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[2Dskillz]

I picked up a complete copy of this over the weekend and the back of the box is in multiple languages. It has 1 paragraph in english and then the same paragraph is repeated in French, Italian, etc...

Is this normal for Strider on the Genesis?

[Dire 51]

No. At least not that I've ever seen. Does it have the Genesis logo on the front, or does it say Mega Drive? It sounds like the PAL version to me.

[2Dskillz]

Oh, I guess it is the PAL version then. Thanks so much, I am still new actually collecting. I guess that means PAL versions play fine on U.S. systems?

[anagrama]

I guess that means PAL versions play fine on U.S. systems?

Most early games (pre-'93) are universal, but later ones are often region-locked.

[2Dskillz]

Awesome, thank you so much for the information, that will help alot with future shopping.

So, does that make it any rarer?

[evil_genius]

Awesome, thank you so much for the information, that will help alot with future shopping.

So, does that make it any rarer?

No

[Ulticron]

That's interesting, I have a similar Strider story. I picked up a copy of it loose and I noticed there was a sticker underneath the sticker showing on the cartrige. Well curiousity may have killed this cat but I got started on peeling away the top sticker. While the top sticker says Strider 2 and it's a US version the sticker underneath is for Strider 1 and it says Mega Drive. I've played the game and it's Strider 2. So i don't know what to make of the whole situation.

[rbudrick]

That's interesting, I have a similar Strider story. I picked up a copy of it loose and I noticed there was a sticker underneath the sticker showing on the cartrige. Well curiousity may have killed this cat but I got started on peeling away the top sticker. While the top sticker says Strider 2 and it's a US version the sticker underneath is for Strider 1 and it says Mega Drive. I've played the game and it's Strider 2. So i don't know what to make of the whole situation.

Hmmm...maybe they just recycled excess Strider 1 carts for the Strider 2 release.

As for this thread, it definitely sounds PAL, since North American releases at MOST would probably only have English, Spanish and French. But, I could be wrong. If not PAL, Canadian?

-Rob

[anagrama]

That's interesting, I have a similar Strider story. I picked up a copy of it loose and I noticed there was a sticker underneath the sticker showing on the cartrige. Well curiousity may have killed this cat but I got started on peeling away the top sticker. While the top sticker says Strider 2 and it's a US version the sticker underneath is for Strider 1 and it says Mega Drive. I've played the game and it's Strider 2. So i don't know what to make of the whole situation.

Hmmm...maybe they just recycled excess Strider 1 carts for the Strider 2 release.

Possible, although Strider 1 was published by Sega while Strider 2 was by US Gold :/



As for this thread, it definitely sounds PAL, since North American releases at MOST would probably only have English, Spanish and French. But, I could be wrong. If not PAL, Canadian?


Yeah, chances are it's PAL.
Does the box say "Mega Drive" or "Genesis"? European games will have a Mega Drive logo and between 5 & 8 languages on the back, while Canadian releases have a Genesis logo and just English/French packaging.
Then again, it's entirely possible that some Euro titles were imported to Canada rather than go to the hassle of printing up exclusive Canadian covers (as happened with several SMS games).

[ClassicGameTrader]

That's interesting, I have a similar Strider story. I picked up a copy of it loose and I noticed there was a sticker underneath the sticker showing on the cartrige. Well curiousity may have killed this cat but I got started on peeling away the top sticker. While the top sticker says Strider 2 and it's a US version the sticker underneath is for Strider 1 and it says Mega Drive. I've played the game and it's Strider 2. So i don't know what to make of the whole situation.

Strange, I have a similar problem with the PS1 version. When I put in the Strider 1 disc it is actually Strider 2 and vice versa. I wonder if there is any connection between these two similar sounding problems. LOL

I know I know but it just reminded me.....

[Bloodreign]

I lost an Ebay bidwar for Strider and Forgotten Worlds (both complete) for Genesis, but I decided to give both games another run, this time only Strider is complete, FW isn't but at this point I just want to get my hands on them, to complement my Genesis Ghouls N Ghosts complete.

[Mark III]

If it isn't a US version then it is probably Canadian. Most of the early Genesis games were sold the way you describe in Canada, much like the Master System games released here. I had a Herzog Zwei that also had an "international" case and manual.

[Mark III]

If it isn't a US version then it is probably Canadian. Most of the early Genesis games were sold the way you describe in Canada, much like the Master System games released here. I had a Herzog Zwei that also had an "international" case and manual.

[heybtbm]

No multi-language package for my US Strider but it still have the Babbage's $69.99 price sticker...ouch!

[NeoZeedeater]

No multi-language package for my US Strider but it still have the Babbage's $69.99 price sticker...ouch!
I guess I was lucky. I paid $59.99 Canadian for the Japanese import in 1990.

And the whole multi-language package thing confused me back in the SMS days. I thought it was odd that half my games were all English and half had several languages.

[Graham Mitchell]

Possible, although Strider 1 was published by Sega while Strider 2 was by US Gold :/


Yeah, but all licensed Genesis carts at that time were manufactured by Sega, regardless of publisher. So I guess it really is possible...

[kedawa]

I bought the import too, I just couldn't wait.
The worst thing about the international Genesis games were the manuals. Instead of having a section for each language, there were six languages on every 2-page spread.
They were also printed sideways, making them really floppy.

[ManciGames]

No multi-language package for my US Strider but it still have the Babbage's $69.99 price sticker...ouch!

I remember the hype behind that game when it first came out. It was supposed to be the most amazing console game ever, up to that point. They really pushed that is was the first 8 meg (I think) home cart.

Needless to say, I put it tops on my list, but when I saw the $70 price tag, I said "No thank you," and rented it instead. It was glorious. Truly one of the "best games of its time" and deserving of its spot on EGM's list.

I still remember to this day, in vivid detail, sliding down the side of that snow covered mountain. Amazing... I picked up a copy a few months back. And it only cost me $7 complete/mint. Or 1/10th of what I almost paid 16 years ago. I'll have to plug it in this weekend.

[Graham Mitchell]

No multi-language package for my US Strider but it still have the Babbage's $69.99 price sticker...ouch!

I remember the hype behind that game when it first came out. It was supposed to be the most amazing console game ever, up to that point. They really pushed that is was the first 8 meg (I think) home cart.

Needless to say, I put it tops on my list, but when I saw the $70 price tag, I said "No thank you," and rented it instead. It was glorious. Truly one of the "best games of its time" and deserving of its spot on EGM's list.

I still remember to this day, in vivid detail, sliding down the side of that snow covered mountain. Amazing... I picked up a copy a few months back. And it only cost me $7 complete/mint. Or 1/10th of what I almost paid 16 years ago. I'll have to plug it in this weekend.

I'm in total agreement. Strider is a masterpiece, and if you compare it to the Arcade version, it's shocking how close of a port it was. Aside from some aesthetic differences (and those awesome voices in the cut scenes), they play identically. I also payed the $70 for it back then.

That snowy mountain jump is infamous. You bring this game up to people and 90% of them will say that's the thing they remember about it.

"Sons of Old Gods--DIE!"

[ManciGames]

That snowy mountain jump is infamous. You bring this game up to people and 90% of them will say that's the thing they remember about it.

"Sons of Old Gods--DIE!"

You know, it's funny you say that, because I don't remember much else about it in detail. I remember being amazed by it. By the gameplay. The graphics. The sound and music. But, I don't think I could name another level if my life depended on it. :)

As an aside. I just put some Controversy on right before I hit DP. It's playing as I type this. And I just noticed your avatar. Nice.

[Graham Mitchell]

Annie Christian, antichrist.

[Fighter17]

God I hate the US and European cover art, it was horrible! Because of this, I purchase the import version of Strider from Japan complete. My god, the cartridge is different, the manual is colorfull (which kicks the b/w manuals ass), and it was unedited a bit. Very good for $20.

[ManciGames]

Annie Christian, antichrist.

Yep. Yep...

He killed John Lennon, no?

[Graham Mitchell]

Annie Christian, antichrist.

Yep. Yep...

He killed John Lennon, no?

I don't know; I thought that was a fictional character he made up. Sounds like I've got some investigating to do.

Okay, sorry for the thread jack. Strider is awesome.

[TEND]

Okay, just throwing this out there, I was just going through soem of my genny boxes and came across Sonic, which is just like this. About 6 or 7 languages on the box, and this is for certain a Canadian version. Also just to add to speculation that they may be recycled PAL covers on the bottom it says for use with the Sega Mega Drive console. Than on the top it has the Genesis thing.
I can take pictures if anyone wants them.

[ManciGames]

Annie Christian, antichrist.

Yep. Yep...

He killed John Lennon, no?

I don't know; I thought that was a fictional character he made up. Sounds like I've got some investigating to do.

Okay, sorry for the thread jack. Strider is awesome.

No, no. Annie is fictional. I was just paraphrasing. lol

And yeah, Strider...one of the best ever.

[Graham Mitchell]

Annie Christian, antichrist.

Yep. Yep...

He killed John Lennon, no?

I don't know; I thought that was a fictional character he made up. Sounds like I've got some investigating to do.

Okay, sorry for the thread jack. Strider is awesome.

No, no. Annie is fictional. I was just paraphrasing. lol

And yeah, Strider...one of the best ever.

Right on...it took me awhile to catch on. ;)

So, how long do you think we can derail this thread before the mods get in here?

[2Dskillz]

The box has all Genesis LOGOs so I guess that would rule out the PAL option.

How strange...

Either way, it plays just fine.

[anagrama]

In that case it sounds like a Canadian version. I would have assumed that Canadian packaging only had English & French, but other posts here seem to have confirmed that they have Euro-style multiple languages.

Any chance you can post a pic/scan of the cover (front & back)?
I've listed a few Canadian covers in the recent DB update I sent to Joe, but that's still not online yet. I'll add this one into the next update.
Also, if anyone else has any other Canadian Genny covers, feel free to send me a pic and I'll include them next time around...

[2Dskillz]

I will try to get to a scanner ASAP.

And thanks again to all of the assistance being provided on this curiosity.

[Eternal Champion]

What's the Japanese cover like? Any links and/or scans? I'm curious to see it.

Strider blew me away back in 1990. I still have it complete, as I borrowed it from an acquaintance while at university over 10 years ago, and never saw him again!

[Ed Oscuro]

What's the Japanese cover like?
Sure, hold on a sec.

I'll get the Mega Drive cover...and the x68000 one, too (which blows it away).

[anagrama]

What's the Japanese cover like? Any links and/or scans? I'm curious to see it.


JP/EU/US/BR scans: http://www.guardiana.net/database/?id=144#v999

[Ed Oscuro]

Hmm, well, I'm still going to scan mine (I'm pretty sure I did it before, but it probably wasn't ever backed up and has been lost since). Will have to wait until after classes, though.

[kedawa]

God I hate the US and European cover art, it was horrible! Because of this, I purchase the import version of Strider from Japan complete. My god, the cartridge is different, the manual is colorfull (which kicks the b/w manuals ass), and it was unedited a bit. Very good for $20.

I had never seen that cover until it was posted in this thread, but holy crap is it ever terrible.

The funniest thing about the japanese manual is the picture of the kid jumping on the cart while yelling 'paki.'

[2Dskillz]

Still working on getting a scan, but for reference this cover looks like the second one on that list of covers, but with the Genesis logo in place of the megadrive logo.

[Ed Oscuro]

~903K, 56K beware!

http://home.comcast.net/~edoscuro/x68k_strider_fr.jpg

I just scanned the front of the box as my scanner's bed isn't big enough to fit the whole insert in (it's barely wide enough, but would need to be longer). If you look closely you might see the surface of the plastic in front of the insert.

Yes, the MD cover's decent...but this is awesome!

[2Dskillz]

That really makes you wonder why they decided to use a picture of Flash Gordon's underachieving younger brother on the other release covers.

[Graham Mitchell]

~903K, 56K beware!

http://home.comcast.net/~edoscuro/x68k_strider_fr.jpg

I just scanned the front of the box as my scanner's bed isn't big enough to fit the whole insert in (it's barely wide enough, but would need to be longer). If you look closely you might see the surface of the plastic in front of the insert.

Yes, the MD cover's decent...but this is awesome!

Wasn't that pic on the side art of the US arcade cabinet? It seems familiar to me.

[Eternal Champion]

That really makes you wonder why they decided to use a picture of Flash Gordon's underachieving younger brother on the other release covers.
I had forgotten how cheesy that cover is.

[Ed Oscuro]

~903K, 56K beware!

http://home.comcast.net/~edoscuro/x68k_strider_fr.jpg

I just scanned the front of the box as my scanner's bed isn't big enough to fit the whole insert in (it's barely wide enough, but would need to be longer). If you look closely you might see the surface of the plastic in front of the insert.

Yes, the MD cover's decent...but this is awesome!

Wasn't that pic on the side art of the US arcade cabinet? It seems familiar to me.
I can't say. I looked up the KLOV entry (http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=&game_id=9838) and it seems you can rule out the US cabinet (look at that cheesy marquee), but they don't have any images of Strider Hiryu (i.e. the Japanese release).

This could easily be a "re-imagining" by Capcom's increasingly refined artists in the early 90s. While the copyright date on the game is '89, the game artwork seems a bit more refined, like something from the mid-90s, and the box itself is better constructed than other games released for the x68K at the time (plus the other game box in this style I have is Super Street Fighter II' which dates later as well). I could be totally off-base on that point, though.

[2Dskillz]

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1551/strider7vr.jpg




This is the cover, it has a UPC but it was colored over in magic marker. (A new UPC sticker for preowned games was placed on the plastic of the genesis cover, I assume this is why the original was blanked out.)

[RevQuixo]

Well without having the barcode available, i would say that this is probably the Canadian version. If you can make out the start of the barcode at all and it starts with "069044" that would close the deal. In fact, I can tell you what the canadian Strider barcode should be:

069044011120

I have seen a copy of Mercs that was the same way....Euro text on the back with Genesis name...and a Canadian barcode

[Skyway_Recreation]

yo, that box art is terrible. why the hell do us american and canadian ppls get screwed all the time when it comes to box art? that x68000 art is freakin awesome! is it good looking on the x68000? closer to the arcade then the genny/MD, or bout the same?

[2Dskillz]

Thanks for the knowledge, It had been getting a little weird because I could not find this version of the cover anywhere on the web. Are the canadian versions smaller runs, and are they always a different cover type than the US?

[Ed Oscuro]

yo, that box art is terrible. why the hell do us american and canadian ppls get screwed all the time when it comes to box art? that x68000 art is freakin awesome! is it good looking on the x68000? closer to the arcade then the genny/MD, or bout the same?
Strider should be an "arcade perfect" port on the x68000, as the main processor is the same, the sound hardware is equivalent, and the x68000 has plenty of RAM. What's more, Super Street Fighter II' was arcade perfect.

[rbudrick]

I think I have a Japanese DOS version of this on 5.25 inch floppies...I'll look around.

-Rob

[Ed Oscuro]

I think I have a Japanese DOS version of this on 5.25 inch floppies...I'll look around.

-Rob
DOS-V or something like that? Looking forward to seeing it. :)

[anagrama]

Thanks for the knowledge, It had been getting a little weird because I could not find this version of the cover anywhere on the web. Are the canadian versions smaller runs, and are they always a different cover type than the US?

Yeah, Canadian covers will almost certainly have been printed in much smaller runs than their US/Euro equivalents.
I've seen around 15-20 Canadian covers that are noticeably different to the US release, mainly early black-box Sega releases. I've also seen othes that look the same as the US cover but have a multi-language Euro manual. I haven't spent much time looking onto it though, so there's probably a bunch I've missed.

[Ed Oscuro]

Looking at the Classicgaming page (http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/strider/strider.htm) on Strider, I see where the x68000 cover came from. It's the artwork for the PC-Engine version of Strider (much larger, though)!

[Graham Mitchell]

Looking at the Classicgaming page (http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/strider/strider.htm) on Strider, I see where the x68000 cover came from. It's the artwork for the PC-Engine version of Strider (much larger, though)!

Now I'm pretty sure THAT picture was the sideart on the cabinet.

That PC-Engine version looks gorgeous (I would expect no less). I should attempt to track that down.

[rbudrick]

Strider Hiryu was initially a manga by Moto Kikaku, printed in 1988 in the Monthly Comp Comics magazine. While the plot has nothing to do with any of the arcade, the storyline of the NES game is loosely based off the manga. Capcom was strongly involved in the creation of this comic, and eventually brought out the first arcade game after the manga had finished its rather short run. However, all appearances of Strider have always credit Moto Kikaku as the character designer. While Hiryu wears a flowing red mask in the original artwork, he never actually appears in this in the games - at least, until his appearance in Marvel vs Capcom and eventually Strider 2.\

A manga? Wow, now that's info I wasn't privy to. To all those who disliked the NES version, you still suck. ;) And this is more info to my pro-NES version argument arsenal. LOL 8-)

Cool link, Ed!

-Rob

[Ed Oscuro]

Ah, I seem to have gotten the timeline mixed up there on the manga. I'm not sure when the NES game is supposed to take place, or the arcade game.

I've yet to beat the first level of the NES Strider. I don't like that (I recently described it as a "shitty maze of shit"). I've also had some guy badgering me at length about the game every time I join IRC (not EFnet), so that also makes it less palatable to me at the moment.

On the other hand, I spent a good deal of time playing Osman/Cannon Dancer yesterday.

This game is sweet, and alongside Charlie Ninja it's one of the reasons I think arcade manufacturer Mitchell is so highly underrated.

People say the game rips off Strider...that's not really a fair analysis, as the game's director was the director of the original Strider. Isn't he allowed to borrow from his own work (legal implications aside)? I think so!

I'd definitely love to get my hands on an Osman cab. I don't know how much it'd cost, but I'll say right now I'd trade away my Stratovox cocktail and throw something else in there to get one...

[rbudrick]

Ah, I seem to have gotten the timeline mixed up there on the manga. I'm not sure when the NES game is supposed to take place, or the arcade game.

It is approximately 5 years after the arcade Strider. Iirc, the first level is a bit of a pain, but after that the game starts to really rock. Anybody that's played through it that I've ever met has not regretted it. Although if someone is badgering you about it, I guess that could really turn you off.

Anyway, check out these pics. The Dos Strider I have is actually Chinese, not Japanese. I don't know which Chinese language it is, but my money's on Mandarin, from the few words I can make out. Could be wrong. Seems it is for the IBM XT/AT and runs on Dos3.1 512k of ram min, heh heh.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010012.jpg
Front
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010013.jpg
Back
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010015.jpg
Spine (opens on back and front)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010016.jpg
Front side open...shows disk one in sleeve and instruction book
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010017.jpg
Back side open...shows disk 2 and 3
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010018.jpg
Instructions-1st open page
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010019.jpg
Second open page
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010021.jpg
3rd
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010022.jpg
4th
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010023.jpg
5th
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010024.jpg
6th
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/P1010025.jpg
7th

Anyone know if this will work in a modern PC?

-Rob

[Zubiac666]

Anyone know if this will work in a modern PC?

-Rob

You could run it in Dosbox for example.Or other DOS-emus.Should be no problem.

[Graham Mitchell]

"The Best in Computer Game". LOL

[rbudrick]

I guess I'll have to find a 5.25 drive. Anyone know where I can buy NEW ones (or at least old overstock if nothing else)? I may have to find some disks too because one disk's sealed case/sheeth thing is a bit bent. I should probaby back them up since they are from Abe Lincoln's day.

Did they ever make external 5.25 drives any smaller than a Volkswagon? I ask this because the floppy connector used on 5.25s are a different shape than 3.5s, and I'd like to avoid internal, and I don't want a Abrams tank-sized thing hanging around. Does Win XP recognize 5.25 drives?

-Rob