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wrldstrman
01-24-2006, 11:21 PM
does anyone here a complete nes collection. by complete im meaning all the store released games. complete meaning box,instructions,cart.. iF you do how long did it take you to complete the collection and what was the hardest games to obtain. I ve got all the games but 2 and need 40 more instruction manuals and about 200 boxes. by the way I want to thank 8bitnes for helping me out with boxes hes a real good guy to deal with. Out of all the games im finding Conan and best of the best karate the hardest for me to find.also how many people have a complete loose collection,

DreamTR
01-24-2006, 11:26 PM
I have a complete NES collection, but I don't have all of the boxes...probably around 100 or so common boxes needed..but since I completed NES such a long time ago, I wanted to get the other systems out of the way....I'll pick up and occasional box here and there, but it was never a necessity to obtain all of the NES boxes for me...

captain nintendo
01-25-2006, 10:01 AM
I need like 160 more games, but over 500 of my games are now CIB. At this point I am really taking my time and just looking for CIB stuff now. I have boxes and manuals for about another 50 - 70 games though that I just need the game for ;)

Conan is a tough find by the way. @_@

nationgamesdepot
01-25-2006, 02:45 PM
I have a complete collection except for the Myriad 6 in 1. I have every licensed and unlicensed game, including a full Sachen set as well. Still missing 2 test carts though.

Most of mine are loose, but I have around 200-250 CIB games.
~~NGD

EricRyan34
01-25-2006, 03:28 PM
I have about 70 NES loose carts. Thats probably all i will ever have, I am only interested in getting games that I liked when i was younger. :D

DreamTR
01-25-2006, 04:14 PM
Well, if we are talking about extras including "test carts", I have all of them, including U Force and ROb, where only one ROB cart is known to exist, all of the unlicensed games, all of the licensed games, a complete Sachen set of 72 pin games including Huge Insect, all of the European and Australian exclusives, most of the peripherals ever released for the system including the Hands Free Controller, and 300+ NES prototype cartridges....

I thought we were just talking about store bought/production games ! :)

nationgamesdepot
01-25-2006, 04:24 PM
There is more than 1 ROB test cart. I have seen 2 others for sure not counting the one you have. I could have bought one for $350 once, but I didn't want to pay that much for it. I still need to track down a Duck Hunt test cart also.

I really need to start getting the PAL exclusive games soon :roll:
~~NGD

portnoyd
01-25-2006, 05:24 PM
I need about 100 more manuals and 275 more boxes. I have all the rare stuff out of the way... the only thing that will cost me money are a Bubble Bobble 2 box and manual. And a full cart set, of course.

I would have them all, but I got DreamTR disease and did Genesis. Only need about 200 more manuals for that, but I have every cart and box.

The woman and I are probably going to focus on 32x, SMS, N64, NES boxes, NES manuals, and Genesis manuals, as far as our collecting goes.

The hardest things to find will be a Stadium Events manual and box. Do not pass them up! I didn't, and my copy is complete.

portnoyd
01-25-2006, 05:29 PM
There is more than 1 ROB test cart. I have seen 2 others for sure not counting the one you have. I could have bought one for $350 once, but I didn't want to pay that much for it. I still need to track down a Duck Hunt test cart also.

Explain. Seen or have people said they've had one?

Joker T
01-25-2006, 05:32 PM
Dream TR I would love to see your Room of Doom. It seems like you have one of the largest collections here on DP.

nationgamesdepot
01-25-2006, 05:56 PM
Explain. Seen or have people said they've had one?

I have seen one of them for sure, and it had a time/date stamp on the pic from were the guy took the pic for me that day. The other one was from an old repair center, so I really doubt they would lie about having one, they would have no reason to.
~~NGD

DreamTR
01-25-2006, 06:03 PM
nationalgamesdepot: The ROB Test cart is not your normal looking cart with normal looking label. I have never seen another one period, and I think everyone here follows eBay enough to look for something like that quite a bit. From what I understand, these are the "real" test carts:

Port Test
NTF2 TEST (there are other versions of this with the same functions)
NTF2 TEST ROB/ZAPPER/AC
Power Pad Test
Joystick Test

(I might be forgetting about one of them)

and non first party would be the UFORCE DEMONSTRATION CART.

Zelda and Duck Hunt are not "test" carts. They are just carts with different labels and no EPROMS, so I would not even consider them in the same category. It's as simple as removing a label, and they do nothing to test the functionality of the system. Nintendo sent out Mario 64 to some service centers with the words "test" emblazoned on the sides, but it's not like it really means much.

I understand the carts are yellow, but at this point, it's just a variation and not really special in any way except for the color of the cart. Like I have said many times before, If I peel my nice Duck Hunt sticker, and put it on a Test Cart, and take out the inners of the test cart, what do I have? Two nice rare things? Not really worth the time and effort for something that isn't really much of anything.

DreamTR
01-25-2006, 06:11 PM
Joker T" It's more like an "apartment" of doom. I have a little over 10,000 different games. THis does not count anything I have for my eBay auctions and trade box which usually ranges from 50-200 items at any one time, and it always changing...My place is basically bookshelves with items double and triple backed inside to conserve space in a one bedroom apartment. It looks imposing when you see it, but you do not realize the magnitude of it all until you dig back through each shelf. I definitely do not have any doubles of games from that 10,000 list...I have been pretty thorough through eash system to make sure I get rid of my extras; )

jhd7
01-25-2006, 06:27 PM
At one time, I had 769 complete (cart, box, manual, maps, 3D glasses, whatever). The only incomplete was Stadium Events. The only games missing were the Panesians and Sachens (and there's debate about them being US releases).

Obviously, Stadium Events was the toughest to complete, as I never did it. Others that were tough: boxes for Little Samson and Flintstones II. Got lucky finding Myriad 6-in-1 early in my collecting days. Also got lucky finding Caltron, King Neptune, and Menace Beach.

Jeff D

DreamTR
01-25-2006, 06:31 PM
Jeff D, why did you get rid of all of that stuff anyway?

nationgamesdepot
01-25-2006, 06:38 PM
DreamTR
The pic that the one guy sent me was a yellow ROB/Zapper that looked like every other test cart. I will see if I have the pic, but I don't think I keep it, I will double check to make certain though.

The test carts that I know of are as follows:

Control Deck Test Cart v1.0
Control Deck Test Cart v1.1
Duck Hunt Test Cart
Joystick Test Cart
NTF2 Test Cart v1.0 (gray)
NTF2 Test Cart v1.1 (gray)
NTF2 System Test Cart
Port Test Cart
Power Pad Test Cart
Zapper / ROB Test
Zelda Test Cart

From what I have been told, the zelda and duck hunt have some built in code that tests the graphics of the nes system, and and error message pops up if there is a problem. I have had 2 different people from repair centers that told me this. I can just post what I have been told, but the repair center employees wouldn't have a a reason to make it up.

~~NGD

nationgamesdepot
01-25-2006, 07:40 PM
Can you post a pic of your Rob/zapper DreamTR, I am curious to see what yours looks like?
~~NGD

DreamTR
01-25-2006, 08:43 PM
I can't post any pics on the forums....it's been featured at CGE....

Of the test carts you mentioned:

These two are basically the same yellow cart:

Control Deck Test Cart v1.0
Control Deck Test Cart v1.1

Joystick Test Cart

These three are basically the same cart:
NTF2 Test Cart v1.0 (gray)
NTF2 Test Cart v1.1 (gray)
NTF2 System Test Cart

Port Test Cart
Power Pad Test Cart

Zapper/ROB is inside a specific NTF2 Test Cart with normal label. There has not been a yellow one identified for Zapper/ROB. It is the same type of test as doen from the testing station I believe, but the one known to exist is GRAY, and not yellow.


AS for the Duck Hunt/Zelda fiasco, I am sure that ANY game you put in might become garbled, but so far, if the game has ROMS, and not EPROMS, I doubt it would be possible for them to have mass produced those two games specifically for that practice.

wrldstrman
01-25-2006, 10:40 PM
At one time, I had 769 complete (cart, box, manual, maps, 3D glasses, whatever). The only incomplete was Stadium Events. The only games missing were the Panesians and Sachens (and there's debate about them being US releases).

Obviously, Stadium Events was the toughest to complete, as I never did it. Others that were tough: boxes for Little Samson and Flintstones II. Got lucky finding Myriad 6-in-1 early in my collecting days. Also got lucky finding Caltron, King Neptune, and Menace Beach.

Jeff D

you did have quite a collection which a few are now part of mine I just wish I would of kept track of your auctions I missed some ones I needed. does anyone have a stadium events box.

In my mind I have to go with a complete collection as the store released games because If you want to include every test cart,competion cart,homebrew , the 100 in 0nes,etc etc I dont belive anyone could have a complete collection. Im sure there are people out there that have never come to forums like this one that may have something no one has ever seen.

I think just obtaining a complete collection in any system is a real accomplishment.

Bronty-2
01-25-2006, 11:35 PM
At one time, I had 769 complete (cart, box, manual, maps, 3D glasses, whatever). The only incomplete was Stadium Events. The only games missing were the Panesians and Sachens (and there's debate about them being US releases).

Obviously, Stadium Events was the toughest to complete, as I never did it. Others that were tough: boxes for Little Samson and Flintstones II. Got lucky finding Myriad 6-in-1 early in my collecting days. Also got lucky finding Caltron, King Neptune, and Menace Beach.

Jeff D

you did have quite a collection which a few are now part of mine I just wish I would of kept track of your auctions I missed some ones I needed. does anyone have a stadium events box.

In my mind I have to go with a complete collection as the store released games because If you want to include every test cart,competion cart,homebrew , the 100 in 0nes,etc etc I dont belive anyone could have a complete collection. Im sure there are people out there that have never come to forums like this one that may have something no one has ever seen.

I think just obtaining a complete collection in any system is a real accomplishment.

Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.. I like the "sold in stores" definition also.

I'm only 2/3 of the way, but they are all factory sealed with actually a pretty decent # of the nice rare ones out of the way. But dear god the progress is slow. Looking at the games left to find list is depressing :(

DreamTR
01-25-2006, 11:38 PM
If we used "sold only in stores", then Cheetahmen II is out.

And I think Power Strike "might" be out for Master System.

It should be all of the games that were released for sale in the USA, licensed and unlicensed. The Sachen games were NOT readily available in the USA, and the Panesian games WERE, even though both are Taiwanese....

You definitely do not need contest carts or test carts for a complete collection....

LinkOracle
01-26-2006, 12:19 AM
I used to have about 600 NES carts years ago, but financial problems forced me to sell. I don't miss it a bit, for some reason I lost the love for NES, at least collecting wise, I still have about 25 favorites I keep

Bronty-2
01-26-2006, 12:59 AM
If we used "sold only in stores", then Cheetahmen II is out.

And I think Power Strike "might" be out for Master System.

It should be all of the games that were released for sale in the USA, licensed and unlicensed. The Sachen games were NOT readily available in the USA, and the Panesian games WERE, even though both are Taiwanese....

You definitely do not need contest carts or test carts for a complete collection....

So cheetahmen 2 is out... so what? I think it should be.. can't play favorites :)

I'm not sure I understand the difference between 'sold in stores' and 'released for sale'... I suppose the latter is more inclusive and would include any mail-away games, but there weren't any nes games like that that I'm aware of?

nationgamesdepot
01-26-2006, 02:46 AM
The Sachen titles were mail order back in the day. I remember getting a brochure for them one time at a rental store. Come to think of it, that same rental store had some Sachen titles you could rent also. But I was to young, and they were in the "adult section" that I snuck into. I remember thinking, wow nude video games, is there anything better. Stupid 8 bit porn. LOL
~~NGD

DreamTR
01-26-2006, 11:18 AM
nationalgamesdepot: Are you sure you are not confusing them for Panesian? I NEVER saw a Sachen title for sale or rent in a video store, only Panesian. Those definitely should not count towards a complete collection. Hell, all of us had to order them from Taiwan to get the whole thing these past few years!

bronty: there are a few SNES games that were not sold in stores as well, only directly from website retailers (as is the case of Racermate Challenge or Mountain Bike Rally/Speed Racer, which was licensed). I think it's just a case by case basis, but who DOESN'T count Cheetahmen II? The game never came out in the first place!

qbertandernie
01-26-2006, 11:35 AM
this is where everything gets screwy...i have nes 72 pin multicarts that were SOLD IN STORES. i got mine from an ex employee at Service Merchandise...those dont count on any list, nor do any other multicarts, with the exception of nes released games, action 52 and the 6 in 1s. i think 'sold in stores' and 'available for sale' aren't really accurate to what anyone collects, as there is almost no way to track unlicensed games like multis. what i think is most people collect to 'generally accepted releases' - those everyone says count. just a pet peeve, dont mind me....

was surprise at dino peak ever available in stores? i thought that was rental only.

anyway, back OT, i need 35 more NES games, and only about 1/3 of mine or boxed and a few less than that complete. i have about 100 variants too, but those aren't really huge variants, just things i noticed were different so i didnt sell those dups....some are down to a 'tm' instead of an 'R', like the second release mario/duck hunt carts...but i have a need to keep one of each for some reason.

Slate
01-26-2006, 11:46 AM
I have 126 working titles. Not counting duplictes.

The rarest is either Mermaids Of Atlantis or Ultimate league soccer. Both released by AVE.

Most of my NES games are loose, but 9 or so are complete, one is boxed, And one is With manual.

anagrama
01-26-2006, 03:44 PM
And I think Power Strike "might" be out for Master System.

Nah, I'm pretty sure extra copies of the "blue" US version were later sold off in stores (Toy'R'Us, maybe?).

Joker T
01-26-2006, 04:20 PM
Joker T" It's more like an "apartment" of doom. I have a little over 10,000 different games. THis does not count anything I have for my eBay auctions and trade box which usually ranges from 50-200 items at any one time, and it always changing...My place is basically bookshelves with items double and triple backed inside to conserve space in a one bedroom apartment. It looks imposing when you see it, but you do not realize the magnitude of it all until you dig back through each shelf. I definitely do not have any doubles of games from that 10,000 list...I have been pretty thorough through eash system to make sure I get rid of my extras; )

10,000 games, that is awesome :)

nationgamesdepot
01-26-2006, 07:19 PM
Nope, I am positive it was Sachen. I remember my mom finding the booklet in my room one day when she was cleaning. She was like "what is the hell is Sachen, what kind of trash are you looking at" I remember seeing the Panesians to, but I know for a fact that at least 3 Sachen titles were available rent here in Knoxville.
~~NGD

Bronty-2
01-26-2006, 07:45 PM
nationalgamesdepot: Are you sure you are not confusing them for Panesian? I NEVER saw a Sachen title for sale or rent in a video store, only Panesian. Those definitely should not count towards a complete collection. Hell, all of us had to order them from Taiwan to get the whole thing these past few years!

bronty: there are a few SNES games that were not sold in stores as well, only directly from website retailers (as is the case of Racermate Challenge or Mountain Bike Rally/Speed Racer, which was licensed). I think it's just a case by case basis, but who DOESN'T count Cheetahmen II? The game never came out in the first place!

I agree, everyone does count cheetah2, but to me it sounds more like something that is 'ingrained' than something that 'makes sense.' :) I have no problem ignoring cheetah 2 personally..

Bronty-2
01-26-2006, 07:46 PM
Nope, I am positive it was Sachen. I remember my mom finding the booklet in my room one day when she was cleaning. She was like "what is the hell is Sachen, what kind of trash are you looking at" I remember seeing the Panesians to, but I know for a fact that at least 3 Sachen titles were available rent here in Knoxville.
~~NGD

Maybe the store owner imported them?

D_N_G
01-26-2006, 07:50 PM
Like DTR and Porty, sitting on a complete collection (minus panesians) Im only missing about 100 boxes and 50 manuals. got the hard stuff complete like SE, caltron, myriad, etc

nationgamesdepot
01-26-2006, 08:08 PM
Maybe the store owner imported them?

That is a possibilty. All I know is that they had them back in the day. I would go ask the owner, but the store closed its doors about 2 years ago. I had a friend that used to work there, maybe he can put me in contact with the store owner. Even if he did import them, they were for sale and rent here in the US for sure.
~~NGD

portnoyd
01-26-2006, 09:29 PM
Like DTR and Porty, sitting on a complete collection (minus panesians) Im only missing about 100 boxes and 50 manuals. got the hard stuff complete like SE, caltron, myriad, etc

Probably the most ENORMISly complete collection here as far as boxed and manuals go.

DreamTR
01-27-2006, 10:30 AM
nationalgamesdepot: I doubt one small video store that imported and sold them here would casue for them to be released in the USA. THey had to "import" them. Import being the key word, as many Famicom and GBA titles were sold here in the USA, but are not USA releases.

Jumpman Jr.
01-27-2006, 11:15 AM
DreamTR's the man... no question.

I (after a few packages arrive) only have about 60 more games to go. 90% loose. I'll most likely try to get all the boxes/manuals when I'm done, but I might just head over to the SNES or something.

DreamTR
01-27-2006, 01:26 PM
I suggest getting the other systems done just before the nostalgic era for SNES hits its peak, and it's about to soon...

orrimarrko
01-27-2006, 01:45 PM
My take on the "complete NES collection" never included anything that wasn't released (licensed or unlicensed) in the US.

You could spend an eternity and a fortune trying to amass PAL games, pirate carts, multicarts, etc.

The protos and test carts (while awesome from a historic collecting point) are interesting bits of history related to the NES.

They aren't anything more than that. Just like the NWC carts aren't anything more than that - cool historical items that top off a great NES collection.

Over time, I feel that certain unlicensed games that weren't necessarily released in the US (but for all intents and purposes were meant to be released) have been included in the generally accepted NES US game list. Cheetahmen II comes to mind.

If you truly want to have a definitive NES collection that really isn't open to interpretation, then only complete a US licensed collection.

Leave off the unlicensed games, and I guarantee that you won't have to worry about a debate. Variations within that subsection is completely up to you (Metroid, Punch-Out, etc.)

Otherwise, stick to the list on the Online guide here at DP.

Above and beyond that, you probably won't have much luck anyway...at this point.

Just my opinion.

Steve (Orri-)