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Anthony1
01-12-2006, 04:52 PM
I'm thinking of buying a Neo-Geo AES at some point in the near future. I just think it would be sweet to hook it up to a RGB monitor and play stuff like Magician Lord and stuff like that. I know it's incredible expensive, but I'm just thinking it will be a sweet experience.


Now, I know that there is alot of debate out there as to what type of Neo-Geo one should buy. I know that I want the actual cartridge system, an actual AES system, but I don't know what kind of mods that I want for it, or an updated bios or all of that stuff. I was wondering if somebody could give me the low down.


Basically, all I want is the system itself, a power plug, for the video cable I'm going to use a RGB cable instead. What kind of Video Out is on the back of it? It's the same as the Model 1 Genesis right? I've always heard that you can use a RGB cable from a Model 1 Genny. Does the audio/video output plug provide stereo sound? I've heard people mention having a mod done for audio outputs on the back, and I didn't understand why. What's the deal about the bios?


What kind of power supply does it use? Can I use a Model 1 Genesis power supply with it?


Basically, I'm trying to find out if there is something that I should definitely know before buying one, before I make a big mistake. Also, as for carts, I just want one decent game to play with it. Like Magician Lord. Back in the day, I had Cyber-Lip, Super Baseball 2020 and a couple of other games.


Anyways, I'm just wondering if there are any specific things I should know before heading down this path.

tholly
01-12-2006, 05:50 PM
you should probably start researching by using the search feature on this forum or go to www.neo-geo.com

find out as much as you can that way, and then ask what is still confusing....

CosmicMonkey
01-12-2006, 06:12 PM
Indeed, the unit has the same A/V out as a Megadrive, so you're fine to use a MD RGB Scart lead with it. However, around the time of the 3rd MoBo revision, SNK decided to alter the video output of the AES. This results in the unit displaying a better composite picture, but makes the RGB output worse. Therefore if you want an AES to run via RGB, you want a serial number of 90,000 or less.

The other mods you've seen are 'Mega Neos'. An AES that's been modded with a power light in the reset button, UniBIOS, rear stereo L/R, component, S-Vid. Normally, you can only get rgb/composite/mono sound from the A/V out, and stereo from the front headphone jack, just for comparison.

oh, and a fully modded Mega Neo is damn expensive too.

Cue my standard MVS argument:

Get an MVS and build/buy a Supergun. If you get a MoBo that has pad sockets already on it, you dont even need a Supergun. Literally wire in a 5pin DIN socket for your Jameco SC200 PSU via a DPST power switch (solder stright to JAMMA connector) and wire in one 8pin DIN for video/stereo output. And that's it. Welcome to the world of cheap Neo Geo games. Oh, and this is definately worth a UniBIOS mod. You'll be able to switch the MVS system into AES mode, so you play the home versions of the games off the MVS carts.

If money is no object, then fair enough, go for an AES. But put it like this: Metal Slug is a damn excellent game. One of my favorites in fact. Would I pay $3000 for a copy? No. Mine cost £20, plus £10 for Shockbox and insert. Plus the effort of consolizing an MVS. Exactly the same game, but a difference of well, $3000.

You decide......

Ed Oscuro
01-12-2006, 06:12 PM
It's a sad day when somebody loses their Neo Geo's PSU. It's a worthwhile question, but I doubt you can (I might as well take a look at it, though).

Sorry to say the sub-$100 dollar game selection's a bit limited, but there still are some great titles on that list. I'd say Cyber-Lip is a must-have, myself, and so is Sengoku...if you want to really limit how much you're spending (Metal Slug - any of them - and Sengoku 2 are much better than these early efforts, but they're still worthwhile).

Tron 2.0
01-13-2006, 02:32 AM
Cue my standard MVS argument:

Get an MVS and build/buy a Supergun. If you get a MoBo that has pad sockets already on it, you dont even need a Supergun. Literally wire in a 5pin DIN socket for your Jameco SC200 PSU via a DPST power switch (solder stright to JAMMA connector) and wire in one 8pin DIN for video/stereo output. And that's it. Welcome to the world of cheap Neo Geo games. Oh, and this is definitely worth a UniBIOS mod. You'll be able to switch the MVS system into AES mode, so you play the home versions of the games off the MVS carts.

If money is no object, then fair enough, go for an AES. But put it like this: Metal Slug is a damn excellent game. One of my favorites in fact. Would I pay $3000 for a copy? No. Mine cost £20, plus £10 for Shockbox and insert. Plus the effort of consolizing an MVS. Exactly the same game, but a difference of well, $3000.

You decide......
There ya go MVS or nothing ;)

Only pick, AES if your realy well off and you don't mind spending a fortune for it.

As for me i'm just happy with.. my cmvs 2 slot it has save me a lot of "money" on games :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/MetalSlug01/GreenMVS.png

XianXi
01-13-2006, 03:19 AM
Get the AES
Install a Neobitz (http://www.neobitz.com) board (S-Vid, composite and RGB outputs all in one mod)
Do Stereo Mod at the same time as installing your Neobitz board
Get Unibios from Razoola (Go to Neo Geo forums)

Get some games maybe a P-1 or the new convertor from Neo Flash that is supposed to play all titles on the MVS as well as the titles that the Phantom-1 couldn't play properly.

You can either get an AES mod kit and modify your AES that way or get the Neobitz board which I recommend because it is WAY easier to install and WAY cleaner looking.

Captain Wrong
01-13-2006, 08:34 AM
you should probably start researching by using the search feature on this forum or go to www.neo-geo.com

find out as much as you can that way, and then ask what is still confusing....

Seriously. There's a ton of Neo info out there.

Nez
01-13-2006, 10:50 AM
Get the AES
Install a Neobitz (http://www.neobitz.com) board (S-Vid, composite and RGB outputs all in one mod)
Do Stereo Mod at the same time as installing your Neobitz board
Get Unibios from Razoola (Go to Neo Geo forums)

Get some games maybe a P-1 or the new convertor from Neo Flash that is supposed to play all titles on the MVS as well as the titles that the Phantom-1 couldn't play properly.

You can either get an AES mod kit and modify your AES that way or get the Neobitz board which I recommend because it is WAY easier to install and WAY cleaner looking.

Neo flash why havent I heard this before? Got any details?

Steempy
01-13-2006, 10:57 AM
Start by robbing a bank.

Sorry, had to post this after reading all the ridiculously helpful replies.

smokehouse
01-13-2006, 11:44 AM
I would seriously go with a MVS. No, it’s not nearly as pretty as a AES but it’s got it where it counts. Simply put it plays the same games and then some. First off there are same MVS only releases (not a ton but they do exist) and second the prices of the carts are MUCH lower. It makes games like Metal Slug affordable with a little saving.

Case in point, I had an AES and some games, I’m a big Samurai Showdown fan and had Samurai Showdown I-III. Sam Sho I was $20, II was 35 (for a Japanese cart) and III was $75 (again, Japanese cart). That’s $125 for I-III. I sold them and got Sam Sho I-IV for the MVS for $65. Half the $$ for 4 games and they play exactly the same, no difference. If I had wanted Sam Sho IV for the AES the price would have been $200+. In that one situation the MVS paid for itself.

And don’t get me started on the Metal Slug topic, let’s just say I have 1,2,3 and X and for THOSANDS less.

What it boils down to is that it's not a MVS-vs-AES thing, it's a how much do you want to pay thing. Figuring that the games are the same on both, the MVS seems to be the smarter choice.

XianXi
01-13-2006, 12:00 PM
Get the AES
Install a Neobitz (http://www.neobitz.com) board (S-Vid, composite and RGB outputs all in one mod)
Do Stereo Mod at the same time as installing your Neobitz board
Get Unibios from Razoola (Go to Neo Geo forums)

Get some games maybe a P-1 or the new convertor from Neo Flash that is supposed to play all titles on the MVS as well as the titles that the Phantom-1 couldn't play properly.

You can either get an AES mod kit and modify your AES that way or get the Neobitz board which I recommend because it is WAY easier to install and WAY cleaner looking.

Neo flash why havent I heard this before? Got any details?

They claim to play all MVS games with no problems and have set release for Q1 of this year. Price tag is about $299. If this is true I will sell my P-1 later on. I saw it on the Neo forums.

http://www.neoflash.com/img/NEO_MVS-04.JPG

XianXi
01-13-2006, 12:03 PM
I would seriously go with a MVS. No, it’s not nearly as pretty as a AES but it’s got it where it counts.

Not if you consolize a 1 slot into a Neo CD like oro on the Neo Forums, it looks sweet.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/necromutant/front.jpg

smokehouse
01-13-2006, 12:43 PM
Get the AES
Install a Neobitz (http://www.neobitz.com) board (S-Vid, composite and RGB outputs all in one mod)
Do Stereo Mod at the same time as installing your Neobitz board
Get Unibios from Razoola (Go to Neo Geo forums)

Get some games maybe a P-1 or the new convertor from Neo Flash that is supposed to play all titles on the MVS as well as the titles that the Phantom-1 couldn't play properly.

You can either get an AES mod kit and modify your AES that way or get the Neobitz board which I recommend because it is WAY easier to install and WAY cleaner looking.

Neo flash why havent I heard this before? Got any details?

They claim to play all MVS games with no problems and have set release for Q1 of this year. Price tag is about $299. If this is true I will sell my P-1 later on. I saw it on the Neo forums.

The problem is that you're still much more expensive than a consolized MVS. I got my fully consolized MVS (full audio outs, dual controller ports and S-vid out) with Universe Bios 2.1 and a large “old style” controller for under $400. To get an AES modded with a new bios, S-vid and stereo outs and that adapter you’re talking well over $500.

Here’s a pic of my MVS:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/smokehouse/neo%20review/MVS-system.jpg

Anthony1
01-13-2006, 04:48 PM
Man, at this point, I'm thinking I better just forget this altogether. Maybe get a Neo CD like I was originally planning. I'm a cheap ass bastard, and it appears that neither of those options would work for me. The way that I was originally going to play it, was to just get a Neo-Geo AES bare bones, (of course need a power supply and one original type controller) one game like Magician Lord or Cyber-Lip, and just play that until I'm bored with it, and then maybe even sell it off to somebody else. Basically, I just kinda want to rent one for a period of time.


Are there any decent carts under $100 ? I'm cool with some of the sports games too, like Super Baseball 2020 and stuff like that. How accurate is the DP guide for Neo-Geo carts?

Darren870
01-13-2006, 05:59 PM
Are there any decent carts under $100 ?

About 10 hehe.

I would do MVS or CD. I personally do AES, dont have all the goods in my AES like XianXi, but I do have a good amount of games. Bout 25 and let me tell you im already at like $3000 with that 25.

I really only buy games when I go to Japan, as they are much cheaper then what people charge online/ebay/forums

Once I finish my supergun and ill get an MVS board and start collecting MVS.

But for you, if your cheap and dont want to deal with load times get an MVS. If you like loading then go with a CD

Ed Oscuro
01-13-2006, 06:03 PM
I've got an AES, early model with the old fashioned video output. Mono sound sucks, but the video sharpness is pretty close to what I remember in the arcades (it's not very sharp at all, but that doesn't bug me). I don't think a mod is essential except for the stereo sound, myself.

I'm just getting the games first, anyway. Maybe one of these days I'll get one of our modding experts to hook me up with a "fully loaded" system.

XianXi
01-13-2006, 08:42 PM
If you are looking to save money then go MVS, I mean you can consolize one for around $200-300 very dependant on the cost of parts. Plus the games you can get from $10-90 each, average MVS cart price is around $20.

If you got DEEP pockets then go AES.

Luckily when I got my AES I got it with 6 games or so with the controller and hook ups for only $100, thats a steal.

Good luck in your quest.

tholly
01-13-2006, 09:52 PM
from what i have heard, the neo geo cd loads very slowly and can get annoying pretty quickly....i dont have one, so i have no personal experience with it.....

....also, arent the really good cd games still in the $70 to $100 range....i don't know why i think that, but i think i heard that.....

Anthony1
01-14-2006, 01:35 AM
It really probably makes sense for me to get a Neo CD, especially since I don't mind playing dubs. But for whatever reason, I just want the real original machine. Of course, the downside is that I have to spend alot of $$$$.


The game situation really wouldn't be a big deal, cause I would only go for games that are under $60 shipped. I know that this will severly limit the games that I could get, but that's fine, I can take my time with this system. The games that I would be interested in getting that are under $60 shipped are:


Magician Lord
Nam 1975
Blues Journey
Baseball Stars Professional
Ninja Combat
2020 Super Baseball
Top Players Golf
Alpha Mission 2
Thrash Rally
Cyber-Lip


and any other action type games that are under $60 shipped. I'm not really a fighting game guy, I don't mind Final Fight type games, but I'm not really into the straight up fighters. Which are the best games under $60 shipped that I'm leaving off the list?

XianXi
01-14-2006, 02:04 AM
It really probably makes sense for me to get a Neo CD, especially since I don't mind playing dubs. But for whatever reason, I just want the real original machine. Of course, the downside is that I have to spend alot of $$$$.


The game situation really wouldn't be a big deal, cause I would only go for games that are under $60 shipped. I know that this will severly limit the games that I could get, but that's fine, I can take my time with this system. The games that I would be interested in getting that are under $60 shipped are:


Magician Lord
Nam 1975
Blues Journey
Baseball Stars Professional
Ninja Combat
2020 Super Baseball
Top Players Golf
Alpha Mission 2
Thrash Rally
Cyber-Lip


and any other action type games that are under $60 shipped. I'm not really a fighting game guy, I don't mind Final Fight type games, but I'm not really into the straight up fighters. Which are the best games under $60 shipped that I'm leaving off the list?

I got my Metal Slug for $50. Other games that you might want to get are

Aero Fighters 2 & 3
Baseball Stars 2
Bust a Move
Magical Drop
Ghost Pilots
League Bowling
Super Sidekicks 1,2,3

You can get all these for $20 and under on ebay.

smokehouse
01-14-2006, 02:25 AM
It really probably makes sense for me to get a Neo CD, especially since I don't mind playing dubs. But for whatever reason, I just want the real original machine. Of course, the downside is that I have to spend alot of $$$$.


The game situation really wouldn't be a big deal, cause I would only go for games that are under $60 shipped. I know that this will severly limit the games that I could get, but that's fine, I can take my time with this system. The games that I would be interested in getting that are under $60 shipped are:


Magician Lord
Nam 1975
Blues Journey
Baseball Stars Professional
Ninja Combat
2020 Super Baseball
Top Players Golf
Alpha Mission 2
Thrash Rally
Cyber-Lip


and any other action type games that are under $60 shipped. I'm not really a fighting game guy, I don't mind Final Fight type games, but I'm not really into the straight up fighters. Which are the best games under $60 shipped that I'm leaving off the list?

I got my Metal Slug for $50. Other games that you might want to get are

Aero Fighters 2 & 3
Baseball Stars 2
Bust a Move
Magical Drop
Ghost Pilots
League Bowling
Super Sidekicks 1,2,3

You can get all these for $20 and under on ebay.

You got Metal Slug for the AES for $50?! Holy crap!

XianXi
01-14-2006, 02:31 AM
It really probably makes sense for me to get a Neo CD, especially since I don't mind playing dubs. But for whatever reason, I just want the real original machine. Of course, the downside is that I have to spend alot of $$$$.


The game situation really wouldn't be a big deal, cause I would only go for games that are under $60 shipped. I know that this will severly limit the games that I could get, but that's fine, I can take my time with this system. The games that I would be interested in getting that are under $60 shipped are:


Magician Lord
Nam 1975
Blues Journey
Baseball Stars Professional
Ninja Combat
2020 Super Baseball
Top Players Golf
Alpha Mission 2
Thrash Rally
Cyber-Lip


and any other action type games that are under $60 shipped. I'm not really a fighting game guy, I don't mind Final Fight type games, but I'm not really into the straight up fighters. Which are the best games under $60 shipped that I'm leaving off the list?

I got my Metal Slug for $50. Other games that you might want to get are

Aero Fighters 2 & 3
Baseball Stars 2
Bust a Move
Magical Drop
Ghost Pilots
League Bowling
Super Sidekicks 1,2,3

You can get all these for $20 and under on ebay.

You got Metal Slug for the AES for $50?! Holy crap!

LOL I wish, Neo CD.

Anthony1
01-14-2006, 02:35 AM
Aero Fighters 2 & 3
Baseball Stars 2
Bust a Move
Magical Drop
Ghost Pilots
League Bowling
Super Sidekicks 1,2,3

You can get all these for $20 and under on ebay.


I can get those games for $20 and under on Ebay? For real? You're talking about AES carts right? Are they counterfeit carts or something? I didn't know any Neo Geo AES carts sold for $20

smokehouse
01-14-2006, 03:04 AM
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick but there's no way in hell you're picking any of those listed titles for $20. These are quotes taken straight from the Neo Geo web site’s pricing guide:

Aero Fighters 2&3 ($90/150 low end)
Baseball Stars 2 ($70 low end)
Bust a Move- Never released on the AES.
Magical Drop (2 goes for $380, 3 for $420) There is no Magical Drop 1.
Ghost Pilots ($50 low end)
League Bowling ($50 low end)
Super Sidekicks 1,2,3 ($30/40/65 low end)

There is no way you’re getting anything other than possibly Super Sidekicks for $20.

Darren870
01-14-2006, 03:15 AM
I think he ment cd when he told you games less then $20.

If your not into fighting games get a cd. That is if loading isnt a big deal. Otherwise go MVS. There is no point in investing lots of $$ in an AES when its a big fighter system.

Nez
01-14-2006, 05:28 AM
Aero Fighters 2 & 3
Baseball Stars 2
Bust a Move
Magical Drop
Ghost Pilots
League Bowling
Super Sidekicks 1,2,3

You can get all these for $20 and under on ebay.


I can get those games for $20 and under on Ebay? For real? You're talking about AES carts right? Are they counterfeit carts or something? I didn't know any Neo Geo AES carts sold for $20

He ment neocd

I paid 225 shipped for my us neo with 2 controllers and 3 US games SS SS2 and KOF 94 all complete.

The neo is not all that horribly expensive heres some neo titles that I purchased for under $100.

DT= Dogtag
(C)= complete

US games

Art of fighting $30 DT (C)
Burning FIght $20 DT (C)
Fatal Fury $25 DT (C)
Fatal Fury free euro (missing manual)
Football Frenzy $25 DT (missing manual)
Ghost Pilots $20 DT (missing manual)
Legue Bowling $60 DT (C)
Mutation Nation $35? DT (C) I forgot what I paid for it
Super Basball 2020 $25 DT (C)
Samuri Showdown (C) came with my neo
Samuri Showdown 2 DT (C) came with my neo
World Heros 2 Jet $35 DT (missing manual)
Fatal Fury special $30 (C)
KOF 94 (C) came with neo
Basball Stars $25 (C)
Magician Lord $20 (C)
Ninja Combat $15 (C)
Riding Hero $20 (C)
Sengoku $35 euro (C)
Super Spy $25 (C)
Top Players Golf $25 (C)
KOF 2000 $80 US* (C)

Japan Imports
KOF 96 $68 (C)
KOF 98 $85 (missing booklet and manual)
Realbout Fatal Fury $80 (C)
Last Blade $80 (missing manual and original case) Had to buy another snap lock case that cost me $20.

So no the neo isn't THAT expensive its about the price of current gen games. If you look hard on ebay you will find good deals you just need patience.

Darren870
01-14-2006, 10:32 AM
So no the neo isn't THAT expensive its about the price of current gen games. If you look hard on ebay you will find good deals you just need patience.


Yea but I would say most those games that you listed are much less quality the the ones over $100. And if you want something truly amazing you better be ready to fork over the cash.

omnedon
01-14-2006, 12:47 PM
If saving money is all:

1) get a consolized MVS contraption** and rig it how you like

2) Get a Neo CD and be prepared to watch a lot of load screens, and be prepared to have many titles unavailable for purchase at any price

3) Use your Xbox Anthony1! LOL

If style, looks and AESthetics matter at all, go AES. Slickest game console ever, the Lamborghini Countach of game consoles. It's lines scream POWER.


http://www.oldschoolgamer.ca/syspics/12-56.jpg

If you want to use RGB, you can skip most all mods (though a socketed BIOS mod is killer). You can pull great stereo from the front headphone jack with a ratshack cable, and RGB out the back, with the right cable.

Personally, I solved the $3000 Metal Slug issue with a Phantom-1 adapter. I can play titles on ANY format I choose, unlike consolized MVS owners. There are threads at Neo-geo.com right now about MVS only'ers trying to find Samurai Shodown V Special at any sort of reasonable price. I've been playing it since launch on AES. 8-) And it's worth more now, than it was when I bought it. LOL


Now, now MVS owners, I'm not starting a flame war. I've seen and used consolized MVS's. I've seen fantastic ones. That does not change the fact that they are aracde hardware modified and shoe-horned into something. Nothing wrong with custom stuff, if you like that sort of thing. I don't, it's not to my personal taste. MVS in an arcade cabinet, that's different. I like that a lot.

MVS is more practical hands down. But unlike what most will tell you, it is possible to go with sleek AESthetic AES, if you make your compromises in the right way.

I love my AES. It is the king of my console collection. My modded Xbox is cool, my Xbox 360 is cool, but my AES has a coolness nothing else can touch. When it boots up, it makes you feel like no other console can.

XianXi
01-14-2006, 01:05 PM
When it boots up, it makes you feel like no other console can.

You got that right. I wish I had an AES when there were motherloads of MVS cabs all over. I would have brought my memory card with me everywhere. I thought it was so cool when this japanese guy would come to the arcade and put in a memory card when he was playing some neo geo games, then we ask him what its for and he says "I can finish the rest of the game at home". We were like that's nuts.

Anthony1
02-05-2006, 02:12 AM
Man, it's been brutal out there for me to find an American Neo-Geo. There just isn't much on Ebay, and I haven't seen anybody selling them in the Buying and Selling forum here. I bought four AES games awhile back, (why I bought them when I don't have a AES yet, don't ask me) and they are just sitting in my room, mocking me. I've seen quite a few Japanese Neo-Geo's on Ebay, but some of them are kinda shady. I'm not sure if I would want a Japanese system. I prefer the words to show up as English.



For those of you that do have Japanese AES systems, what are the changes when you are playing games like Magician Lord, Nam 75, Cyber-Lip, 2020 Super Baseball, Baseball Stars 2, etc, etc,. (I'm not really into fighers)? Are the title screens and menus all in Japanese? Or does the game basically look the same? I don't know why, but for whatever reason, I just feel like I would rather have an american version Neo.


The other thing I have to deal with, is the whole serial number thing. Whenever I finally actually get a Neo-Geo, I'm going to be playing it on a RGB monitor. So it's absolutely critical that I get one that has a decent RGB output. Unfortunately, it appears that it's very dependant on the particular serial number that you get. Regarding the serial number, I've heard a number of recomendations, and they have varied quite a bit, which leaves me even more confused. :(

Shawn Carr2o
02-05-2006, 04:40 AM
Man, it's been brutal out there for me to find an American Neo-Geo. There just isn't much on Ebay, and I haven't seen anybody selling them in the Buying and Selling forum here. I bought four AES games awhile back, (why I bought them when I don't have a AES yet, don't ask me) and they are just sitting in my room, mocking me. I've seen quite a few Japanese Neo-Geo's on Ebay, but some of them are kinda shady. I'm not sure if I would want a Japanese system. I prefer the words to show up as English.



For those of you that do have Japanese AES systems, what are the changes when you are playing games like Magician Lord, Nam 75, Cyber-Lip, 2020 Super Baseball, Baseball Stars 2, etc, etc,. (I'm not really into fighers)? Are the title screens and menus all in Japanese? Or does the game basically look the same? I don't know why, but for whatever reason, I just feel like I would rather have an american version Neo.


The other thing I have to deal with, is the whole serial number thing. Whenever I finally actually get a Neo-Geo, I'm going to be playing it on a RGB monitor. So it's absolutely critical that I get one that has a decent RGB output. Unfortunately, it appears that it's very dependant on the particular serial number that you get. Regarding the serial number, I've heard a number of recomendations, and they have varied quite a bit, which leaves me even more confused. :(


You should get a Consolized 2-slot, 4-slot or 6-slot MVS motherboard to play Neo Geo MVS carts and they are much cheaper than the AES system and AES game carts. :) ;)

Darren870
02-05-2006, 09:23 AM
Man, it's been brutal out there for me to find an American Neo-Geo. There just isn't much on Ebay, and I haven't seen anybody selling them in the Buying and Selling forum here. I bought four AES games awhile back, (why I bought them when I don't have a AES yet, don't ask me) and they are just sitting in my room, mocking me. I've seen quite a few Japanese Neo-Geo's on Ebay, but some of them are kinda shady. I'm not sure if I would want a Japanese system. I prefer the words to show up as English.



For those of you that do have Japanese AES systems, what are the changes when you are playing games like Magician Lord, Nam 75, Cyber-Lip, 2020 Super Baseball, Baseball Stars 2, etc, etc,. (I'm not really into fighers)? Are the title screens and menus all in Japanese? Or does the game basically look the same? I don't know why, but for whatever reason, I just feel like I would rather have an american version Neo.


The other thing I have to deal with, is the whole serial number thing. Whenever I finally actually get a Neo-Geo, I'm going to be playing it on a RGB monitor. So it's absolutely critical that I get one that has a decent RGB output. Unfortunately, it appears that it's very dependant on the particular serial number that you get. Regarding the serial number, I've heard a number of recomendations, and they have varied quite a bit, which leaves me even more confused. :(


Im selling a lot of my JP games and my JP system (soon). I've never had a problem understanding anything and in a lot of the games you can go to the options menu and switch it to english. English games are a lot more expensive then JP games just so you know.

XianXi
02-05-2006, 12:47 PM
Man, it's been brutal out there for me to find an American Neo-Geo. There just isn't much on Ebay, and I haven't seen anybody selling them in the Buying and Selling forum here. I bought four AES games awhile back, (why I bought them when I don't have a AES yet, don't ask me) and they are just sitting in my room, mocking me. I've seen quite a few Japanese Neo-Geo's on Ebay, but some of them are kinda shady. I'm not sure if I would want a Japanese system. I prefer the words to show up as English.



For those of you that do have Japanese AES systems, what are the changes when you are playing games like Magician Lord, Nam 75, Cyber-Lip, 2020 Super Baseball, Baseball Stars 2, etc, etc,. (I'm not really into fighers)? Are the title screens and menus all in Japanese? Or does the game basically look the same? I don't know why, but for whatever reason, I just feel like I would rather have an american version Neo.


The other thing I have to deal with, is the whole serial number thing. Whenever I finally actually get a Neo-Geo, I'm going to be playing it on a RGB monitor. So it's absolutely critical that I get one that has a decent RGB output. Unfortunately, it appears that it's very dependant on the particular serial number that you get. Regarding the serial number, I've heard a number of recomendations, and they have varied quite a bit, which leaves me even more confused. :(


Im selling a lot of my JP games and my JP system (soon). I've never had a problem understanding anything and in a lot of the games you can go to the options menu and switch it to english. English games are a lot more expensive then JP games just so you know.

Also if you didn't understand what Darren just said, both Japanese and US games have both languages and you can switch between them. Only difference between the systems is that when you play a game on a japanese system it chooses japanese for you as a default and the same with a european and US model.

Also the thing with the RGB, to me it doesnt matter. I have a 58,xxx model and the RGB is excellent. I dont really know how much better it's gonna get with a certain serial series but its awesome right now.

Hope that helps Anthony. I know it is a tough choice for you but be paitient like I said.

EnzoSangiorgio
02-05-2006, 09:03 PM
I've just been getting back into Neo stuff (after selling everything off a bit ago).
I took a different route between MVS and AES.
About 6 months ago I bought a 1 slot Neo Geo MVS Cab for $300. I had Metal Slug (the only game I kept) which I bought for $30.
This is what I've recently bought:
$200 Complete AES system with Unibios and a Pro stick.
$100 Metal Slug AES Conversion Cart (didn't need it, but it was cool, so I picked it up)
$25 Samurai Spirits 2
$60 Magician Lord New (at Digital Press)
$24 Fatal Fury Special
$45 Ghost Pilots New
$20 King of Fighters 94
$50 Cyber-Lip
$35 King of the Monsters
$18 World Heroes 2
(All Complete)

For MVS, I've gotten
$50 Shock Troopers 2nd Squad (with shockbox)
$20 Real Bout 2 (with shockbox)
$35 Last Blade 2
$45 Metal Slug X
$55 Metal Slug 3
$50 Prehistoric Isle 2
$25 Nam 1975 (from Digital Press)

Obviously depending on your budget, the games you can buy vary a lot between formats.
I could have gotten some of the AES games I got on MVS for a bit less, but that's the (VERY cheap) collector in me. The cases, the carts, the manuals, all are very cool, especially if you're into Neo Geo stuff.
Plus the home system looks damn awesome.

Nez
02-05-2006, 11:53 PM
I have a modded jap system for sale with debug bios and composite modding. Its a good system no problems with it other then thes video modd that only shows b + w now.

XianXi
02-06-2006, 10:54 AM
Anthony just found a site for info fo you regarding the serial # thing.

http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

Darren870
02-06-2006, 11:27 AM
Id still go with a coinalized MVS. Sure AES may look better, but you can just make inserts and buy the cases for your MVS games to make them look just as nice. Then customize your MVS anyway you want.

Though I have and collect for both, MVS is just so much cheaper.

XianXi
02-06-2006, 05:10 PM
Though I have and collect for both, MVS is just so much cheaper.

I also collect for both but I really only buy MVS games since the games I want are WAY cheaper on MVS. I plan on consolizing an MVS later once I get a good deal on a 1 or 2 slot.

jajaja
02-06-2006, 05:27 PM
MVS are cool and all (and cheaper of coure). But hell, AES looks so much better :)

Darren870
02-06-2006, 07:07 PM
MVS are cool and all (and cheaper of coure). But hell, AES looks so much better :)


But you can just make a case for it that looks like an AES case. They blend in perfectly with the AES games. Its just when you pull it out is it ugly.

Anthony1
02-06-2006, 08:43 PM
Anthony just found a site for info fo you regarding the serial # thing.

http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/



Wow, that's some detailed info there. Thanks bro.

Anthony1
02-06-2006, 08:47 PM
I have a 58,xxx model and the RGB is excellent.



I'm not sure I follow what you mean by 58,xxx ? You are using your Geo on an actual RGB monitor with a custom RGB cable?

tholly
02-06-2006, 08:50 PM
I have a 58,xxx model and the RGB is excellent.



I'm not sure I follow what you mean by 58,xxx ? You are using your Geo on an actual RGB monitor with a custom RGB cable?

xxx can be any 3 numbers, like 58,247, so his serial number is somewhere in between 58,000 and 58,999