally) = (stereotypically) gay.
It's had that meaning for years ... you've never heard anyone talk about "camp it up a little"? It isn't always used to mean "gay" as such, but to a particular way of acting that is often associated with gay men.
Now go back over all those conversations of the last 20 years, and hope that you didn't monumentally misunderstand some of them LOL
Vroomfunkel
To be fair, I think it's a term more used in the UK than the US.
I think I'd vote for the King in Katamari...
Graham Mitchell
11-22-2005, 08:15 PM
Tom, from Shenmue, who runs the hot dog stand.
No way. He's not camp by this definition...just a little flamboyant is all.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/screenshots_library/dir_40/vortal_pic_20439.jpg
If anything he only represents how poorly the Japanese understand Black American culture circa 1986.
I was kidding, of course. I guess the sarcasm doesn't come across in prose. You're right, though. He's just lame, not necessarily flamin'.
Benimaru, Ash Crimson (both from the King of Fighters).
bridget from Guilty Gear X-2. for those with no clue on this, Bridget is a boy that dresses and acts like a girl.
Newsflash: Dressing like a member of the opposite sex does not make you homosexual.
And what you made is probably a sexist assumption, too: I doubt you'd assume a female is a lesbian simply because she's wearing jeans or some other sort of attire that has been traditionally reserved for males. Hell, I'm willing to bet that you don't even consider girls who wear jeans "transgendered" just because the fascist (er, fashion) industry says that it's "in style" for girls to dress like boys.
I wear clothing which has traditionally been reserved exclusively for males as well as clothing that has traditionally been reserved exclusively for females. Doing that has no bearing on what my sexual orientation is.
Fine but note how I didn't mention king, although she does dress like a man she does not have male manerisms (none that I've seen anyways)
Ash and Benima on the other hand have manerisms that to me seems well gay. How many straight men really find nail art as a hobby?
On Bridget from what I've read is a little boy whos father wanted a girl so has there for has made his son into the daughter he allways wanted.
Oh and just for curiosity what clothing do you wear that is traditionally reserved for girls?
evildead2099
11-22-2005, 10:16 PM
note how I didn't mention king, although she does dress like a man she does not have male manerisms (none that I've seen anyways)
That's what I was getting at with my comment about how the standards which people take for granted with respect to clothing are sexist in the sense that they afford women a great deal more freedom than men. Women are free to dress like men without being stigmatized, labelled 'cross-dressers' or warrant allegations of homosexuality. My remark was not meant to personally single you out; it's a comment which is equally applicable to just about every other person at Digital Press (I happen to know of a few DP members, however, who are open-minded about 'cross-dressing' even though they do not claim to practice it themselves).
On Bridget from what I've read is a little boy whos father wanted a girl so has there for has made his son into the daughter he allways wanted.
Hmmm... I'll have to move beyond Guilty Gear X (DC) to see what you're referring to, I suppose. Thanks for the info.
Oh and just for curiosity what clothing do you wear that is traditionally reserved for girls?
Whatever I feel like, basically. Sometimes I go out wearing knee-length or ankle-length skirts. They're not much different from the kilts that I occasionally wear, save for the differing material / patterns and the fact that society selectively approves of men wearing of kitls to the exclusion of men wearing skirts.
I live in a part of town where there are a lot of immigrants who came over from arabic countries, and many of them do not even seem to take much notice how how I am dressed since the robes which many of their elders wear sort of resemble long skirts or - dare I say it? - dresses.
Sometimes I'll appropriate lacey apparel in the uncommon circumstance that I'll head out for a night out on the town; it blends right in - in the comapny of subcultural individuals, that is.
I am by no means a drag queen; I don't go overboard and I feel that I present myself in a pretty tasteful way. I don't dress to shock people, but if people cannot cope with the thought of the man enjoying the same freedom of fashion that we allow women, my attitude to those people is 'the hell with you!'
Push Upstairs
11-22-2005, 11:58 PM
<Eddie Izzard>Executive Transvestite?</Eddie Izzard>
Aussie2B
11-23-2005, 03:12 AM
There was some user who had an avtar with some gay wrestlers here a while ago. Also some pics in the signature haha. What game was that from?
Hehe, I'm glad my Sexy Avatar Week pictures have been remembered. :) They were of Adon and Samson from Cho Aniki. They're not gay, though; they're brothers. ;)
On a more serious note, as for this conversation about cross-dressing, I think maybe women DESERVE to have a little more freedom with how they dress compared to men, seeing how just fifty years ago we weren't even allowed to wear anything other than a dress or skirt regardless of how cold it got. And go a little further back from that and we weren't allowed to show our ankles or wrists without creating a scandal. And in America, it's perfectly okay for a man to walk around topless on a really hot day, but a woman sure as hell can't. Women are still judged far more than men based on how they present themselves, both by men and by other women. They're labeled as sluts, frumps, prudes, nerds, etc. all based on how they look. I'm sure a lot of people make judgments about me just because I wear glasses when I couldn't even wear contacts if I wanted to (a perfect example is a recent commercial I saw where a woman was having eye irritation or some such so she puts glasses on instead and her friend said "You're wearing glasses?!" as if it was the most horrible thing she's ever seen). The fact of the matter is that the value of a woman is judged based on her appearance FAR more than it is for men.
evildead2099
11-23-2005, 09:08 AM
Women are still judged far more than men based on how they present themselves, both by men and by other women. They're labeled as sluts, frumps, prudes, nerds, etc. all based on how they look.
I agree with that statement, but it sort of cancels most everything else you said concerning the (sub)topic. If the asymmetrical pressure to conform to gendered standards of dress puts more pressure on women to conform than men, it would make sense that men would be the ones with more freedom to dress the way they want, as opposed to women.
Women won that freedom because they fought for it. It's not unreasonable to assume that those women who pioneered the trend to dress like men were called every dirty name in the book for deviating from their gender's traditional prescriptions.
If you ask me, though, I think its rather trivial to fuss about how women should have more freedom to dress how they want than men if you consider how much more serious other issues of gender discrimination are. Besides, feminism isn't supposed to be about giving women more rights than men in one aspect or another; its supposed to be about equality, about erasing the advantages which are socially prescribed to one sex to the detriment of the other.
Gemini-Phoenix
11-23-2005, 10:21 AM
Well I wouldn't really consider Ash gay LOL
Camp is like "wannabe gay". Girlie in other words, but not quite all-out gay. "Camp" guys will have gay menerisms, but may actually not be gay. If that makes sense. Some guys just like being that way. Others are like that as they have had a lot of female role models opposed to male ones...
Ash (KOF) I would say is more metrosexual than camp. He is "new-man". He is David Beckham of the videogame world. All moisturiser and hair wax...
I would probably say that Big Gay Al (South Park) is perhaps one of the contenders for prize in this thread. Also, there are a few poofy characters in Final Fantasy VII, in the slum where Don Corneo resides ~ anyone remember having to do squats for a wig, or getting jumped by some macho guy in the knocking shop...
PS: If anyone mentions my nu-punk style purple & black nails, or my recently purchased pimp style fluffy jacket, i'll sue you! ;)
evildead2099
11-23-2005, 03:37 PM
"Camp" guys will have gay menerisms, but may actually not be gay.
Metrosexual?
XxMe2NiKxX
11-23-2005, 03:47 PM
Super Mario.
*Shot indefinately*
Cryomancer
11-23-2005, 03:57 PM
If this was just the cheese factor definition I was gonna say Serious Sam.
rbudrick
11-23-2005, 04:58 PM
Hehe, I'm glad my Sexy Avatar Week pictures have been remembered. :) They were of Adon and Samson from Cho Aniki. They're not gay, though; they're brothers. ;)
Well not gay with each other! Which is extremely debatable considering some of their poses together.
But definitely gay. Gayest, even. LOL
-Rob
Aussie2B
11-23-2005, 07:06 PM
Hey, I'm just telling ya how the story goes. :P Masaya has never officially labeled any character in the series as gay or shown them doing any clear sexual act (of course, every situation is dripping with innuendo). Some characters are definitely cross-dressers, though, hehe. Gotta love the PS2 Cho Aniki boss that's dressed like Alice of Alice in Wonderland. :)
evildead2099
11-23-2005, 11:12 PM
Duke Nukem is gay; all those guns, his bulging muscles, and his macho attitude are his attempts to distract people from his actual orientation.