Xbox Kakuto Chojin recalled?

[Buyatari]

I heard that this title was being recalled and was even removed from the XBOX.com website.

Adam

[Six Switch]

Well the game sucks,bt I guess I'll haveto get one now. :hmm:


EDIT:They have the guide for $6 at Ebgames,but no game.Gamestop.com has the game for $40.Maybe I should get it...... :hmm: @_@

[josekortez]

My question is, if Chojin sucked so bad, why is Microsoft still promoting Sneakers?

This kind of thing is like what the government did in Orwell's novel, 1984.

[Achika]

My question is, if Chojin sucked so bad, why is Microsoft still promoting Sneakers?

This kind of thing is like what the government did in Orwell's novel, 1984.

Because with Sneakers, they only have to worry about losing it to one retailer, KC however, is carried by many.

Good concept, horrible execution....

[digitalpress]

Shhhhhh!

This is a *tip* in my Tips & Tricks column for the April issue!

I'd recommend jumping on these, but don't go nuts - The $39.99 Gamestop price is pretty steep, hunt around if you can. Even used is good at this point. I don't know much about the recall but my sources tell me this is in fact the case.

Got some more info from an Asian friend. See our main news page for details!

[maxlords]

Word is it was recalled for questionable relogious content. Sounds like they're really pulling it so they can drive the price up and sell their overstock on eBay since it's been "recalled" and wasn't selling on shelves! :) Think a company would do that? I know it's gonna jump on eBay, but I can't bring myself to purchase it. Blech.

[digitalpress]

That's funny, because the fact that it's recalled for questonable religious content (again, see our front page) only makes me want to see it MORE. And though I may not be exactly "normal", I have a pretty good finger on the pulse of the collecting community. If I'm a little intrigued, I'm willing to bet that it's intriguing.

And you know what that means.

Bling. Bling.

[Kid Fenris]

Does anyone know what this "questionable religious content" is? Rumor has it that the potentially offensive material consists of several quotes from the Koran mixed into a music track, but I find it hard to believe that a company would pull a game from shelves over that.

You know, I actually wanted to try out Kakuto, seeing as how I'm a fan of Dream Factory's PSX fighters. (Yes, I even like the much-criticized Ehrgeiz). Maybe I should seek out a copy while I still can.

[hamburgler]

I better hurry to get the game before it is too late.

[kainemaxwell]

They previewd the game in the latest GI issues also I know that...

[congobongo]

Lucky enough to have recieved a copy of this game for free. I played through the whole thing in about 20mins. It's SO easy. Nice to hear it may at least be a rarity. It does look nice though. Some of the visuals are sweet. The whole package appears a little incomplete though.

[digitalpress]

Lucky enough to have recieved a copy of this game for free. I played through the whole thing in about 20mins. It's SO easy. Nice to hear it may at least be a rarity. It does look nice though. Some of the visuals are sweet. The whole package appears a little incomplete though.

So, did you see these questionable religious overtones that got the game pulled?

[Oobgarm]

New Penny Arcade comic pokes fun at this debacle.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3

Pretty sure the game doesn't say that, but it made me laugh heartily.

EDIT:
Just contacted Gamestop and there was no emails from corporate mandating a recall yet. I'm sure all of that will change come Monday.

Just FYI.

[dsullo]

amazon has the game new for 29.99

[Atari7800]

:D I have a lovely story to tell!

I just read this morning that the X-Box fighting game Kakuto Chojin is being pulled from shelves due to questionable religious content. I don't have an X-Box, but I have a friend who does and I can't resist the pull of a possible rarity.

I stopped by Perimeter Mall in Atlanta on my way home from an errand and went to the Electronics Boutique. I asked if the female employee (the only one in the store) if they had Kakuto Chojin. She said they might have it in used... it was there priced at $40. I took it to the counter, along with "The Thing" game for my friend, priced at $20.

She rang up the Kakuto Chojin and said "uh..oh." I said "what?" expecting her to say that she couldn't sell it. She said "This is weird. It only costs 1 cent. I've never seen that happen before. I said "so..." She said "It must be your lucky day!" and rang up both games. Grand total with tax: $21.40

I immediatley went upstairs to the Gameworld or whatever it is (affiliated with EB) and asked about the game. He said it was a "1 cent return" game and that they had been instructed to throw all copies away because "it was a terrible game". I offered him $20 for a copy. He said he had three that he could not sell. I offered him $80 for all three. He stupidly called his manager on the phone, who promptly refused my offer. Oh, well. I didn't tell him why it was recalled or that I had a 1 cent game in my bag from their sister store in the mall. Didn't want to get the great/awful girl in trouble.

Thanks, uninformed EB employee! It was nice of you to be sweet and uncaring and not even question a game marked $40 being sold for 1 cent. You made my day! :D

[MankeyMan]

Apparently the questionable religious content was the phrase

"Jesus is a queer,"

found somewhere within the game.

[udisi]

MY local Taget has about 6 copoies this morning for $29.99...I picked one up
might pick one up....More FYI, xbox.com doesn't have the game listed anymore in it's game list, so it looks like they're trying to make it look like this game never existed.....the news has also hit ebay, as last night a copy went for $70, another for $52, and $35 BIN's that wouldn't have sold in a million years, are gone....looks like the real deal....if it is a hoax, a bounch of people are gonna get taken, if not, the is not much time to pick it up cheap.

[ManekiNeko]

MankeyMan: That was actually a joke on Penny Arcade. I've heard that the "slur" in question was the use of the Koran in one of the endings. It's pretty moronic, really. Nobody offered to pull Xenogears from store shelves, yet when Muslims suffer the slighest indignity we're supposed to do everything possible to appease them? Fuck that. When you start treating your own women with respect, maybe you'll get a little yourself. Until then, don't come to us with your whining.

JR

[Tritoch]

To all of the "big guys" around here (you know who you are), where exactly did you find out that it was going to be recalled before MS made the official announcement?

Also, I don't know if I'd rely on Target if I were you. I just got back from the store, and the employees there KNEW that the game had been recalled. The guy I talked to indicated that their HQ had them all pulled back, which means you probably wouldn't be able to buy it online either.

[Evil E]

It is true it has been recalled--I just bought a brand new copy of it on Half.com for $29.99!! I would highly recommend people to buy it while you can!!

[josekortez]

This morning, I went to Sears and they had a bunch, since no one shops for games there and they love to sell stuff to the bare walls, but they were all $49.

Then, I went to Game Stop, and the manager thought I was joking, but they had a used copy in pristine condition for $30 - only a few motes of dust on that baby.

Guy at KB Toys thought I was joking, too.

Got to EB, the manager had 3 on the desk, but he refused to sell it. He even pulled the pre-owned!

So after a trade-in at Game Stop, I got the used one for $24.

Hope this is worth all the trouble...

Anybody even know how to correctly pronounce the title?

[Kid Fenris]

MankeyMan: That was actually a joke on Penny Arcade. I've heard that the "slur" in question was the use of the Koran in one of the endings. It's pretty moronic, really. Nobody offered to pull Xenogears from store shelves, yet when Muslims suffer the slighest indignity we're supposed to do everything possible to appease them? Fuck that. When you start treating your own women with respect, maybe you'll get a little yourself. Until then, don't come to us with your whining.

JR

I don't remember anyone ever asking for Xenogears, Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics, or Castlevania: Symphony of the Night to be pulled from shelves, and to be honest, I've heard no outcry over Kakuto Chojin.

Perhaps it was just an angry letter to Microsoft that prompted the recall. Or maybe it was some cautious thinking on the part of an MS executive. I'm not going to make up my mind about this until I see some reliable reports. If you can find a story that describes this "religious content" in Kakuto Chojin, please post a link to it.

And hey, it's nice of you to knock an entire religion, Neko. Why not take a shot at those crazy cow-loving, bride-burning Hindus while you're at it?

[maxlords]

Hmmmm...still on shelves at Wal-mart here for $69.94 + 15% tax. Don't think it's worth THAT do you?

[kainemaxwell]

Here's IGN's review:
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/376/376423p1.html

And here's Metacritic's review summery from the major magazines:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox/kakutochojin
(I love how Gaming Age compares Kakuto Chojin to "Shaq Fu" and "Rise of the Robots".)

[Tom61]

Hmm... Makes you wonder if it was pulled for other reasons, like it being a boot disc capable of loading homebrew or pirate stuff. Anybody have a more "advanced" X-Box they can poke around the disc with? Might be some interesting util. on the disc.

If you have the game and a regular X-Box try hitting eject while the game is running, if it doesn't go back to the dashboard, this disc could come in handy. :)

Heh, probably wishfull thinking. :/

[Six Switch]

So does anyone know what the "questionable religious overtones: are?I'm not gonna open mine. :hmm: 8-)

[ShinobiMan]

I actually got the game a long time ago for 20 bucks... I was hoping it'd be a good fighter. While it's presentation is overall pretty lame, the game is not as bad as some critics claim. Perhaps I'm being to nice, but I didn't hate it that much at all. I never noticed any religous content... maybe something about indians, I'm not sure, I'd have to play it again.

[jonjandran]

Hmm... Makes you wonder if it was pulled for other reasons, like it being a boot disc capable of loading homebrew or pirate stuff. Anybody have a more "advanced" X-Box they can poke around the disc with? Might be some interesting util. on the disc.

If you have the game and a regular X-Box try hitting eject while the game is running, if it doesn't go back to the dashboard, this disc could come in handy. :)

Heh, probably wishfull thinking. :/

Not a Boot disc. Goes back to the dashboard when ejected.

[den68]

this is all I could find about a recall

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2910399,00.html

and HA HA, check this out

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3006896872&category=27186

get it while it's cheap he says! $67.50? I did,earlier this evening at Media Play for less than half of that.

[NESCollector75]

Would it be worth it to pick this game up used for $25-30US?

[zot wildstarr]

I have located copies at 2 stores, Circuit City and Target. CC was 49.99 and Target was listed at 49.99, but I had the clerk check the price for me......and it was actually 29.99. Needless to say, I am now current owner of said title.

LOL

[Evil E]

this is all I could find about a recall

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2910399,00.html

and HA HA, check this out

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3006896872&category=27186

get it while it's cheap he says! $67.50? I did,earlier this evening at Media Play for less than half of that.

I got it for $29.99 on half.com--however I do think it is gonna become a rarity title, and the worth of it should go up considerably

[ManekiNeko]

"And hey, it's nice of you to knock an entire religion, Neko. Why not take a shot at those crazy cow-loving, bride-burning Hindus while you're at it?"

I already criticized that religion earlier, actually. Don't you read the Battlezone?
All seriousness aside, I have a hard time supporting anyone who would get this bent out of shape over the use of a handful of Koran quotes. Christianity has taken a lot more punishment than this by the media, and nobody demands that they receive any respect. Even if they did, they wouldn't get it. I maintain that there's an enormous double standard here.

JR

[Kid Fenris]

"And hey, it's nice of you to knock an entire religion, Neko. Why not take a shot at those crazy cow-loving, bride-burning Hindus while you're at it?"

I already criticized that religion earlier, actually. Don't you read the Battlezone?

Yes, and like any comments I find there, I took yours with a grain of salt.


"All seriousness aside, I have a hard time supporting anyone who would get this bent out of shape over the use of a handful of Koran quotes. Christianity has taken a lot more punishment than this by the media, and nobody demands that they receive any respect. Even if they did, they wouldn't get it. I maintain that there's an enormous double standard here.

JR

I don't necessarily disagree with you on this, but it's one thing to decry the preferential treatment given to one religion, and another to imply that Muslims are misogynists. Your post over at Atari Age didn't carry the latter connotation, so why include it here?

By the way, I'm not sure how well the recall is going. A survey of my local stores revealed that Meijer, Toys R' Us, Suncoast, and Wal-Mart still had the game priced at $49.99. Best Buy, EB, and Target didn't carry it, and only the EB employees confirmed that they had been told to pull the game. If this is a recall, it seems like a slow one.

[Evil E]

[

By the way, I'm not sure how well the recall is going. A survey of my local stores revealed that Meijer, Toys R' Us, Suncoast, and Wal-Mart still had the game priced at $49.99. Best Buy, EB, and Target didn't carry it, and only the EB employees confirmed that they had been told to pull the game. If this is a recall, it seems like a slow one.[/quote]


Wait till this week. I think come Monday, and the rest of the week the stores will have it pulled!! Just my thoughts--I could be wrong. I bought a copy just in case. The pull to bye what should be a rarity title drew me in!!

[Chunky]

local TRU said that any recalls, unless it's saftey are issued monday or tuesday with next weeks circluar and whatever other notes, sales, promotions for that week.

[Six Switch]

I wonder how many they shipped to start with. :hmm:

[den68]

okay I played this game for about 2 hours last night trying to figure out what the "religious content issue" might have been. the only religious reference I could find came from a character named "Asad" from Somalia. after winning rounds or matched the characters spew a little blurb.

Asad says:

"Defeating me is against Gods will."

"One step closer to enlightenment."

"Your evil stops here."

"Is there no way out of this?" or something like that.


there may be more but that's all I heard. doesn't seem too offensive.

oh well.

the game itself is pretty good, kind of easy but I was just playing in normal mode. the graphics are very good, kind of dark and all the characters look sweaty. survival mode is fun, you fight 3 guys at the same time and advance once you beat 10. for $29 bucks I dug it, if it gets valuable because of the recal than woo hoo.

[brandver3]

I could care less how rare it will be, i hated it. It like DBZ, so it's super rare, the game isn't that good, so i could care less about getting one.

Thats jusy my two cents. I think the twenty dollars i got back from returning it was much better spent on the Japanese buffet i went o afterwards.

Horray all you can eat lobster!

[jonjandran]

I could care less how rare it will be, i hated it. It like DBZ, so it's super rare, the game isn't that good, so i could care less about getting one.

Thats jusy my two cents. I think the twenty dollars i got back from returning it was much better spent on the Japanese buffet i went o afterwards.

Horray all you can eat lobster!

Normally i would agree with you , but lately I've been seeing $$$$$$$ signs . So i bought 5 copies for e-bay in a couple of months. :P

[kainemaxwell]

I did not see a one of these at my EBX, EB or Babagges today.

[Six Switch]

Got mine in the mail today,now to sit back and let it collect value. :)

[Kid Fenris]

Well, I bit the bullet and picked up a copy for thirty bucks at Target, though I wonder how valuable Kakuto Chojin will be if a) nearly every collector has a copy of it, and b) it's regarded as an awful game by fighting fans, thus ensuring that no one will want it for its artistic merit.

But then, I wouldn't say it's all that awful. Kakuto Chojin isn't "the worst game ever made" so much as it is just an average, boring title. Image Ehrgeiz without weapons, decent character design, large arenas, or any real reason to keep playing, and you'll have a good idea of what KC is like. It's kind of fun in the generically visceral sense that all fighting games have, but everything's just too bland to entertain.

Oddly enough, I'm connected to this in a seventh-degree sort of way. When I visited Japan during my college years, one of the neighbors of my host family told me that her son worked for Dream Factory, now known as "Dream Publishing." She actually gave me Tobal No. 2 when I headed back to America, so I almost felt as though I should buy Kakuto Chojin to return the favor and realign my karma or whatever.

[ManekiNeko]

"I don't necessarily disagree with you on this, but it's one thing to decry the preferential treatment given to one religion, and another to imply that Muslims are misogynists."

I don't want to be a jerk about this, since I have nothing against you and I don't want this thread to wind up in the Battlezone. However, it's silly to pretend that the oppression of women is anything but a huge issue in the Muslim community. Yes, some Muslims give women the respect they deserve, but many- in fact, I would go so far as to say a majority of Muslims- do deprive females of their rights. Women are forced to stay inside, must wear bhurkas and veils even in the brutal desert heat, and can be beaten by their husbands if they feel they deserve it.
Whether or not this is a correct interpretation of Islam is open to debate, but the fact remains that most Muslim nations and many, many Muslims subject the fairer sex to unfair treatment. If you need examples, hundreds of them are a Google search away.

JR

[jonjandran]

I also don't want this to go to the Battlezone. But........
I've lived in the South my whole life and there is more wife , girlfriend, women abuse going on than anyone cares to admit. I personally have witnessed it hundreds of times. I'm not saying that makes what is happening in Muslim countries alright , but i would say it is happening in our own country all too much. Just having a law saying it is wrong doesn't mean it's not going to happen.
We have to re-adjust our thinking as a world not just as a country or religion. Only then will problems like this be solved.

[Kid Fenris]

"I don't necessarily disagree with you on this, but it's one thing to decry the preferential treatment given to one religion, and another to imply that Muslims are misogynists."

I don't want to be a jerk about this, since I have nothing against you and I don't want this thread to wind up in the Battlezone. However, it's silly to pretend that the oppression of women is anything but a huge issue in the Muslim community. Yes, some Muslims give women the respect they deserve, but many- in fact, I would go so far as to say a majority of Muslims- do deprive females of their rights. Women are forced to stay inside, must wear bhurkas and veils even in the brutal desert heat, and can be beaten by their husbands if they feel they deserve it.
Whether or not this is a correct interpretation of Islam is open to debate, but the fact remains that most Muslim nations and many, many Muslims subject the fairer sex to unfair treatment. If you need examples, hundreds of them are a Google search away.

JR

Again, I don't see what this has to do with the Kakuto Chojin recall, as it's doubtful that any Muslim objections to the game (if they existed) originated in one of the countries where Islam-related misogyny is widely in practice.

And I'm not denying that the oppression of women is a problem in Islam. I'm just objecting to your terse mention of the matter in a thread where it has little relevance to the topic at hand. You were blowing off some steam, I understand, but your remarks were hardly justified, given the lack of any evidence of a Muslim outcry over Kakuto Chojin.

[nesman85]

i got a sealed one for 35.19 total from half.com

[Starcade]

It sure took people awile to find this "religious error", but I guess that's how it is with games that apparently suck.....so friday, when I get paid, instead of going out and gettting SOCOM, I will be snagging me a copy of this game off of amazon!

[Evil E]

I received my copy of KC yesterday. I want to open it and play it, but should I? Would that greatly reduce the value if it becomes a rarity?? I bought the game, and now want to check it out!! :o

[salt peanuts]

I'm a little confused in that if this game was recalled and not supposed to be sold anymore, but was supposed to be returned to Microsoft or destroyed, how come almost every online retailer still has these up for sale??!? How can they become rare if they have been recalled but retailers are just ignoring it and still selling it? .....someone explain this to me please....Some places like amazon I noticed even jacked the price back up to $49.....

[zot wildstarr]

:hmm:

I was wondering about the current status of Kakuto Chojin? As of today, I can still find it at Best Buy, Target and Circuit City. My local EB games still has it pulled and insists it is a "recalled" game. Is this a sad and twisted ploy by Microsoft to jack up sales on a sub-par game? Can Alfred get there in time to rescue the caped crusaders? (Oops, sorry for the space junk floating around the thought perimeter)

Is anyone else having trouble locating Kakuto ?

[Evil E]

All I know is that I bought it, and am waiting for the final word on it!! It is interesting that if it is "recalled" that retail stores would STILL have copies!!! Hmmmmmm.........

[congobongo]

I know someone that works for MS indirectly and they had to ship back a box of them to be "destroyed"

[digitalpress]

Hem and haw over this all you want. The recall is "official". Whether or not certain stores choose to abide by this is irrelevant - the game will not be produced any more, and it's legend will surpass it's numbers in any regard.

Bottom line: if you can get it for less than $30, get it.

[Evil E]

Hem and haw over this all you want. The recall is "official". Whether or not certain stores choose to abide by this is irrelevant - the game will not be produced any more, and it's legend will surpass it's numbers in any regard.

Bottom line: if you can get it for less than $30, get it.


I did get it!! I want to open it and play it, but if I do, will that drastically reduce the "rarity value" of the game?? It seems to me that most "rare" titles for games have been both opened and played, and they still sell at a high price!?

[digitalpress]

I did get it!! I want to open it and play it, but if I do, will that drastically reduce the "rarity value" of the game?? It seems to me that most "rare" titles for games have been both opened and played, and they still sell at a high price!?

See, the game isn't new enough to be one of those ultra-rare titles, and it's apparent that plenty were produced just judging from the sheer number of people who have seen it at multiple locations around the country. That said, the game will likely reduce drastically in an "opened" state. I was able to get a used one on Half.com for $14.90 moments after I heard about the recall, and here's the good news - you're not missing anything by not opening it! I didn't think it's as terrible as some people have said but it's not exactly a "keeper", either.

[josekortez]

I saw Chojin at my local Target yesterday, and the game was still there for $50. This situation is a joke! I know someone's gonna challenge me, but i have a feeling that this is a debacle! Don't try to stop me! I know I'm right!

[digitalpress]

$50 !

At that price they don't have to worry about a recall, they'll never sell it anyway! LOL

[Tritoch]

I guess I was wrong about Target.com - the one I ordered off of Target for $29.99 arrived the other day. I saw one at the other Target in town too...but at $49.99 also!

The other Target still claims that they were pulled though.

[samuraiX]

Gamestop is defecting them all out starting yesterday. Just so you all are on the lookout! =]

[Kid Fenris]

If you see Kakuto Chojin at Target with a $50 price tag, ask a clerk to scan it for you. I did, and it rung up at thirty bucks. Often at large department stores, games aren't relabeled when they drop in price.

[Retsudo]

just got mine off of ebay. I dont even have an xbox. went the BIN..got it for $38.00 :D

[orrimarrko]

ATTENTION ALL WHO CARE ABOUT THIS GAME:

Just picked up two copies from my Gamestop for $.01 each! That is correct - I didn't have to give them the two cents, they ended up being free, but it's true.

I have an extra one that I will trade with someone if they are dying to get it.

That is all.

[jonjandran]

ATTENTION ALL WHO CARE ABOUT THIS GAME:

Just picked up two copies from my Gamestop for $.01 each! That is correct - I didn't have to give them the two cents, they ended up being free, but it's true.

I have an extra one that I will trade with someone if they are dying to get it.

That is all.

Were these new or used ?

[samuraiX]

That's what they call "zeroing out" at GameStop (they do it with new strat guides, cards, and very occasionally, games). I called in and the stores in the area have just been told to defect them out back to the corporate office. I'm waiting to hear back if these are actually zeroed out yet or not. So far no official word.

[salt peanuts]

Now will Gamestop employees really give this game to you for a penny if you go there and try to purchase it? I know the copies at my EB that were out, they came up one cent in the computer, but the employee refused to sell me any...and I have a feeling the employees at the Gamestop close to me won't just hand me a game for a penny if it rings up that cheap....so any Gamestop employees here know the policy for this so when I go in to buy one, and it rings up a penny, I have the right info. to argue with?? :)

[Blackjax]

It looks like Microsoft finally found a way to get the sales up on this turd! All the collectors run out and buy it LOL

:band:

[digitalpress]

It looks like Microsoft finally found a way to get the sales up on this turd! All the collectors run out and buy it LOL

:band:

LOL I suppose if they want to go all out for the 50 or 60 of us that even care, let 'em! In fact, I'd like to have similar "hoaxes" like this, that get us a few games, sucky or not, with a little bit of a collector story to them more OFTEN.

Long live the legend of Kakuto Chojin!

[Evil E]

It looks like Microsoft finally found a way to get the sales up on this turd! All the collectors run out and buy it LOL

:band:

LOL I suppose if they want to go all out for the 50 or 60 of us that even care, let 'em! In fact, I'd like to have similar "hoaxes" like this, that get us a few games, sucky or not, with a little bit of a collector story to them more OFTEN.

Long live the legend of Kakuto Chojin!

Well, you never know about these things, you never, never know!

[samuraiX]

Update. They went to a penny and GameStop seemingly can do what they want with them. Thun now I have 3 =]
EB stores we requested to DESTROY them so poof... gone

Try your local GameStop/Babbages/FuncoLand not everyone collects really crappy games so they may in fact give them to you! Give it a try, it might turn out to be worth your effort.

[orrimarrko]

I suppose like always, it depends on whether your local Gamestop guys are dicks or not, but I have made friends with all of the staff for the 4 shops that we have in Austin.

Like I said, I got 2 copies on Friday for nothing, but they were proced at $.01.

If you have cool guys working, then they will be cool - and give you one if you ask them for it. Otherwise, get that middle finger ready...