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Hypnotuba
12-02-2005, 03:48 PM
Did a quick check and didn't see a post, so I'm posting. A new shooter is being released in February (in Japan, of course.) The game is called Rajirugy (Radilgy?)

http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=432

You can already preorder at Play-Asia, but I'll probably wait until NCS has it available to preorder.

I put this in Classic Gaming, because the DC is pre-PS2, but, it's still modern to me. :)

rpepper9
12-02-2005, 03:59 PM
That looks really cool. Is that an official release, or more of a homebrew port of the arcade game? Will it actually count on any official game lists? If someone was trying to put together a complete DC collection would this be in it or not? I would assume that it is not authorized by Sega or what not.

Ed Oscuro
12-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Yup, was about to post this but couldn't find the source on gamefront.de (which is where I'd heard it was from). Good stuff!

Ed Oscuro
12-02-2005, 04:09 PM
That looks really cool. Is that an official release,
Of course it is! LOL

goatdan
12-02-2005, 04:12 PM
That looks really cool. Is that an official release, or more of a homebrew port of the arcade game? Will it actually count on any official game lists? If someone was trying to put together a complete DC collection would this be in it or not? I would assume that it is not authorized by Sega or what not.

In every way, it looks like this is a pressed-by-Sega Japanes release. Put it on whatever list you want. If you're looking for a complete US collection, I'd say this wouldn't be on it. If you're looking for a complete Japanese collection, I'd say it should be.

Secondary developers can't make ports of already released commercial games for other systems and sell them without the original developers consent (and usually payment). In that case, I would consider a licensed property to be a real release. If Quake came out for the Dreamcast, ported by another company to it with full permission of iD Software, wouldn't that be considered a 'full release'?

I'm surprised about this. The Naomi hardware has some better games on it than this one, so it's surprising it will see Dreamcast release.

jajaja
12-02-2005, 04:15 PM
goatdan: In a previously thread you said that Dreamcast wasnt longer supported.

CosmicMonkey
12-02-2005, 04:30 PM
goatdan: In a previously thread you said that Dreamcast wasnt longer supported.

Seems most of the world was under the impression that Trizeal was the last DC game. Glad we've all been proved wrong.

I've just put my preorder in over at Play-Asia.

Dreamcast: 1998 - 2006. Still alive and kicking.....

goatdan
12-02-2005, 04:37 PM
goatdan: In a previously thread you said that Dreamcast wasnt longer supported.

*sigh*

The Dreamcast is no longer *produced* by Sega. By that definition, you were saying it was cool to pirate games for it.

Games are a different deal. I wouldn't be surprised if some more Sega games were released in the near future ;) And if I wanted to, I could easily get our games done in this exact same fashion. But for various reasons, I don't.

The Dreamcast being dead is a belief it seems a lot of people hold. Look where this message was posted -- the Classic section of Digital Press.

goatdan
12-02-2005, 04:41 PM
goatdan: In a previously thread you said that Dreamcast wasnt longer supported.

Seems most of the world was under the impression that Trizeal was the last DC game. Glad we've all been proved wrong.

I've just put my preorder in over at Play-Asia.

Dreamcast: 1998 - 2006. Still alive and kicking.....

It will happen again and again throughout this year that the notion that there are no more games is proven wrong. Have you herd the good news about Cool Herders?

Cool Herders on GOAT Store Publishing (http://www.goatstore.com/publishing/index.php?content=games&game=5)

I hear it from a good source that Cool Herders may be headed to other platforms in the future depending on how this release does.

And that the little system that could may start getting some new ports and other goodies for it in the very near future.

The future of the Dreamcast isn't that bright, but as I once heard, "We love the fact that the legacy is being kept alive."

Whiskers the Wonder Cat
12-02-2005, 04:44 PM
Whoopie f'ing doo. Another shooting title most people won't give a damn about.

I wish they port KOF 2003, SNK Vs Capcom Chaos, Pulstar, Melty Blood, etc... over to the DC, then I will be actually interested.

But it's good to hear, the DC is still barely breathing and twitching.

robotriot
12-02-2005, 04:49 PM
You can find a couple of videos of the game here: http://www.mile-stone.co.jp/product/radirgy/radi_download.html

Doesn't look too good but I'll have to get it anyway =)

The pic on Gamefront.de that was mentioned is right here: http://www.gfdata.de/archiv11-2005-gamefront/radilgy.jpg

goatdan
12-02-2005, 04:50 PM
Whoopie f'ing doo. Another shooting title most people won't give a damn about.

You'd be surprised how well shooters sell for the Dreamcast. I think those of us involved with it aren't disillusioned enough to think a new game could take on Halo 3, but for DC sales, shooters really top the list.

Followed by, according to contacts in Asia who sell our games, dancing games (of which there are three for the 'Cast, so that is amazing to me) and then "other 2D stuff." Also according to them, the Asian market still demands some good 2D games, and that is why the Dreamcast is still kicking over there.

Whiskers the Wonder Cat
12-02-2005, 04:53 PM
Hey, I love 2-D myself. But could it please stop being damn shooting games? I still want KOF 2003 on the DC dammit!

goatdan
12-02-2005, 04:55 PM
Hey, I love 2-D myself. But could it please stop being damn shooting games? I still want KOF 2003 on the DC dammit!

Cool Herders isn't a shooter :)

Neither is the game that we'll be announcing next after Cool Herders. Well, that one will probably be announced shortly after the next one that will be announced... hmm... tomorrow sounds kinda nice :)

MegaDrive20XX
12-02-2005, 05:01 PM
Keep the Dream alive....Dreamcast that is...this is superb how faithful the Japanese are to Sega's system...

Hypnotuba
12-02-2005, 08:04 PM
The Dreamcast being dead is a belief it seems a lot of people hold. Look where this message was posted -- the Classic section of Digital Press.

Ah! :) Since I made the original post, let me be clear: the Dreamcast is definitely alive! I was only trying to go with the forum definition of classic, which, for now at least, is "before PlayStation 2."

No, the DC is definitely modern and viable, thanks in part to all the great work you've done with bringing new games out (I've got all 3 GOAT Store published games, and have preordered Cool Herders.)

I'm also one of those people who will order any shooter that comes out for Dreamcast, no matter what. :D They must know that when deciding to publish a new game. I suspect there's a lot of people who got Border Down, Ikaruga, Chaos Field, etc, who are all set to preorder this new game, and any future shooter.

Hypnotuba
12-02-2005, 08:07 PM
You can find a couple of videos of the game here: http://www.mile-stone.co.jp/product/radirgy/radi_download.html

Doesn't look too good but I'll have to get it anyway =)

LOL I hear that! I'll get any new Dreamcast shooter that may be released. Partly because I like shooters, partly because I like the Dreamcast.

roushimsx
12-02-2005, 08:16 PM
I've been praying for this news for a while now. Gotta support Milestone, if for not other reason than because they're ex-Compile guys and I pity the motherfucker that doesn't love Compile.

Thank god Trizeal won't be the last Dreamcast release...I'd hate to see the system go out with such a whimper. Now if only G-Rev would release another Dreamcast game...

and Whiskers, you think the Dreamcast has too many shmups but you want yet more 2d fighters for it? Does. Not. Compute. :P I kid because I love, though. The system needs all of the quality love it can get anymore...I don't care if it's a shmup or a fighting game as long as it's good (and an official title, as opposed to a homebrew)

edit - and lol @ all of the people arguing that this was a cell phone game back when Milestone first announced it and released low-res screenshots. I think the game looks awesome and has a sweet unique visual style. Throw them bullets this way, baby.

Julio III
12-02-2005, 09:47 PM
Awesome news. I love it that the Dreamcast can still get a release for it. I know all the latest games are all shmups though. It would be awesome if sega just released Puyo Fever 2 on it as well though - the first Fever was the last Sega released Dreamcast game it would be good if they just acknowledged it. Anyway, I'm gonna want to hear some people's opinions on this game before I buy it.

And goatdan, is that news of 2 new Dreamcast releases i hear??

goatdan
12-02-2005, 10:24 PM
Ah! :) Since I made the original post, let me be clear: the Dreamcast is definitely alive! I was only trying to go with the forum definition of classic, which, for now at least, is "before PlayStation 2."

Oh no, I know that. I just mean that it is generally accepted with most collectors that the Dreamcast's time is over.


and Whiskers, you think the Dreamcast has too many shmups but you want yet more 2d fighters for it? Does. Not. Compute. :P I kid because I love, though. The system needs all of the quality love it can get anymore...I don't care if it's a shmup or a fighting game as long as it's good (and an official title, as opposed to a homebrew)

I don't understand why you would think that "homebrew" titles wouldn't be any good.

I also find it really strange, and I think it is because I actually talk on message boards, that in the US our games aren't considered official releases, while in Asia they are considered the real deal. Even though we go through absolutely everything that a "real" release does, I think a lot of gamers in the US say, "Oh, that guy did it. Doesn't matter."

Ah well. I'm just happy that the Asian market supports us like they do.


And goatdan, is that news of 2 new Dreamcast releases i hear??

That's news of two Dreamcast games this month that you hear if I line everything up right.

Or news of at least four within the next three or so months. I could actually probably announce all four this month if we had a final title for two of them, but we're waiting on that.

Depending on how some negotiations I have going on turn out, I could have some really interesting "homebrew" licenses to announce in the next year. I think that if whatever those are come through, as my contact thinks is very possible, everyone will be extremely surprised.

kedawa
12-02-2005, 10:31 PM
The Dreamcast being dead is a belief it seems a lot of people hold. Look where this message was posted -- the Classic section of Digital Press.To be fair, Atari systems get the occasional new game, and there's that recently localized Genesis RPG, Beggar Prince, and those systems are considered long dead.
A trickle of new content for the DC doesn't make it a current and viable platform.

goatdan
12-02-2005, 10:54 PM
The Dreamcast being dead is a belief it seems a lot of people hold. Look where this message was posted -- the Classic section of Digital Press.To be fair, Atari systems get the occasional new game, and there's that recently localized Genesis RPG, Beggar Prince, and those systems are considered long dead.
A trickle of new content for the DC doesn't make it a current and viable platform.

A I just said, "Oh no, I know that. I just mean that it is generally accepted with most collectors that the Dreamcast's time is over." Although I don't necessarily equate homebrew games -- which in my opinion are games that are made by taking already produced parts from other games (cases, boxes, etc) and making them into new games -- to completely newly developed and pressed titles.

That having been said, I'd be surprised if anyone else on these boards owned as many new releases for the 2600, Lynx, Jaguar and Sega CD as I do.

The Dreamcast market is viable enough for what it is used for now - US places think it's over, but the Asian market still treats it very well.

Muscelli
12-02-2005, 11:00 PM
Dan, are the rumors true about goat games being released before '06?



PS, you never sent me my coasters :P

ill pay you shipping if u send me some, no really :D

goatdan
12-03-2005, 01:44 AM
Dan, are the rumors true about goat games being released before '06?

Before '06, no. Before '06 is over, definitely. Production schedules run about three weeks, so I'd need the game complete by like... today.

Production on that thing skidded to a halt because we needed to really work out the details of the main coding library because it will be re-applied to all future GOAT Games releases, so it needs to be "plug 'n play." That, and developing an encoding / decoding system like Maqiupai uses for all the different scoring.

The current plan is to have the game in my hands for final testing on February 13th, which not-so-coincidentally I made coincide with my birthday ;) I fully expect it will happen at that point. I'm looking to toss a few more games on it right now though, seeing as how two of the developers informed me they don't have the time to complete their games right now. I hope it changes, as one of them was probably my favorite -- a Gauntlet-style clone!

There will also be announced in the next three to six months, if plans go correctly, a 2D platformer, a fully 3D game, a in-depth point-and-click adventure, and a really amazing puzzler. And, if I can wrap up some licensing, some games that people will probably be very surprised about too ;) I don't want to get any hopes up though, because as I learned from trying to license some other stuff to port, the company may just want an absurd amount of money. Considering how they work with us though, I feel like at least some of what I'm after could work out :D


PS, you never sent me my coasters :P

ill pay you shipping if u send me some, no really :D

Ah crap. You pre-ordered Cool Herders, right? I'll try to remember to ship you some with that order. I'm glad you asked when you did -- I'm planning on tossing the remainder of those things this week.

Heh, I should keep some of those discs to use for coasters in my gameroom!

Ed Oscuro
12-03-2005, 01:50 AM
Whoopie f'ing doo. Another shooting title most people won't give a damn about.
What? The game will be awesome - it's been in arcades already, so you know it's got that special feel and polish to it.

Muscelli
12-03-2005, 12:00 PM
yeah, i think that you would have put it up for preorder if the rumors were true...

If this sidescroller you speak of is Alice Dreams, I will make a shrine for you, seriously...


One last thing, I gave you a trade offer for the game, i believe.. Anyway.. hold those coasters! I am going to PM you in a little bit

snes_collector
12-03-2005, 12:44 PM
goatdan: In a previously thread you said that Dreamcast wasnt longer supported.

Seems most of the world was under the impression that Trizeal was the last DC game. Glad we've all been proved wrong.

I've just put my preorder in over at Play-Asia.

Dreamcast: 1998 - 2006. Still alive and kicking.....

It will happen again and again throughout this year that the notion that there are no more games is proven wrong. Have you herd the good news about Cool Herders?

Cool Herders on GOAT Store Publishing (http://www.goatstore.com/publishing/index.php?content=games&game=5)

I hear it from a good source that Cool Herders may be headed to other platforms in the future depending on how this release does.

And that the little system that could may start getting some new ports and other goodies for it in the very near future.

The future of the Dreamcast isn't that bright, but as I once heard, "We love the fact that the legacy is being kept alive."

Wo, is that titles and the three others homebrews for a US DC? How much do they cost?

goatdan
12-03-2005, 03:44 PM
Wo, is that titles and the three others homebrews for a US DC? How much do they cost?

No, those titles aren't homebrews. They are pressed by one of the six US disc pressing plants... the same one that handled a lot of the US Dreamcast discs. They are developed by real development teams. And they are released by a real publisher, one who is on gaming industry committees thanks to the release of these titles, and who has been asked to speak at Game Developers Conferences on our business model.

We at one point called them as such, but doing so is basically wrong, as was pointed out to me by people in the industry. They consider them full releases. If not, I'd argue that the Tengen NES carts and the Accolade Genesis carts are "homebrews" as they were also programmed on reverse engineered systems and released by non-Sega / Nintendo companies.

We've done three releases before Cool Herders. Those are all $14.90. Cool Herders is $19.90. GOAT Games is TBD on price.

And that 2D platformer is not Alice Dreams, as we can't get the rights to that. But I'll lay this hint -- the game is already listed in the DP Guide. It came out to mixed reviews in the past -- some were GREAT, some were "eh". This will not just be a port, but an enhanced version of the original title.

snes_collector
12-03-2005, 04:12 PM
Wo, is that titles and the three others homebrews for a US DC? How much do they cost?

No, those titles aren't homebrews. They are pressed by one of the six US disc pressing plants... the same one that handled a lot of the US Dreamcast discs. They are developed by real development teams. And they are released by a real publisher, one who is on gaming industry committees thanks to the release of these titles, and who has been asked to speak at Game Developers Conferences on our business model.

We at one point called them as such, but doing so is basically wrong, as was pointed out to me by people in the industry. They consider them full releases. If not, I'd argue that the Tengen NES carts and the Accolade Genesis carts are "homebrews" as they were also programmed on reverse engineered systems and released by non-Sega / Nintendo companies.

We've done three releases before Cool Herders. Those are all $14.90. Cool Herders is $19.90. GOAT Games is TBD on price.

And that 2D platformer is not Alice Dreams, as we can't get the rights to that. But I'll lay this hint -- the game is already listed in the DP Guide. It came out to mixed reviews in the past -- some were GREAT, some were "eh". This will not just be a port, but an enhanced version of the original title.

Awesome. Some look really cool. Is there any chance for a 2D Fighter, or Beat 'em Up?

goatdan
12-03-2005, 04:15 PM
Awesome. Some look really cool. Is there any chance for a 2D Fighter, or Beat 'em Up?

For the one on one fighter, not at the moment that I know of. There was a 3D fighter started, and supposedly still in development, but I lost touch with the dev team on that. It's a ton of art to do for a game like that.

Same deal with a beat 'em up... although there is one of those pretty far along in development, but the team works on it kind of on and off, so I don't want to say too much about it to get hopes up. I'd give it a 25% chance of being competed at the moment...

If it is completed though, that's another game that just looks amazing right now. The animation in it easily rivals any other beat 'em up I've seen.

Leo_A
12-05-2005, 02:18 AM
I also find it really strange, and I think it is because I actually talk on message boards, that in the US our games aren't considered official releases, while in Asia they are considered the real deal. Even though we go through absolutely everything that a "real" release does, I think a lot of gamers in the US say, "Oh, that guy did it. Doesn't matter."

Your titles are licensed by Sega?

goatdan
12-05-2005, 11:51 AM
I also find it really strange, and I think it is because I actually talk on message boards, that in the US our games aren't considered official releases, while in Asia they are considered the real deal. Even though we go through absolutely everything that a "real" release does, I think a lot of gamers in the US say, "Oh, that guy did it. Doesn't matter."

Your titles are licensed by Sega?

Were Accolade's Genesis games licensed by Sega?

Were Tengen's NES games licensed by Nintendo?

Most collectors consider those to be "real" releases. If you consider those "homebrew", then yes, our games are as homebrew as the Tengen NES titles.

ubersaurus
12-05-2005, 01:01 PM
Whoopie f'ing doo. Another shooting title most people won't give a damn about.

I wish they port KOF 2003, SNK Vs Capcom Chaos, Pulstar, Melty Blood, etc... over to the DC, then I will be actually interested.

But it's good to hear, the DC is still barely breathing and twitching.
Now, why would SNK bother releasing SvC and 2k3 on the DC when they've already written PS2 ports-a system that is very popular in the US and Japan? As opposed to the Dreamcast, which is dead here, and was never overly popular in Japan that I can tell.

Melty Blood's arcade game runs on the NAOMI hardware, but again, if a home port was coming, I'd expect it to be on the PS2(I think the makers said as much before).

You're complaining about DC shooters, and then asked for Pulstar, a shooter?