The 'Super' Nintendo? : The day the Nintendo cried.

[Veepa]

I believe it was a mistake to name Nintendo's 2nd major console "Super Nintendo"... Not because it is a particularly bad name. Because it would forever ruin the Nintendo Entertainment System's good name.

What I mean is... Before the Super Nintendo arrived you referred to a Nintendo Entertainment System game.. just as a Nintendo game... But after games suddenly became "super", people thought NES games were just... "plain", or "regular."

That's right... I hate it when people call them "regular nintendo" games or "plain nintendo" games.. It gets me so mad.. The Nintendo Entertainment system is neither regular nor plain! It's a fantastic system. Stupid people.......I'm done.

[Richter Belmount]

Wow does it matter that much?

[Teknik_SE-R]

yeah, I don't think its meant in a derrogatory manner. No need to get so flamed about nomenclature.

I just think it was a way of differentiating. I remember saying "nintendo" back in the day, but when the SNES came out, it was "regular nintendo" and "super nintendo".

But i thought it sounded weird saying "regular nintendo", cuz i thought the nes was just as good as the snes. Back then I didn't know what "graphics" were nor did i care, I just knew what was fun to play and what wasn't.

[CrimsonNugget]

People say "regular Sega" or "Sega" in reference to the Genesis too. It's just the lingo, man.

[Steven]

heh... I think you (original poster) are taking this a little too seriously, mate. Lighten up! :)

[retroman]

nintendo or regular nintendo who cares...same great games, so does it matter that much?

[Nez]

Doesn't bother me although I say NES insteadof regular nintendo.

[heyricochet]

Doesn't bother me although I say NES insteadof regular nintendo.

Yeah, I've never heard of regular nintendo, its just NES and games.

[Berserker]

I think the elusive answer to all the questions posed here is that it actually doesn't matter much at all.

[Daria]

I usually just say "original Nintendo" or NES when differentiating between the two systems. Although I've been known to say "regular Nintendo" as well. Never thought of it as an insult though. You're just being a little too uptight about it.

[Push Upstairs]

I don't really think it matters all that much really.

But we should be thankful the N64 didnt end up being called the "ULTRA NINTENDO".

[exit]

I remember calling NES regular nintendo back in the day, but now I usually refer to it as old school NES. Back then there was only NES,SNES, and Gameboy so it was an easier way of saying it.

[scooterb23]

Well, if it bothers you that much, why not call the NES "The Super Fantastic Nintendo"? That way the Super Nintendo will look blah in comparison...

[njiska]

Hey i'm all for an absolutely pointless, unprovoked rant (god knows i'm guilty of thousands) but this one's a little out there even for me.

First of all if people call them regualer Nintendo games it's certainly not ment as an insult to all that the system has done, even thought they themselves probably do no care.

Anytime you have a shared name it's bound to happen. DVD's will be known as regular DVDs in the era of HD DVD. Xbox games are already being know and Regular Xbox Games.

Regular Nintendo is just ment to imply that it's a regular (read as more commonly owned) NES, not the fancier Super NES.

It's not something to get worked up over.

[whoisKeel]

I call it old nintendo. That's what it is, old and nintendo. It's just easier to differentiate that way, especially when talking to people outside of old nintendo circles ;)

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

This begs the following question:

Super Nintendo vs. Atari 5200 Supersystem.

Which was more super?

[nik]

I usually call it "normal nintendo", first becasue then people know what nintendo I was talking about... and super NES was really super damnit.

Clark Kent is good, but superman had all the *BLAM* *WA-POW* *BOING*

[badinsults]

Blah, the Super Nintendo was better in almost every way from the original NES. I find your rant to be baseless.

[Fuyukaze]

How about this, as the "regular" nintendo system refrence upsets you when someone speaks about it and the SNES, how about we call it the realy big and thin cart that's mostly grey, sometimes black, a few times blue, cart system who's played on a toaster looking thingie. If that's longer then you would care for, then I offer this second choice. system 1(1 being optional as one can use any of the numbers between 0-9 and even include aditional didgets from such a pool as to give it the apearance of having added value). True, this method leaves much to be desired as it gives no indication as to the company that made the system, but it is just generic enough as to not include the words super, ultra, extreme, xtreme, incredable, master, miricle, wonder, entertainment, system, or any other words you may find offensive.

Or, we could simply call it what we want, respect that someone else wants to call our beloved systems something then what we ourselves call it, and move on. Personaly, I call my system my blinking toaster.

[njiska]

Blah, the Super Nintendo was better in almost every way from the original NES. I find your rant to be baseless.

I beleive his rant was about the NES's impact on society and the industry, not it's power or capabilities.

[Nesmaster]

Reminds me of that "plain" and "milk chocolate" M&M fiasco that went on a few years back.

Needless to say, Yeah I refer to the NES as regular, or original to other people who may not be as in the know as some of us. If you just say nintendo to these people it could mean anything videogame related :/

[DigitalSpace]

I usually refer to it as the NES, while most of my friends call it the "8-bit Nintendo."

Imo, "Super Nintendo" was the best name given to any of Nintendo's consoles. "Nintendo Entertainment System" is a pretty close second, though.

[Kroogah]

I agree completely. "New Nintendo System That We Shall Not Apply Any Adjectives To Lest It Tarnish The Good Name Of The Nintendo Entertainment System" is far more appropriate.

As an aside, whenever one of my friends refers to the Nintendo Entertainment System's Game Paks as "regular nintendo games" or (God Forbid) "nintendo tapes" I sternly criticize their usage of such plebian language. Idiots.

[jajaja]

I dont quite understand this thread. If someone calls it regular or plain Nintendo games, why would the Nintendo cry?
I wouldnt even use energy to get agry about something like this, its just a waste of energy.

[Felixthegamer]

I still call it nes, but I have never been bothered when a friend or whomever refers to it as "normal nintendo" or anything like that. As long as we can communicate with each other and understand what system is what, it doesn't really matter to me

[GrandAmChandler]

I prefer the term "01D SK001" Nintendo.

But that's just me.

[googlefest1]

yes actualy - the first day this happened the super nintendo balled it's controler ports out

[Ed Oscuro]

WHEN PEOPLE CAL THE NES A "REGULAR NINTENDO"...I GO A LITTLE CRAZY :snipersmile: *_*

last guy who did it got a tank ful of sugar :rockets: :rockets:

he did it AGAIN so I knifed his tires :angry: all four :2gunfire: his sorry ass aint goin nowhere

I police the Nintendo world and keep the NintenGods happy. sometimes they require a sacrifice :love:
.... Kaz Hirai can't get it up by himself :embarrassed: :evil:

TO ALL OF YOU who call the NINTENDO ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM by other names... :fist: :fist: :fist:

Don't call game machines wrong names! :grumble:

If you do, remember that I Ed Oscuro will take you to the bank...the blood bank. 8-)

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/images/avatars/7742824743eaaff95304b.png GOD BLESS!!!

[johno590]

LOL Oh jeez. I call the Nintendo a "regular nintendo" all the time, or just NES.... who cares it's just a name.

I'm not saying regular nintendo to be like "Hey NES you're a piece of junk, you're just regular."

[Captain Wrong]

This is my new favorite thread.

[Ed Oscuro]

This is my new favorite thread.
i don't think you understand the gravity of the situation

[rbudrick]

Whwere the hell is that horse smiley?....dammit.

<shufflles, shuffles a bit more, digs around, shuffles, looks around, papers and crap piled everywhere, digs some more, hmmm>

Oh, that's right. Here it is:

:deadhorse:

-Rob

[Oobgarm]

Hey Ed, have you played any good old regular plain Nintendo tapes recently?

I must know.

[Ed Oscuro]

Whwere the hell is that horse smiley?....dammit.

<shufflles, shuffles a bit more, digs around, shuffles, looks around, papers and crap piled everywhere, digs some more, hmmm>

Oh, that's right. Here it is:

:deadhorse:

-Rob
That's what's gonna happen to Oobgarm if he keeps disrespectin' THE Nintendo Entertainment System!!!!

[zerohero]

Well the Super Nintendo was "Super"... Graphic wise, controller wise, game wise, it was something I had never seen or experienced before.

When I say regular Nintendo it doesn't mean " Piece of crap NES", its just an easier way of saying the "older" NES. Heck, sometimes I just say NES, just depends.

Wasn't the NES in japan called the "Super Famicom" ?

[Ed Oscuro]

Wasn't the NES in japan called the "Super Famicom" ?
Just Famicom.

The Super NES was called the Super Famicom, or SFC for short.

Nice that they made things easy for us cross-regionally, unlike Sega :P

[SirDrexl]

As an aside, whenever one of my friends refers to the Nintendo Entertainment System's Game Paks as "regular nintendo games" or (God Forbid) "nintendo tapes"

Yeah, I remember people referring to the games as "tapes." LOL


Anytime you have a shared name it's bound to happen. DVD's will be known as regular DVDs in the era of HD DVD. Xbox games are already being know and Regular Xbox Games.

Yeah, it's like how people call the original PlayStation the PSone, even though that name actually refers to a specific revision of the console that wasn't released until after the PS2 had gained a foothold in the market.

This unwillingness to call something "regular" happens with other foods too: potato chips are called "classic" flavor, and Doritos has a plain variety they call "Toasted Corn." Unbuttered popcorn is often called "natural" flavor.

[Captain Wrong]

This is my new favorite thread.
i don't think you understand the gravity of the situation

I understand gravity. If I drop a Super Nintendo and a Just Average Nintendo from a tall building, they fall at the same speed. That's gravity.

[Ed Oscuro]

Yeah, well, Gallileo was WRONG. He didn't have a Nintendo Entertainment System to test with, and his findings are thus flawed.

I also highly doubt he would've dropped that NES! Maybe the world would be a better place if he learned physics from Castlevania.

[Veepa]

Alright, alright! So it doesn't matter.. It still bothers me for some reason. Not only because it seems insulting the the NES, but because it just sounds damn weird.

[Ed Oscuro]

Zen of the Classic Gaming Collector: When they say "Playing Sega" or "Playing Regular Nintendo," think of all the games they might have that you can snag for cheap.

No pain, no gain, right? At least in your case.

[Zing]

I have always said "Nintendo" and "Super Nintendo". When writing/typing it is simply NES or SNES.

I feel the name Super Nintendo was a great choice. It had the same great gameplay as the NES, but with exponentially better sound and graphics. Super!

...and yes the SNES is the best Nintendo system, ever.

[googlefest1]

Alright, alright! So it doesn't matter.. It still bothers me for some reason. Not only because it seems insulting the the NES, but because it just sounds damn weird.

why would insulting the nes bother you - are you a nes?

[poloplayr]

I believe it was a mistake to name Nintendo's 2nd major console "Super Nintendo"... Not because it is a particularly bad name. Because it would forever ruin the Nintendo Entertainment System's good name.

What I mean is... Before the Super Nintendo arrived you referred to a Nintendo Entertainment System game.. just as a Nintendo game... But after games suddenly became "super", people thought NES games were just... "plain", or "regular."

That's right... I hate it when people call them "regular nintendo" games or "plain nintendo" games.. It gets me so mad.. The Nintendo Entertainment system is neither regular nor plain! It's a fantastic system. Stupid people.......I'm done.

per definition the SNES was Super compared to the NES.

[Lothars]

I think this is a strange thread, I've always called the nintendo a NES

it's been like that forever, so I think your blowing it all out of proportion

[Teknik_SE-R]

Alright, alright! So it doesn't matter.. It still bothers me for some reason. Not only because it seems insulting the the NES, but because it just sounds damn weird.

why would insulting the nes bother you - are you a nes?

If someone insults your mother and you are offended, do you automatically become your mother?

[Slimedog]

Actually, the Nintendo naming schemes for consoles has always irked me too. Not for the "regular" thing, but because of the lame ass prefix/suffix that has to be added to all the game names. Having "Super" as the first word for half my SNES library really makes it a pain to find things. The others aren't much better, but at least 64/DX/Advance/DS came at the end. When I heard about the Gamecube, I was sure they would toss a little 3 after all of the names.

[Push Upstairs]

Yes the "SUPER" when naming games was overly silly and was nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

"Its SUPER Castlevania 4"

WTF?

[googlefest1]

Alright, alright! So it doesn't matter.. It still bothers me for some reason. Not only because it seems insulting the the NES, but because it just sounds damn weird.

why would insulting the nes bother you - are you a nes?

If someone insults your mother and you are offended, do you automatically become your mother?

uh no i dont become my mother - how does this compare?

im not one to have a familial relationship with an inanimate object either

[Captain Wrong]

Yeah, well, Gallileo was WRONG. He didn't have a Nintendo Entertainment System to test with, and his findings are thus flawed.

I also highly doubt he would've dropped that NES! Maybe the world would be a better place if he learned physics from Castlevania.

Everything I know about physics, I learned from Duck Tails.

[MichaeltheGreat]

It makes me mad too. I'm working on modding out my NES and I want to call it the "Super NES". Kinda sucks that the name's already taken... :(

[mario2butts]

You know, I have to agree with the original poster on this one.

For as long as I can remember I have called the NES the "Regular Nintendo." I don't WANT to, mind you. But I have to, or else people get confused. I've tried saying NES, but people just go "buh? Anywhat?" until I say "Regular Nintendo" and then they understand.

But the OP is absolutely right, it IS insulting to the NES. The NES is an incredible console, it doesn't deserve to be called regular. The same goes for the PlayStation when its referred to as the PS1. Calling the PlayStation the PS1 affirms the existence of the PS2, and since 2>1, the PlayStation is suggested to be inferior. It drives me nuts. Same with Xbox and Xbox 360.

Tacking the word "original" in front of a console's name is probably the best thing to do, really. I think I'll do that from now on.

Don't even get me started on calling the Genesis (Mega Drive) a "Sega." Once, back in middle school, I decided to educate a friend of mine on this matter...

"When I get home, I'm going to play my Sega."
"A Sega what, praytell?"
"Um, you know, a Sega."
"Reeeeealy? I didn't know you had a Master System!!"
"uhhh... what?"
"Oh, I too find the SATURN to be VERY ENJOYABLE!!"
"dude..."
"What's that? A DREAMCAST you say?! Well, looks like I'll have to stop by YOUR HOUSE after SCHOOL!!"
"..."
"I believe you are referring to the Sega GENESIS."
"um... yeah."
"So say it right next time."
"Dude, you're messed up."

Yes, I know it's trivial, but dammit, it annoys me. Props to the OP for bringing attention to this injustice.

[dreamcaster]

The SNES deserves is 'Super' title as it's so much better than the clumsy, archaic, over-rated 8-bit behemoth.*



*It's no secret of mine that I don't really like the NES.

[Veepa]

Alright, alright! So it doesn't matter.. It still bothers me for some reason. Not only because it seems insulting the the NES, but because it just sounds damn weird.

why would insulting the nes bother you - are you a nes?

If someone insults your mother and you are offended, do you automatically become your mother?

uh no i dont become my mother - how does this compare?

im not one to have a familial relationship with an inanimate object either

The NES had to raise me,.. my mother was a drunk you see.

[hydr0x]

Everything I know about physics, I learned from Duck Tails.

wow, just imagine how much you'd know if you'd have watched Duck Tales instead

[Bronty-2]

'the day nintendo cried'? Holy melodrama :)

I just don't think it's that big an issue.

[Ulticron]

If you really want something that will annoy you try talking to ppl about the Sega Saturn.

Me:"Man the Saturn was an awesome system!"
Other Person: "Yeah I had Sonic 2 for that an some other games on it."
Me: "That was the Genesis!"

Or scenario 2

Me: "Man the Saturn was an awesome system!"
Other Person "No it wasn't! When that thing came out in 99 all they had was that really crapy 3D Sonic game!"
Me: "That was the Dreamcast!"

Now that's annoying.

As for the whole Nintendo thing. It's always been one of the following NES, 8-Bit Nintendo, Nintendo, VS SNES or Super Nintendo. Never called the ol toaster box plain or regular.

[Ed Oscuro]

@ Slimedog and Push Upstairs

Yes the "SUPER" when naming games was overly silly and was nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

"Its SUPER Castlevania 4"

WTF?
Easy there dudes. Aside from Super Mario Bros., Sega really got the whole "super" thing started. Revenge of Shinobi? The Super Shinobi, in Japan. Super Fantasy Zone. Super Thunder Blade. Super Every-Fuckin'-Thing.

So, it's not that terrible. Nintendo was just getting back that...super feeling, I guess.

[Veepa]

So, here's a thought.. why didn't they call the 64: Super Duper Nintendo?

[Ed Oscuro]

So, here's a thought.. why didn't they call the 64: Super Duper Nintendo?
Because that would've been lame, duh

[zerohero]

Yes the "SUPER" when naming games was overly silly and was nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

"Its SUPER Castlevania 4"

WTF?

And you bought it didn't you ;)

[Push Upstairs]

Yes the "SUPER" when naming games was overly silly and was nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

"Its SUPER Castlevania 4"

WTF?

And you bought it didn't you ;)

Actually, no.

I don't personally own an SNES (my girlfriends system is on extended borrow) and to this day i still don't own Castlevania 4.

I suppose if we wanted to get technical on the use of the term "Super" then it falls back again on Nintendo for the use of "Super Mario Brothers".

I just feel that alof of SNES games tended to have "Super" on just for the sake of having it there.

"Super Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back"? What exactly is "Super" about it?

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

Well, the "Super" seems to be modifying "Star Wars" there, so one can only assume that it is a foul and disrespectful slight upon "The Empire Strikes Back," and the two shall have to have a duel at ten paces before sundown tomorrow. One will reclaim its honor...the other will wind up on the ground, a mangled heap of celluloid bleeding developing fluid.

"Revenge Of The Sith" will officiate.

[nik]

I like it when people ask "didn't sega come before nintendo?" maybe since "MEGAdrive" came out first, they tossed in SUPER to beat the crap out of MEGA.

[Teknik_SE-R]

So, here's a thought.. why didn't they call the 64: Super Duper Nintendo?
Because that would've been lame, duh

yeah. kinda like mega drive... ha ha ha :P O_O :embarrassed:

[zerohero]

Most game system names are lame anyway if you think about it.

Playstation..... I'll let you figure that one out
Playstation... 2...... Yea I'll let you figure that one out
Xbox... Another "X" treme what ever
Xbox 360... Oxymoron in itself
NEO GEO.... huh?
N64 - 64what? ooh bits....




The coolest names had to be
SEGA Genesis
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
Super Nintendo ( Yes the name is cool)
Jaguar
Gameboy
Gamecube ( Sounds kiddie, but just right)


You see next to the NES, the SNES is super. It was above, and beyond. Its like you guys are trying to say NES " Metriod" is better than SNES's "SUPER Metriod"... Negative. The Super does not mean that the NES Sucks, but it has it's susessor the SNES has surpassed it.

[Zing]

Nintendo has always bother me with their game naming scheme. How many N64 games had "64" in the name? Sometimes it seems like every DS game has DS in the name. This goes for the GBA as well: "Blah blah Advance".

It probably has more to do with them rehashing the same old games over and over than anything else. Titles like "Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3" make me puke in my mouth.

It is interesting that the GameCube doesn't have this affliction. I guess they couldn't think of a way to slap that on every game name. I bet the guy who originally decided on the name "GameCube" ended up getting fired for that.

[Ed Oscuro]

Nintendo has always bother me with their game naming scheme. How many N64 games had "64" in the name?
You tell me. Off the top of my head...Super Mario 64, Ogre Battle 64, Starfox 64, and maybe Wave Race. I can think of a ton of first-party Nintendo games that didn't, though.

[Ed Oscuro]

NEO GEO.... huh?
Neo, as in "new," and "Geo" is related to "mega shock," such as you get when an earthquake hits you. It's a geology term.

Makes perfect sense to me ;D

[zerohero]

NEO GEO.... huh?
Neo, as in "new," and "Geo" is related to "mega shock," such as you get when an earthquake hits you. It's a geology term.

Makes perfect sense to me ;D

I don't think most consumers will be looking for an intellectual philisophical meaning to a new gaming system when purchasing it... I'll admit the "Geo" part does make it sound intresting when understanding the meaning... to bad they had a high price cap though LOL

[smokehouse]

Often, when a new system comes out they are sometimes a completely different system than the one made before it (EX: Genesis to Saturn, completely different systems). Sometimes this is not true. I look at it this way; the Super Nintendo is a sequel to the NES, not a different system but an upgrade. The SNES was nothing revolutionary; it was however a great upgrade. Super Mario 3 to Super Mario World, Metroid to Super Metroid, Zelda to Zelda ALttP, Castlevania 3 to Super Castlevania IV, Contra to Contra III, Final Fantasy to Final Fantasy II…

You get the point. All the great NES titles were there but…in super form. To me it is a super charged NES. Like a Mustang and Mustang GT, for the most part it’s the same car but one is bigger and better. The N64 (slated to be called the Ultra 64 before Nintendo found out the name was taken) was a completely different system, thus the name change. I think it’s the same way with the PS1 and PS2 and the Xbox (worst-name-EVER) and the Xbox 360. They aren’t huge departures, they are simply upgrades.




Oh, and for some reason I always though Neo Geo stood for “new earth”.

[Teknik_SE-R]

I always thought neo geo stood for "new geometry" or something. as in "newer better graphics"

smokehouse got it right if you ask me. you can lock the thread now. jk

[Red Hedgehog]

I have to admit that I got pretty annoyed when my roommate's girlfriend kept calling the NES "ghetto Nintendo" as "ghetto" implies poor, inferior, etc. I don't really have any problem with calling it "regular Nintendo" to differentiate as that to me just seems like a way of saying that it didn't have an addition to the name Nintendo (like "Super", for example). I, on the other hand, usually call it NES, original Nintendo, or (gasp) what I called it when it first came out: Nintendo.

I learned my fear of bats and birds from Ninja Gaiden.

[GameSlaveGaz]

I usually just say "original Nintendo" or NES when differentiating between the two systems. Although I've been known to say "regular Nintendo" as well. Never thought of it as an insult though. You're just being a little too uptight about it.

Same here. I'll say SNES and NES if I'm talking to a fellow gamer, and Super Nintendo and Original Nintendo when talking to a casual or non-gamer. If I just say Nintendo, it confuses some non-gamers. Especially the ones that think GameBoy is a separate brand name. It comes up quite often at my store because some parent will complain that their kid has XBox, PS2, GameCube, GameBoy and DS and now wants a PSP and I'll say, "you think that's bad? I have 15 systems." And they're always like "15?!!" and then I list them off. 15 isn't much compared to the hardcore collectors in this forum but to a parent who's not in the loop and only vaguely remembers the systems of the 80s and 90s if they even remember them at all, that's quite a shocker. I always get the "daamn" LOL.

[Ed Oscuro]

NEO GEO.... huh?
Neo, as in "new," and "Geo" is related to "mega shock," such as you get when an earthquake hits you. It's a geology term.

Makes perfect sense to me ;D

I don't think most consumers will be looking for an intellectual philisophical meaning to a new gaming system when purchasing it... I'll admit the "Geo" part does make it sound intresting when understanding the meaning... to bad they had a high price cap though LOL
Actually, I just wrote down some BS.

What's scary is that probably was the intended meaning...