What DOES complete mean to you?

[monantony]

Is a game "complete" w/o it's box? Does just a cart, manual, (and in this case overlay and envelope) seem 'complete' to you ?
Just curious
Tony

[Arkaign]

AFAIK, Complete always means that it does have the box, hence the word 'complete'. Ideally, that means even minutae like promotional pack-ins, etc. But I think the bare minimum for complete is :

Original box
Game
Any casing (sleeve, plastic case, whatever) that it came with
Instruction manual
Any other documents related to the game (map, guide, etc, as long as it came with the game in the first place)

I could be wrong though.

[monantony]

I would say something to the seller, but we have a less than stellar past....Not that we've bought from each other, I just think he's an ass....Still the pics are there and if someone wants to pay the $$ for 18 semi-complete vectrex games....

[punkoffgirl]

Why's this in off topic?
Moving...

[PapaStu]

Complete is by definition how it came when purchased new.

However some definitions do toss out those little ads and stuff inside the games as a necessary thing to be 'complete' and they consider the game, box and manual (and anything specific that the game would need to be played ie overlay or microphone) as complete.

[monantony]

Why's this in off topic?
Moving...

Well I wasnt sure where to put it, and I figured it WAS safe enough for OT
Tony :hmm:

[punkoffgirl]

Why's this in off topic?
Moving...

Well I wasnt sure where to put it, and I figured it WAS safe enough for OT
Tony :hmm:

It's gaming related. Off topic is for non-gaming posts.

[Haoie]

PS wise, it'll be the manual and the case [and obviously the CDs too], plus any other junk that may have come with it.

And they should all be in presentable order, semi near new or at least not in tatters.

PS CDs, always an issue with the stupid scuffs.

[Zadoc]

Is a game "complete" w/o it's box? Does just a cart, manual, (and in this case overlay and envelope) seem 'complete' to you ?
Just curious
Tony

Hellz motherfucking no.

A complete games is the game, the box and the manual.

As for a system, a complete system includes the box and original instructions.

eBay is full of "complete" game systems that are minus the original box.

[Austin]

Box, manual, and any special materials must be included. I'm not anal about things like registration cards.

[kevin_psx]

Case (or box), manual, disc.


Think it's funny some sellers say - "NEW game! Does not include manual or case." How can it be new? It's missing pieces!

[Jumpman Jr.]

Complete is everything that came with it when it was bought, except for the cellophane.... obviously.
I can't really see why there would be a debate about this, I'm quite sure everybody knows that complete means complete.

[Ze_ro]

I'm quite sure everybody knows that complete means complete.
So what about stuff like:
Registration cards
Little plastic bags that held the cartridge (I know the Jaguar and Gameboy Advance did this)
Ads and other promo material
Those health and safety warnings that Nintendo includes
Inner support pieces (like styrofoam supports for hardware, or the white cardboard things that Jaguar games used that slid in and out of the box)
Spine cards (for japanese games)
Plastic sleeves and cases (NES, SNES, Gameboy, Game Gear, TurboGrafx-16, etc)
Overlays (Jaguar, Intellivision, 5200, etc)
It's not always just a matter of box and manual. I usually try to keep all this stuff, although most of it I generally don't care about if I'm buying a "complete" game off eBay.

There are other matters that can complicate things too, like if someone has replaced the support tray for a CD based game (I've gotten a number of Dreamcast games where people have stuck a black tray in there instead of the original clear ones, which always annoys me)... and if you got a non-GH game that had a GH disc/cart, is that complete? NeoGeo MVS games have a whole bunch of crazy crap that came with them, in addition to the issues of matching serial numbers between the cartridge and box.

For the most part, it's not really worth caring about in my opinion. Just enjoy the games and forget about minutiea like this.

--Zero

[jajaja]

Case (or box), manual, disc.


Think it's funny some sellers say - "NEW game! Does not include manual or case." How can it be new? It's missing pieces!

Agree. I have also seen some sellers write like "Complete, but manual is missing". I guess when sellers use the word NEW and manual or box are missing they mean that the game media itself is like new. I wouldnt write NEW if manual or box was missing tho.

I have most NES games in my collection and most of them doesnt have ads and registrationcards, but I still considering them complete.
Altho, I dont sell NES games as complete if the styrofoam is missing. I just write that box and manual are included.

[johno590]

To me complete means box, manual, and game. If you have the extra inserts and plastic baggies, hey thats cool too.

[The Brown Eye]

Here's what I want when I buy a complete game:

Registration cards - don't care about, except for ones actually in the manual
Little plastic bags that held the cartridge (I know the Jaguar and Gameboy Advance did this) - don't care
Ads and other promo material - don't care
Those health and safety warnings that Nintendo includes - don't care
Inner support pieces (like styrofoam supports for hardware, or the white cardboard things that Jaguar games used that slid in and out of the box) - must have those
Spine cards (for japanese games) - must have those
Plastic sleeves and cases (NES, SNES, Gameboy, Game Gear, TurboGrafx-16, etc) must have those
Overlays (Jaguar, Intellivision, 5200, etc) - must have those



There are other matters that can complicate things too, like if someone has replaced the support tray for a CD based game (I've gotten a number of Dreamcast games where people have stuck a black tray in there instead of the original clear ones, which always annoys me)... and if you got a non-GH game that had a GH disc/cart, is that complete? NeoGeo MVS games have a whole bunch of crazy crap that came with them, in addition to the issues of matching serial numbers between the cartridge and box.

For the most part, it's not really worth caring about in my opinion. Just enjoy the games and forget about minutiea like this.

--Zero
Mismatched discs and cases are no good, and same with different trays in the game case. If there are serial numbers they must match. Of course, all of the above only applies if I want a complete copy of a game, which isn't too often these days. Generally if I buy something, I will play it for awhile and dump it if it sucks. If I really like the game then I'll hunt down a complete copy eventually, otherwise I'll just get rid of it.

[Arqueologia_Digital]

Good question. Complete means to me: box, manual & cart. In other cases, complete means box, manual, poster, flyers, ad & cart, it depends; but the basic items are the first free i´ve mentioned...

Matías

[briskbc]

To me a complete game has to have:

- Game
- Box
- Instructions
- Map (if applicable)
- Poster (if related to the game)

I really don't care about registration cards or whatever marketing crap may have come with the game. Until people start documenting the papers that came with NES games (for example) how are you going to know what hasn't been included?

[evil_genius]

Complete is by definition how it came when purchased new.

However some definitions do toss out those little ads and stuff inside the games as a necessary thing to be 'complete' and they consider the game, box and manual (and anything specific that the game would need to be played ie overlay or microphone) as complete.

What he said

[googlefest1]

to me complete is box and manual and anything else related to the game like maps and stuff -- all the extra paper stuff is extra to me -- almost impossible to find -- so this is what i settle for as complete

[darknut101]

I would say a complete game is the same thing as new except minus the sealed wrapper. It should have everything that came with it when it was new from the store.

I would consider a game complete when it includes:
-Game
-Case or Sleeve
-Box
-Manual
-Other documents (guide books, maps)
-Packing Material (styrofoam, etc)

[goatdan]

My definition is that it should come with the main game-specific parts that it came with when it was released. For instance, if the game was Alien Vs. Predator for the Jaguar, a complete box is a box with the white insert, a complete set of instructions are just the instructions for it, and the overlays must be included too.

The registration card, which does not at any point say that it is from Alien Vs. Predator -- that doesn't need to be included. It isn't game-specific, so unless you get new copies and mark down exactly what is in them, it is nearly impossible to figure out what came with what.

For the GOAT Store, we specifically mark down anything that came in a game that is game specific if we have it. A few more things that are a little odder to find that we specifically mark:

Seaman and Alien Front Online for the Dreamcast came in cardboard boxes with the microphone, as well as jewel cases with the games. The game is not "complete" without a microphone and paper box.

Mutant League Football for the Genesis came with MLF cards inside of it -- two, if I recall, randomly for two of the teams in the game. The game is not "complete" without two cards.

Quest for the Rings and Conquest of the World came with board games essentially, with cardboard peices and maps and lots of junk. It's all needed to be "complete."

Lunar for the Playstation came with a cloth map. Without that, it isn't "complete."

Zelda for the NES came with a sealed "Zelda Hints" booklet. If it doesn't have it, it isn't "complete," although of course it may not be sealed.

Same deal with everything else I can think of. If the item came with something in its box specific to that game -- even controllers -- then it needs that item to be labeled as "complete."

[PDorr3]

As long as it has the original box, cart, and instructions (all 3 must be originals) its complete in my book. If it came with a small mini guide or something and that is missing, I would still consider it complete.

[monantony]

So I take it then, at the most basic level a BOX is important then...? :) I figured it would be, and with a vectrex, also a overlay/envelope would be important as well..

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Ultimately it's up to the buyer to figure it out then
T

[tholly]

however it was purchased for a store brand new, minus the plastic wrapping

i have complete n-gage games, but no n-gage, so complete doesnt necessarily mean that you need to have everything needed to play it to be complete, just everything that that item came with in store

ie, steel battalion, everything in that big box (controller, game, docs) need to be there to be complete

ie, gcn, the case, inserts, disc, advertisments

[jonathonwillie]

complete to me means it has box and manual. and for older systems like snes, has holder and dust guard