Look to stickies for the Top 100 thread!

[THATinkjar]

Urgh! Why was this JUST stickied? I don't have time to compile my list now!

Darrrn it.

I can't wait to see the final list, though.

[AB Positive]

Urgh! Why was this JUST stickied? I don't have time to compile my list now!

Darrrn it.

I can't wait to see the final list, though.

Well, it was stickied in Classic Gaming the whole time, but I figured an announcement now would get the stragglers.

You have until midnight tonight, you can do it ;)

-AB+

[Jibbajaba]

Midnight east coast or midnight west coast? I REALLY want to submit my list, but I dunno if I can make it by 9PM. My fault though for putting it off.

Chris

[AB Positive]

Ah hell, I'll make it midnight PST just to give some of ye an extension ;)

...not that I didn't do that all the time in high school either :D

-AB+

[zerohero]

Can't wait to see the results ;)

[hezeuschrist]

Ah hell, I'll make it midnight PST just to give some of ye an extension ;)

...not that I didn't do that all the time in high school either :D

-AB+

AWESOME. I just saw this and I'm at work until Midnight. I don't really do a damn thing at work though, so I'll be able to chunk through some of this before I leave tonight.

The easiest way I've thought about doing this is just by how much sheer enjoyment I've recieved from any game, ever. Even though you'd never find and EverQuest icon on my desktop, or even any of the physical games (threw them away a while ago), it's easily taking my #1 spot. Any game that can entertain me for 3000 hours is special, something fierce.

Putting it in that light, it'll be pretty easy. Even though I've only ever played through FFII maybe 4 times and other RPG's have definitely commanded more of my time, it's definitely the one I enjoy the most.

Yeah, this'll be easy and will give me something to do for the rest of my shift. Awesome.

[Rogmeister]

I finally sent mine out...about 5 minutes ago, still before midnight in the Eastern time zone. I asked if I'd get a special prize for being last but now it sounds like I may not even be the last one to submit one. Ah well...I just typed it out ratta-tat-tat...no time to think, just type 'em up and send 'em out.

Type 'em up...send 'em out!

Isn't that the way "Rawhide" started? :D

[ChronoTriggaFoo]

Just sent mine...and I have this feeling that I left out an awesome game or two!

Oh well, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE LIST!

[FantasiaWHT]

It's February now! WHERE'S THE LIST!?!?!?!

Just kidding, but I am excited to see it! Can't wait until it comes out.

[AB Positive]

EMAILING CLOSED!

Thanks to Kubuntu killing my comp, calculations will have to be done on my windows machine (ugh) which will take a bit longer until good ol' Deep Thought comes back online.

Stay tuned for the list!

-AB+

[googlefest1]

calculations? what the heck are you doing finite element analysis? LOL

run it over to the university and have SAL 9000 take a crack at it ! If she can't do it were lost !

[FireMillen]

alright i'm literally dying here. *impatient* :D

[Teknik_SE-R]

yeah, I'm getting impatient myself.

BTW couldn't you put everyone's lists into an array in C or matlab and rank them according to their address?

i.e. each column is a different person's list and corresponds to a score array, row 1 woudl be the top picks and be given a score of 25 in a scores array.

so list[1,#]= scores[1,#] ==25,
list[2,#]= scores[2,#]==24
etc

Then you could construct setup a scoring count in a "for" with embedded "if" statements. the for statement is a reference cell content, and the embedded if statement(s) compare the reference cells value (a game name) to that of the next column's values (game names in the next list), if the values (game names) are the same then their corresponding scores are added together and put into a third array for total scores.

it might be a pain in the butt to standardize each list, but it might be worth it. you could even use the DP online guide numbers as their names to make it easy. (this would have been a heck of alot easier if each individual had done this in the first place)

I don't remember my code very well, and what I have above probably doesn't make any sense whatsoever, but I know someone around here could write a code to add the scores up quickly.

anyway HURRY UP!

[zerohero]

Common, I wanna see what the number 1 game on this forum ;)

[FireMillen]

Common, I wanna see what the number 1 game on this forum ;)

Its gotta be Legend of Zelda, right? or maybe Frogs 'n Flies.....

[Anthony1]

Maybe everybody should give their best guess on what game ends up No.1 overall



My guess is..... Super Mario Bros. 3

[petewhitley]

I'll hazard a guess for Super Mario Bros. (the first).

[Austin]

I'm willing to wait. Eager to see the lists, though... I have a feeling we'll see a lot more PC games than we're expecting.

My guess for #1? I'd probably say Legend of Zelda. It didn't make my list... but I have a feeling.

Which reminds me... I totally forgot Link to the Past on my list. :(

[Jibbajaba]

I had I think 7 PC games on my list. And I think SMB will be #1 as well, but we will see.

It was hard making a top 25 list, because I had to leave some of my favorites off the list. It would have been easier to make a top 50, but then I think I would have included some questionable games. Top 25 made you really make some tough choices, which is good.

Chris

[Hypnotuba]

I'm excited to see the results, too, but we must have patience! :)

Plus, I think AB Positive said he was going to have a tiny little write up for the Top 100 games, so, that'll take a while.

[classicb]

I think #1 will be Tecmo Super Bowl for the NES but who knows maybe it will be Wall Street Kid I guess we'll all have to wait.

[AB Positive]

I'm excited to see the results, too, but we must have patience! :)

Plus, I think AB Positive said he was going to have a tiny little write up for the Top 100 games, so, that'll take a while.

The force is strong with this one. So please, a little patience will help this along :)

Remember, besides the writeup there will be the full every-game-on-the-list showing at the end just so you can see where (and if) your favorite games placed!

-AB+

[googlefest1]

my guess the number 1 game will be a mario game or zelda

both of which didnt make it on my list of only 25

star control 2 was my number 1

[Fuyukaze]

I have consulted the all knowing magic 8 ball and it says the number 1 game on everyone's list will be Pac-Man for the 2600. It says the number 2 game on it will be ET for same system. I asked if any Square titles would make the list and after many questions, it will be on the list, as mystic quest made it at 24.

[calthaer]

I'm not 100% positive about Mario or Zelda myself. I don't think the original Mario or Zelda made it on my list at all, although I put later iterations of those games on my list - but only ONE of each, and not even in the top 5-10, I don't believe.

[Jibbajaba]

Halo will be #1
GTAIII will be #2

Oh wait, this isn't gamefaqs.

Googlefest, I love you.

Chris

[qaotik]

While I don't know how you're doing the counting It would be great to find your 'gaming buddy' match based on your top5 or for specific games.

[googlefest1]

hey, come now Pontif, we dont want this to become the latest church gosip now do we?

[Ninja Blacksox]

If "Baseball Stars" doesn't make the list, I will come to every single one of your houses and punch you in the face.

-A Boy

[classicb]

If "Baseball Stars" doesn't make the list, I will come to every single one of your houses and punch you in the face.

-A Boy

well don't blame me if it doesn't as it came in at the #3 spot on my list.

[Jibbajaba]

Sorry Google. But we share a common love of Star Control 2.

And Boy, Baseball Stars didn't even make my list. I still fail to see why everyone spanks it so much over that game. Must be nostalgia. I never had that one back then.

Chris

[zerohero]

Sorry Google. But we share a common love of Star Control 2.

And Boy, Baseball Stars didn't even make my list. I still fail to see why everyone spanks it so much over that game. Must be nostalgia. I never had that one back then.

Chris

Agree'd

[zerohero]

Halo will be #1
GTAIII will be #2

Oh wait, this isn't gamefaqs.

Googlefest, I love you.

Chris

If Halo or GTAIII (which is a very good game), wins the top 1-5 spots....... I will hang myself.

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

Halo will be #1
GTAIII will be #2

Oh wait, this isn't gamefaqs.

Googlefest, I love you.

Chris

If Halo or GTAIII (which is a very good game), wins the top 1-5 spots....... I will hang myself.

Neither game made my list or even was an honorable mention canidate

[classicb]

Sorry Google. But we share a common love of Star Control 2.

And Boy, Baseball Stars didn't even make my list. I still fail to see why everyone spanks it so much over that game. Must be nostalgia. I never had that one back then.

Chris

while you were spending hours with Star Control 2 me and A Boy were playing games against the Lovley Ladies (or even better if we had already built up an all prestige team to play against). Baseball Stars is way more than nostalgia the way you created teams and improved your players was way ahead of its time.

[squidblatt]

Sorry Google. But we share a common love of Star Control 2.

Chris

I have a feeling that if I had ever played Star Control 2 it would have been high on my list. For some reason, despite being a PC gaming fanatic at the time it was released, I just never got it. It's especially strange since Starflight was my #2 pick, and it could just as easily have been #1.

[Jibbajaba]

Sorry Google. But we share a common love of Star Control 2.

Chris

I have a feeling that if I had ever played Star Control 2 it would have been high on my list. For some reason, despite being a PC gaming fanatic at the time it was released, I just never got it. It's especially strange since Starflight was my #2 pick, and it could just as easily have been #1.

Starflight made my list as well. I dont remember what number it was but it was pretty high. If youlike Starflight that much, then you owe it to yourself to check out SC2. Just do a google search for "Ur-quan Masters". Someone made a win32 port of SC2 and it is a free and legal download.

Chris

[googlefest1]

to me sports game will forever have thier own classification as "sports games" and i couldnt rate or list them with in a games list. no matter how much fun or nastolgia a sports title brings me i can only include it or rate it in a list amogst its peers " other sports games" - to me its almost like trying to rate computers

[Ninja Blacksox]

Sorry Google. But we share a common love of Star Control 2.

And Boy, Baseball Stars didn't even make my list. I still fail to see why everyone spanks it so much over that game. Must be nostalgia. I never had that one back then.

Chris

while you were spending hours with Star Control 2 me and A Boy were playing games against the Lovley Ladies (or even better if we had already built up an all prestige team to play against). Baseball Stars is way more than nostalgia the way you created teams and improved your players was way ahead of its time.

Bingo. WAY ahead of its time.

So much so, in fact, that no baseball game released since has come close to touching it. Hands-down the best sports title of all time, in my opinion.

It's just a shame that so many people on here have such an irrational hatred of sports games. Oh well.

-A Boy

[Jibbajaba]

to me sports game will forever have thier own classification as "sports games" and i couldnt rate or list them with in a games list. no matter how much fun or nastolgia a sports title brings me i can only include it or rate it in a list amogst its peers " other sports games" - to me its almost like trying to rate computers

That's sort of the way I feel about it as well. I'm sure that Baseball Stars is the best baseball game available on the NES, but It has seince been surpassed by newer generations of baseball games. I feel the same way about Tecmo Bowl. Now I love that game, but it didn't make my list because I don't feel as though it stands the test of time. The kinds of games that I put on my list are games that transcend the "Generational" nature of video gaming. It doesn't matter that Star Control 2 (to go back to that example) is old and therefore has extremely dated graphics and sound. Within it's little sub-genre, I don't feel as though it has ever been surpassed in terms of quality gameplay, etc. Now, if you feel that way about Baseball Stars, then by all means put it on your list. But if you give me the choice between playing baseball stars or whatever the top current-gen baseball game is, then I am going to take the latter.

So I don't think that there is an "irrational" hatred of Sports games here, but I think that people sometimes tend to pick whatever is newest because it is generally more robust. This of ocurse is not always the case though.

Chris

[lol monster]

Bingo. WAY ahead of its time.

So much so, in fact, that no baseball game released since has come close to touching it. Hands-down the best sports title of all time, in my opinion.

It's just a shame that so many people on here have such an irrational hatred of sports games. Oh well.

-A Boy

i know exacly what you mean,and agree with you.i myself hate sports games,i have never liked them and i doubt i ever will.i got baseball stars a few years back and figured it would suck,but played it because of the snk logo.man was i surprised,what a fun and overlooked game.

many of my friends hate sports games too,but i make them play baseball stars and not a one hasn't enjoyed it.

mmmm baseball stars and double negatives

[classicb]

to me sports game will forever have thier own classification as "sports games" and i couldnt rate or list them with in a games list. no matter how much fun or nastolgia a sports title brings me i can only include it or rate it in a list amogst its peers " other sports games" - to me its almost like trying to rate computers

That's sort of the way I feel about it as well. I'm sure that Baseball Stars is the best baseball game available on the NES, but It has seince been surpassed by newer generations of baseball games.

Chris

I would love a similar current generation game as good or better then Baseball Stars please point me to it.

[Jibbajaba]

to me sports game will forever have thier own classification as "sports games" and i couldnt rate or list them with in a games list. no matter how much fun or nastolgia a sports title brings me i can only include it or rate it in a list amogst its peers " other sports games" - to me its almost like trying to rate computers

That's sort of the way I feel about it as well. I'm sure that Baseball Stars is the best baseball game available on the NES, but It has seince been surpassed by newer generations of baseball games.

Chris

I would love a similar current generation game as good or better then Baseball Stars please point me to it.

OK, tell me how Baseball Stars is better than say, whatever the current version of MVP baseball is.

Chris

[classicb]

OK, tell me how Baseball Stars is better than say, whatever the current version of MVP baseball is.

Chris

It's nothing like a current verison of any baseball game. New baseball games have NO character to them while Baseball Stars had plenty. It's not a realistic sports game it has cartoony grapics and music which is also part of the appeal for me. Seeing your player walk off into the sunset after you've fired him is part of the fun. You cut a player in MVP what happens? A line with his name on it disappears? I'm sure its much more accurate to the game of baseball but that's never why I put Baseball Stars on my list.

The way you earned money to build your team was a lot of fun. If you never spent hours doing this then I'm not sure I can really explain it.

I play a lot of sports games and I only put 3 on my list of 25 and all 3 I felt were more than just another sports game.

[Jibbajaba]

OK, tell me how Baseball Stars is better than say, whatever the current version of MVP baseball is.

Chris

It's nothing like a current verison of any baseball game. New baseball games have NO character to them while Baseball Stars had plenty. It's not a realistic sports game it has cartoony grapics and music which is also part of the appeal for me. Seeing your player walk off into the sunset after you've fired him is part of the fun. You cut a player in MVP what happens? A line with his name on it disappears? I'm sure its much more accurate to the game of baseball but that's never why I put Baseball Stars on my list.

The way you earned money to build your team was a lot of fun. If you never spent hours doing this then I'm not sure I can really explain it.

I play a lot of sports games and I only put 3 on my list of 25 and all 3 I felt were more than just another sports game.

Well, certainly then I have not spent enough time playing the game to fully appreciate it from what you are saying. I think the big turn off for me is that the acutal gameplay during the baseball games isn't all that great, due I'm sure to the limitations of the system.

Chris

[AB Positive]

... oh man, the list isn't even UP yet and we have debate.

This will either turn out really really bad, or really really good.


... or both. Either way, can't wait to see the reactions.

-AB+

[classicb]

... oh man, the list isn't even UP yet and we have debate.

This will either turn out really really bad, or really really good.


... or both. Either way, can't wait to see the reactions.

-AB+

that was my thought when I was halfway through my response and if people have a problem with Baseball Stars at #3 they'll probably have a problem with Tecmo Super Bowl at #1 on my list. But rest assured I won't have a problem with all the PC games I never played nor will I tell people that modern PC games are better. :P

[Jibbajaba]

I don't have a problem with Baseball Starts being wherever it ends up. And if you really think that Tecmo Super Bowl is the best game ever made, then it should be on the top of your list (as I think we all knew it would). The whole point of making lists like these is that they take everyone's tastes into account.

Sorry that I can't give an opinion on Baseball Stars without it being taken personally.

Chris

[FireMillen]

... oh man, the list isn't even UP yet and we have debate.

This will either turn out really really bad, or really really good.


... or both. Either way, can't wait to see the reactions.

-AB+

that was my thought when I was halfway through my response and if people have a problem with Baseball Stars at #3 they'll probably have a problem with Tecmo Super Bowl at #1 on my list. But rest assured I won't have a problem with all the PC games I never played nor will I tell people that modern PC games are better. :P

Don't worry Tecmo super bowl was high on my list. Now I cant say the same for Baseball stars but thats mostly because I didn't have it "back then" but I did have Baseball Simulator 1.000 which I loved.

[Griking]

OK, tell me how Baseball Stars is better than say, whatever the current version of MVP baseball is.

Chris

It's nothing like a current verison of any baseball game. New baseball games have NO character to them while Baseball Stars had plenty. It's not a realistic sports game it has cartoony grapics and music which is also part of the appeal for me.

IMO Baseball Stars is to baseball games what Punch Out is to Boxing games. Punch Out isn't supposed to be realistic but it's still my all time favorite boxing game.

[cavein2000]

Well to each his own. No sports games made my top 25 but NHL '93 for SNES almost took the final spot. It was hard to choose. Some games changed the way I live my life and some simply get more street cred!!

[classicb]

I don't have a problem with Baseball Starts being wherever it ends up. And if you really think that Tecmo Super Bowl is the best game ever made, then it should be on the top of your list (as I think we all knew it would). The whole point of making lists like these is that they take everyone's tastes into account.

Sorry that I can't give an opinion on Baseball Stars without it being taken personally.

Chris

You can give your opinion (and I hope you continue to do because that's what makes the boards fun)and I won't take it personally but when you want to compare Baseball Stars and MVP 06 I think that's just silly.

[classicb]

it will be interesting to see how much this list varies from the current DP top 100 games of all time list. Since the current one had to have games approved and this one is a free for all based on peoples personal taste.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12325

note: Baseball Stars and Tecmo Super Bowl both made the list will see if they do on the new one.

[Canadian Psycho]

If "Baseball Stars" doesn't make the list, I will come to every single one of your houses and punch you in the face.

-A Boy

well don't blame me if it doesn't as it came in at the #3 spot on my list.
Awesome to see support for this amazing game (which has definitely stood the test of time - I'm still playing it in 2006). I have never been a sports game fan, but that one is something else. If you loved baseball (I mean really loved it), that was the game to get if not only for the customization option (anybody remembers "What is a wren?" LOL ) but also the fantastic gameplay that has never been duplicated. All in all, this is certainly the game I spent the most time playing in my life. The summers of 1990 and 1991 can attest to that. :)

P.S. BS came in at number 2 on my list, just after Snatcher. 8-)

[Canadian Psycho]

sorry, triple (!!!) post

[Canadian Psycho]

sorry, triple (!!!) post
:eek 2: :embarrassed:

[jcheatle]

Sorry to come so late to the party, but I'm totally on the bandwagon with Tecmo Super Bowl and Baseball Stars. Both were in my top 10 (I'm thinking 5 and 8 respectively?). Sure, part of it is nostalgia, but I think a lot of it, like classicb says, it's all about the character.

MVP is fine for people who want to sit down and take an hour or so to play a game. Also, who seriously has time to play 162 games? It takes a full real-time baseball season to play through one. With Baseball Stars, you can sit down and play a game in 20 minutes tops, less if you invoke the "mercy rule".

It was essentially the first "dynasty mode". Hiring, firing, renaming your players, with a fair amount of stat tracking. I think the unique qualities such as choosing the strengths of your team upon creation aid it tremendously. I always chose "strong pitching" while my friend always took "fast runners" for some reason.

Tecmo Super Bowl holds many of the same qualities, first game with in-depth stats for all (then) 28 NFL teams. The fact that they rated as low as they did speaks to my undying love for the games ahead of it (Tetris was my 1st with Link to the Past and Super Metroid also very high up there).

With the rise of EA Sports games, they've really lost their character. Don't get me wrong, I love recruiting a dynasty in NCAA Football, but I haven't been able to touch any baseball game or Madden for years. In striving to be "realistic" it just loses the appeal. To each his own though, I'm still eager to see the list.

[googlefest1]

i realy like basebal stars - and the japanese nes soccer game thats kind of matches the feel of it -- i also hold sentimental value for NHL 93 on the genesis but becasue of the way i classify sports titles i dont include them on any favorites list -- id include them on a sentimentality list but on a games list? I dont know why i just cant see them as being the same.

I certainaly do understand other peoples views about it. At thier core they are and were intended as games. Its just me - i dont have the same view.

So when you reach my house to punch me in the face after finding out baseball stars is not number 1 - would you mind bringing something to trade? :)

[Simply Dave]

I had Tecmo Super Bowl 2nd on my list, and Baseball Stars at 15th.

For the record, I had Combat (2600) at 20th. That's right. Combat.

[googlefest1]

LOL combat ended up being 29th for me it was actualy in the 20s but as i was trying to weigh it with other titles it kept gettign lower and lower and probbaly would still fall -- mainly becasuse of trying to play it nowdays -- it isint as fun - especialy when player 2 is barely interested in playing against you. all my recent experiences with the game were downers. Also, i was trying to keep nostolgia out of my evaluation. Like i complained before about only being able to choose 25 titles - its one of those games i felt that needed to be on a list like this -- im glad someone put it on theirs. :) My formula didnt alow me to

[badinsults]

There is a simple matter of tastes on any of these lists. I figure you would likely need a sampling of around 500 or so people to get a relatively unbiased listing of the greatest games, which of course is probably not that easy.

[zerohero]

I thought we were going to keep quit about what we choose on our list @_@

Looks like you better hurry up getting this top 25 posted man, or everything will be revieled.

[Ninja Blacksox]

Sorry that I can't give an opinion on Baseball Stars without it being taken personally.

I WILL STAB YOU IN THE TAINT.


So when you reach my house to punch me in the face after finding out baseball stars is not number 1 - would you mind bringing something to trade? :)

FDS games will be in tow, friend.

Although, it looks like a lot of people put it on their lists! I'm actually really, really surprised by the "Baseball Stars" love in the room.

I take back my comment about DP-ers having an "irrational hatred of sports games."

-A Boy

[Fuyukaze]

The hardest part is the waiting. I keep checking and checking and it keeps getting more and more pages but still no list. It's like standing in line waiting to use the restroom and you know who ever's in there is taking their sweet time reading some mag or picking their nose and you keep waiting and waiting and waiting. It's realy annoying this waiting bit. An estimated time of posting would greatly be apreciated because atleast then we would know to not bother checking untill then. Instead we just keep waiting and waiting and fighting over Baseball stars and suddenly I feel the urge to go to the bathroom. Thanks AB, now I've got to go to the restroom.

BTW, I hate waiting weeks. Yes, I know you are trying. Yes, I know it takes time. I still hate waiting though.

[FireMillen]

I also don't want to sound like a whiner, BUT i'm really looking forward to this list to see which games on it I haven't played and get them - and to see where my favorites fall on the list. It's hard to be patient.

[Mayhem]

Trust me Fuyukaze, Baseball Stars is placed....























...somewhere in the list ;)

It's still being edited together, there's a LOT of games to consider, over 800 different ones were voted on by people.

[Hypnotuba]

It's still being edited together, there's a LOT of games to consider, over 800 different ones were voted on by people.

Wow, not bad! How many people submitted lists?

[Ninja Blacksox]

Trust me Fuyukaze, Baseball Stars is placed....

...somewhere in the list ;)


Huzzah!

-A Boy

[Fuyukaze]

I think baseball stars even made my list. It's one of the few sports titles I enjoyed if only for the RPG elements. Beore it, I couldnt stand sports titles because of control issues and how it never felt like you were doing much more then playing an advanced form of pong. I hate most of the recent ones because while they have gained better control, they have also gained real teams, real players, and sadly just dont have the feel of stars. That probly isnt being fair to the current generation of baseball titles, or the ones which were released after it, but that's what I've come to feel about it.

I still wonder how many Koei or Atlus titles made anyone else' list. Also, how many RPGs in general or Racing games made it. There were a few I voted for in hindsight, I realy wish I could have changed around.

[googlefest1]

wow is that 800 individual titles?

[classicb]

http://pickledvellum.com/bbs2.jpghttp://pickledvellum.com/bbs3.jpghttp://pickledvellum.com/bbs1.GIFhttp://pickledvellum.com/bbs1.jpghttp://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/thumbnail/1062975812-00.jpg

[googlefest1]

stop it - your making me want to find the sports game in my NES section and play it LOL

[Ninja Blacksox]

http://pickledvellum.com/bbs1.GIF

Good lord.

Both those teams are in serious need of prestige!

-A Boy

[zerohero]

Tecmo Bowl >>> Baseball Stars




http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Tecmo_SuperBowl_NES_ScreenShot1.jpg

http://www.believemoore.com/blog/images/uploads/tecmosuperbowl.jpg

[classicb]

Tecmo Bowl >>> Baseball Stars



I'll agree with that since Tecmo Super Bowl was #1 on my list and Baseball Stars was #3





Wall Street Kid #2