Xbox and PS3 rumors

[Cmtz]

First the PS3 rumor.

An EBgames employee has leaked that EB and GameStop are going to take pre-orders of the PS3 soon. But to everyone's surprise, there will like be 2 packaging for you to select: $ 599 USD or $ 299 USD (O_O).

He also said the $ 299 version might not have the Blu-ray Video playback function, but the $ 599 version will. But still, both versions are capable of playing Blu-ray games. Now imagine a PS3 that can't play Blu-ray videos... the only word I can find is "Lame".

Ken Kutaragi's words are still in my head even now: "You can buy the PS3 by working overtime for a few days." I wonder if Japanese people are getting THAT well paid, or was he just referring to the $ 299 version?

We cross our fingers about this rumor.

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Now for Xbox 360

Rumor 1: Sometime around November 2006, MS is launching a complete media service on the marketplace. This will range from 99 cent songs, to 3.99 streaming movies.

Rumor 2: At next E3, MS will announce a parternship with Blizzard that will bring World of Warcraft exclusively to 360. The deal is done, and Blizzard is working on porting the game and a console control scheme. This game will also include a unannounced expansion that the PC gamers will have to wait about a month to get after we get this game. Only 360 gamers will be on specific 360 servers, the game will include voice chat, and it wouldn't work with PC gamers.

Rumor 3: Halo 3 will be out Quarter 4 of 2006.

Rumor 4: There will be over 50 Sega Dreamcast games on the Xbox Live Arcade within 2 years, launched a handfull at a time. Every Dreamcast game released on 360 will be priced at around 10 dollars.

Rumor 5: Bonk's Adventure is coming to Xbox Live Arcade September 2006.

[njiska]

First the PS3 rumor.

An EBgames employee has leaked that EB and GameStop are going to take pre-orders of the PS3 soon. But to everyone's surprise, there will like be 2 packaging for you to select: $ 599 USD or $ 299 USD (O_O).

He also said the $ 299 version might not have the Blu-ray Video playback function, but the $ 599 version will. But still, both versions are capable of playing Blu-ray games. Now imagine a PS3 that can't play Blu-ray videos... the only word I can find is "Lame".

Bah hahahaha That's fucking ridiculous. I mean it's the cost of the drive not the software that makes the difference. A $300 difference just for software is completely insane. I'd say this can't possible be true.


Now for Xbox 360

Rumor 1: Sometime around November 2006, MS is launching a complete media service on the marketplace. This will range from 99 cent songs, to 3.99 streaming movies.

This is completely plausible however 3.99 for streaming videos seems a bit high. The music store on the other hand would make complete sense as MS is always looking to compete and $0.99 is the standard cost.


Rumor 2: At next E3, MS will announce a parternship with Blizzard that will bring World of Warcraft exclusively to 360. The deal is done, and Blizzard is working on porting the game and a console control scheme. This game will also include a unannounced expansion that the PC gamers will have to wait about a month to get after we get this game. Only 360 gamers will be on specific 360 servers, the game will include voice chat, and it wouldn't work with PC gamers.

Amazing if it's true, that's all i can say.


Rumor 3: Halo 3 will be out Quarter 4 of 2006.

Not very likely, i think it's far more likely to launch in 07 to conincide with the movie.


Rumor 4: There will be over 50 Sega Dreamcast games on the Xbox Live Arcade within 2 years, launched a handfull at a time. Every Dreamcast game released on 360 will be priced at around 10 dollars.

Another great if true, but given Sega's agreement with Gametap there maybe legal issues that would prevent this from happening. Still, one can hope.


Rumor 5: Bonk's Adventure is coming to Xbox Live Arcade September 2006.

That'd be spiffy.

[Emuaust]

all i can say is OMG @_@ @_@ @_@

[Darren870]

I work for EBGames and there has been NO word of that. I listen to all the confrence calls and would of gotten an answer when I asked about it today on the call.

Im going to go with a dumb dumb rumor on this one. PS3 preorder will be soon though. Ill double check again tomorrow and let you know.

Though I could be wrong and that employee could be very high up.

[Daltone]

Rumor 4: There will be over 50 Sega Dreamcast games on the Xbox Live Arcade within 2 years, launched a handfull at a time. Every Dreamcast game released on 360 will be priced at around 10 dollars.

That'd be cool, it'd be nice to play Outtrigger without the wonky controls.

[unwinddesign]

Rumor 4:

Six words. Chu Chu Rocket on Xbox Live.

...

Holy. Shit.

...

Time to change pants.

[freckledpeas]

Rumor 3: Halo 3 will be out Quarter 4 of 2006.


I actually heard a rumor that a possible release date for Halo 3 would coincide with the PS3 launch. Don't know if it's true, but it sure does make sense for Microsoft to pull out the big guns to steal some thunder from the Sony launch. If PS3 is scheduled for the 4th quarter, I guess both rumors could be true... :)

[Joker T]

There just rumors. I won't get my hopes up for any of them.

[danthemanuno]

I have one game that would be amazing from dreamcast:

NBA SHOWTIME

if you could wager Xbox Live points on the games that would be INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GaijinPunch]

I wonder if Japanese people are getting THAT well paid, or was he just referring to the $ 299 version?

Japanese people in the age group that buy video games traditionally get paid next to nothing.... and they most likely work 60 hours a week anyway.

[stressboy]

Rumor 3: Halo 3 will be out Quarter 4 of 2006.


I actually heard a rumor that a possible release date for Halo 3 would coincide with the PS3 launch. Don't know if it's true, but it sure does make sense for Microsoft to pull out the big guns to steal some thunder from the Sony launch. If PS3 is scheduled for the 4th quarter, I guess both rumors could be true... :)

Bill Gates was quoted as saying that sometime last year. Since then, he has pretty much retracted it, and said it will be ready when it is done.

[Slate]

Dreamcast games on Xbox Live Arcade? Will they be downloadable to the Xbox 360 itself, And will they have updated graphics and audio, and will i be able to play games ONLINE that had their online service canceled?

If yes to every one, Then i think it's worth $10 each.

But if no to one of them, Not really.

[lol monster]

Rumor 6: Microsoft will release a motion-sensitive controller for the 360. It will be bigger, louder, look only marginally better than Nintendo's, and it'll cost twice as much.

[njiska]

Dreamcast games on Xbox Live Arcade? Will they be downloadable to the Xbox 360 itself, And will they have updated graphics and audio, and will i be able to play games ONLINE that had their online service canceled?

If yes to every one, Then i think it's worth $10 each.

But if no to one of them, Not really.

Are you insane? I'd be damn happy to play DC titles as they were originally mentent to be played on the 360 of only $10 if A: I don't already own it. or B:They updated the control Scheme (Dual Analog is great)

But i do agree with you about the online part. They need live support.

[unbroken]

Anyone can pull these rumors out of their ass. I seriously doubt halo 3 will be out this year, bungie has'nt even really spoke a peep of halo 3 yet. I would never trust an eb employee regarding any game, their guess is the same as ours until we here an official release date and it's as simple as that.

[meancode]

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/02/07/out-with-the-old-rumors-in-with-the-new/

hmm...

[Mr.FoodMonster]

I cant judge if any of these are true or not, but WoW on the 360 would make a few hundred thousand people cream their pants. Also, if I saw two different prices for the PS3, I would assume one just a system, and the other is a bundle of some kind. I hope they dont pull that 'you must buy a bundle' bullshit like they did to some people with the 360. That was one of the most rediculous things I've ever heard.

[CrimsonNugget]

This all sounds like a load of doodie to me. Game store employees have a tendency to blurt out total bull and think their word has more credibility because they're a cashier for the place. The rumor that is the most illogical is the two Sony packages. As someone stated, it's mostly the hardware that determines the price of the system. If they both have Blu-ray, why the $300 price difference? I don't think any playback software has ever cost so much.

[DonMarco]

I wonder if Japanese people are getting THAT well paid, or was he just referring to the $ 299 version?
Japanese people in the age group that buy video games traditionally get paid next to nothing.... and they most likely work 60 hours a week anyway.
The target purchasing audience (system buyers) will be mostly parents and people that grew up on PS and PS2. And PSP. And probably already own an iPod, HD tv, laptop, and swanky sound system. The rest of them can starve.

Starve for the system they want. I lasted on a 2400 yen per week budget to get my Saturn and games. It was worth it too.


Game store employees have a tendency to blurt out total bull and think their word has more credibility because they're a cashier for the place. The rumor that is the most illogical is the two Sony packages.
Game store customers are no different. I take a quiet pleasure in telling them they're wrong. But I'm nice about it, and hopeful that they've learned a valuable lesson.

Oh, and a two-package system launch worked well for the 360 and PSP (Japan launch had 2 packages).

[Griking]

I cant judge if any of these are true or not, but WoW on the 360 would make a few hundred thousand people cream their pants.

...and another million pull out their hair in frustration. WoW was unplayable at times right after the holidays between all of the crashes and half hour que times to log in. Tons of new users were logging in to play their free trials. Blizzard just couldn't support the number of people online at the same time. I don't even want to think how bad thngs would get if you threw a million xBox users into the mix as well. :frustrated:

[Crazycarl]

I cant judge if any of these are true or not, but WoW on the 360 would make a few hundred thousand people cream their pants.

...and another million pull out their hair in frustration. WoW was unplayable at times right after the holidays between all of the crashes and half hour que times to log in. Tons of new users were logging in to play their free trials. Blizzard just couldn't support the number of people online at the same time. I don't even want to think how bad thngs would get if you threw a million xBox users into the mix as well. :frustrated:

well they now i microsoft backing them, so bigger company bigger servers...i think they will be able to take it.

[Ed Oscuro]

Bah hahahaha That's [$299 versus $599] fucking ridiculous. I mean it's the cost of the drive not the software that makes the difference. A $300 difference just for software is completely insane. I'd say this can't possible be true.
Hmm, sounds like self-competition worries gone bad.

I wonder if you could upgrade in the future...?

I'd go for the non-movie playing version myself. Don't imagine I'll care about the initial Blu-Ray movie offerings (well, Silent Hill on Blu-Ray...that'd be nice).[/quote]
As for all the other rumors: hmm, interesting. Dreamcast games and more on the 360? Hooray!

[Nature Boy]

I admit I know nothing about BluRay/HD DVD, but at this point if I had the option of spending half the money for a PS3, I'd jump at it in a second.

(I can see them offering movie playback as an option, ala Xbox, but I think $300 for it is *ridiculous* - still, you never know)

I don't know about you guys, but I've got a *massive* DVD collection that I'm not exactly anxious to replace with a new format.

The Xbox stuff sounds pretty cool too, although I'm still not an online gamer personally.

[Sylentwulf]

I'm always shocked at the people on THIS SITE that will pay for older games that they very most likely already own, or KNOW that they could get cheaper?!

This goes for the revolution's classic games, gba compilation games (or ALL compilations), and now xbox dreamcast games.

The general populace, sure, they can overpay and get ripped off for inferior ports (or even superior ones) but I'm always shocked at the fact that people who should KNOW BETTER are still excited about paying for games they already own with a poor control scheme. This is like paying for MAME and being excited about it.

$10 per DC game? WTF? 10 games for $100. You're telling me you couldn't find yourself a dreamcast with 10 games in perfectly mint condition for much less than that?!

OK, yes, I can understand the SLIM possibility of something like PSO being playable online for free. THAT I would pay $10 for no problem. Other than that, I just don't get it.

[Oobgarm]

An EBgames employee has leaked that EB and GameStop are going to take pre-orders of the PS3 soon. But to everyone's surprise, there will like be 2 packaging for you to select: $ 599 USD or $ 299 USD (O_O).

I call bullshit on that. If Sony thinks that they can price their system over $400 and still have people flock to it, then I don't thnk they'd have much of a chance. They're going to HAVE to release it at the same price point as X360 to remain competitive. If they were first out of the gate, they might have been able to pull it off, but there's no chance of it when someone's already set 'the standard' for price.


He also said the $ 299 version might not have the Blu-ray Video playback function, but the $ 599 version will. But still, both versions are capable of playing Blu-ray games. Now imagine a PS3 that can't play Blu-ray videos... the only word I can find is "Lame".

Blu-Ray isn't going to sway too many people yet since the tech isn't at an average consumer price level. Only real fiends will go for something like that. Like the PSX/Tivo thing in Japan.


Rumor 1: Sometime around November 2006, MS is launching a complete media service on the marketplace. This will range from 99 cent songs, to 3.99 streaming movies.

I figured that was a given from day one. You are almost REQUIRED to set something like that up if you have any type of on-demand download service.


Rumor 2: At next E3, MS will announce a parternship with Blizzard that will bring World of Warcraft exclusively to 360. The deal is done, and Blizzard is working on porting the game and a console control scheme. This game will also include a unannounced expansion that the PC gamers will have to wait about a month to get after we get this game. Only 360 gamers will be on specific 360 servers, the game will include voice chat, and it wouldn't work with PC gamers.

I wouldn't doubt this one bit, and I'd be tickled pink if it came to fruitition. It would certainly sway a ton of people into getting the system since it's cheaper than a PC, and using Live would be cheaper than my WOW account for the PC, which is running at $15 a month. Plus, it would be optimized so everyone has a good experience. (Unlike my computer which is old and has a few problems with WOW.)


Rumor 3: Halo 3 will be out Quarter 4 of 2006.

Nope. A big title like that would already have the hype machine going. No screens or ANY sort of info yet.


Rumor 4: There will be over 50 Sega Dreamcast games on the Xbox Live Arcade within 2 years, launched a handfull at a time. Every Dreamcast game released on 360 will be priced at around 10 dollars.

I'm 50/50 on believing this one. Different control schemes would be cool, but I think that I'd only dig a few of them, as my 360 took my Dreamcast's place in my rig. But hey, not everyone is a collector like us, so it could fare well. But we're gonna need a bigger HDD.


Rumor 5: Bonk's Adventure is coming to Xbox Live Arcade September 2006.

I'd rather have Devil's Crush. :-P

[unwinddesign]

I'm always shocked at the people on THIS SITE that will pay for older games that they very most likely already own, or KNOW that they could get cheaper?!

This goes for the revolution's classic games, gba compilation games (or ALL compilations), and now xbox dreamcast games.

The general populace, sure, they can overpay and get ripped off for inferior ports (or even superior ones) but I'm always shocked at the fact that people who should KNOW BETTER are still excited about paying for games they already own with a poor control scheme. This is like paying for MAME and being excited about it.

I cannot play Dreamcast Chu Chu Rocket on Xbox Live. I can not play Chu Chu Rocket in HD. I can not play Chu Chu Rocket in Surround Sound.

Half ass the last two so it's semi-respectable on my setup, and nail the first one. My $10 is Microsoft's.

Same with a bunch of other online games. I missed out on the DC's online glory period. I'd happily cough up $100, $200, even $300 for games that I already own -- playing against friends on XBL is well worth it.


$10 per DC game? WTF? 10 games for $100. You're telling me you couldn't find yourself a dreamcast with 10 games in perfectly mint condition for much less than that?!

Clearly, you don't collect for Dreamcast.

[njiska]

$10 per DC game? WTF? 10 games for $100. You're telling me you couldn't find yourself a dreamcast with 10 games in perfectly mint condition for much less than that?!

Clearly, you don't collect for Dreamcast.

Clearly not i'm still paying over $15 for most dreamcast games, sometimes even more ($35 for a sealed Jap D2). Believe me $10 ain't bad.

[Sylentwulf]

$10 per DC game? WTF? 10 games for $100. You're telling me you couldn't find yourself a dreamcast with 10 games in perfectly mint condition for much less than that?!

Clearly, you don't collect for Dreamcast.

Clearly not i'm still paying over $15 for most dreamcast games, sometimes even more ($35 for a sealed Jap D2). Believe me $10 ain't bad.

Collecting and playing is completely different. Chuchu rocket doesn't cost $35, in fact, 5 of them ended for $.49 recently.

Here are some others auctions real quick:

56 games for $240 shipped (http://cgi.ebay.com/56-Sega-Dreamcast-Games-Wholesale-Lot-NO-doubles_W0QQitemZ8256117830QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem)

30 games for $44 shipped (http://cgi.ebay.com/200-Lot-of-30-Sega-Dreamcast-Games-Low-S-H_W0QQitemZ7005079706QQcategoryZ31583QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

So, I could get 56 games, complete in physical form to keep forever on the original console, or 24 games probably 5-6 at a time, and lose them when I want new ones. Got it, just checking.

[njiska]

Ebay does not set the standard. I'm pretty sure i could buy a human kidney for considerably less on there then i could from a doctor for a transplant.

The bottom line is that you have to compare retail costs and at retail most DC games are over $10.

[Griking]

Ebay does not set the standard. I'm pretty sure i could buy a human kidney for considerably less on there then i could from a doctor for a transplant.

The bottom line is that you have to compare retail costs and at retail most DC games are over $10.

I think that there's a bit of a difference between buying used videogames online and buying a kidney.

First of all, you can't argue "retail" price because the Dreamcast is dead and not sold new in retail stores anymore. Yeah, I'm sure there may be a few exceptions but the day I can't walk into my local Gamestop or Walmart and buy one it's dead and non retail to me.

As for eBay not setting the standard, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this but I will say that if the "retail" price of a game is $49.99 but I can find it on eBay for $29.99 I'm sure as hell going to buy it off eBay rather than retail. I doubt that I'm the only one who spends their money this way.

I think the option of playing Dreamcast games on the xbox 360 sounds cool but I'd rather they work on the list of Xbox games that I can play on it first.

Other than that, the only Dreamcast games that I'd consider paying $10 to play on the Xbox would be thouse that added enhanced features such as online play. Othewise I'd rather do as Silentwulf says and buy the real thing for less.

[Emuaust]

hmmm steak and kidney pie, yummy ;)

[njiska]

Ebay does not set the standard. I'm pretty sure i could buy a human kidney for considerably less on there then i could from a doctor for a transplant.

The bottom line is that you have to compare retail costs and at retail most DC games are over $10.

I think that there's a bit of a difference between buying used videogames online and buying a kidney.

First of all, you can't argue "retail" price because the Dreamcast is dead and not sold new in retail stores anymore. Yeah, I'm sure there may be a few exceptions but the day I can't walk into my local Gamestop or Walmart and buy one it's dead and non retail to me.

As for eBay not setting the standard, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this but I will say that if the "retail" price of a game is $49.99 but I can find it on eBay for $29.99 I'm sure as hell going to buy it off eBay rather than retail. I doubt that I'm the only one who spends their money this way.

I think the option of playing Dreamcast games on the xbox 360 sounds cool but I'd rather they work on the list of Xbox games that I can play on it first.

Other than that, the only Dreamcast games that I'd consider paying $10 to play on the Xbox would be thouse that added enhanced features such as online play. Othewise I'd rather do as Silentwulf says and buy the real thing for less.

Ok the kidney reference was meant to exclaimate the absurdity of using an online auction site set the price standard was unfair.

Used DC games at retail stores sell for $10 and that's the only fair comparision. That's what i was trying to say.

There's a pretty even pricing scheme across the entire retail undustry as to what value a game is worth and it's the only fair comparision to online sales through live.

Half-Life 2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/HALF-LIFE-2-PC-GAME-SHOOTER_W0QQitemZ8256794083QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem) on ebay = $7.01 USD with 7 hourts remaining

Ebgames.com = $39.99

Steam = $29.95

[Emuaust]

as a person that runs a retail outlet for games I can honestly
say that anyone stating ebay prices when trying to evaluate
maket prices is either a. Bonkers or B. Bonkers.

Honestly though it is not fair to trade off the second hand market
to the new market, it is ingnorant to think that second hand
can be a guide for a products worth, second hand after all
is just that second hand, new is getting a product in a new
condition.

DC games at $10US, if its a worthy title then I say its a bargin and completely non comparable to a Second Hand/Used
copy, I mean honestly Njiska is total correct its really comparing
apples to oranges so to speak.

[DeputyMoniker]

Now for Xbox 360

Rumor 1: Sometime around November 2006, MS is launching a complete media service on the marketplace. This will range from 99 cent songs, to 3.99 streaming movies.

Streaming movies...that would explain what MS plans to do about Sony & Blu-Ray. HD movies without paying royalties to anybody for the hardware. Like I said before "360 external video module? That shit ain't never gonna hit the street, homie". Well, I said something like that.

This isnt to imply I believe MS plans to steal the next-gen video market with the 360...I just think they plan to compete with the PS3 by offering HD content but without using external media. I think theyll have you download the video decoder & youre ready to stream.

[Sylentwulf]

Stating that ebay prices are NOT valid is asinine. If I buy games on ebay, why shouldn't I say that's how much I spend on games? This is like stating that prices on play-asia are not valid for import games just because you don't happen to shop there?

Maybe I think stating gamestop and EBgames prices are pointless and do not set a standard for pricing, since I never shop there? Are you saying we should take ebgames word on how much a used dreamcast game goes for just because they have more storefront than jims game and watch down the street?

[Nature Boy]

Are you saying we should take ebgames word on how much a used dreamcast game goes for just because they have more storefront than jims game and watch down the street?

I think what you *both* should be saying is that pricing comes from all sources - brick and morter as well as online. If you want to personally ignore one then by all means do so, but keep the ridiculous quibling to the PS3 & Xbox 360 rumous, if quibble you must.

[njiska]

Stating that ebay prices are NOT valid is asinine. If I buy games on ebay, why shouldn't I say that's how much I spend on games? This is like stating that prices on play-asia are not valid for import games just because you don't happen to shop there?

Maybe I think stating gamestop and EBgames prices are pointless and do not set a standard for pricing, since I never shop there? Are you saying we should take ebgames word on how much a used dreamcast game goes for just because they have more storefront than jims game and watch down the street?

I think you've completely missed the point.

There's a big difference between play-asia and eBay. eBay is an auction site. Do you judge the value of a car by what it's sold at an auction? No.

Play-Asia, EBgames, The Goat store, they're all stores, but eBay is not a store it's an auction site and if you're going to complain that $10 is a ridiculous price to play to download DC games then you need to compare it to stores not auction sites.

Using auctions to set a price point is truely asinine. It has nothing to do with online or not, it has to do with auction versus regular store sale.

[unwinddesign]

$10 per DC game? WTF? 10 games for $100. You're telling me you couldn't find yourself a dreamcast with 10 games in perfectly mint condition for much less than that?!

Clearly, you don't collect for Dreamcast.

Clearly not i'm still paying over $15 for most dreamcast games, sometimes even more ($35 for a sealed Jap D2). Believe me $10 ain't bad.

Collecting and playing is completely different. Chuchu rocket doesn't cost $35, in fact, 5 of them ended for $.49 recently.

Here are some others auctions real quick:

56 games for $240 shipped (http://cgi.ebay.com/56-Sega-Dreamcast-Games-Wholesale-Lot-NO-doubles_W0QQitemZ8256117830QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem)

30 games for $44 shipped (http://cgi.ebay.com/200-Lot-of-30-Sega-Dreamcast-Games-Low-S-H_W0QQitemZ7005079706QQcategoryZ31583QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

So, I could get 56 games, complete in physical form to keep forever on the original console, or 24 games probably 5-6 at a time, and lose them when I want new ones. Got it, just checking.

I know how much stuff goes for on eBay in lots. I deal this stuff all the time.

On an individual basis, since MOST people do not want to shell out $240 for 56 games -- of which they'll actually want to play 3 or 4 -- $10 is an excellent price for Dreamcast games. I can name fifty Dreamcast games that, in their physical form, cost $10 or more off eBay. That's fifty games right off the top that would be as expensive or LESS expensive on Xbox 360. Without any additional features. Unless, of course, you'd like to pay $50 for Project Justice instead of downloading it for $10 on Xbox Live Arcade. Or perhaps you like paying $45 for Power Stone 2 instead of $10?

Sure, if you hunt around yard sales, flea markets, pawn shops etc. for awhile, you could probably find the aforementioned games for $2, $5, $7 etc. But is it worth your time? Xbox Live Arcade streamlines the whole process, puts all of the games at your fingertips, and all at a very fair price.

Hell, for a lot of titles upgraded features would be icing on the cake. Personally, I'd pay $10 for a downloadable copy of Power Stone 2 with nothing added -- and I think a lot of other people would as well. This coming from someone who has had 20 copies of the game pass through his hands over the past year.

If they add XBL support, HD support and Surround Sound, that's just icing on the cake. Jet Grind Radio in surround sound and HD? I'm there. Shenmue in freakin' HD and surround sound, with the passport website back up? Gold. Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure, Crazy Taxi, Toy Commander all in HD and Surround Sound? Toy Commander with XBL support? Oh, and think about it -- they could release some of those previously unreleased titles as well. Propellor Arena on XBL? One could dream.

[Sylentwulf]

Whether ebay prices "count" or not I suppose they must know what they're doing, if people who actually OWN the games want to pay an extra $10 just to have it on another medium. Therefor, I am proven wrong.

Fresh $30 super mario bros games and $10 dreamcast games for all my men!



(and buying a car at a physical auction has NOTHING to do with this, like ANY physical auctions are COMPLETELY different from ebay) Would I judge how much my car is worth by ebay prices? Yes. Because that IS INDEED how much I could sell it for if I wanted to.

[njiska]

Fresh $30 super mario bros games and $10 dreamcast games for all my men!


GBA NES Classics says it all. :)

[Yago]

Would I pay $10 for a Dreamcast game for the 360 when I already own it for the Dreamcast itself? Yup.

I have Pitfall! on the Atari 2600. Seeing how I already own it, why would I also buy the same game for the Intellivision and Colecovision? Why? Because that is what game collectors do. So just because I already own Dreamcast games, does not mean I won't buy them for another system. Would I go out and buy every Dreamcast title for the 360, probably not, just the ones I really like. But, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't put much faith into Rumors.

[Vinnysdad]

$10 dollars for a Dreamcast game! No thank you.

[njiska]

I find it so very funny that there's an out cry against $10 for a DC game when there was such a strong showing of support for the $10 Marble Blast Ultra. Considering your looking at like 10+ hours of fun from a DC game and only maybe 3-4 for Marble blast, it doesn't really make sense to me to complain about $10 for a DC game.

Just a thought.

[goatdan]

I don't want to get into the "is it worth it?" war about the Dreamcast games, but just a couple quick thoughts...

We have seen some ports of Dreamcast games already -- Wasn't both HydroThunder and Rush 2049 on Midway Arcade Vol. 3 (poorly done) ports of the Dreamcast games? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I heard that.

The other thing is that I can see *some* games coming to Xbox live, but not 50. If you eliminate the sports titles (licenses expired) and the titles that didn't do very well, which I really doubt they would bother porting, I bet you could come up with 10-20 that would be good for a port from both the standpoint of Microsoft and Sega.

Why would Sega be willing to stick on there when they can still make money off them -- the Sonic Adventure series did really well on the GameCube for instance. A Live port for $10.00? Just doesn't seem like they would allow Sonic to go that route. It would be big for Microsoft, but could seriously injure Sega.

Chu Chu Rocket with Live would be a smash hit, and since Chu Chu doesn't have an audience for a real disk anymore (And it could be argued that it never really did, as the original game while it was absolutely incredibly fun never even dented sales charts), and I think it would be great on Live. I don't know offhand of what else would be great. Could it happen? Sure. Do I think it will be more than a handful? No.

It is a very interesting idea however, and would seriously injure Nintendo's Revolution if Microsoft could land someone to offer old console games -- maybe Genesis, Turbografx, or even more obscure things like the Jaguar and 3DO. If they got enough interesting stuff, it would make the 360 a lot more attractive.

[esquire]

With respect to the Dreamcast games being downloadable on XBOX Live, I am surprised no one is discussing the obvious - the diminutive size of the 360 HD. Granted its 20 GB, but its still way too small by today's standards and over 1/3 of it is filled with preloaded crap. Add on all your other demos, movies, trailers and music, and there is simply not going to be enough room to hold 10 Dreamcast games on your HD, at least not the very good ones. Sure games that aren't complex or large in ISO size like Chu-Chu Rocket may fit, but games like Soul Calibur, Daytona USA, Outtrigger, etc are going to take up a lot of space unless they downsample music and videos, or cut out content. I forget the actual size of a GD-Rom, the media used for DC games, but I know its more than a CD (650-700 MB). Multiply that x 10 and that's going to eat up at least 7 GB of your HD.

[Sylentwulf]

With respect to the Dreamcast games being downloadable on XBOX Live, I am surprised no one is discussing the obvious - the diminutive size of the 360 HD. Granted its 20 GB, but its still way too small by today's standards and over 1/3 of it is filled with preloaded crap. Add on all your other demos, movies, trailers and music, and there is simply not going to be enough room to hold 10 Dreamcast games on your HD, at least not the very good ones. Sure games that aren't complex or large in ISO size like Chu-Chu Rocket may fit, but games like Soul Calibur, Daytona USA, Outtrigger, etc are going to take up a lot of space unless they downsample music and videos, or cut out content. I forget the actual size of a GD-Rom, the media used for DC games, but I know its more than a CD (650-700 MB). Multiply that x 10 and that's going to eat up at least 7 GB of your HD.

Actually, I did kind of mention it -
24 games, probably 5-6 at a time, and lose them when I want new ones. Got it, just checking. I was thinking hard drive space.

RE: Yago - you're not GOING to go out and buy these, you're going to download them, giving them absolutely zero collectible value.

[Griking]

nevermind

[Daria]

There's a big difference between play-asia and eBay. eBay is an auction site. Do you judge the value of a car by what it's sold at an auction? No..

But you do judge the value of antiques and works of art by what they sell for at auction. Course we're talking Sotheby's and not ebay. But the point still stands. I'm not about to pretend that dreamcast games compare to priceless collectibles but the only way to really determine any item's worth is to find the average value based on the ending totals of the item or similar items sold at auction. In this manner you're directly weighing value against public demand.

[Daria]

If a game on average auctions for much less then it's listed for at Gamestop, then Gamestop is overcharging because demand is not reflecting their price tag. The game will not sell quickly, and wehn it does it will be to a customer who either values the convince of a brick and mortar store or is simply ignorant of the game's value. Similarly if a game sells for much more on Ebay then at Gamestop you'll find the game snatched up very quickly because obviously that customer is either saving money or about to make a good profit online.

[Daria]

Gamestop prices generally reflect those of ebay not because they're setting the values, but because it would make bad buisness sense not to.

That said $10 for any good game playable over live with a group of friends is a great deal regardless if the original copy sells for $49 or 49cents.

((Sorry for the retarded three tiered message, but my computer won't let me post long replies since we set up the router to XboX Live))