My Game Collection was Stolen

[kevin_psx]

Short story - lost 50 PS2 / cube games

Long story -

Fire hit my apartment house tuesday night. Firefighters forced everyone to evacuate. When I came back wednesday morn my apartment was okay. The firefighters did a stupendous job - only 1 apartment destroyed + the lobby. ----- My door was still hanging open - and my box filled with 50 gaming DVDs disappeared. Some thief grabbed the box and ran during the night.

Sucks. A lot of those were sold on Ebay & I was supposed to ship them. Now I can't. Probably get 30-40 negatives. [edit - Still think downloading/stealing games is okay? People get hurt. People like me. I lost about $1000 worth of games. Stealing is not okay.]



I'm okay. My clothes smell smokey. Phone is dead. Cable is dead. But I have heat - so no worry about freezing.



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[unwinddesign]

Or you could refund the buyers' money? :/

[kevin_psx]

Or you could refund the buyers' money? :/

O_O That was insulting. What? I kept the money? No.

[Darth Sensei]

Umm... bummer for your loss, but what does that have to do with downloading?

[kevin_psx]

what does that have to do with downloading?

"stealing games is okay? People get hurt. People like me."

[linlhutz]

Or you could refund the buyers' money? :/

O_O That was insulting. What? I kept the money? No.


Edit:

Disregard

[PDorr3]

Or you could refund the buyers' money? :/

O_O That was insulting. What? I kept the money? No.

isnt that the right thing to do though?

[Chronodriftersx]

read it again thats what he said he did

[Ed Oscuro]

Look, I'm really sorry your stuff got stolen, but as others have said, there's no problem with eBay because you can simply go through the "item was lost/destroyed" process and refund their money, as you yourself acknowledged. Why would you get a negative when you're given them a refund?

I hate to get confrontational when you've had something clearly traumatic happen, but I'm wondering why you've been posting as if nothing happened when you've just had a FIRE. I also wonder what's going on in your brain when you post some of this stuff.

I guess that explains why you've been dropping so many topics on us, though.

[DigitalSpace]

Sucks to hear about that. Sorry.

[unwinddesign]

Or you could refund the buyers' money? :/

O_O That was insulting. What? I kept the money? No.

Given the statement in your original post, it sounded as if you were keeping the money. There would be no reason for 30 or 40 people to leave negative feedback if you explained the situation to them -- it is unreasonable and unrealistic given the fact they were refunded quickly. However, if you kept the money and instead explained the situation, the scenario you described would make more sense.

[kevin_psx]

Hopefully you are correct. Hear many stories of unfair negatives. Look @_@ - http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74941


I hate to get confrontational when you've had something clearly traumatic happen, but I'm wondering why you've been posting as if nothing happened when you've just had a FIRE. I also wonder what's going on in your brain when you post some of this stuff.

Yep. Confrontational. Probably best not to answer.

nah i'll answer - what the hell - Did you see me ednesday? No 'cause I was moving stuff to a new apartment!

[s1lence]

Sorry about your loss, but I'm really confused about some of the posts in this thread. O_O

[Griking]

Umm... bummer for your loss, but what does that have to do with downloading?

Or your customers. What so because you got robbed and can't deliver they don't deserve their money back since you can't provide the games? That's ok, PayPal will refund it for them.

Honestly, I feed bad for you, really. it's just that its not your customers faults. What if the shoe were on the other foot and you paid for an item and not only couldn't the seller provide it but they wouldn't refund your money as well.

That's just wrong.

[Flack]

Shit, I'm sorry. I downloaded 50 or so ROMs the other day which I think made your games disappear. On top of that, I think I may have started the fire as well. What a day.

[Kejoriv]

Sorry about your loss, but I'm really confused about some of the posts in this thread. O_O

I absolutely agree. downloading, stealing, fire. Im confused.

[THATinkjar]

Sorry about your loss, but I'm really confused about some of the posts in this thread. O_O

I absolutely agree. downloading, stealing, fire. Im confused.

The robber downloaded some ROMs and then set fire to them and the flat. Jeez, how hard is it to follow!

[philosophyst]

kevin_psx: your threads are getting on my nerves. Sorry but I can't help but say it.

Am I the only one?

I mean, I'm sorry to hear about the fire and all but you really don't make much sense most of the time. I'm not just talking about this specific topic either, you seem to be typing just to see yourself type.

[kevin_psx]

Fire happened.

Door left open by firemen - thief walked in & stole games.

MORAL - Stealing is wrong. I was hurt - lost $1000 of my hard-earned property.

MORAL #2 - Downloading ROMs is stealing. It makes you like the creep who stole $1000 of my games.

[robotriot]

When you're downloading ROMs, you're hurting a company. But when you steal stuff from someone's appartment, you're hurting an individual. I think that's a major difference ...

[Jibbajaba]

Am I the only one?

Nope.

Chris

[Poofta!]

Still think downloading/stealing games is okay? People get hurt. People like me. I lost about $1000 worth of games. Stealing is not okay.]

boo hoo, i fail to see the correlation between mIRC/usenet downloading and a man invading your personal space and physicall stealing a box of your stuff. maybe its just me.

[philosophyst]

maybe its just me.

Nope.

[petewhitley]

MORAL #2 - Downloading ROMs is stealing. It makes you like the creep who stole $1000 of my games.

Uh, no ... it doesn't. It's illegal, but it doesn't have anything to do with breaking into an individual's home and stealing their material possessions. Sorry about the loss, but you're way off base with that statement.

[kevin_psx]

edit - double post

[tylerwillis]

Shit, I'm sorry. I downloaded 50 or so ROMs the other day which I think made your games disappear. On top of that, I think I may have started the fire as well. What a day.

LOL

[kevin_psx]

Intellectual property is still property. You steal from Nintendo/Sega/et cetera. Just like stealing songs from Madonna or Avril Levigne or your local college band.

You take their intellectual property.
You steal their hard work.
You hurt them financially.


This is my last post on this thread. Time for weekend getaway.

[norkusa]

This is my last post on this thread. Time for weekend getaway.


This is my last post on this thread. Time for weekend getaway.

LOL

[Darth Sensei]

Umm... well my dad is bigger than your Dad!! So there!!

[kedawa]

MORAL #2 - Downloading ROMs is stealing. It makes you like the creep who stole $1000 of my games.Um, except when you download something, its still there.
You may as well be arguing that jaywalking is rape.

[Chronodriftersx]

intellectual property is a F*ed up term if you ask me. Its like saying hey the silence in the room in which I'm using to think and be intellectual and what not is mine so you have to pay me if you want to talk and disrupt my silence because its infringing on my intellectual property.

:-P theres something totally odd I know but since this threads over no as it is well hello...

[djbeatmongrel]

err i read the thread, can we get a collective WTF? all i understand is your name is kevin, you like playstation, there was a fire, games were stolen, and the sky is falling. is that correct? if this is how you normally tell your stories i'd hate to be the one taking down the police report about the stolen items...

[mezrabad]

Look, the main point is: This guy had 50 games in a box. They all got stolen at once. Yeah, it could've been worse, but none of us would be in a great mood if it happened to us right?

In the name Jesus Tits, would it kill any of us, for just this one thread, to give the guy a frickin' break and respond with a simple expression of sympathy instead of sarcasm, accusations (via poor reading comprehension) of bad ebay practices and general pissing match behavior just because he has opinions that you don't agree with and doesn't express them with the flare that you require? I'm not saying to let him slide with those asides elsewhere, but jeez, in the context of this thread why kick someone when they're obviously down?

Sorry about your games, Kevin. That sucks, but I'm glad not to hear that anyone was hurt.

[neo-zen]

that sucks, when i was younger i loaned my brother my sega master system and 30 + games and a few days later his house burned to the ground so i lost all of them :(

[Ed Oscuro]

You may as well be arguing that jaywalking is rape.
Hey, everybody's got their own reasons for helping old ladies across the street...you think Superman's such a straight arrow, don't you?

[Ed Oscuro]

Fire happened.

Door left open by firemen - thief walked in & stole games.

MORAL - Stealing is wrong. I was hurt - lost $1000 of my hard-earned property.

MORAL #2 - Downloading ROMs is stealing. It makes you like the creep who stole $1000 of my games.
Moral #3: Sue the fire department. They obviously stole your games.


intellectual property is a F*ed up term if you ask me. Its like saying hey the silence in room in which I'm using to think and be intellectual and what not is mine so you have to pay me if you want to talk and disrupt my silence.
If you say so!

[Chronodriftersx]

yesh well whatever it takes to get on par with some of the oddball stuff from threads like "is this considered illegal?"

Anway I added a word that was left out in that original post and expanded upon the end so its a little more funny, if that. :P

[petewhitley]

In the name Jesus Tits, would it kill any of us, for just this one thread, to give the guy a frickin' break and respond with a simple expression of sympathy instead of sarcasm, accusations (via poor reading comprehension) of bad ebay practices and general pissing match behavior just because he has opinions that you don't agree with and doesn't express them with the flare that you require? I'm not saying to let him slide with those asides elsewhere, but jeez, in the context of this thread why kick someone when they're obviously down?

Quite obviously, alot of readers found his comments asinine and irrelevant, despite his loss. If someone is going to act like a jackass I would expect them to get called out on it.

[Lothars]

Sorry about your loss, but I'm really confused about some of the posts in this thread. O_O

I absolutely agree. downloading, stealing, fire. Im confused.

The robber downloaded some ROMs and then set fire to them and the flat. Jeez, how hard is it to follow!

lol yes i bet that's how it went LOL

[James S-C]

MORAL #2 - Downloading ROMs is stealing. It makes you like the creep who stole $1000 of my games.

Downloading ROMs does not deprive another indvidual of physical property nor does it involve entering their personal space. You're an idiot.

[johno590]

This thread makes me think WTF.

Sorry for your loss, but that's kind of a stupid statment to make...

Downloading roms /= (does not equal) someone stealing personal property.

Unless the guy that stole those games already owned all of them, then its ok right?

[Kamino]

MORAL #2 - Downloading ROMs is stealing. It makes you like the creep who stole $1000 of my games.

Moral #3: Get off your fucking high horse. Nobody is going to let you get away with making high and mighty statements just because your shit got stolen.


Am I the only one?

Nope.

Chris
My reply to this is exactly the same as Jibba's.

[devils advocate]

Shit, I'm sorry. I downloaded 50 or so ROMs the other day which I think made your games disappear. On top of that, I think I may have started the fire as well. What a day.



Well that's a very moderate comment.


I can't believe this thread. What utter crap. It makes this board look horrible.

While Kevin probably had no need to literate every body on this board as to his personal feelings on downloading illegal material, I think perhaps I know why he did.
If one truly feels the way he does about downloading, one would probably fel betrayed by such a theft that occured. Kind of a back handed irony.... From HIS point of view. Your mileage may differ.

Now instead of being ignorant back to you Kevin, I'll try to help where I can.

I do lots of Ebay selling. I have also had one problem that was very similiar to yours. Here is how I fixed it.
I wrote a very honest form letter, explaining the problem. I changed names where applicable. People were understanding.. MOSTLY. I still received two negatives out of 25 sales. What can you do? Not every person is understanding, as we can see from this board.
The two negatives irked me, but it is the only two I have ever had . No big deal in hind sight.

As for the theft? Very sad. I would feel crappy too. Not only to be removed for fire, but to also be scammed in the process? Wow. I would be upset. My posts here might reflect that as well. Too bad people here can't get that.

As for the people that don't like Kevins posts? Easy solution. Don't read them. Don't respond to them . Problem solved.

Kevin, I hope you still have a happy holiday season. I'm sure that everybody else here meant to say that as well, in between their piracy rants and posting tirades.

Merry Christmas everybody, and let's hope our December goes more smoothly than Kevins.

[Sylentwulf]

intellectual property is a F*ed up term if you ask me. Its like saying hey the silence in the room in which I'm using to think and be intellectual and what not is mine so you have to pay me if you want to talk and disrupt my silence because its infringing on my intellectual property.

:-P theres something totally odd I know but since this threads over no as it is well hello...

You might want to actually LOOK UP the term before you post about it. Of course most of that post is completely illegible, but intellectual property is so you can't steal a non-physical invention, trademark or copyright. Kinda of like gaming code, websites, etc...

[kevin_psx]

MORAL #2 - Downloading ROMs is stealing. It makes you like the creep who stole $1000 of my games.Um, except when you download something, its still there.


If you download Mario 64x4 - instead of buying it - Nintendo has lost $20-30 of income. What Nintendo creates with the labor of their collective body - is their Property. And you stole the product of their sweat/labor. Why is the concept in bold so hard to understand? It's so simple. That idea is nearly 400 years old.




Okay supposed to be working not chatting. They fired a guy this past week - don't want to be next. 'Course it's his mess I'm cleaning up. This circuit card has more white wires than chips.

[kevin_psx]

Look, the main point is: This guy had 50 games in a box. They all got stolen at once. Yeah, it could've been worse, but none of us would be in a great mood if it happened to us right?

In the name Jesus Tits, would it kill any of us, for just this one thread, to give the guy a frickin' break and respond with a simple expression of sympathy instead of sarcasm, accusations (via poor reading comprehension) of bad ebay practices and general pissing match behavior

just because he has opinions that you don't agree with and doesn't express them with the flare that you require? I'm not saying to let him slide with those asides elsewhere, but jeez, in the context of this thread why kick someone when they're obviously down? HUGS MEZRABAD :cheers:

Reading this thread is more painful than the actual loss of my 50 games + forced moving to a new apartment.

Wish followed my first intention - keep quiet about the fire.

[briskbc]

Wish followed my first intention - keep quiet about the fire.

You were fine until this statement was posted


[edit - Still think downloading/stealing games is okay? People get hurt. People like me. I lost about $1000 worth of games. Stealing is not okay.]

I feel for you man. I hope everything goes as smoothly as possible with regards to the move. Best wishes.

[boatofcar]

Remember when you were making fun of everyone who had renter's insurance awhile back? I don't want to say I told you so, but...ok, I do want to say that. Sorry man, but you brought it on yourself by not getting it.

[Chronodriftersx]

You might want to actually LOOK UP the term before you post about it. Of course most of that post is completely illegibleblah blaj blah etc...

Well hello Mr Clean... Or is it Mr. Freeze, wheres your humor today was the bed a little cold for you?

I said it was only a joke right, here in this couplr of words where I'm pointing out how silly I was being


:-P theres something totally odd I know but since this threads over now as it is well hello...

Anyway Its just jokes my friend, a little bit of the funny to cure the mans blues who's thread you'd forgot you posted in.

[kevin_psx]

Remember when you were making fun of everyone who had renter's insurance awhile back? I don't want to say I told you so,

(1) Did not "make fun of" people. Please don't spread falsehoods. I stated my opinion - in the long run - it's cheaper to not have insurance. THE END. Did not attack any person.

(2) Cost of renter's insurance over last 15+ years of apartment living - $2250.

(3) Value of stolen games = $900-1000. I saved money from not having insurance.


(4) So my opinion remains the same - it's cheaper to not buy insurance. Insurance only benefits the CEO of Nationwide as he (a) sucks money from your wallet and (b) goes yachting in the Chesapeake Bay on your $$$$.




Even if insured - Already told you how insurance refused to pay for stolen blank tapes ("not covered"). Or a busted car windshield ("act of god - not covered"). They'd likely find excuse to not pay my stolen games.

[Chronodriftersx]

with all that insurence hassle you're gonna want these guys
http://images.reviewer.co.uk/screenshots/region2/r/rainmaker014.jpg
obscure

[darknut101]

Here's the culprit!


Shit, I'm sorry. I downloaded 50 or so ROMs the other day which I think made your games disappear. On top of that, I think I may have started the fire as well. What a day.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

[mezrabad]

In the name Jesus Tits, would it kill any of us, for just this one thread, to give the guy a frickin' break and respond with a simple expression of sympathy instead of sarcasm, accusations (via poor reading comprehension) of bad ebay practices and general pissing match behavior just because he has opinions that you don't agree with and doesn't express them with the flare that you require? I'm not saying to let him slide with those asides elsewhere, but jeez, in the context of this thread why kick someone when they're obviously down?

Quite obviously, alot of readers found his comments asinine and irrelevant, despite his loss. If someone is going to act like a jackass I would expect them to get called out on it.

So, jackasses can't have a bad day and be cut a little slack for saying something asinine?

I'm not a member of the "Bleeding Hearts for Jackasses Society" (BHeJaS, pronounced 'buh-hee-ches'), but everyone has bad days and everyone, at some point in their lives, is someone else's jackass. If people are looking for a little sport to brighten up their day surely they can find it in another thread?

This has not been DP's finest hour. Frankly, it's pretty embarassing.

Have fun pissing on one of your own, kids, gasoline and matches are in the garage if you want to get creative!

[Griking]

Look, the main point is: This guy had 50 games in a box. They all got stolen at once. Yeah, it could've been worse, but none of us would be in a great mood if it happened to us right?

In the name Jesus Tits, would it kill any of us, for just this one thread, to give the guy a frickin' break and respond with a simple expression of sympathy instead of sarcasm, accusations (via poor reading comprehension) of bad ebay practices and general pissing match behavior

just because he has opinions that you don't agree with and doesn't express them with the flare that you require? I'm not saying to let him slide with those asides elsewhere, but jeez, in the context of this thread why kick someone when they're obviously down? HUGS MEZRABAD :cheers:

Reading this thread is more painful than the actual loss of my 50 games + forced moving to a new apartment.

Wish followed my first intention - keep quiet about the fire.

The problem that I see it is the fact that you combined your moral crusade against roms with the fact that you lost a bunch of your games.

If you were to have just posted a message saying that your games were stolen everyone would have been more than sympathetic. But by including your opinion of the morals of downloading roms in the same post you opened yourself up to people who disagree with your opinion.

If you didn't want a debate you should have saved the rom debate for a different thread.

[stressboy]

Yes kevin, I am sure you have never ever in your life downloaded a rom, or mp3, or video clip, nothing like that at all.

Sorry for your loss btw.

[devils advocate]

Yes kevin, I am sure you have never ever in your life downloaded a rom, or mp3, or video clip, nothing like that at all.

Sorry for your loss btw.

Don't jump to conclusions about that type of thing. He may not.

I for one, have no cdr's even in my house. I just don't mind paying 10 bucks for my cd's. Each to their own.

And, many downloads are legal. It's usually pretty obvious what's legit, and what isn't.

I have friends with both views. It's just as normal not to download illegal stuff,as it is to do it. The rates probably have a lot to do with various demographics..

[kevin_psx]

PLEASE CLICK HERE
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=860767#860767











(holds up copies of Megaman Collection, Sonic Collection, Link to the Past GBA cart)

According to some of ye - we should not own these collections. We should go download them for free. Quote: "Nintendo/Sega don't get hurt if we download Megaman/Sonic/Zelda roms."

Why do you endorse this behavior?

[linlhutz]

This thread is dragging and starting to get messy. Can we get a lock please?

[stressboy]

PLEASE CLICK HERE
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=860767#860767











(holds up copies of Megaman Collection, Sonic Collection, Link to the Past GBA cart)

According to some of ye - we should not own these collections. We should go download them for free. Quote: "Nintendo/Sega don't get hurt if we download Megaman/Sonic/Zelda roms."

Why do you endorse this behavior?

Did you edit your post? And who the hell is saying you should not pay for games when they are readily available in the store(I am not talking about used)? I am not. I buy new games all the time. And while I do have MP3's, I also have a shitload of CD's. I do buy new stuff, and I am sure most of the people here do the same. I have not clicked on that thread but I will shortly.

The last rom I played was Soulblazer for the SNES. Show me where I can buy this game brand new at retail that will send profits to the publisher, and I will buy it with my next paycheck.

[stressboy]

This thread is dragging and starting to get messy. Can we get a lock please?

I agree.

[mezrabad]

Why do you endorse this behavior?

^^; Why do you keep bringing this up in this thread?

Are you trying to bring out the worst in us? O_O

I mean, c'mon, stay on your own topic, at least. There are plenty of other "legality of ROMs" threads.

[Xizer]

I think I'm going to go burn some Dreamcast games in honor of this thread.

[THATinkjar]

I think I'm going to go burn some Dreamcast games in honor of this thread.

'Set fire to' burn or 'write to a cd' burn? :)

[Jibbajaba]

If I can get enough DPers to paypal you $5-10 each to help cover your loss, will you promise to go away? I do apologize about Flack torching your apartment and stealing your shit. It was my night to watch him, but I got drunk on champagne coolies and watched Chicago over and over again.

My bad.

Chris

[Griking]

This thread is dragging and starting to get messy. Can we get a lock please?

I agree.


On the other hand I find it pretty arrogant for a person (other than a mod or the topic's author) to declare that a topic should be closed and that nobody else should be allowed to contribute to it. If you think it's dead then you have every right not to contribute any further.

Geez :roll:

[linlhutz]

This thread is dragging and starting to get messy. Can we get a lock please?

I agree.


On the other hand I find it pretty arrogant for a person (other than a mod or the topic's author) to declare that a topic should be closed and that nobody else should be allowed to contribute to it. If you think it's dead then you have every right not to contribute any further.

Geez :roll:

You know what? You're right.
That was pretty arrogant of me :embarrassed:

I retract my previous post and put this in it's place:

:deadhorse:

[Mr.FoodMonster]

This thread makes my head hurt.

Uh.... sorry about the fire?

[Leo_A]

I'd contribute 5 bucks for that.

[kevin_psx]

PLEASE CLICK HERE
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=860767#860767

[Sylentwulf]

You know what? You're right.
That was pretty arrogant of me :embarrassed:

I retract my previous post and put this in it's place:

:deadhorse:

:deadhorse:

[portnoyd]

This is the worst fucking thread ever. And I know I've said that before, but from now on I will say 'This thread blows, but this one will always be worse.'

[portnoyd]

And jesus christ, you actually talk down renter's insurance? You are beyond insane.

[Ed Oscuro]

PLEASE CLICK HERE
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=860767#860767
I want that click back.

What the hell are you thinking?

[kevin_psx]

And jesus christ, you actually talk down renter's insurance? You are beyond insane.

Look at the data

(1) Cost of renter's insurance over last 15+ years of apartment living - $2250.

(2) Value of stolen games = $900-1000.

(3) Saved over $1200 - it's cheaper to not buy insurance.

[Sylentwulf]

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