Are there any real PS3 games?

[Joker T]

All that I have seen are demos and target renderings. Will the games look this good? I doubt it.

Has anyone seen any actual screenshots of games?

[njiska]

All that I have seen are demos and target renderings. Will the games look this good? I doubt it.

Has anyone seen any actual screenshots of games?


Um this is Sony. They don't show any real games until they absolutely have to. Right now no reall gameplay footage or screen shots exist.

I'd say that if Sony does plan on launching this year we will see some gameplay footage at E3, just don't expect very much. I figure we'll see a bunch of CG targets and then just a small handful of actually gameplay.

I'm predicting the footage will look like the first gen PS2 footage did, but at this point who knows?

[Mr.FoodMonster]

E3. Just wait for it.

[stressboy]

From what I hear, developers are all under an NDA right now and that it expires towards the end of February.

[The Great Dane]

I hope that they don't lie about the clips like they did during last years E3 where they said it was actual in-game footage, but it turned out to not be.

[Bojay1997]

We should see playable games at E3. I am always suspicious of the "demos" that various manufacturers release a year or so before the console actually comes out. I have been burned way too many times and Sony is a particularly blatant offender. I still remember going to a press briefing before the PS2 came out and being shown what in retrospect were just rendered cut-scenes and being told it was actual gameplay footage. The whole "Emotion Engine" hype was really just that, hype. Still, the PS2 turned out to be a pretty great system, just not a quantum leap ahead of its competitors.

[Joker T]

I wonder if they are sticking with the boomerang control pad?

I really don't like the looks of it.

[Anthony1]

One exciting thing about E3, is that cards are layed on the table. If Sony is really going to release the PS3 in the United States in 2006, then they will HAVE to have playable PS3 games on the show floor. You can't release a major product like the PS3 and not have actual playable games on the show floor.


Having said that, just like with the Xbox 360, I doubt the games will be running on actual 100 percent complete PS3 hardware. But for those of you that went to last years E3, and played Xbox 360 games while you were there, and then played the actual real X360 games this November and December, then you know exactly what to expect.


I still think there is a very slight chance that the PS3 doesn't release in the U.S. in 2006. The main reason I say that, is the fact that Microsoft has had such dramatic supply problems. Microsoft could have forced the issue if they had plenty of 360's to sell last Xmas. But the fact that they had such limited quantities, coupled with the lack of a trully killer app, allows Sony to think twice about launching in the U.S. in 2006. Conventional wisdom says that the PS3 will launch in Japan in July and then in the U.S. in November. But I could actually see a scenario in which the PS3 is delayed in Japan till the fall, and the PS3 doesn't launch in the U.S. until Spring 2007.


But again, the exciting thing about the E3 show, is that we will know for sure what is going to happen. Cards are revealed at E3. That's just the way it goes. They don't need to reveal an exact date or price, but it will be known one way or another whether we are actually going to be playing the PS3 on this side of the Pacific in 2006.

[njiska]

I still think there is a very slight chance that the PS3 doesn't release in the U.S. in 2006. The main reason I say that, is the fact that Microsoft has had such dramatic supply problems. Microsoft could have forced the issue if they had plenty of 360's to sell last Xmas. But the fact that they had such limited quantities, coupled with the lack of a trully killer app, allows Sony to think twice about launching in the U.S. in 2006. Conventional wisdom says that the PS3 will launch in Japan in July and then in the U.S. in November. But I could actually see a scenario in which the PS3 is delayed in Japan till the fall, and the PS3 doesn't launch in the U.S. until Spring 2007.

The PS3 will launch this year regardless of it's shape. Sony needs to get Blu-Ray out in to the market and they need to do it soon. The future of the company is bnked on it.

[lol monster]

i am guessing the idea of a spring release is way off

[InsaneDavid]

One exciting thing about E3, is that cards are layed on the table. If Sony is really going to release the PS3 in the United States in 2006, then they will HAVE to have playable PS3 games on the show floor. You can't release a major product like the PS3 and not have actual playable games on the show floor.

But you CAN have playable games on the floor and then release no product - remember The Phantom, how about Data Play at CES a few years ago?

Microsoft is the early / mid 1990's era Sega. They rush the technology with plans to slowly continue to implement it during the console's lifespan. Instead of doing things right they try harder to do things fast. When Sony released the original PlayStation they took their freaking time and every step was a cautious one.

The few people involved with the 360 that I've talked to have all said that Microsoft's strategy is to "kill Sony" and that's an unhealthy way to run a games division. Sony's stance has always been to provide interactive entertainment. Sony wants to promote the gaming lifestyle and provide the choice to allow the largest amount of people to buy their product. Microsoft just wants to overthrow Sony which comes back to bite them on the ass all the time with things such as 360 supply issues. "The PS2 launch was the same thing" naa, sorry, yeah the amount of consoles at launch was lean but they started to flow in 9-12 at a time every few days up until normal stock would hit the stores. Sony will launch when they want to and right now it looks like that'll be this year.

I call October or November.

[Diatribal Deity]

My guess is a shortage of PS3's (if available at all next holiday season) will result in a huge surge in sales of Xbox 360's which will have a much bigger library at that point as well.

If you think The 360 had supply problems, just wait and see what the PS3 situation will be. It will be very interesting to see if Sony can go at least 2 years before breaking even, given Playstation has been their biggest revenue generator over the past years. They willl be walking a very tight line.

Oh yeah...if you think I am a Xbox/Microsoft fanboy you would be completely wrong. I just look at financial data all the time as an investor. Did you see Microsofts results last quarter? Very promising despite the hardware hit.

[Ed Oscuro]

Microsoft is the early / mid 1990's era Sega. They rush the technology with plans to slowly continue to implement it during the console's lifespan. Instead of doing things right they try harder to do things fast. When Sony released the original PlayStation they took their freaking time and every step was a cautious one.
That's an interesting comparision...maybe you could say "Microsoft is Sega in the mid-90s, but without a lead over their biggest competitor."

Of course, I subscribe to the "every company is unique" school...just too many factors to take out before comparisons start making sense, as I see it.

Also, Nintendo definitely "took their time" and were cautious with the N64 - hence the lack of a cartridge port, which was by no means a rushed decision. Though cartridges were definitely easier to implement, it's pretty commonly accepted wisdom that they did it for the reasons they said they did - to produce a more reliable system without load times.

To go further on a tangent, I'd say the N64 was singlehandedly responsible for reinforcing the perception that Nintendo makes the most reliable consoles - not that the GameCube has done anything to hurt that perception.

[Joker T]

I still think there is a very slight chance that the PS3 doesn't release in the U.S. in 2006. The main reason I say that, is the fact that Microsoft has had such dramatic supply problems. Microsoft could have forced the issue if they had plenty of 360's to sell last Xmas. But the fact that they had such limited quantities, coupled with the lack of a trully killer app, allows Sony to think twice about launching in the U.S. in 2006. Conventional wisdom says that the PS3 will launch in Japan in July and then in the U.S. in November. But I could actually see a scenario in which the PS3 is delayed in Japan till the fall, and the PS3 doesn't launch in the U.S. until Spring 2007.

The PS3 will launch this year regardless of it's shape. Sony needs to get Blu-Ray out in to the market and they need to do it soon. The future of the company is bnked on it.

Sony needs to put PS3 out this year, njiska is right. The company is falling behind in almost ever aspect. They need PS3.

[Nature Boy]

Sony needs to put PS3 out this year, njiska is right. The company is falling behind in almost ever aspect. They need PS3.

I think I just read this morning that analysists expect the PSP to outsell the DS by the end of the year (15 million units to 10 million were the numbers they threw around).

I still think they should get the PS3 out this year. Releasing after your competitor isn't a huge deal (see the PS2 vs The Dreamcast), but if the wait becomes too long I think it *can become* a huge deal, and a year could be that dividing line in my eyes.

[Mr.FoodMonster]

My guess is a shortage of PS3's (if available at all next holiday season) will result in a huge surge in sales of Xbox 360's which will have a much bigger library at that point as well.
No way. Sony knows how to launch a console, like another poster above said. The shortage wont be nearly as great as the 360's.

[captain nintendo]

My guess is a shortage of PS3's (if available at all next holiday season) will result in a huge surge in sales of Xbox 360's which will have a much bigger library at that point as well.
No way. Sony knows how to launch a console, like another poster above said. The shortage wont be nearly as great as the 360's.

Oh yeah..... Because there was no shortage of PS2's (at launch) :roll:

whatever.

[Mr.FoodMonster]

My guess is a shortage of PS3's (if available at all next holiday season) will result in a huge surge in sales of Xbox 360's which will have a much bigger library at that point as well.
No way. Sony knows how to launch a console, like another poster above said. The shortage wont be nearly as great as the 360's.

Oh yeah..... Because there was no shortage of PS2's (at launch) :roll:

whatever.
That isn't what I said at all. Sure, there was a shortage, but 2 months AFTER the launch, they were pretty easily had. That is still not the case for the 360.

[njiska]

My guess is a shortage of PS3's (if available at all next holiday season) will result in a huge surge in sales of Xbox 360's which will have a much bigger library at that point as well.
No way. Sony knows how to launch a console, like another poster above said. The shortage wont be nearly as great as the 360's.

Oh yeah..... Because there was no shortage of PS2's (at launch) :roll:

whatever.
That isn't what I said at all. Sure, there was a shortage, but 2 months AFTER the launch, they were pretty easily had. That is still not the case for the 360.

Something that really needs to be tough about is that Sony doesn't care about launching it as a console. They've made it quite clear that their enemy is Toshiba and inorder to get the PS3 on the market as a cheap Blu-Ray player it may be rushed to market and if it's rushed to market there's going to be a shortage.

The entire launch hinges on the HD DVD/Blur-Ray war.

[Anthony1]

No way. Sony knows how to launch a console, like another poster above said. The shortage wont be nearly as great as the 360's.



You've got to be kidding me. The original launch of the PS2 in the U.S. was a total botch job. The shortage of the PS2 was just as bad as the 360 launch if not worse. I was lucky enough to get mine on launch day, but only because I spent the night in front of a Target store. (in the rain and cold by the way). One of my best friends wanted to buy a PS2 desperately at launch, and wasn't able to find one at a store till April 2001.

[hezeuschrist]

One exciting thing about E3, is that cards are layed on the table. If Sony is really going to release the PS3 in the United States in 2006, then they will HAVE to have playable PS3 games on the show floor. You can't release a major product like the PS3 and not have actual playable games on the show floor.
The few people involved with the 360 that I've talked to have all said that Microsoft's strategy is to "kill Sony" and that's an unhealthy way to run a games division. Sony's stance has always been to provide interactive entertainment. Sony wants to promote the gaming lifestyle and provide the choice to allow the largest amount of people to buy their product. Microsoft just wants to overthrow Sony which comes back to bite them on the ass all the time with things such as 360 supply issues.

Sony is in it for the same reason, to Kill Microsoft. When asked some time ago who Kutaragi thought Sony's biggest competitor was, he was expected to say Nintendo, but instead said Microsft, and something to the effect of, "Microsoft is our biggest enemy, and I will kill them"

I'm looking for the article now.

Here it is.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2005/11/01/8362844/


In the late 1990s, Gates was in talks with Kutaragi to include the Windows operating system in the PS2. But Kutaragi had long seen Gates as the most lethal threat to his empire. Bernie Stolar, a former Sony executive, remembers Kutaragi asking him as early as 1994 where he thought the nascent PlayStation console's main competition would come from. Nintendo, Stolar guessed. Maybe Intel. Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. "No, Bernie, you are wrong," he said. "It is Microsoft. And I will kill them."

[Joker T]

I ordered my PS2 off Amazon for like $400 a little while after launch I couldn't believe I was able to get one. That launch was just as crappy as the 360 one if not worse.