Tomb Raider 1 - in a word - YUCK

[kevin_psx]

Tomb Raiders Last Revelation - the last PS1 game - is in my collection. Great puzzles. Beautiful graphics & sound.


Saw Tomb Raider 1 for cheap - expected more of the same. NOPE. The graphics & sound suck. Graphics = Terrible. 2D pictures floating in air to represent plants? Terrible. Sound = What sound? Heard more sound coming from an old Atari game!

Worst flaw of all - it's boring.

Sold.

[THATinkjar]

Just so I can brace myself... are you going to be starting a new thread for every new game you play?

[neuropolitique]

I had the same thing happen to me when I bought Combat for the 2600. I am supposed to believe those hunks of shit on the screen are tanks?! Give me a break. The tanks in Call of Duty are much more realistic. And they sound like tanks too! Piece of shit old games.

[Oobgarm]

Rather than make a ton of threads about different games, I'd suggest using the search feature and adding to existing threads. Remember to search the both game forums as well, since not all topics migrated to the modern forum. Anyway, this one belongs in the classic forum as it's PSX-based.

Tomb Raider 1 was not a bad game when you consider the time it was released. Not many PSX games have aged gracefully, but I think it was good for the time. I never really got into it much due to the stiff controls, but a lot of people I know LOVED that game.

[towerofsong]

I really enjoy Tomb Raider 1, amazing game for the time, has a great atmosphere, the t-rex is a classic gaming moment. Graphically it hasn't really stood the test of time...but what has from early psx games.

[scooterb23]

The first Tomb Raider game is my favorite of the series. THe second was ok, I could barely get myself interested in the last ones. I can still play the first Tomb Raider though, and quite enjoy the experience.

[YoshiM]

Tomb Raiders Last Revelation - the last PS1 game - is in my collection. Great puzzles. Beautiful graphics & sound.


Saw Tomb Raider 1 for cheap - expected more of the same. NOPE. The graphics & sound suck. Graphics = Terrible. 2D pictures floating in air to represent plants? Terrible. Sound = What sound? Heard more sound coming from an old Atari game!

Worst flaw of all - it's boring.

Sold.

Okay....so you played one of the sequels, which had been refined (graphically, aurally, etc.) over time. And you expected the same from the very first Tomb Raider?

See where I'm going? ;)

[BIGMIKE]

ahhhh, thinking back to xmas of 95 and the 6 months of pure gaming bliss i put into this game, i must say it has a special place in my heart. nothing like turning on the psx, seeing the logo and hearing that music then seeing Lovely Lara in the snow.........oh the memories. clearly changed gaming forever in my mind :D

[Austin]

Yeah, the game hasn't aged so well, but it's still my favorite Tomb Raider, also.

[sickdrummer420]

why put down a game that started so much

[fishsandwich]

It was amazing for its time. It's 10 years later and we're almost to the PS3 after having experienced major graphical refinements to games for the Dreamcast, PS2, X-Box, and Cube. What exactly did you expect from the an early 3-D game for the PSone? This thread is silly.

:roll:

[Daltone]

When it came out it was amazing. Sure it looks a bit grimy now though.. what exactly were you expecting? This is a game that has been sucessfully ported to the N-Gage after all. God knows why the wooden controls barely seem to have been changed through-out the series though. I just loaded it up, and, well to me at least it still plays an awful lot like the rest of the Tomb Raider games.

[jajaja]

When tomb raider first came out it was awesome :)
I've played tomb raider for Saturn maybe 1 year ago and that was horrible, slow etc. But I guess it was great for Saturn back then.

[roushimsx]

I loved it at the time. Played through it on both the PC and Saturn at the same time, really. PC for the sexy graphics and Saturn for the sexy controller. In hindsight, it really is a frustrating and boring game, but by the same token I think you'd have a hard time enjoying Prince of Persia's (SNES) similar gameplay anymore, too.

I do have high hopes for the new Tomb Raider since the original designer is back on board (IIRC he hasn't been involved in any of them since the first game, which is oddly enough the last one I enjoyed). It's also nice the Core got the boot. I wish those guys would just make more games like Project Eden (with the PC's co op play, of course).

[petewhitley]

The first Tomb Raider is universally considered the best of the series. The last few are universally considered the worst. Obviously, you're way off the mark here. I gotta quit clicking on this guy's threads ...

[kevin_psx]

Combat for the 2600. I am supposed to believe those hunks of shit on the screen are tanks?! The tanks in Call of Duty are much more realistic.
Not same thing. I was comparing PS1 games on the same machine. Like Combat 1 vs. Combat 2. The older game should look slightly worse - not as bad as "2D pictures of plants floating in air" - trashy.

And missed the part where I said TR-1 was boring. Even if beautiful - still boring.


are you going to be starting a new thread for every new game Just ones that surprise by how good or bad they are.


nothing like turning on the psx, seeing the logo and hearing that music then seeing Lovely Lara Noticed her chest is smaller. Actually a believable C-cup (versus FF cup)

[Jibbajaba]

Seriously. Seriously. Please stop creating so many threads. I can speak for a lot of the DP regulars when I say that you are annoying a bunch of us. That's not a flame, it's a tip. Just cool it and try contributing to the 9784520394820 threads that we already have here.

Chris

[kevin_psx]

can speak for a lot of the DP regulars when I say that you are annoying a bunch of us.

I talk too much?

[rpepper9]

I had the same thing happen to me when I bought Combat for the 2600. I am supposed to believe those hunks of shit on the screen are tanks?! Give me a break. The tanks in Call of Duty are much more realistic. And they sound like tanks too! Piece of shit old games.

LOL LOL LOL Ha ha ha! LOL LOL LOL

[Damaramu]

can speak for a lot of the DP regulars when I say that you are annoying a bunch of us.

I talk too much?

No...it's more like you have nothing to say. -_- :wink 2:

[Jibbajaba]

can speak for a lot of the DP regulars when I say that you are annoying a bunch of us.

I talk too much?

No, you just start an awful lot of threads. If we all started as many threads as you have been lately, nothing would stay on the front page for more than 5 minutes. Like I said, just try to contribute to existing threads more.

And for god sake's man, dumping on the graphical quality of Tomb Raider REALLY dates you. If you had played that game when it first came out you would have been impressed. You have to appreciate that game in it's proper context.

Chris

[Bluteg]

Seriously Kevin if you did not know that early 3D PSX games were horribly dated I think you need to find another forum.

I played Tomb Raider before it was released as a Demo on one of the early Playstation demo discs. Also played the full game at a friends house ages ago. I thought it was a terrible game personally. Just think it was a console pusher for Sony, now the latest games in the series are aimed at Nascar dads buying the game because it has boobs on the cover. ARG

[davepesc]

While I hated the controlls, like most people here, I thought the game took immersion to a whole new level. The graphics were a bit ugly, even then, but the setting was fantastic and some of the battles (T-Rex) were legendary.

If you find it boring, find a level skip code and jump ahead a bit. It gets pretty frantic at times.

[NE146]

Not to mention the other game that was anything like it in it's day... was Mario 64 :P

[kevin_psx]

Mario 64 - now that's a fun game. And the graphics look primitive but still good. No floating 2D pictures - uses true 3D plants - beautiful.
And for god sake's man, dumping on the graphical quality of Tomb Raider REALLY dates you. If you had played that game when it first came out you would have been impressed. You have to appreciate that game in it's proper context. in your opinion.

My opinion - think a true piece of art is timeless. I loved Dragon's Lair in 1984 but hate it now. It doesn't stand the test of time.

But Super Mario World does.

Tomb Raider 1 does not.

Tomb Raider 4 - LR does.

Imjho



P.S. find it funny when I praised Apocalypse & Colony Wars & Blowout - then it was okay for me to do so. But diss TR-1 - suddenly I'm a pariah. Is this a "not allowed to say anything negative" forum?

[exit]

I had Tomb Raider for my old pc and man that was a briliant game. From the large areas, challenging puzzles, intense fights and bizzare plot twists proved TR to be a classic for it's time.

Sure the graphics are out dated, but hell even some first run PS2 games are considerd outdated by people, that still doesn't mean there isn't a solid game under the "horrid graphics." Maybe you should try playing the PC version, since there was an option to enhance the graphics.

You call it boring, but I remember being quite happy when I wasn't being chased by wolves, followed by gun men, while I had to jump through traps and over a lava pit to get to safety just to find out I forgot something on the other side.

[kevin_psx]

This game was the one Ebay Seller petboys advertised as "mint" and "excellent condition"

but the case was destroyed - cd dusty & scratched

Mailed it back for a refund this morn.

[fishsandwich]

This game was the one Ebay Seller petboys advertised as "mint" and "excellent condition"

but the case was destroyed - cd dusty & scratched

Mailed it back for a refund this morn.

There's your problem. Had the disk been mint and the case in good condition then the graphics would have been much better and you would have loved the game.

You enjoy this, don't you?

Bizarre I say.

:/

[Kamino]

http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/krazykit/2004-03-22_104550_troll.gif

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

[icbrkr]

Maybe he should have downloaded it first to try it out? Then he wouldn't have wasted time and money on buying something he didn't like.

[Gamereviewgod]

I never enjoyed the series either. I can't even imagine dealing with it today. Those controls... my god, these are some of the clunkiest, slow moving, and frustrating movements ever.

"So, it's one step on that ledge, not two?"

[s1lence]

What sucked more, the game or the case??? O_O

[suckerpunch5]

I'm gonna echo a lot of the earlier sentiment. I still love this game. I was playing it a little just last week. Yeah, the graphics are dated, no denying that.

But when it came out, it was truly amazing. This game changed my mind about what a game could be. It was totally immersive. I can't believe you're dissing on the sound. The sound was awesome, and added so much to the game. The sound drew you in.

This was THE game that made my buy a PSX. I think that it does stand the test of time. If you can play it for a bit to get past the graphics, it becomes obvious what all the fuss was about back in '95.

k, nuff said

[kevin_psx]

Thanks. Enjoy being insulted. Thanks.
You earned it time and time again. You've been pissing off myself, jibbajabba, and many others since you started posting here. You're an idiot, a n00b, and a troll. I hope your apartment burns to the ground again and this time with you in it.
http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/krazykit/2004-03-22_104550_troll.gif PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

[crazyjackcsa]

You're just mad because Lara tried to burn down your place. Really though, The first and Second Tomb Raider are considered to be the best, and one you mentioned is on of the worst. But to each thier own.

On a side note, how old are you and is english your first language? I'm not normally a stickler for spelling and grammar, but I really have a hard time following your posts.

[kevin_psx]

curious - what's wrong with TR-4 Last Revelation? Thought it was great. Not a masterpiece but worth the 20 hours I spent on it.

[Jibbajaba]

Thanks. Enjoy being insulted. Thanks.
You earned it time and time again. You've been pissing off myself, jibbajabba, and many others since you started posting here. You're an idiot, a n00b, and a troll. I hope your apartment burns to the ground again and this time with you in it.
http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/krazykit/2004-03-22_104550_troll.gif PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL


Last edited by kevin_psx on Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:02 pm; edited 8 times in total


I liked this post better before you edited it. It gave me hope for a brighter future.

Chris

[slip81]

As far as consoles are concerned, TR was a revolutionary game. It took ideas that had already been around, like puzzle solving, and adventuring and brought them to the next level by making the world 3-D.

Just think about all the things you could do in that game. No longer did platforming mean moving from one side of the screen to another while jumping up and down. You could jump in all different directions, climb, shimmy, kick off walls, and run n' gun. And the puzzles could get pretty tricky at times. Sure there were other 3D games that looked a bit better like RE, but then again RE didn't have the freedom of movement that TR did.

It's also wrong to compare the graphics to something like SM64, since the 64 was a bit more powerfull, and at the time the PSX was brand new, people didn't know how to sqeeze power out of it, and a lot of that stuff had to be loaded off the CD while the game was in progress.

Now, sure, there are better games out, hell, better games came out withing a year of TR's release, but just because there are better games doesn't mean the older ones suck, especially since your argument is mainly focused on graphics.

Also for the record SM64 ain't all the great looking, but it's not supposed to be realistic looking so the jaggies and block people, and flat textures don't look out of place.

And yeah, the controlls suck, but what do you expect from a 3D game utilizing a D-pad?

[Promophile]

tomb raider has never been one of my favorites. I'd take a bright, cartoony platformer any day of the week (tomba, SM64, conkers, ect)

[whoisKeel]

curious - what's wrong with TR-4 Last Revelation? Thought it was great. Not a masterpiece but worth the 20 hours I spent on it.

Wasn't that the one where you could save anywhere you wanted to? That rids the game of any challenge.

I had the same problem with Oddworld 2, that you could save anywhere. Made it too easy (or maybe it was easy because I had already played the first one).

I dunno, the only Tomb Raider I ever played much was the 3rd one, and I remember loving it and being the hardest game I had ever played at the time (having never played the first 2).

[Diatribal Deity]

I think the point of the ridicule in this thread is to emphasize the need for quality over quantity. Your threads tend to be insulting to some because they lack perspective and proper research and seem too opinionated.

While we respect your opinion, your justifications in most cases lack real depth. Just as you should think before you speak, you should think before you post.

[kevin_psx]

I agree TR-1 was revolutionary for its time.

[petewhitley]

My opinion - think a true piece of art is timeless. I loved Dragon's Lair in 1984 but hate it now. It doesn't stand the test of time ...

Tomb Raider 1 does not.

Tomb Raider 4 - LR does.

LOL LOL LOL
Seriously, that's some funny shit man.

[Videogamerdaryll]

Tomb Raiders Last Revelation - the last PS1 game - is in my collection. Great puzzles. Beautiful graphics & sound.


Saw Tomb Raider 1 for cheap - expected more of the same. NOPE. The graphics & sound suck. Graphics = Terrible. 2D pictures floating in air to represent plants? Terrible. Sound = What sound? Heard more sound coming from an old Atari game!

Worst flaw of all - it's boring.

Sold.

One question though..How old are you..?

As I LOVE the first Tomb Raider more then any other...but I'm 37...The days of playing Tomb Raider on the saturn I'll never forget,it was the best...
Those were great times but a younger person may have not been around for them..(thus opinions on the game may vary)

[Lothars]

I really enjoyed the original tomb raider

it was really good, though the sequels were meh

but the original was great for it's time but like alot of people have said it doesn't age well.

[roushimsx]

Mario 64 - now that's a fun game. And the graphics look primitive but still good. No floating 2D pictures - uses true 3D plants

Perhaps you need to fire up Mario 64 again and view the trees in their full 2d sprite based glory.

[icbrkr]

Back when I was playing Pitfall for the Atari 2600, I was completely bummed that the trees weren't rendered with millions of polygons. They seemed flat and shapeless.

[Kamino]

Back when I was playing Pitfall for the Atari 2600, I was completely bummed that the trees weren't rendered with millions of polygons. They seemed flat and shapeless.
I know! and where was the advanced AI and full motion video in robot tank?

[Damaramu]

Pong didn't give me that in your face ping pong table experience. Yuck!

[kevin_psx]

Worst flaw of all - TR-1 is boring.

Robot Tank & Pong ain't boring.

[Bluteg]

Why are there no voice actors in the cutscenses in Combat. Maybe it was removed due to time constraints. Also Ms. Pac-Man for 2600 could have taken better advantage of anti-aliasing those dots are so pixelated they look like SQUARES. OH NOES THE HORROR!

[Daltone]

Worst flaw of all - TR-1 is boring.

Robot Tank & Pong ain't boring.

I found Tomb Raider - The Last Revelation a mind numbing chore on the Dreamcast. Actually, I found all the Tomb Raider games post #2 to come in varying flavours of naff-ness. People's opinions differ.

[Tron 2.0]

Sure while, Tomb Raider hasn't age well like with so many early 3d games.

I thought for what it was is a... good game regardless for some of it's flaws.

The down side to 'this the serise got, milked to death and had a very quick death.

Wich is one "problem i see too much today" in the current market :/

[kevin_psx]

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL You've been pissing off myself, jibbajabba, and many others since you started posting here. You're an idiot, a n00b, and a troll. I hope your apartment burns to the ground again and this time with you in it.
We (meaning multiple people) were making some mocking comments on irc about the TR-1 thread and i said, not even seriously, i'll pay $5 to the first person who makes that poll.

15 minutes later, i find out darkstraw took me seriously. Sigh. That, sir, was out of fucking line. I apologise both on the behalf of the idiocy of myself and mr.straw.

Apology accepted. It takes a lot of courage to say I'm sorry. You're a good man.

[zmweasel]

On a side note, how old are you and is english your first language? I'm not a normally a stickler for spelling and grammer, but I really have a hard time following your posts.

11th commandment: Thou shalt not slag another poster's grammar when thou dost ironically spelleth it "grammer."

-- Z.

[RJ]

I "missed out" on TR when it first came out- I can honestly say Ive never sat down & played any of them, current-gen or old school, save a couple demos of TR2 & 3. I really didnt care for them either.

Now, that being said, thee's a local Toys R Us where last time I visited, they had TR1, & IIRC either 2 or 3 in their bargain bin. The front of the TR1 was all faded, like it'd sat in direct sunlight for awhile. Something like that wouldnt deter me from buying a game if I knew I'd been missing out on a game that started a whole franchise/genre. I understand it was a fabulous game for its time, & at least worth trying, if not to only experience its humble beginnings.

If it's still there next time I go back, I'll probably buy it.

& there's really no way you can honestly compare the FIRST game in a series to (one of) its own sequels years later... :roll:

[crazyjackcsa]

On a side note, how old are you and is english your first language? I'm not a normally a stickler for spelling and grammer, but I really have a hard time following your posts.

11th commandment: Thou shalt not slag another poster's grammar when thou dost ironically spelleth it "grammer."

-- Z.
I'm not slagging, him. In fact I say that with this masterful line "I'm not normally a stickler for spelling and GRAMMAR" All I'm saying is in a lot of the posts (The fire one was the worst so far,) There are two half ideas pieced together.

T paraphrase Kevin's Post in the Infamous Apartment thread:

My Apartment building caught fire and my games got stolen just like downloaders of Roms.


Even this one could have been written far better:

Tomb Raiders Last Revelation - the last PS1 game - is in my collection. Great puzzles. Beautiful graphics & sound.


Saw Tomb Raider 1 for cheap - expected more of the same. NOPE. The graphics & sound suck. Graphics = Terrible. 2D pictures floating in air to represent plants? Terrible. Sound = What sound? Heard more sound coming from an old Atari game!

Worst flaw of all - it's boring.

Sold.

Given a little rewrite:

The game Tomb Raider the last Revelation, which was the last one to come out on the PS, had some great puzzles and graphics in my opinion. So When I saw a cheap Tomb Raider I picked it up. I think the graphics and sound in the original Tomb Raider have not aged well and I found the puzzles to be boring, so I sold it. What do you think of the series as a whole?

[segarocks30]

Although I didn't like the way Kevin said it was bad, I really don't like Tomb Raider. I don't know if it was my bad skills at Platformer-shooter games or the controls but I never could get past the 1st level. Damn it was too hard for me. By the way it is a freakin a PS1 launch title for god sakes, what do you think the graphics will look like buddy, Grand Turismo 4?

[kevin_psx]

Tomb Raiders Last Revelation - the last PS1 game - is in my collection. Great puzzles. Beautiful graphics & sound. Saw Tomb Raider 1 for cheap - expected more of the same. NOPE. The graphics & sound suck. Graphics = Terrible. 2D pictures floating in air to represent plants? Terrible. Sound = What sound? Heard more sound coming from an old Atari game!

Worst flaw of all - it's boring. Sold.



Given a little rewrite:

The game Tomb Raider the last Revelation, which was the last one to come out on the PS, had some great puzzles and graphics in my opinion. So When I saw a cheap Tomb Raider I picked it up. I think the graphics and sound in the original Tomb Raider have not aged well and I found the puzzles to be boring, so I sold it. What do you think of the series as a whole?



The forum Digital Press the Retrogaming Roundtable, which caters to old-school gaming, has some great resources and knowledge in my opinion. So when I saw it, I joined up. I think the forum and website is great for reliving my childhood memories, but perhaps the people are a little too nitpicky about spelling & grammar.

A forum is a place to chat & have fun & unwind from a long work day, and it's main purpose is for casual chatting, not a term paper to be torn apart & graded by an English professor. I ask for help in EBAY, or express an opinion about a game I like or dislike, and I get reemed up the ass as "stupid" or "annoying" or similar insults.



Mayhaps ye could express thine thoughts a little more - tactfully. May I not express my opinion w/o being called "stupid"? May I not ask for Ebay help w/o being called "a lousy seller who should quit ebay forever"???


Maybe I'm naive, and have not been exposed enough to the real world (having spent the last 5 years in an office cubicle), but I see no reason to mentally assault other people. One can disagree & yet still act friendly at the same time. One can also choose not to read a post if one does not want to.

Imho.

k

Post-Script - This was my second message posted today, and I think I will stop there else I might be labled "spammer".


Post-Post-Script - Some of ye had a good argument regarding myself posting too many new topics. You were right, so I followed your advice & started using the search function. "Yes folks, he can be taught" - Genie.

[Haoie]

It was noted that the reason that the franchise is no longer going strong is that too little has changed, and on top of that other significantly cuter girls have superceded Lara.

Did she get added to my list of washed up VG icons? I think she did.

[segarocks30]

Tomb Raiders Last Revelation - the last PS1 game - is in my collection. Great puzzles. Beautiful graphics & sound. Saw Tomb Raider 1 for cheap - expected more of the same. NOPE. The graphics & sound suck. Graphics = Terrible. 2D pictures floating in air to represent plants? Terrible. Sound = What sound? Heard more sound coming from an old Atari game!

Worst flaw of all - it's boring. Sold.



Given a little rewrite:

The game Tomb Raider the last Revelation, which was the last one to come out on the PS, had some great puzzles and graphics in my opinion. So When I saw a cheap Tomb Raider I picked it up. I think the graphics and sound in the original Tomb Raider have not aged well and I found the puzzles to be boring, so I sold it. What do you think of the series as a whole?



The forum Digital Press the Retrogaming Roundtable, which caters to old-school gaming, has some great resources and knowledge in my opinion. So when I saw it, I joined up. I think the forum and website is great for reliving my childhood memories, but perhaps the people are a little too nitpicky about spelling & grammar.


A forum is a place to chat & have fun & unwind from a long work day, and it's main purpose is for casual chatting, not a term paper to be torn apart & graded by an English professor.

I ask for help in EBAY, or express an opinion about a game I like or dislike, and I get reemed up the ass as "stupid" or "annoying" or similar insults, so I will likely leave. Obviously, no one wants me here.



Or, if ye do want me here, mayhaps ye could express thine thoughts a little more - tactfully. May I not express my opinion w/o being called "stupid"? May I not ask for Ebay help w/o being called "a lousy seller who should quit ebay forever"???


Maybe I'm naive, and have not been exposed enough to the real world (having spent the last 5 years in an office cubicle), but I see no reason to mentally assault other people. One can disagree & yet still act friendly at the same time. One can also choose not to read a post if one does not want to.

Imho.

k

Post-Script - This was my second message posted today, and I think I will stop there else I might be labled "spammer".


Post-Post-Script - Some of ye had a good argument regarding myself posting too many new topics. You were right, so I followed your advice & started using the search function. "Yes folks, he can be taught" - Genie. But you see, you shouldn't be posting opinionated-hate threads about certain games or posting as soon as a new game comes out (I believe someone said that already so if they did, sorry.) That's ok though, you can be taught, I learned. But any way back on topic, I really think Tomb Raider isn't good because the controls are too stiff for me and it has a high difficulty level for me anyways. Like when I try to move sometimes, the movement fells clumsy and awkward. I drown alot because of these controls. The wolves hunt me down too. I don't care about graphics in games, for me it's all about gameplay and the quality of the game. I have to agree though, the graphics were great for its time. In my opinion (Here come the disagreements),Tomb Raider is really for hardcore gamers who can deal with difficulty and clumsy controls. And one last thing, saying one of its sequels is better (Again another opinion) is kind of weird. The 4th one sucked even worse to me. Sorry for the long rant :D .

[s1lence]

Tomb Raider is really for hardcore gamers who can deal with difficulty and clumsy controls. And one last thing, saying one of its sequels is better (Again another opinion) is kind of weird. The 4th one sucked even worse to me. Sorry for the long rant :D .

Most hardcoregamers avoid the latter TR games because the controls are so poor. Sure they may look better, but after II they all play like shit.

[evildead2099]

I had the same thing happen to me when I bought Combat for the 2600. I am supposed to believe those hunks of shit on the screen are tanks?! Give me a break. The tanks in Call of Duty are much more realistic. And they sound like tanks too! Piece of shit old games.

LOL LOL LOL

[ghostangelofcky]

I had the same thing happen to me when I bought Combat for the 2600. I am supposed to believe those hunks of shit on the screen are tanks?! Give me a break. The tanks in Call of Duty are much more realistic. And they sound like tanks too! Piece of shit old games.

LOL LOL LOL



O_O

[crazyjackcsa]

Hey Kevin, that last post of yours, did you write that or yank it from somewhere? The reason I ask is because It was well written and had an opinion that was supported. (I'm not trying to be a tool here, I mean it) If you were to write like that the whole time, hey that would be great! I'd stick up for you for damn sure! I agree it isn't a term paper. And spelling and grammar mistakes don't really bother me, It was the lack of a cohesive thought followed by reasons.

[hydr0x]

not want to read

one word

troll

LOL

[Eternal Champion]

But you see, you shouldn't be posting opinionated-hate threads about certain games or posting as soon as a new game comes out (I believe someone said that already so if they did, sorry.)
Why not? Since when was Tomb Raider a sacred cow? Or anything else? This is hypocritical and I think the rude responses to Kevin in this thread are way out of line.

[Saabmeister]

But you see, you shouldn't be posting opinionated-hate threads about certain games or posting as soon as a new game comes out (I believe someone said that already so if they did, sorry.)
Why not? Since when was Tomb Raider a sacred cow? Or anything else? This is hypocritical and I think the rude responses to Kevin in this thread are way out of line.

How is it hypocritical? He started a pointless thread comparing a game released in 1996 to a game released in 1999, and then states that basically everything about the earlier one sucks in comparison. Well no shit! He is being a f**king troll, lonely and desparate for attention, so he slams a popular game, and then acts like he didn't do anything.

He could have written a review. He could have started a thread that said something to the effect of "I thought Tomb Raider was a terrible game, whereas the final PS1 game in the series was incredible. What do you guys think?" He could have done anything other than starting a pointless thread.

[evildead2099]

I had the same thing happen to me when I bought Combat for the 2600. I am supposed to believe those hunks of shit on the screen are tanks?! Give me a break. The tanks in Call of Duty are much more realistic. And they sound like tanks too! Piece of shit old games.

LOL LOL LOL



O_O

You can't comprehend humour, and/or my reaction to it...? :hmm:

[kevin_psx]

He started a pointless thread comparing a game released in 1996 to a game released in 1999, and then states that basically everything about the earlier one sucks in comparison. Well no shit! He is being a f**king troll.


Which is worse?

- A person who says an inanimate thing is "yuck"?

- Or a person who attacks & insults another human being with feelings that can be hurt, and he compares that person to a small, ugly creature?



My offense was far less sinful than your offense.

k

[Gigadeath]

Robot Tank & Pong ain't boring.

Pong? Not boring?

:hmm:

[evildead2099]

He started a pointless thread comparing a game released in 1996 to a game released in 1999, and then states that basically everything about the earlier one sucks in comparison. Well no shit! He is being a f**king troll.


Which is worse?

- A person who says an inanimate thing is "yuck"?

- Or a person who attacks & insults another human being with feelings that can be hurt, and he compares that person to a small, ugly creature?

k

You've insulted the intelligence of the roundtable by starting this thread! :roll:

[Mayo]

WTF are you talking about, Tomb Raider had brilliant game play, would be nice to see that game updated like Metal Gear was on the Gamecube.

[Sylentwulf]

My opinion - think a true piece of art is timeless. I loved Dragon's Lair in 1984 but hate it now. It doesn't stand the test of time ...

Tomb Raider 1 does not.

Tomb Raider 4 - LR does.

LOL LOL LOL
Seriously, that's some funny shit man.

Damn right, my god. DRAGONS LAIR doesn't stand the friggin test of time? Tomb raider 1 is not as good as the god awful sequels it spewed forth?

Maybe you need graphical insurance in case your ps ever catches on fire and someone steals your uber updated graphics from it while you're away.

[sabre2922]

Kevin in all respect I would like to suggest that you put a few more of these posts on your blog hell thats what I do since I know many gamers on here dont give a shit about my Silent Hill games :roll:

But seriously you do come across as a decent guy and fellow gamer if a a bit ynger or less experienced as far as video games go than many of us here and about those that have flamed you a few times just ignore them and enjoy the forum as much as possible, we all get flamed at one time or another-I have many times sometimes deservedly sometimes not- but you gotta take it all with a grain of salt so to speak.

My point is that you can learn alot from this board thankx to the fact that this isnt Gamefaqs or the godforsaken Gamespot boards were you can tell that 90% of the gamers there started out on PSX or even PS2 @_@ its actually funny to feed the videogame knowledge challenged on those boards from time though and get the kids all in a frenzy about why Final Fantasy 7 and X,GTA and Halo arent the end all-be all of videogaming :angel:

So in conclusion try to envelop more of the vast knowledge base of videogame history that this board and 95% of its members represent and dont sweat the small stuff my friend.

One more thing; I always thought that Tomb Raider 2 was the pinnacle (if you could call it that) of the TR series and I have played everyone of them released for both the PSone and Dreamcast-2 of my friends were TR freaks :)
I remember playing the first on both the PSX and Saturn and no matter how much I loved the Saturn I have to say that even back then the Saturn version looked bad when compared to the PSX ver.
Come to think of it I kinda miss all those old Tomb Raider games.

So far Tomb Raider Legends looks good to me and Im actually looking forward to playing this one on PS2.