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Ed Oscuro
12-11-2005, 06:46 PM
Both are legendary examples by developer TAD (an acronym for something or other) of one of my favorite genres, the Dynamite Duke/G.I. Joe style shooter. While it does lack the scrolling screen of Taito's Operation Wolf from a year earlier, Cabal nevertheless seems more impressive technically than Operation Wolf thanks to some really complex stages in which you can destroy nearly everything. It introduced the legendary level-end dance, which is worth the price of admission all by itself.

The controls are simple but potentially awkward: your character and aimpoint are both tied to the joystick, so when you move the joystick your character runs and the aimpoint moves as well, unless you've got the fire button held down in which case he'll stay put and sweep the area with fire. It's antiquated today, but still can make for an intriguing game.

Cabal set itself apart from the crowd by ditching scrolling screens for a single screen with destructible elements and lots and lots of graphics. Tanks drive by, helicopters strafe your position, and jets divebomb you. It doesn't look as good as Dynamite Duke (in my opinion - still quite good), but (outside cutscenes) it looks better than Operation Wolf.

One of the things that I feel was most improved in the sequel were the destructible elements. They simply look better going down, as some stuff in Cabal simply had a thin layer of gray cracks added before they were collapsed, and many walls simply collapsed straight downwards.

Great efforts both. They added a character to watch out for, and in this way this type of game is closer to the modern first person shooter than most gun games.

Other standouts in the "player + gun" game:

Alligator Hunt (obscure, presumably rare Spanish release from '95)
Dynamite Duke (awesome Cabal style game with brawler elements)
GI Joe (by Konami; the aimpoint is fixed on the horizontal axis to your player's location - quite handy)
Operation Wolf (Taito's game potentially inspired TAD's release; while it's a standard scrolling lightgun game it was one of the first to make a big splash on the market, being ported everywhere from the Sinclair Spectrum to, eventually, the FM Towns).

drewbrim
12-11-2005, 08:40 PM
I voted for Cabal (obviously, since I casted the first vote) although I sadly have never played (or heard of) blood bros. The vote for Cabal was honest. My brother and I used to donate our allowance in the form of quarters to this game at the arcade. One of us would be "rolling" across the screen to get behind a wall, all while yelling "cover me!" Good times. And yes, the stage clear dance into the horizon was priceless.

klausien
12-11-2005, 09:27 PM
The game that finally got this style absolutely right is Sin and Punishment for the N64. There is a learning curve with the controls, but they are definitely the best suited to this type of game ever conceived.

I also want to give a shout out to Wild Guns on the SNES. Truly fantastic and worth every penny.

And of course, there is the neo-classic Nam '75 on the Neo Geo. Still love that game.

Damaramu
12-11-2005, 09:31 PM
Hmm...I loved Cabal. Friends and I had a blast playing that game at a local grocery store's "arcade". Never played Blood Bros. x_x

Would The Super Spy on the Neo Geo fit into this category as well? I remember that one being fun.

Sothy
12-12-2005, 12:15 AM
Ive put in hundreds of hours on cabal at the arcade growing up.

10 bucks worth of quarters id play some of the other stuff but probably 8 of that would go in cabal.


Didnt play a game that much Till TMNT arcade game or Mortal Kombat II came in.


Playing Cabal on Mame is pretty fun too with mouse support.



I always loved the idea someone bothered to put a frikkin attack Submarine in a little Countryside pond for some reason.

Lord Contaminous
12-12-2005, 01:28 AM
Would The Super Spy on the Neo Geo fit into this category as well? I remember that one being fun.

I don't think so, I look at Super Spy as a mix of Doom and Punch Out.

Arqueologia_Digital
12-12-2005, 03:06 AM
No way!!!, Cabal all my life!!! excellent action game, i remember when i had played it, it was in a Casino when i was a teenager (yes, i played it about 10 years or more since their launch)...

Matías

smork
12-12-2005, 04:17 AM
I've always been a Cabal man myself -- actually, i've never played either anywhere but an arcade, so it's been, oh, 5 years since i've played either (I once found an arcade in Lima, Peru that had Metal Slug 2, Blood Brothers, and Heavy Barrel. Now Heavy Barrel isn't great, but still fun -- the others my friend and I played for many, many hours that day. Good times.)

When I was in college I worked at a movie theater. We had a 4 slot MVS in the lobby, and a decent arcade across the street. Pretty much every day after work we'd go over to the arcade and play Cabal. Our Cabal didn't have a joystick, it had a trackball. Which was more standard? IIRC Blood Brothers had a trackball standard, too....

Ed Oscuro
12-12-2005, 09:31 AM
The game that finally got this style absolutely right is Sin and Punishment for the N64. There is a learning curve with the controls, but they are definitely the best suited to this type of game ever conceived.

I also want to give a shout out to Wild Guns on the SNES. Truly fantastic and worth every penny.

And of course, there is the neo-classic Nam '75 on the Neo Geo. Still love that game.
Yeah, great music too! Showed it to some friends recently (just the emulated version, although I picked up the carton box copy from JGN...great stuff!) and they were blown away. LOL It's not the prettiest or most intense Neo title, but it's still fun to play.

Wild Guns is great (hadn't tried it out until now, though on a hunch I got ahold of an...ahem..."evaluation version..." o_O). Too bad it's another hard-to-find title from Natsume. On the plus side, that's at least 100% more great music from their composers for me to enjoy! Wonder if somebody's made a SPC archive...

The Super Spy...I find that one more enjoyable than most. Cheesy good fun. It doesn't really fit the description, but considering that it doesn't get talked about much we can make room for it.

Another game that's a bit like Super Spy and a bit like the bonus round from Shinobi (as the DP listing says), is Shien's Revenge/Shien the Blade Chaser for the SNES/SFC. Great looking title and I imagine if you had the SNES mouse it's even more playable.

Lord Contaminous
12-14-2005, 02:53 PM
ED Oscuro: Yeah there's a SPC Archive for Wild Guns

I got the final battle music on CD and minidisc.