Any update on stores taking PS3 pre-orders?

[Anthony1]

Man, last week GameCrazy started taking PS3 preorders, but I knew nothing about it. I heard today from a friend and immediately went to my nearest GameCrazy and plunked $50 down. I'm the 10th person on the waiting list. At that particular GameCrazy, I figure I have a 50/50 chance of getting one the day of launch.


So I immediately drove to the next closest GameCrazy, and they already had 19 people signed up. Now this particular GameCrazy got a whopping 3 XBOX 360 systems for launch. So I figured that if I put $50 down there, my chances are about 10 percent or less, that I would actually get a launch PS3 there. So I passed.


Man, where was the "heads up" post from the GameCrazy employees on this site? I should have been the first guy on the list at both GameCrazies. Being the 10th guy at one GameCrazy is making me nervous. I don't think there is any chance of us not seeing another shortage situation like what happened with the PS2 during it's launch and the 360 this year. I don't see Nintendo or Sony passing up on all the free press they can get with Gamers camping overnight and the news reports of it being sold out everywhere and going for super high prices on Ebay.


The same thing is going to happen with the PS3 and Revolution, guaranteed. So if you want to avoid the whole camping situation, better get those babies preordered as soon as possible.

[Joker T]

How can they start taking pre-orders when nobody knows how much it will cost.

[Slipdeath]

Umm...that's how it works. The 360 price wasnt known until shortly before the launch.

[Joker T]

I guess.... but I wouldn't want to pre-order something that I don't know the price of.

[s1lence]

I verified this with my local gamecrazy, they are taking pre-orders as well. Considering that my last pre-order sucked, I'm not preordering the ps3.

[Darren870]

You just put the min down...$50. You could always get it back so I wouldn't worry about it.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Actually this started the first week of December secretly, then the 2nd week it was known to the public...

[Lothars]

hmm well i don't have a gamecrazy anywehere near me.

I definitly want a ps3

though im not sure if i should really preordre one, hmm would be something to think about.

thanks for the heads up.

[Six Switch]

i'll just win mine from mountain dew again.

fuck pre orders
and fuck spending money

[pacmanhat]

I went to mine today and they aren't taking them 'til the 1st of January. I guess it's just regional.

[GarrettCRW]

Here are the winners and losers in this one, kids:

Video game retailers + console makers = Teh win.

Game players = Screwed in the naughty place by a man named "Bubba".

[johno590]

i'll just win mine from mountain dew again.

fuck pre orders
and fuck spending money

You spend money to get the mountain dew bottles...

[Six Switch]

or
you just find empty bottles and take the caps.

that is how i won
and how you lost

[its_hey_ma]

or
you just find empty bottles and take the caps.

that is how i won
and how you lost

LOL, I did the same but still lost.....

Anyways, is there even a list of launch titles yet?

[Anthony1]

Any EBGames or GameStop employees in the house? Here is the deal... the second you hear your company is going to start taking preorders on the PS3, you need to let your fellow DP members know about it.


This way, at least we will have a fighting chance of getting a PS3 launch system. My guess, is that at a really popular EBgames, you could probably be in the top 20 and get a PS3 on launch day. Really popular GameStops, probably the same. As for GameCrazy, some of the GameCrazies only got like 3 XBOX 360 systems so I think the big 3 probably don't really consider GameCrazy to be any kind of retail force, so they treat them like a red headed stepchild. It's like they get the same number as Comp USA.


But with the number of Sony fanboys out there, and general EB and GameStop shoppers in general, the second they start taking pre-orders on the PS3, it's going to fill up super quick.


Man, it's funny that we are even talking about this. The thing isn't going to come out until November 2006 any damn way.

[Darren870]

Ill make a topic about it when I find out. Ill bring it up on the next confrence call. I dont think it will be till after the holidays though.

[Six Switch]

or
you just find empty bottles and take the caps.

that is how i won
and how you lost

LOL, I did the same but still lost.....



well,your a loser
and i am a winner

[Icarus Moonsight]

I taked with the Store Director at my local GameCrazy about the PS3 preorders. He outright admitted that I could pre-order a PS4 if I wanted to put down the $50 for it. Couldn't really tell if he was serious or not, as he didn't laugh nor did his tone of voice take a sarcastic tone. Now that's just outright haughty isn't it? O_O

Considering some of the people that preordered the 360 at that store won't be getting one by Christmas, a whole month after launch and screwed big time, I'm not to keen on pre-ordering anything anymore. They couldn't even get me Animal Crossing, which I PO'ed, until the 9th. Kinda ticked me off cause I saw it in retail cases before I got my PO copy. It's a scam if you ask me. Right up there with extended warrenties. :/

[Anthony1]

Considering some of the people that preordered the 360 at that store won't be getting one by Christmas, a whole month after launch and screwed big time, I'm not to keen on pre-ordering anything anymore. They couldn't even get me Animal Crossing, which I PO'ed, until the 9th. Kinda ticked me off cause I saw it in retail cases before I got my PO copy. It's a scam if you ask me. Right up there with extended warrenties. :/


Well, it's a scam in the fact that they are going to be earning some pretty good interest off everybodies preorder money, considering the PS3 won't hit for almost a full year. All those $50 preorders get deposited in a bank and they earn interest off it. Might not seem like much, but if they take 500,000 preorders nationwide, then that's 25 million. I'm not sure how much interest they will get for 25 million over a years time, but I'm sure it's more than I got in my bank account right now.


Having said all of that, I still think it makes sense to preorder if you are one of the first people to do it at whatever store it is. That's the real key. You have to be like one of the first 5 people at that store to preorder it.

[kainemaxwell]

my store's been taking pre-orders since the Summer.

[vahn401]

I taked with the Store Director at my local GameCrazy about the PS3 preorders. He outright admitted that I could pre-order a PS4 if I wanted to put down the $50 for it. Couldn't really tell if he was serious or not, as he didn't laugh nor did his tone of voice take a sarcastic tone. Now that's just outright haughty isn't it? O_O

Considering some of the people that preordered the 360 at that store won't be getting one by Christmas, a whole month after launch and screwed big time, I'm not to keen on pre-ordering anything anymore. They couldn't even get me Animal Crossing, which I PO'ed, until the 9th. Kinda ticked me off cause I saw it in retail cases before I got my PO copy. It's a scam if you ask me. Right up there with extended warrenties. :/

If it wasn't for those extended warranties, then I would of lost the 300 bucks i spent on the ps2, when it broke 4 months after buying the damn thing. I don't know about you, but paying 40-50 for the warranty is better then 300.

[WanganRunner]

I already put down $50 for my PS3 at FYE.

I'm 27th on their list, but the way it works there, I'm absolutely guaranteed the 27th system they get in, no re-shelving or screwing around.

May not be guaranteed on launch day, but system #27 is still mine.

[VG_Maniac]

I stopped at my local GameCrazy today, and asked the guy there if I could preorder the PS3. He said they aren't doing preorders for it yet and that he has no idea when they are going to start. I told him that I heard other GameCrazy stores had already begun doing preorders, and he said he hasn't heard anything about it.

[rjohnson]

or
you just find empty bottles and take the caps.

that is how i won
and how you lost

whazz up with YOU?
AND what's with the ATTiTude?

so what if you won one.... who gives a Rat's ass?

and HOW btw does one find EMPTY bottles with caps?

[Mattiekrome]

Just called my gamecrazy, no pre-orders yet -_-

[Xizer]

Why the hell would you want a PS3 at launch? If there's a system to avoid buying at launch, it's one by Sony. The PS2 had disc read errors, the PSP had flying UMDs and dead pixels.

[stressboy]

Why the hell would you want a PS3 at launch? If there's a system to avoid buying at launch, it's one by Sony. The PS2 had disc read errors, the PSP had flying UMDs and dead pixels.

Cause lots and lots and lots and lots of people have never had a problem with Sony hardware and are looking forward to the PS3.

[donkeykong1]

Why the hell would you want a PS3 at launch? If there's a system to avoid buying at launch, it's one by Sony. The PS2 had disc read errors, the PSP had flying UMDs and dead pixels.

Cause lots and lots and lots and lots of people have never had a problem with Sony hardware and are looking forward to the PS3.

Exactly.

[Dobie]

Its cool that you can order a PS3, but for what its worth, my Gamecrazy is also taking preorders on Halo 3. I don't get too geeked up about preorders anymore, given how the Xbox 360 preorders went. If I want a PS3 badly enough, I'll just camp out like I did for the 360. Seriously, it was a lot less stressful to get in line super early, and hang out for 13 hours in the cold, than it was worrying about when or if I was going to get my preordered console or not, and whether I was going to get my money back. I though preordering was supposed to take away that stress?

The only thing that will ever get me to preorder anything ever again is if there's a really good bonus, a la Zelda Bonus disc or the like.

[pacmanhat]

I went to reserve mine at my local GC today, and it turns out that they STILL don't have the SKU for the PS3 pre-order, and neither does any other GameCrazy. All I was able to do (and the same is t rue for anyone else in this situation) was to put a deposit into my account and wait for the SKU to show up. They also told me that they might (read: won't) be able to allow those of us who came ealry today to remain on the top of the list.

I'm not surprised at all, but I am most definitely disappointed that I was (intentionally or otherwise) misled.

[donkeykong1]

I just preordered 2 PS3 systems from Game Crazy. I will order another 3 or 4 more within the next few weeks. As soon as other retailers have preorders, I will preorder from them.

[AKay]

i went to mine today and they arent doing pre-orders yet?!
Wierd.
AKay

[Anthony1]

Any updates on when GameStop will start pre-ordering the PS3?

[Nature Boy]

I preordered my PS2 and had no problems getting my system. Mind you I did it at TRU as I can't stand buying hardware from EB and the like. As has been pointed out, you can preorder Halo 3 at an EB if you wanted to - whereas TRU won't bother doing so until they know what they're getting, and I prefer that method of doing business.

(I'll think about preordering in August if I know it's hitting stores in November. I know I could still get 'screwed,' but that doesn't bother me).

[kainemaxwell]

We took in about 3 PS3 pre-orders today, I think our total is about 12. Some guy was asking if he pre-ordered 10, would he get all 10 when his turn came up on the list or not...

[heybtbm]

We took in about 3 PS3 pre-orders today, I think our total is about 12. Some guy was asking if he pre-ordered 10, would he get all 10 when his turn came up on the list or not...

I think we will be seeing a lot of this for the PS3 and Revolution launches. Our pathetic ebay culture is to blame. I am certain that there will be several instances of 1 person pre-ordering a store's entire lauch allotment and selling them immediately on ebay.

Stores need to limit 1 console per address (on launch day). It won't prevent all the ebay assholes, but it'll make it harder for most people to do this.

[jajaja]

We took in about 3 PS3 pre-orders today, I think our total is about 12. Some guy was asking if he pre-ordered 10, would he get all 10 when his turn came up on the list or not...

I think we will be seeing a lot of this for the PS3 and Revolution launches. Our pathetic ebay culture is to blame. I am certain that there will be several instances of 1 person pre-ordering a store's entire lauch allotment and selling them immediately on ebay.

Stores need to limit 1 console per address (on launch day). It won't prevent all the ebay assholes, but it'll make it harder for most people to do this.

Why? This is pure business :)

[Nature Boy]

Why? This is pure business :)

For the same reason people get limited in the number of tickets they can buy for certain concerts or sporting events - your goal isn't to make somebody *else* money, but to make sure your fans get your product.

The more I hear about the PS3's potential price ($600 Canadian), the less likely I am to preorder one at this point. I *totally* wanted a launch PS3 like I have a launch PS2, but I'm not paying *anything* for it.

[jajaja]

If I found a box containing 10x sealed copies of Stadium Events for NES for only $10 each I would buy all of course and sell some on Ebay. I wouldnt just buy one copy and tell everyone else where they could get it for only $10. If you know you can buy a PS3 and sell it for the double on Ebay, why not? It isnt illegal and the buyers pay whatever they want. Just start the bid on $1 and see what happends. No one is forcing them to bid :) I wouldnt do it myself tho, too much hazzle and its a gamble. Its not sure you will get crazy prices on ebay like what happend with the xbox360.

[kainemaxwell]

Stores need to limit 1 console per address (on launch day). It won't prevent all the ebay assholes, but it'll make it harder for most people to do this.
I so agree to that one.

[heybtbm]

If I found a box containing 10x sealed copies of Stadium Events for NES for only $10 each I would buy all of course and sell some on Ebay. I wouldnt just buy one copy and tell everyone else where they could get it for only $10. If you know you can buy a PS3 and sell it for the double on Ebay, why not? It isnt illegal and the buyers pay whatever they want. Just start the bid on $1 and see what happends. No one is forcing them to bid :) I wouldnt do it myself tho, too much hazzle and its a gamble. Its not sure you will get crazy prices on ebay like what happend with the xbox360.

There's a big difference between a rare collectors item that hasn't been available at retail in years...and a product that is currently available (or will be soon in this case). Your comparing apples and oranges.

If someone wants to buy a PS3 and sell it right away on ebay, fine with me. If they are allowed to buy the only 10 a store might be getting in on launch day...that's bullshit. I hope stores realize that it's in their best interest to prevent this from happening. Anyway, I'm not really saying anything new here, most people on this board have expressed similar ideas since the 360 launch.

[pacmanhat]

Stores need to limit 1 console per address (on launch day). It won't prevent all the ebay assholes, but it'll make it harder for most people to do this.
I so agree to that one.

Same here. Anyone who would purposely buy massive numbers of a system to re-sell them at an inflated price is a monster...reading about the guy who made thousands on 360 sales made me want to vomit. When something like this is in such short supply, the product belongs in the hands of people who will appreciate it and use it. It doesn't belong in the hands of greed-mongerers.

[jajaja]

Yea, I know what you mean. It isnt illegal tho and it is a way to make some quick cash. There will always be consoles avalible in the stores. If someone wants to pay 2 or 3 times more for a console instead of waitng a week or 2 for a new batch, I wont stop them hehe. Its their money, I would never pay that much tho.

[Promophile]

I bought the PS2 shortly after launch, and I still regret it. If I would've waited I could've got it at a cheaper price and a better selection of games. Today I no longer buy systems shortly after release. I wait at least a year ; that way you actually have a large library of GOOD games, and possibly a price drop on the system.

[noname11]

Instead of blaming ebayers for jacking up the prices, Isnt it the fault of the producers who fail to produce enough systems for the launch? I mean its a real easy problem to solve ... you want the biggest fanbase? you want to cut out the bad rep you'll get online for not having enough systems?

Make enough systems for the launch date!!!!

People on ebay are gonna charge only as much as we consumers let them ...

Personally , i plan on buying up 3 or 4 Ps3's and selling them off in order to pick up an established system with good games ... let the graphics whore's have their overpriced shotty product.... Id rather have a game thats past the test of time on a system that wont die 4 months later....

[heybtbm]

Instead of blaming ebayers for jacking up the prices, Isnt it the fault of the producers who fail to produce enough systems for the launch?

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Nobody in this thread has blamed ebayers for jacking up prices. We're discussing how annoying it is that people could possibly pre-order an entire stores allotment of consoles on launch day. Where or how they sell them is moot.

[Nature Boy]

Instead of blaming ebayers for jacking up the prices, Isnt it the fault of the producers who fail to produce enough systems for the launch?

Actually it's more the fault of the consumers who are willing to pay above retail.

But that's neither here nor there for me - it's not like I'm going to pay above retail for something anyway. Heck, if I don't preorder at this point it's the cost that'll stop me, I'm certainly not going to pay *more* than that mere days afterwards...

No person should be allowed to preorder 10+ systems at one place - let them put their preorders in all over town of they want multiple systems. I'll be pissed if I can't preorder from TRU, say, because they only had 50 to sell and 5 people got 'em. It's bad customer relations for the TRU.

[unwinddesign]

Stores need to limit 1 console per address (on launch day). It won't prevent all the ebay assholes, but it'll make it harder for most people to do this.
I so agree to that one.

Same here. Anyone who would purposely buy massive numbers of a system to re-sell them at an inflated price is a monster...reading about the guy who made thousands on 360 sales made me want to vomit. When something like this is in such short supply, the product belongs in the hands of people who will appreciate it and use it. It doesn't belong in the hands of greed-mongerers.

So, by this logic Wal-Mart, TRU, EBGames, Gamestop, Amazon, Target, KMart et al. are ALL monsters. They all buy massive numbers of the system and then sell them at an inflated price to make thousands (millions).

It's business. If someone has the money, time and knowledge (yes, believe it or not, a lot of people do not know how to use eBay effectively) to do something like this, then why shouldn't they? How is it a moral issue? This isn't the cure for cancer or something in limited supply. This is a game system. Sure, it blows if you don't get yours, but that's how it goes. Go play something else for awhile, or pay the price if you can't wait. Besides, what do retailers care if they sell one hundred systems to one hundred people or one hundred to one person? They'll make the same (maybe more selling them all together, if you factor in the cost of putting through each credit card payment/number of hours it would take to make each individual sale) either way.

I just don't see how these people are "assholes" for seizing the oppurtunity to make a few bucks. I don't see how anyone is really "shortchanged" in this process. Seriously, waiting a month or two for a system ain't exactly horrible.

[heybtbm]

So, by this logic Wal-Mart, TRU, EBGames, Gamestop, Amazon, Target, KMart et al. are ALL monsters. They all buy massive numbers of the system and then sell them at an inflated price to make thousands (millions).

Actually retail stores make $0 from consoles. They buy a PS2 for $149.99, they sell it for $149.99. There is no profit. You wouldn't believe the amount of items that Walmart and Target loose money on just to get you in the door or buy games and accessories. Some stores are starting to take advantage of this and only sell consoles in "bundles" with items that they can make a profit on.


It's business.

Yes, we can excuse anything in the name of business.



How is it a moral issue? This isn't the cure for cancer or something in limited supply. This is a game system.

No this isn't as important as a cure for cancer, but since this is a video game forum and not a cancer forum, we can still treat this issue as "important" and keep our perspective.




Besides, what do retailers care if they sell one hundred systems to one hundred people or one hundred to one person? They'll make the same (maybe more selling them all together, if you factor in the cost of putting through each credit card payment/number of hours it would take to make each individual sale) either way.

It's easy to imagine a big faceless corporation "not caring" who buys systems from their chain...but...in reality, store managers do care. In fact, keeping their customers happy is the number 1 thing going through a managers mind. That and sales. Fortunately for us, the two go hand in hand.



I just don't see how these people are "assholes" for seizing the oppurtunity to make a few bucks. I don't see how anyone is really "shortchanged" in this process. Seriously, waiting a month or two for a system ain't exactly horrible.

"seizing the opportunity"? I call it FUCKING A STRANGER IN THE ASS (in Walter Sobchak's voice).

[unwinddesign]

Points taken, but I still don't see why it's a big deal. Yes, this is a videogame forum. Yes, I understand that people get pissed at the notion of someone buying 50 systems and unloading them with little effort on eBay/the internet. Before too long, there will be enough for everyone. If you want one bad enough prior to that, then go and camp for one.

It's an annoyance, but not nearly as bad or angering as some apparently think it is.

Back on topic, this time around for the PS3 I'm definately gonna preorder one from EBGames.com or Gamestop.com (maybe both, if possible), even with the shitty bundles. I got a 360 three weeks after launch (paying $100+ over retail, and also getting a core), and ended up with most of the shit in those bundles. Might as well go all out.

[Lothars]

I can't wait to preorder a ps3

even if i don't preorder I want to buy one on launch day it's a system I am really excited for.

[vincewy]

From XB 360 experience this year, I really feel Sony should just charge the cost of the system and maybe a little markup for themselves/retailers just for the holiday season, like $700, and why not? Look at how much people are willing to pay on eBay, if the stores start to get backed up with system because of price, they can start lowering the price of console to more mass market level like $400 - $500. This will greatly reduce people buying and reselling on eBay.

I'm skeptical that Sony can get PS3 out to US by holiday 2006 with more than 2 million units ready, I'm pretty sure that this year they won't even be able to meet demand in Japan, if they do indeed get PS3 out by Xmas, they might as well put out a high MSRP.

[Nature Boy]

From XB 360 experience this year, I really feel Sony should just charge the cost of the system and maybe a little markup for themselves/retailers just for the holiday season, like $700, and why not? Look at how much people are willing to pay on eBay

It doesn't work that way. If they bump up the price they lose customers - maybe not so many that they still won't sell out their initial shipment, but once the rest of their production hits nobody else is going to be buying at that price.

And you can't lower the price right away in order to stimulate sales, because then you've just pissed off your hard core audience. Finding the perfect price for it to sit at for a year really is incredibly important, for anybody in any market really.

[donkeykong1]

Stores need to limit 1 console per address (on launch day). It won't prevent all the ebay assholes, but it'll make it harder for most people to do this.
I so agree to that one.

Same here. Anyone who would purposely buy massive numbers of a system to re-sell them at an inflated price is a monster...reading about the guy who made thousands on 360 sales made me want to vomit. When something like this is in such short supply, the product belongs in the hands of people who will appreciate it and use it. It doesn't belong in the hands of greed-mongerers.

So, by this logic Wal-Mart, TRU, EBGames, Gamestop, Amazon, Target, KMart et al. are ALL monsters. They all buy massive numbers of the system and then sell them at an inflated price to make thousands (millions).

It's business. If someone has the money, time and knowledge (yes, believe it or not, a lot of people do not know how to use eBay effectively) to do something like this, then why shouldn't they? How is it a moral issue? This isn't the cure for cancer or something in limited supply. This is a game system. Sure, it blows if you don't get yours, but that's how it goes. Go play something else for awhile, or pay the price if you can't wait. Besides, what do retailers care if they sell one hundred systems to one hundred people or one hundred to one person? They'll make the same (maybe more selling them all together, if you factor in the cost of putting through each credit card payment/number of hours it would take to make each individual sale) either way.

I just don't see how these people are "assholes" for seizing the oppurtunity to make a few bucks. I don't see how anyone is really "shortchanged" in this process. Seriously, waiting a month or two for a system ain't exactly horrible.

I agree. I will also say that I too will buy as many consoles as I can and resell them on ebay. It's a quick way to make money and get a potential free system out of it.

[portnoyd]

Any updates on when GameStop will start pre-ordering the PS3?

Any updates on when GameStop/EB will start pre-ordering the PS3?

[pacmanhat]

Stores need to limit 1 console per address (on launch day). It won't prevent all the ebay assholes, but it'll make it harder for most people to do this.
I so agree to that one.

Same here. Anyone who would purposely buy massive numbers of a system to re-sell them at an inflated price is a monster...reading about the guy who made thousands on 360 sales made me want to vomit. When something like this is in such short supply, the product belongs in the hands of people who will appreciate it and use it. It doesn't belong in the hands of greed-mongerers.

So, by this logic Wal-Mart, TRU, EBGames, Gamestop, Amazon, Target, KMart et al. are ALL monsters. They all buy massive numbers of the system and then sell them at an inflated price to make thousands (millions).

It's business. If someone has the money, time and knowledge (yes, believe it or not, a lot of people do not know how to use eBay effectively) to do something like this, then why shouldn't they? How is it a moral issue? This isn't the cure for cancer or something in limited supply. This is a game system. Sure, it blows if you don't get yours, but that's how it goes. Go play something else for awhile, or pay the price if you can't wait. Besides, what do retailers care if they sell one hundred systems to one hundred people or one hundred to one person? They'll make the same (maybe more selling them all together, if you factor in the cost of putting through each credit card payment/number of hours it would take to make each individual sale) either way.

I just don't see how these people are "assholes" for seizing the oppurtunity to make a few bucks. I don't see how anyone is really "shortchanged" in this process. Seriously, waiting a month or two for a system ain't exactly horrible.

You're missing a big difference: Major retailers sell the systems for the MSRP - something that the people I called 'monsters' don't do. It's a moral issue because it keeps systems out of the hands of people who actually want to USE them. Furthermore, it's price gouging - a legal practice outside of civil emergencies, but an act that is widely regarded as reprehensible in virtually any circumstance. If a company were to do something like this, it would violate all sorts of sections in the Sherman Antitrust Act, but when an individual does it, it somehow becomes acceptable. This makes no sense to me.

Are they seizing the opportunity and exercising the rights that come with capitalism? Oh yes. Are they taking advantage of desperate, stupid individuals with too much money and not enough patience? Oh hell yes. Does this make it any more acceptable? Absolutely not. Just because something is legal and possible doesn't make it right.

[Anthony1]

So, any new info about this? I need to order both a PS3 and Revolution from somebody, and I need to be in the top 5 people at that store to ensure a non hassle Thanksgiving 2006.

[pacmanhat]

I know that Toys 'r' Us are taking them now. I'm pretty sure they're the only ones at this point.

[Slate]

I went to an EBGames and they were taking preorders for the PS3, It wasn't a small town EB though, it was an EB that had a 360, PS2, and Gamecube for customers to play, And it wasn't in a mall.

This was 10 days ago - March 31st 2006.

Edit: Yay, My 1,000th post on DP! :)

[Sylentwulf]

You're missing a big difference: Major retailers sell the systems for the MSRP - something that the people I called 'monsters' don't do. It's a moral issue because it keeps systems out of the hands of people who actually want to USE them. Furthermore, it's price gouging - a legal practice outside of civil emergencies, but an act that is widely regarded as reprehensible in virtually any circumstance. If a company were to do something like this, it would violate all sorts of sections in the Sherman Antitrust Act, but when an individual does it, it somehow becomes acceptable. This makes no sense to me.

Are they seizing the opportunity and exercising the rights that come with capitalism? Oh yes. Are they taking advantage of desperate, stupid individuals with too much money and not enough patience? Oh hell yes. Does this make it any more acceptable? Absolutely not. Just because something is legal and possible doesn't make it right.

So you're saying that forcing $700-$1100 bundles on every buyer that walks in the store is selling at MSRP and not cashing on on gamers with a ton of money?

[kainemaxwell]

Had to try to explainf or 10 minutes today to a customer why he may not get a PS3 on the launch day and the fact that Sony hasn't decided how they're going to distribute them to stores yet. So he cancelled and got his 2 PS3 preorders refunded, then kept asking the same questions again about it. Sheesh.