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usk84flip
12-08-2005, 10:50 PM
Hey everybody,

Its been a while since I've posted... trying to finish school while working too many hours. I've got my entire nes collection up on ebay. Its every US released game... spread the word if you want... check it out... almost just interested to see what the page hit count goes to.... ~Matt

http://cgi.ebay.com/Complete-Nintendo-NES-US-Collection-781-Games-More_W0QQitemZ8241574452QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

Mattiekrome
12-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Oh, Oh, Me First, Me First... But I failed to meet the reserve :D

Awesome! Never seen a complete NES US release collection on eBay before. Good luck with this one, I'm sure it will be a biggie :eek 2:

mb7241
12-08-2005, 11:42 PM
First of all, I'd like to congratulate you on completing such a collection. Secondly, I would make a bid on it (and a four-figure one, at that), but I don't have the money... Thirdly, and I guess it's not too early to speculate... I say this goes for about $10,500-$11,500 when it's all done...what do the rest of you guys think?

Jumpman Jr.
12-09-2005, 02:30 PM
First of all, I'd like to congratulate you on completing such a collection. Secondly, I would make a bid on it (and a four-figure one, at that), but I don't have the money... Thirdly, and I guess it's not too early to speculate... I say this goes for about $7200-$7600 when it's all done...what do the rest of you guys think?

I'd say it breaks 10 grand. Isn't that around the price that neswoman sold her not-complete NES collection for?

usk84flip
12-09-2005, 02:58 PM
Yah, I think hers was at like 11 grand and her reserve still wasn't met, missing the heart of the collection... SE, panesians, I think she was also missing myriad 6 in 1 and like 5 others. I wonder how many complete nes collections are out there... got to be quite a few... any guesses? ~Matt

portnoyd
12-09-2005, 03:09 PM
I'd say there are at least 10 on these boards alone. :)

jajaja
12-09-2005, 03:22 PM
I'd say there are at least 10 on these boards alone. :)

With the panesians? I've seen someone here saying that they dont count the panesians because they were originaly from Taiwan.

Anyway, good luck with the auction. Going to be fun to see how much it goes for :)

wrldstrman
12-09-2005, 05:13 PM
The price of the rarest nes games are still pretty high but the other 90 percent of the games have seemed to really gone down in sell price.Theres probally 50 percent of the games that go for less than a couple dollars loose .Ive listed some semi rare games like swamp thing,l empereur,ulitmate soccer and didnt even get a bid.I would like to see the auction go for mega bucks.It is well worth buying everything at once to get all the games because you will end up saving a ton of money in the end but probally not to many people can easily throw 7 to 10 thousands dollars at a auction....As far as complete goes I dont think there is such a thing as complete. that would mean every nes item ever made and a lot of one of a kind items are distrubited throughout many collections....anyway to me a complete nes collection will be when I get the instructions(MISSING 80) and 250 boxes for my games..thats all the ones that were avalible in general retail stores for purschase.

Trade-N-Games
12-09-2005, 06:48 PM
That is a very nice collection! I will end up selling mine next year about this time also but I hope to have all of them boxed by then. I am just about done with 650 boxed complete and 100 loose. I have many of the rares but still need the rarest games boxed.

Jumpman Jr.
12-09-2005, 09:14 PM
I'd say there are at least 10 on these boards alone. :)

With the panesians? I've seen someone here saying that they dont count the panesians because they were originaly from Taiwan.

Anyway, good luck with the auction. Going to be fun to see how much it goes for :)

I'd say most people consider the Panesians part of the complete set. Its the Sachens that nobody considers part of it.

The-Bavis
12-09-2005, 11:14 PM
Since nobody asked yet: why are you selling it?

BTW - I first saw a link to your auction on cheapassgamer, so the word is spreading. I headed right over to see who was selling and found your thread.

Six Switch
12-10-2005, 02:41 AM
jesus that is crazy.

i'd say it will go for at least 12 grand.

usk84flip
12-10-2005, 02:57 AM
When I first started collecting, I didn't WANT to consider the panesians... haha.. but after a while on the scene, I realized they are pretty much considered part of it now, they snuck in somehow. I agree on the Sachens though.... never heard of those being used as a complete collection.

I am selling my collection mainly to get money saved up to buy a place for me and my girl. I've saved up money from work, sold some other stuff,... and now this is the next big addition to the downpayment. I hate to see it go.... What will I be able to brag about now.?... we'll see... i bet I won't last many years without wanting to get it back..

Thanks for the awesome feedback guys... Now what I'm not looking forward to doing is boxing it up... I wish someone would just come out and pick it up... probably be not much more than shipping is gonna be .. ~Matt

Bronty-2
12-10-2005, 01:29 PM
I def. think the panesians should be included... so they were made in taiwan, so what? The first party games were made in japan - so using where they were made as a basis on which to differentiate is crazy.

The point is the panesians were for sale in the US back in the day. All that matters as far as I'm concerned.

Good luck with the sale; very nice set.

DreamTR
12-10-2005, 01:33 PM
I've seen Panesians sold here, and I've seen Sachen games sold here back in the day.

There is no difference, really...for some reason everyone includes one company's set of games, but not another company's set.

Personally, I don't think either should be included, but whatever.

People don't think a specific US SNES game with an E Rating and US parts number and manual should be included as part of the US set, so what do I know???

Insaneclown
12-10-2005, 09:13 PM
Wow...nice NES collection. I am impressed. That must of taken you years to complete...I mean years. Now you have to give it up which sucks. Make sure you dont regret this...because it will haunt you for life. Believe me...they always come back.

Bronty-2
12-11-2005, 12:04 AM
I've seen Panesians sold here, and I've seen Sachen games sold here back in the day.

There is no difference, really...for some reason everyone includes one company's set of games, but not another company's set.

Personally, I don't think either should be included, but whatever.

People don't think a specific US SNES game with an E Rating and US parts number and manual should be included as part of the US set, so what do I know???

I assume you mean konami soccer?

Interesting about the sachens, I didn't realize they were sold here back in the day also. Well whatever, I'd rather have lame porn game than just plain lame games anyway :D

Buyatari
12-11-2005, 10:45 AM
A complete collection is easy to define.


A collection of every game YOU want to have. Once you have them all you can say its complete based on that. However, for eBay purposes you should explain your definition as it will be different than others.

DreamTR
12-11-2005, 11:20 AM
Bronty:

I mean International Superstar Soccer Deluxe for the SNES.

I think Konami Hyper Soccer is a European NES game.

Player-2
12-12-2005, 12:58 AM
I always wonder why no one ever mentions the racermate NES cart for the computrainer. I would not call my set complete (and it is) without counting that cart. It sold well in this country..and is just as valid as miracle piano, duck hunt, the alladdin carts, stack up, or world class track meet...it just needs its peripheral. And I also would argue that the sachens, the test carts, and the NWC's are also needed for a complete collection....but I understand the opposite opinion. I don't understand why NES collectors dismiss the racermate cart.

Bronty-2
12-12-2005, 01:44 AM
Bronty:

I mean International Superstar Soccer Deluxe for the SNES.

I think Konami Hyper Soccer is a European NES game.

We're talking about the same game.... I just couldn't remember what ISS stood for so I called it "konami soccer" :)

Bronty-2
12-12-2005, 01:45 AM
I always wonder why no one ever mentions the racermate NES cart for the computrainer. I would not call my set complete (and it is) without counting that cart. It sold well in this country..and is just as valid as miracle piano, duck hunt, the alladdin carts, stack up, or world class track meet...it just needs its peripheral. And I also would argue that the sachens, the test carts, and the NWC's are also needed for a complete collection....but I understand the opposite opinion. I don't understand why NES collectors dismiss the racermate cart.

Sounds like a valid point... may just be due to a lack of knowledge about the cart. I don't know much about it... I assume it was similar to lifebike for snes? care to elaborate?

usk84flip
12-12-2005, 03:21 AM
yeah, please let us know more about it... cost... etc... I have never even heard of it until now... thats so nuts... might have picked it up... get in shape.. haha.. ~Matt

Buyatari
12-12-2005, 10:48 AM
Can't be complete without this one.

http://www.nesworld.com/proto/wally-2b.jpg

Player-2
12-12-2005, 10:53 AM
computrainer is a system that lets you mount any bike you own on a stand, and peddle your way through different race courses...it puts drag on the wheel when going up hill, changes scenery on your TV as you progress (these are real raceway scenes for pros to practice courses). Most run on PC and are available new still.. But for a while it could also be run with a NES and the racermate cartridge. The "set" came with everything....heart monitor, bike mount, cabling, and the cart. Do an ebay search for computrainer. Then pretend it is exactly the same kit, but with an NES cart instead of PC software.
It was an NES cart made and sold (liscensed I think) in this country...but people just don't seem to include it for complete collections.

DreamTR
12-12-2005, 11:03 AM
The "Racermate Challenge" cart is unlicensed. It sells alone for around $175 or so.

It's not on the same level as Caltron and Myriad, but it's the same type of thinking.

It was sold here, but you need the Racermate bike in order to use it.

One valid point is made, if anyone is including the Panesians, you have to include this game as well, as it's FAR MORE of a US title that any of the Panesian crap.

Bronty-2
12-12-2005, 11:05 AM
Can't be complete without this one.

http://www.nesworld.com/proto/wally-2b.jpg

that's a standard part of the set, I think most people would agree.

DreamTR
12-12-2005, 11:24 AM
Bronty, that's a label variation. I think that game was originally done by AVE, and then the rights were given to the company that produced Shockwave, so what he has is a label variation/prototype label version of the game.

Player-2
12-12-2005, 04:14 PM
very cool wally bear...I am very envious!!

burnt toast
12-12-2005, 04:35 PM
erm, forgive my ignorance of all things nes, but what is the keyboard pictured in the auction?

im guessing its not a fully programmable digital synthesizer with a nes chip, although that would be the ultimate :D

jajaja
12-12-2005, 04:42 PM
erm, forgive my ignorance of all things nes, but what is the keyboard pictured in the auction?

im guessing its not a fully programmable digital synthesizer with a nes chip, although that would be the ultimate :D

Check this:

http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/peripherals/miraclepiano.html

portnoyd
12-12-2005, 05:58 PM
Can't be complete without this one.

http://www.nesworld.com/proto/wally-2b.jpg

Got it.

EllsinoreOutlaw
12-12-2005, 07:12 PM
I wonder if it even worth this $6,600.00?

Bronty-2
12-13-2005, 01:18 AM
(re wally bear)

Yeah but who cares? If we're going to talk about label and box variations there are a MILLION of them.

I mean, if you want to apply that type of thinking then only a complete set of completes (or factory sealed) with all possible box (and therefore label) variations would be 'truly complete'.

After all, there are all kinds of slight differences in boxes, manuals, etc. ALL of the black boxes exist in at least two box variations each, and almost all exist in more. Up to five or six versions... are you going to count them all?

Buyatari
12-13-2005, 02:16 AM
(re wally bear)

Yeah but who cares? If we're going to talk about label and box variations there are a MILLION of them.

When its 2 different companies then its not a variation but a seperate game. Even if the code it identical. ie Sears vs Atari carts on the Atari 2600.

Qixmaster
12-13-2005, 02:28 AM
(re wally bear)

Yeah but who cares? If we're going to talk about label and box variations there are a MILLION of them.

When its 2 different companies then its not a variation but a seperate game. Even if the code it identical. ie Sears vs Atari carts on the Atari 2600.

exactly, just like we all include myriad and caltron different, eventhough they are more the same then these two carts will ever be. Same with impossible mission II.

btw, that wally bear is rare as fuck. wish i had one.

then i guess we gotta also include the nifty pyrimad test variation cart that i've seen pop up a few times on ebay (god only knows why i never bid on it).

also, the racermate challange two cart... two different looking carts... a tengen looking version and then their own unique design. plus, the unique design version has two variations (upside down label and rightside up :) )
The tengen looking cart was meant to be played on the toaster NES while the unique cart is meant to be played on top loaders only.

I do not think (and i have talked with some people who had bought the racermate cartridge and set up when it came out), that there actually exists a racermate challenge 1 cart. i think this is just an expansion of the racermate challange version that was on PC...

possibly the rarest released nintendo game IMHO... and i'm sure others will agree.

and here comes the beginning of what could be a price jump in these bad boys...
-Josh
-Josh

Qixmaster
12-13-2005, 02:29 AM
I wonder if it even worth this $6,600.00?

hahaha.
yes

DreamTR
12-13-2005, 11:45 AM
Wally Bear is the same game, it's not even a released product, it was more of a prototype than anything else.

Myriad is just a slapped on sticker on the cart, and an orginal box/manual IIRC.

Ah whatever. Racermate is Racermate, there should only be one of those...everything is just one wacky variation.

Player-2
12-13-2005, 04:04 PM
variations....god help us!!! But wally bear grey is still cool. And I do not have one. not cool.

Bronty-2
12-13-2005, 07:15 PM
[quote="DreamTR"]Wally Bear is the same game, it's not even a released product, it was more of a prototype than anything else.

quote]

that's my thoughts on it exactly.

usk84flip
12-13-2005, 08:23 PM
Oh my god... I started doing the variation thing, and was gonna slit my wrist just with the color dreams black and blue variations... the first release nes cart variations.. the rerelease ones... and the "rumored" variations that I couldn't continue... I just wanted their to be an end somewhere, so I stopped at having most of the major label variations.

~Matt

Bronty-2
12-13-2005, 09:35 PM
and that's before you start with the box variations... there's two different dk math boxes, for example (code on upper left back, and no code versions).

dave2236
12-13-2005, 10:44 PM
yeah, variations suck, I think I have found 3 or 4 mike tysons punch outs

plus tons of games have black seals and white seals.

Adam, that Wally Bear is awesome, I'm gonna have to try and track one down for my collection

leonk
12-14-2005, 12:02 AM
The "Racermate Challenge" cart is unlicensed. It sells alone for around $175 or so.

It's not on the same level as Caltron and Myriad, but it's the same type of thinking.

It was sold here, but you need the Racermate bike in order to use it.

One valid point is made, if anyone is including the Panesians, you have to include this game as well, as it's FAR MORE of a US title that any of the Panesian crap.

That's a great point!!! If miracle piano is considered a released title, than why not racemate challenge!??

Buyatari
12-14-2005, 12:26 AM
Wally Bear is the same game, it's not even a released product, it was more of a prototype than anything else.

Yeah yeah yeah . Thats because you don't have one. LOL

More than one of these have poped up. Limited retail issue is more plausable than a prototype with a full label.

DreamTR
12-14-2005, 11:22 AM
Wally Bear was definitely not limited retail for this one. That would require an original box and manual from AVE, yes? Unlicensed game with early label, and EPROMS inside? Sounds like Sachen style to me ;P I've had an opportunity to buy one of these, but why? I'm not a label junkie for unlicensed prototypes =(

Miracle Piano is a LICENSED NES title, Racermate does not seem to be.