#1 problem with collecting NES games? NES sellers !!

[Buyatari]

Look at this load of bullshit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8242814236&sspagename=ADME:L:AAQ:US:1

Item: NINTENDO NES RARE COLLECTION SEALED GAMES, ZELDA SNES (8242814236)
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(crunchyblack)(mtg) is the seller.



i had a local offer yesterday morning. i was selling my items locally in my town. if he flakes i guess your my second. sorry

[Kejoriv]

That sucks. All you can do is report him to Ebay.

[Buyatari]

some of the items were sold so i can't

Buyatari@aol.com wrote:
You didn't end the auction and it ended on its own. So its a legally binding contract. Tell the local bidder you are sorry he is a day too late.

[Darth Sensei]

What a tool.

[scooby105]

make sure to file a seller non-performance complaint. at the least, it'll get him kicked off ebay.

[^DevIancE]

Heh, I was watching that auction. Some eBay lamers don't understand the concept of listing items on eBay. Looks like this guy was just listing it as a back up plan, and probably had the lot advertised in his local paper, and who knows where else? I can't believe he actually sold some of the lot, without even saying anything about it in the auction... I mean he took the time to update the "mistake" on the sealed Kirby's Adventure... what a douche.

[Buyatari]

Heh, I was watching that auction. Some eBay lamers don't understand the concept of listing items on eBay. Looks like this guy was just listing it as a back up plan, and probably had the lot advertised in his local paper, and who knows where else? I can't believe he actually sold some of the lot, without even saying anything about it in the auction... I mean he took the time to update the "mistake" on the sealed Kirby's Adventure after he most likely sold it... what a douche.



some of the items were sold so i can't

Buyatari@aol.com wrote:
You didn't end the auction and it ended on its own. So its a legally binding contract. Tell the local bidder you are sorry he is a day too late.

Adam
i had a local offer yesterday morning. i was selling my items locally in my town. if he flakes i guess your my second. sorry


Well , whats the worst here are the circumstances. If I had won this auction for $5,000.00 this would not have happened. He did mention he might end the auction early which was fine I can live with that. That he had this collection listed for sale elsewhere is plausable. I knew upfront before I bid so I can accept that. But here he just put that in there incase the auction didn't sell for enough money.



In a message dated 12/20/2005 8:32:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikehalol@yahoo.com writes:
some of the items were sold so i can't

ALL of the items were sold TO ME.

In your first email you said I was your "second" if he backs out NOW you say some items were already sold. Thats ok play it your way. I can't stop you but don't expect me to believe any of this crap.

[^DevIancE]

I had a similar problem a few years back when I won an auction for an SNES lot with a Super Scope, Avantage, Mouse, and like 50 games for around $100. The seller mailed me within minutes after the auction ended saying that the listing was a mistake, and was supposed to be removed. So I informed him of his binding contract, and he told me that the lot was already sold. ... I could understand why he didn't want to let it go that cheap, but to lie to me about the listing being a "mistake", when I knew he was most likely frantically clicking "refresh" the last ten minutes of it, kinda pissed me off.

[Insaneclown]

People like that belong in the Tool Shed. Geeezzzz...

[johno590]

That sucks. He really should be reported and removed from ebay. I hope he is for your sake.

[kevin_psx]

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(crunchyblack)(mtg) is the seller.



i had a local offer yesterday morning. i was selling my items locally in my town. if he flakes i guess your my second. sorry

I'd respond:


"Let me put it in simple terms

"1 - Sell the games you're LEGALLY BOUND to sell to the auction winner.

"2 - Else I'll report this to Ebay & you will no longer be selling here 'cause they'll kick you off for Seller Non-Performance.


"Your choice. If you're smart- you'll choose 1."

[kevin_psx]

I reported him- probably won't work since I'm not the buyer.
Buyatari should be reporting him & getting him kicked off.

[Buyatari]

I'd respond:


"Let me put it in simple terms

"1 - Sell the games you're LEGALLY BOUND to sell to the auction winner.

"2 - Else I'll report this to Ebay & you will no longer be selling here 'cause they'll kick you off for Seller Non-Performance.


"Your choice. If you're smart- you'll choose 1."

So let me ask you this. Would you even want to send this guy $1500.00? Now you have to send to someone elses paypal account since his isn't "working right now". Its one thing to be shafted its another to be ripped off. I've given up on getting this stuff. I was pissed off for a day and its over. If ebay suspends him good if not I have to move on and find the next auction.

[kevin_psx]

So let me ask you this. Would you even want to send this guy $1500.00? Now you have to send to someone elses paypal account since his isn't "working right now".

I would never have bid. Why bid on an auction that does not accept paypal? Check/money order provides no safety for you.




But assuming I did bid, YES I'd give him the money if he agrees to sell the goods -'cause I'm protected by paypal & credit cards if he decides to steal the money & not deliver. Plus I'm obligated to pay.

But if he still refuses- a likely scenario- I'd follow option #2 & report him to Ebay.

[Darth Sensei]

I'd respond:


"Let me put it in simple terms

"1 - Sell the games you're LEGALLY BOUND to sell to the auction winner.

"2 - Else I'll report this to Ebay & you will no longer be selling here 'cause they'll kick you off for Seller Non-Performance.


"Your choice. If you're smart- you'll choose 1."

So let me ask you this. Would you even want to send this guy $1500.00? Now you have to send to someone elses paypal account since his isn't "working right now". Its one thing to be shafted its another to be ripped off. I've given up on getting this stuff. I was pissed off for a day and its over. If ebay suspends him good if not I have to move on and find the next auction.

If he accepts, see if there is someone on DP in his area who can act as an intermediary. If he was in my area, I'd do it for you.

[scooby105]

he says he'll take other payments besides the ones he describes in his listing. make him send the package COD.

[sega-trader]

Well at least he can't brag about 100% positive feedback anymore. Also paypal provides you no real protection, those dicks don't care about you. The seller can send you a box of bricks. As long as he has a tracking number that shows he sent you something there is a 95% chance paypal will side with the seller.

[kevin_psx]

The seller can send you a box of bricks. As long as he has a tracking number that shows he sent you something there is a 95% chance paypal will side with the seller.


File "item not as described" and get your money back.

[Mr.Faxanadu]

I find these sealed NES lots cause nothing but problems. Remember the large one from Hawaii that had a BIN for 13,000. The winning bidder also didn't get it. I bet some eBayer saw that it went for "low" price and decided to offer the seller and extra couple of hundred for it.

[XianXi]

ebay is a catch-22. According to ebay rules: A seller does not have to complete a transaction but a winning bidder must pay.

Reason why is either way ebay gets paid, so they dont care. Blasphemy!!

[Griking]

The seller can send you a box of bricks. As long as he has a tracking number that shows he sent you something there is a 95% chance paypal will side with the seller.


File "item not as described" and get your money back.

How did that go when you filed your complaint with PayPal over those Playstation games?

[Buyatari]

Well I might as well never have bid. Same difference. Anyway he did have perfect feedback with an established account back to 2002. But now that he lied to me and hasn't replied to my last email calling him out I'd never send him any money. The auction is over , I bid and I lost. I can move on, it was a big deal for a day or so but honestly its the norm for NES sellers these days.

Adam


I would never have bid. Why bid on an auction that does not accept paypal? Check/money order provides no safety for you.




But assuming I did bid, YES I'd give him the money if he agrees to sell the goods -'cause I'm protected by paypal & credit cards if he decides to steal the money & not deliver. Plus I'm obligated to pay.

But if he still refuses- a likely scenario- I'd follow option #2 & report him to Ebay.

[Buyatari]

ebay is a catch-22. According to ebay rules: A seller does not have to complete a transaction but a winning bidder must pay.

Reason why is either way ebay gets paid, so they dont care. Blasphemy!!

Not so

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/seller-non-performance.html

Seller Non-Performance


When a seller lists an item on eBay, and a buyer bids for and wins that item, the seller and buyer have entered into a contract. Both members are expected to honor that contract. In accordance with that contract, the seller may not:

Fail to deliver an item for which payment was accepted.

Significantly misrepresent an item by not meeting the terms and item description outlined in the listing.

Refuse to accept payment for an item at the end of a successful sale.

Refuse to accept a buyer’s PayPal payment using a credit card if the seller included the PayPal logo in the listing which signifies the seller will accept PayPal payments. Sellers are not permitted to state in their listings that PayPal payments made via credit card will not be accepted.

Violations of this policy by a Seller may result in a range of actions, including:

Listing cancellation

Limits on account privileges

Account suspension

Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings

Loss of PowerSeller status

Referral to Law Enforcement

A buyer who believes that a seller has not honored a contract should read the Additional Information section below to understand what remedies are available to the buyer.