Which non-main console to start?

[2Dskillz]

I have been seduced more and more by the collecting bug in the time I have spent on DP. Right now I am getting to a point where I would like to add one of the less main stream consoles to my collection, something like the turbo g or a neogeo, even older systems like the various ataris could be an option. I just wanted to ask what would be a good starting point, something that would be easy to get started into, maybe a little easy on the wallet too.

Currently I have:
Genesis
N64
PS1and2
DS
Gameboy
Jaguar
(cannot count the NES until I can find cables and controllers)

I really enjoy good platforming, 2d fighting, shmups. I trust the opinions around here, thus I throw myself upon your collective wisdom.

[VG_Maniac]

I wouldn't go with a NeoGeo if you want something that's easy on the wallet. If I were you, I'd get a Dreamcast. Lots of good, quality titles on the DC...including some excellent 2D fighters.

And even though it's more mainstream...you really should pick up an SNES as soon as you can. 8-)

[jajaja]

If you like 2d fighting get a neo geo, no doubt. Be prepared to use alot of money tho :)

[Mayhem]

Or how about just the Neo Geo Pocket Color? ;)

[shaggy]

If you want something small and simple I'd say go with the 32x. Not many titles and the more expensive games won't bust your wallet (I think).

[keiblerfan69]

2D fighters= Neo Geo is what you want. But if not go with a Dreamcast.

[blue lander]

For shmups, you can't beat a Turbo Duo. It's probably got the best library out there. Make sure you get one that can play imports, though. The Saturn and Dreamcast also have fanastic shmup libraries as well.

And I wouldn't recommend buying a 32x to anybody. The games may be cheap, but none of them are any good.

[Tan]

if you've got a genny then maybe get a master converter to play Sega Master System games, or just buy a sms, great system with alot of classic games like phantasy star, outrun and altered beast.

system and games aren't hard to find for little $$$ and most controllers and cords are compatible with the genny1

[Ed Oscuro]

Only you can decide what system you want to start. I'd go with a system that has games you enjoy...

Consider getting imports for the systems you already have, like Super Famicom stuff. Lots of great games on there not seen in the west, though some consider it top-heavy with RPGs (or maybe that's bottom-heavy, depending on your view of the genre).

I think all the mainstream systems offer great libraries, if you're content to have a few great games and ignore anything you don't want. To me, it doesn't make sense to ask "what system" when you can ask "what games?"

That's my key: I don't buy any games I don't want. Saves money, space (in the case of certain really popular systems, if you try to go complete), and disappointment, plus I get a wider understanding than I would've by sticking with one system, if only because it requires more hardware.

[Jumpman Jr.]

I can say from experience that the Intellivision library is quite easy (and fun) to collect with. Its also sort of obscure because it was released quite some time ago and has a fairly small selection of games (175ish).

[Julio III]

for 2d fighters and shmups i'm gonna say go for a Dreamcast, has a nice healthy library of these, a bit lacklustre on the platforming front though

[2Dskillz]

I have noticed a lot of Dreamcast recommendations, sounds like it maybe an option, but is that controller hard to use? It looks a little unwieldy.

[blue lander]

The Dreamcast controller isn't great for shmups, but you can buy one of those ASCII FT pads that looks just like a Saturn pad. The joypad is a bit mushier than I'd like, but it gets the job done. Or just get a Dreamcast-to-Playstation controller.

[Xexyz]

Dreamcast is a great recommendation. As each year passes, complete games seem to be drying up in the wild, especially the good & uncommon titles. I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now the DC was uncommon to come across in the wild like the SMS and to a lesser extent, the Saturn. Speaking of the SMS, if you ever find one, you mine as well collect for it. There are some rare games for it, and finding games for it in general (assuming you live in NA) can be tricky in the wild, but nothing on it is really pricey.

[squidblatt]

I also recommend the Intellivision if you really don't mind playing very early games. There are tons of great games like Microsurgeon, Utopia, Sea Battle, Treasure of Tarmin, and others to choose from. I happen to love the packaging and overlays that come with the games. Not extrememly expensive, either. However, if you want something more modern, I'd go with the Dreamcast. Although I'm one of the minority who thinks that the Jaguar and 3DO have their charms too.

[Ed Oscuro]

I have noticed a lot of Dreamcast recommendations, sounds like it maybe an option, but is that controller hard to use? It looks a little unwieldy.
You don't have to buy a whole collection right away ;) Get a few games and see if you like 'em, and dump it if need be.

[Aussie2B]

Or how about just the Neo Geo Pocket Color? ;)

That's a really good recommendation. Kinda obscure but not too expensive, a lot of great games that don't get the attention they deserve, and almost every single game in the handheld's small library is worth playing.

A PC Engine/Turbo Duo would be my other recommendation, since as far as I'm concerned, you pretty much can't do any better as far as shmups go. And since it also has a lot of great platformers and some good fighters, it's a great option. It's a little expensive to get the hardware, but after that it's not so bad. Many of the best games are very cheap.

[Trebuken]

In my experience...easiest to hardest...assuming you pursue a complete collection.

- N-Gage (easy, and cheap)
- 32x (-Spiderman and Deion Sanders)
- Odyssey 2 (Powerlords, settle for an import on this one...maybe Demon Attack too)
- Atari 7800 (Anyone spare a copy of Tank Command?)
- Sega Master System (And a Buster Douglas?)
- Neo Geo Pocket
- Intellivision, many more games thean the systems so far
- Nintendo 64 (300 ish games, and you'll need a couple of imports (Sin & Punishment)
- Atari 5200 (Couple of impossibly expensive titles)
- Game Gear
- Dreamcast
- Atari Jaguar
- Sega CD
- Sega Saturn (getting expensive but still less than 300 games)
- Turbo Grafx (Is this easier or tougher than Saturn? Not sure)
- Atari 2600 (The first couple hundred are easy)
- NES (Tough to complete but you can get many titles cheaply)
- Sega Genesis (Again, maybe easier than the NES)
- Game Cube
- Super Nintendo (Breaking the bank)
- Playstation (1550 titles, long boxes, GH collection.) SNES may be tougher and more expensive though.
- Neo Geo AES (Simply for the $$$)

Left a few out, but this is the impression I have gotten through my collecting habits.

Later,
Trebuken

[ahamilton0953]

On a side note to the comment about compatibility of controllers:

I have the 3 button controller with joystick and dials for turbo on the buttoms for the Genesis ( have one at home bot forget what it's called and I'm at work ) and it actually will function as a joystick for the Commodore 64. I had a car driving game ( off hand don't remember but all the C64 users out there probably remember ) and it actually worked for that game quite well. Made it really easy for driving!

[kirin jensen]

Well. If you want to collect an early (late 70s - early 80s) system:

If you want a system where you can collect all the games pretty easily, get an Intellivision.

If you want the system of the era (according to most people), get an atari 2600.

If you want to play new homebrews, it's your choice: 2600, Intellivision, Odyssey2, Colecovision and Vectrex all have them.

If you want something that will need explanation every time it's approached by a noncollecting friend: Adventurevision, miocrovision or the vectrex.

Or
You could get the
greatest gaming system of all time

The Odyssey2 :D

[Niku-Sama]

if you decidin between a neo geo and dreamcast and money is an issue dreamcast would be the better...i mean, i found 2 in a dumpster that work...how often do you find neo geo's in a dumpster that work? or at all?

[2Dskillz]

Would it be wiser starting out to collect a lot for one console, or focus on picking up a variety of consoles?

Right now I kind of feel like I want more machines, and I totally blame the DP forums for this growing urge :D

[Ed Oscuro]

Games come first...if you're on the fence about something, emulate it! No sense getting a number of arcade port leftovers on the Master System (FOR EXAMPLE, not bashing the system) and then dumping it all...only to find Power Strike and Monster World III (among others) later on LOL

Of course it's nice to have the systems first, but I've generally bought up games I knew I wanted, and have yet to decide what rev of system I want (Amiga and PC-Engine as examples of systems I still don't own).

[Tron 2.0]

NeoGeo:For it's fighters and action games.

TG16/PCE:For it's shooters but it does have some good solid action titles.Btw some games are cheap some are expensive :angry:

Saturn:Shooter,Fighters,Action games you name it,it has it.

That's all that comes to mind for me.

[Tron 2.0]

A PC Engine/Turbo Duo would be my other recommendation, since as far as I'm concerned, you pretty much can't do any better as far as shmups go. And since it also has a lot of great platformers and some good fighters, it's a great option. It's a little expensive to get the hardware, but after that it's not so bad. Many of the best games are very cheap.
Wrong some games are cheap for it some... are expensive ;)

Example, U.S Neutpoia 2 go for $100.00+ these days :P

While a common game like, Blazeing Lazers go's for a few bucks.

[AB Positive]

A dreamcast or a NGPC seem like good choices for you, but let me give a bit of a tongue-in-cheek warning on the NGPC.

If you start collecting NGPC, you WILL end up collecting some form of regular Neo. Don't care if it's CD, MVS, or AES, you will collect neo. I've had at one point and time a decent collection of everything but the CD system, and it's addictive to collect for as it is to play. Word to the wise, make sure you have a decent job before collecting Neo. That's all I'm saying :D

-AB+

p.s. go for the Neo stuff

[Aussie2B]

Wrong some games are cheap for it some... are expensive ;)

Example, U.S Neutpoia 2 go for $100.00+ these days :P

While a common game like, Blazeing Lazers go's for a few bucks.

But you can just as easily get a Japanese copy of Neutopia 2. :P

I think the US library is more for collectors, while the Japanese library is more for people who just want to play. Just look at Dynastic Hero. I think somebody would have to be mad to pay $500 for a US version when you can get a Japanese version for probably no more than $20. I'd liken the situation to MVS versus AES. There's no overwhelming reason to go with the SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive option as far as playability goes, so in the end, it's a collecting thing.

I don't own a single US game for my system yet, and really, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. In my opinion, most of the system's best games never even left Japan, and with the big bucks games, I don't think most of those are significantly better than the cheap games.

[Dreamscape]

Perhaps you should look into the Sega Saturn. To get the best out of the system you would have to do some importing, but it's well worth it.

[Tron 2.0]

Wrong some games are cheap for it some... are expensive ;)

Example, U.S Neutpoia 2 go for $100.00+ these days :P

While a common game like, Blazeing Lazers go's for a few bucks.

But you can just as easily get a Japanese copy of Neutopia 2. :P

I think the US library is more for collectors, while the Japanese library is more for people who just want to play. Just look at Dynastic Hero. I think somebody would have to be mad to pay $500 for a US version when you can get a Japanese version for probably no more than $20. I'd liken the situation to MVS versus AES. There's no overwhelming reason to go with the SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive option as far as playability goes, so in the end, it's a collecting thing.

I don't own a single US game for my system yet, and really, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. In my opinion, most of the system's best games never even left Japan, and with the big bucks games, I don't think most of those are significantly better than the cheap games.
Ture then again i got the, U.S Neutpoia so i could play it in english ;)

I did do the opposite on, Dynastic Hero though got the jpn version insted.

Just like you mentions it's "dirt cheap" compare to u.s version.

TG16: games cheap to expensive.

PCE: the same as above.

So in the end it's what ya buy if ya wanna save money :embarrassed:

[freckledpeas]

Would it be wiser starting out to collect a lot for one console, or focus on picking up a variety of consoles?

Right now I kind of feel like I want more machines, and I totally blame the DP forums for this growing urge :D

This one really is a personal choice. For example, my personal goal is to collect systems first, since I like to have these on display in my game room. However, not everyone has the same goal as I do. Therefore, one could argue (quite strongly) that it is better to focus on one console. I think if you find the one console that satisfies your gaming needs, then keep supporting it until you get that urge for something new and different. This would be especially true if your funds are limited.