Valkyrie Profile and Suikoden 2 rereleased for the ps1?

[graboid9]

i was in Rhino talking to my friend who works there, telling him about the Valkyrie Profile i found at EB games.after i told him my story he says to me that there buyer told them that he was trying to get both Valkyrie Profile and Suikoden 2 soon. i asked him how this could be and he told me they were reprints...like the persona 2 and tales of destiny they recently got...i know these rumors have been around the block a couple of times, but i dont think my friend would make this up. anybody else herd this lately? and what will this do the the price of the orignals?

[erehwon]

I know they're releasing Valkyrie Profile for the PSP. Maybe your friend was thinking of that.

[graboid9]

no...we were talking ps1..and it would be hard to belive if it wasnt for the other games they had already received brand new (persona 2 and a couple more).he mentioned to me something about copy rights being transfered to someone else. Im not saying that its true, im just wondering if anyone has herd anything like this recently.

[Ed Oscuro]

Something got lost in the communication with the "copyrights transferred." What's happened is that Sony stopped collecting royalties on PSOne games, so companies basically are free to reprint their PSOne games without needing to pay Sony.

I think it's great. I read about this possibility in the forums only a few weeks ago, and Suikoden II + VP were specifically mentioned as possibilities - ones that we wanted to see.

[graboid9]

that makes alot of sense...all profit for the game companies. ill be the first in line to buy. Do they have to change the cover or can they make an exact copy...with no way of knowing the new from the old?might be bad for the collectors but good for us that like to play the games they collect.

[Ed Oscuro]

I take it they'll still be able to use the PlayStation logo and everything. Sony (last time I checked) didn't own the disc manufacturing facilities stateside, so they can go to a non-Sony plant. As for the rest of the game art on the cover, it's owned by the publisher/developer themselves (whoever owns the rights to the game series, I'd imagine, in most cases).

[qbertandernie]

id rather see changed covers, makes it good for collectors who have the original version and good for people looking for the game to play, kinda like dragonball GT(though i know that did affect prices of the original).

[Ed Oscuro]

id rather see changed covers, makes it good for collectors who have the original version and good for people looking for the game to play, kinda like dragonball GT(though i know that did affect prices of the original).
Yes. I'm aware that I get it easy here, so I hope collectors/sellers get a soft landing here...but a landing, nevertheless, because I want an original :D

[roushimsx]

Awesome news. I'd totally buy a second copy of the game just to support its reprinting. I really do hope that they keep the same cover art but just change the copyright date or Enix America to SquareEnix or something. The original coverart looked great.

In fact, here's a little love fresh from my scanner:
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[Darren870]

My friend who manages a gamestop was going on about how he found one at his store. So im going to say its true and came in shipment.

[Lothars]

I really hope they rerelease it

I've been wanting to get them for the longest time but holding off just in case though it's all good

[PapaStu]

From what i've been told, Sony actually produced the first runs of the PS games. The masters had to go thru Sony for approval and then went on to production and then out to the vendors ect who bought them.

It seems kinda silly to go and re-release these games since they are both on slate for PSP releases and they are clamoring for new PSP releases that will not only sell good quantities of games, but move units as well. The system right now is still really weak on the RPG front.

If anything I'd expect the PSP releases before you see these random Konami/Squareenix releases.

And a note for those that hope should this release that something change. It wont. None of the re-releases had any changes at all to them. No new PSRM#'s (sony's licensing numbers) no new or edited copywrite dates and when they re-did DBGT:Final Bout, Atari (who has all the DBZ licensing now) didn't even bother to change ANYTHING in the game other than the art. It still says BanDai for the title screen and doesnt mention Atari anywhere in the game.

[Haoie]

I still think it's just a rumour. You can be optimistic all you want.

[MrSmiley381]

I hope this is true. Oh man, I hope this is very true. This means I can get Valkyrie Profile a lot cheaper now.

[Aussie2B]

I've been hearing this rumor for months now, and I've still yet to see anything that would even suggest that it would be legit. I still say it's a case of wishful thinking that's gotten out-of-hand.

I have to ditto PapaStu; we're more likely to see the PSP ports than re-releases.

[The Manimal]

i passed on valkyrie profile and now regret it :(

[Griking]

Did you hear that?

It was the sound of a couple hundred PS1 collectors who just learned that the uber rare PS1 game they paid hundreds for will soon be worth about $39.99. LOL

It should be fun watching eBay the next few weeks to see how many people panic and rush to unload their copies before the crash.

[Zing]

Persona 2 was reprinted, along with several other "R@RE L@@K" games, such as Rhapsody and Rez.

Please, for the love of all that is good, let these rumors die. People can hope all they want, it isn't going to happen.

[Aussie2B]

What's this about Tales of Destiny anyway? I don't see any indication that more have been reprinted or turned up. I don't even see any sealed copies on eBay.

Has the stance of the community's PlayStation experts changed to that Persona 2 and Rhapsody were reprinted, or is it still considered that they must be refurbished?

[Geddon_jt]

You know, maybe I've just been into games too long. Back when these games came out, I remember that there was NO shortage of them. I distinctly remember being in best buy months after suikoden 2 came out and they must have had over a dozen new copies on display! Same with Valkyrie profile. The media play near where I used to live had new copies for at least a year after release. I guess my point is, these games were readily available for a long time - I wouldn't say they were underprinted, and they certainly aren't "rare" games. Some games come out and after the first shipment, vanish forever. Is it people who are newer to the hobby who are so after these games? Or people who just put off getting them? They are certainly super hot nowadays and everyone seems to want them.

*sigh* Oh well. Just thought I would add my 2 cents.

[Aussie2B]

Well, I don't think anyone is saying that they're extremely rare games, just that they're rare enough to cause a problem when there isn't a large enough supply for everyone who wants a copy (which can be partially blamed on the fact that they're very good games and most fans wouldn't want to part with their copies). However, for what it's worth, I had a hell of a time finding Valkyrie Profile. I decided to buy it only a couple months after it had come out, and I called up several stores and none of them had ANY copies. Finally, when I was down to pretty much my last option short of really going out of my way to find it, a small independent store had it, and as far as I know, it may have been the very last copy they had. In comparison, Suikoden II was infinitely more easy for me to find. I didn't buy it back then (I'm fortunate that my boyfriend has it), but I saw a handful of copies in all the mainstream stores. Not sure how long they were around after the release, though.

Oh, and just to throw a number up here, tri-Ace officially stated that their US sales of Valkyrie Profile was 73,000 copies, which is absolutely piddly compared to the US sales of their other PlayStation release, Star Ocean: The Second Story, and I imagine the sales are small compared to any other highly-regarded PlayStation RPG. While this wouldn't matter if it was Granstream Saga we were talking about, it really becomes difficult when it's an excellent game that more and more people are learning of.

[Geddon_jt]

Well, I don't think anyone is saying that they're extremely rare games, just that they're rare enough to cause a problem when there isn't a large enough supply for everyone who wants a copy (which can be partially blamed on the fact that they're very good games and most fans wouldn't want to part with their copies). However, for what it's worth, I had a hell of a time finding Valkyrie Profile. I decided to buy it only a couple months after it had come out, and I called up several stores and none of them had ANY copies. Finally, when I was down to pretty much my last option short of really going out of my way to find it, a small independent store had it, and as far as I know, it may have been the very last copy they had. In comparison, Suikoden II was infinitely more easy for me to find. I didn't buy it back then (I'm fortunate that my boyfriend has it), but I saw a handful of copies in all the mainstream stores. Not sure how long they were around after the release, though.

Oh, and just to throw a number up here, tri-Ace officially stated that their US sales of Valkyrie Profile was 73,000 copies, which is absolutely piddly compared to the US sales of their other PlayStation release, Star Ocean: The Second Story, and I imagine the sales are small compared to any other highly-regarded PlayStation RPG. While this wouldn't matter if it was Granstream Saga we were talking about, it really becomes difficult when it's an excellent game that more and more people are learning of.

Yeah. Maybe it was just a local thing for me.
It's just wierd, I guess. I have distinct memories of seeing those games everywhere and thinking, "nobody is buying these games." LOL You're right, though - 73,000 is rather "piddly."

[kevincure]

73000 sounds about right to me. This actually isn't that low of a total - there are a good bunch of US PSX games that sold less than 10000!

[MrSmiley381]

Ogre Battle on the SNES only sold about 50000, so I'd say that a game that could be considered superior by many would sell for some more.

I, however, have BitTorrent and a Playstation emulator. I won't say anything, but I'll leave it at "Hey, if I had $100, I would still plop it down."

[googlefest1]

i hope this is true - and i hope this means they will be re-releaseing more titles - but i realy hope they use diferent covers - like mabey something with just text on it

it sucks for the games i DO own but its great for the games i dont have - but my biggest gripe if the Fin price - $40 for a PS1 game comon all ready.

they should do a campy revival mimiking ataris one -- selling new systems with a "Under 50 bucks, 50 bucks" song - and release games for 15$ -- but alas that would never come true

[Damion]

honestly if I heard they were Reprinting Panzer Dragoon Saga or Dragon Force I would bat an eye. though I'm a collector I would find it hearting to know that more people would get a chance to play a great game.

After all those games as well as the ones mentioned are in need of a reprint or remake. there great games and people need to play them NEEEED!

Course the minute I heard that a reprint was true it would be sold in a BIN on ebay for as much as I could get LOL

[Blitzwing256]

they should do a campy revival mimiking ataris one -- selling new systems with a "Under 50 bucks, 50 bucks" song - and release games for 15$ -- but alas that would never come true

*Cough*majesco snes/genesis *cough* *cough*

could happen :-)

[roushimsx]

they should do a campy revival mimiking ataris one -- selling new systems with a "Under 50 bucks, 50 bucks" song - and release games for 15$ -- but alas that would never come true

On a tangent, does anyone have a nice quality capture of that commercial? We were joking around about it at work the other day and I've never been able to find a decent video of it (just some obscenely low quality 5th generation SLP VHS captures in poorly encoded mono audio in obscenely low quality RM or ASF format).

[scorch56]

And a note for those that hope should this release that something change. It wont. None of the re-releases had any changes at all to them. No new PSRM#'s (sony's licensing numbers) no new or edited copywrite dates and when they re-did DBGT:Final Bout, Atari (who has all the DBZ licensing now) didn't even bother to change ANYTHING in the game other than the art. It still says BanDai for the title screen and doesnt mention Atari anywhere in the game.

That's what I figured. Anybody who recently bought a "new" Persona 2 can confirm this?.. but I heard the rereleases came with the 2nd bonus disc and inner pamphlet that the original 2-disc set had.

I've heard that the only way to tell the new releases from an old one (in shrink-wrapped ones anyway) is the absence of the "title strip tape" that sealed the top of each jewel case.. they're not on the rereleases is what I heard. Which means if you have "used" original copies like I do.. you're screwed.

But basically.. I don't care.. nor will I shed a tear for the "top dollars" I paid for some of these games. Like I said in the previous discussion.. I bought the games in the past.. I wanted them then.. stick a fork in it. Sorry to disappoint some.. but on that note.. if all of this is true.. I AM looking forward to a $29.95 copy of Valkyrie Profile. ;)

[MrSmiley381]

From what I can tell, there's nothing to indicate it's a rerelease of Persona 2 I have. Of course it is, but there's nothing to really prove it other than the fact that my local Babbage's got a million of 'em.