Shipping gouging

[Mayhem]

Thought I'd ask peoples' advice here...

Just won a single normal Gamecube game from a seller in the US. Not only is he refusing to let me have the game shipped anywhere apart from to the UK (even though I asked for it to be sent within the US), but he's also charging me $25 (between shipping cost and "insurance") to send it.

Maybe he just hates foreign bidders. He even had the cheek to say I had to email him before bidding because I was a foreign bidder, even though nowhere in the text of the auction does it actually say so (and if you want to go read, I'll post the link for it).

Even though I've protested, he is threatening me with a NPD mark if I don't pay. I've pretty much threatened him to report him back if the shipping doesn't cost anywhere near $25. That's assuming I do actually pay.

My question is, has anyone actually ever done that to eBay? Report a seller when the actual shipping cost is way lower than you were charged for? If so, what happened?

[Jed]

It's really hard to pull something like that off. Any time the question comes up, the sellers spout all sorts of info about every little cost they have.

$25 - $7 to ship it is $18

$18 - $5 in eBay/Paypal fees is $13

$13 - $4 in gas money because they live 30 miles away from the post office is $9

$9 - $2 for packing materials is $7

$7 - $6 for the lunch he ate that day leaves $1.

It's sad how that works, but there's not a lot you can do. The only time it really comes into play is if it's ridiculously overdone. Like, a one cent video game with $99 shipping. Then eBay gets pissed because they're losing money. If it's a $70 game with $25 shipping, then they don't care; they've gotten their large slice.

All in all, it's a tough world. Buyers can screw sellers, sellers can screw buyers, and eBay just laughs while the money rolls in. Personally, I'd at least try. Refuse to pay, and if he files an NPB, report to eBay how he was being a pretentious dick and trying to rape you in shipping charges. Good luck.

[jajaja]

Is he charging you $25 to ship from US to UK? Or do you have an address in the US also? If hes shipping to UK with insurance $25 is the about the right price. Its the price for EMS.

Check http://ircalc.usps.gov/

If its a common game i would never pay $25. I would take the chance and get it sent with airmail or Global Priority Mail.

[Darth Sensei]

I know it doesn't help you Mayhem, but I NEVER bid without a set shipping amount especially when the seller is from another country.

[Mayhem]

Regarding that Cuewarrior, considering when I sell I do it worldwide, I'm not about to quote 14 different prices in my auction for all possibilities of buyer I could have ;)

(and yes it can be up to that if I'm selling something over a couple of pounds)

I usually state "if you wish to know shipping to your location, please email". There's also the fact that the buyer might want it to go surface instead of airmail, if they want insurance etc, so too many combinations.

@Jajaja - personally it should be down to the buyer (ie. me) to choose the shipping method. EMS is bunt if you are shipping stuff under a couple of pounds, because it just isn't worth it. So much for me trying to ask to have it sent Global Priority envelope for $7 instead (and no insurance, not worth it on a $30 item).

[kevin_psx]

Thought I'd ask peoples' advice here...

Link to auction? Based on the little info given I agree with the seller. Were I the seller would not ship to an unconfirmed U.S. address. You might later claim "item not delivered"

[jajaja]

Ye. Some seller only ships with EMS because of worldwide tracking. Did he mention anything about this?

I know Ebay have a own category about sellers charging too much in shipping. I filled out a complaint myself, didnt help much. You will most likely only get the standard answer: "Contact the seller before placing the bid etc etc.."

Check this (http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/result_2_5_10.html?item=&dsturl=http%3A%2F%2Fpages.ebay.com%2Fhelp%2Fcontac t_us%2F_base%2Findex.html&tier0=%5Bobject+Object%5D&tier1=result_2_5_10&continue=Continue+%3E)

[johno590]

I would like to see a link to this auction. If the seller doesn't have anything listed in his auction about the shipping price then I think you're up shit creek without a paddle.

I would think he can pretty much ship it whatever way he feels comfortable (I would too if I were in his situation... but I don't ship worldwide)

But goodluck with this, maybe you can convince him to ship it a different method.

[Mayhem]

Well indeed, I might just ask him how it will be shipped. Or find out when it arrives (should I pay). If it ain't EMS, then it definitely is shipping rip off time me thinks. He even told me he has "removed" his "handling fees" on this price as well (which were $6.50 originally! X_x ).

As you can see, none of this is listed anywhere in the auction listing...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8257708610

It even actually says "postal insurance not included" in rhe listing, and then he is trying to force me to have it for shipping of this item (btw the shipping is $16 and the insurance cost is $9 in the breakdown).

[scooby105]

I see no problem with $25 for shipping. He states for all international buyers to email him and he only takes payment via paypal. If the buyer is paying via paypal, the package NEEDS to be shipped via Express Mail so there is tracking. I only ship via Express for all packages going out of country when the buyer pays via paypal. If the buyer wants to send payment via money order, I'll send it surface mail if they'd like.

[kevin_psx]

He even had the cheek to say I had to email him before bidding because I was a foreign bidder, even though nowhere in the text of the auction does it actually say so

No he does not. Ask him "Where does it say that?" He won't be able to provide an answer-- since it does not exist!

Here's how I ship. Your seller could ship far less than $25.00:

FOREIGN INSURED:
============

$2.50 HANDLING
+ $10.95 UK (8.50 Post + 0.25 envelope + 0.25 Gasoline + 1.95 insurance)
=================================
$13.45



FOREIGN TRACKING:
=============

$2.50 HANDLING
+16.75 GLOBAL EXPRESS ($16.25 + 0.25 envelope + 0.25 Gasoline)
================================
$19.25



where "handling" = paypal/ebay fees for $25 game

[Mayhem]

No he does not. Ask him "Where does it say that?"

I did. He dodged answering that question entirely.

[kevin_psx]

Ask again.

And again.

If a Seller makes a "claim" that you should have emailed first, ask for documentation of that claim. If he ignores the second email requesting documentation, send a reply to the Original Seller email:

">>>You have to email first before bidding"

"This claim is invalid. No such restriction exists in the listing." Don't let Sellers (or buyers) push you around with false statements.




And show the Seller he could ship the game to you for only $14.00 using my math example.

[Ed Oscuro]

Guys, I reported some auction for a $.99 game with $10 shipping two days ago.

Doesn't need to be $99 for eBay to take action. They know what's what.

[XianXi]

Is he charging you $25 to ship from US to UK? Or do you have an address in the US also? If hes shipping to UK with insurance $25 is the about the right price. Its the price for EMS.

Check http://ircalc.usps.gov/

If its a common game i would never pay $25. I would take the chance and get it sent with airmail or Global Priority Mail.

you honestly think he will ship EMS? No, he will ship air letter post or via flat rate global priority if anything.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Well, I'll give my input on this.

Last week I shipped an item and charged about $19 for shipping. I thought it would be that high... but when I went to the post office, it ended up being $13 bucks via Small Package Post (Airmail Letter). So I apologized to the buyer and gave him a partial refund (about $5.90 or so).

I overquote sometimes; I do this because the post office won't let me ship stuff on Airmail Letter sometimes. Other times I ship stuff via Global Priority Mail (US to Europe) because it's cheaper than parcel. I'm not excusing the guy, he should at least give you more than one option and discuss a way to reduce the cost with you. In my case, if a shipping option is too high, I'll notify the buyer and give him a detailed account of the shipping costs. If he doesn't want to pay and I can't find a way to make shipping cheaper without damaging the item, I suggest we simply cancel the transaction because we couldn't reach an agreement. I don't leave negatives without a good reason. I know it's supposed to be a contract but I don't have to be an asshole about it, you know?

Note that many of the problems I've had with buyers complaining about international shipping are due to the fact that they NEVER contact me to ask about the cost... Which is why I added "INTERNATIONAL BIDDERS PLEASE CONTACT ME BEFORE BIDDING TO CALCULATE SHIPPING COSTS!" in big, bold letters to every auction. I'd use Marquee and blink tags but that would be overkill. (Maybe not.)

I suggest you go to eBay and complain. Everyone here's given enough proof he's charging too much, and if he's not willing to compromise, then... boom. Report him.

[kevin_psx]

Easier to charge a flat rate of $15 international for games/dvds.

imho

[Mayhem]

If something costs $X to ship to the UK, then fair enough, I don't have a problem paying what it costs.

It's the fact that:

- he refuses to let me know HOW he will be shipping it
- he refuses to let me know what the SIZE and WEIGHT of the package is

So with any of that info, I could work out for myself what it should cost, and/or suggest alternate method instead. The fact he isn't letting onto that info to me does suggest he's creaming off the shipping. And if he doesn't actually know that information, then how on earth can he give me a quote on how much it will cost...? ;)

And the fact he won't let me ship within the US, even though that address in question is registered as part of my eBay profile, compounds the suspicion. Send out with DC, what's the problem? You tell me...

[XianXi]

If something costs $X to ship to the UK, then fair enough, I don't have a problem paying what it costs.

It's the fact that:

- he refuses to let me know HOW he will be shipping it
- he refuses to let me know what the SIZE and WEIGHT of the package is

So with any of that info, I could work out for myself what it should cost, and/or suggest alternate method instead. The fact he isn't letting onto that info to me does suggest he's creaming off the shipping. And if he doesn't actually know that information, then how on earth can he give me a quote on how much it will cost...? ;)

And the fact he won't let me ship within the US, even though that address in question is registered as part of my eBay profile, compounds the suspicion. Send out with DC, what's the problem? You tell me...

I am in the same boat as you my friend. I live in Hawaii and some sellers don't know that Hawaii is in the US and say stuff like "It will cost $3 more since you live in Hawaii, thats international" mind you they are already charging $7 to ship via first class for a GBA game that only weighs 1.5 oz. You could ship that Priority for $4.05 up to 13oz before the price changes.

But what irritates me the most is when I ask "what method is this being shipped?" and then they give you a speech that tries to justify the shipping charge. I am just asking if it's going to be shipped 1st class, media mail, priority or parcel.

If the seller actually puts what method is going to be used in the auction then people wouldnt be asking these questions.

[Kitsune Sniper]

I am in the same boat as you my friend. I live in Hawaii and some sellers don't know that Hawaii is in the US and say stuff like "It will cost $3 more since you live in Hawaii, thats international" mind you they are already charging $7 to ship via first class for a GBA game that only weighs 1.5 oz. You could ship that Priority for $4.05 up to 13oz before the price changes.

But what irritates me the most is when I ask "what method is this being shipped?" and then they give you a speech that tries to justify the shipping charge. I am just asking if it's going to be shipped 1st class, media mail, priority or parcel.

If the seller actually puts what method is going to be used in the auction then people wouldnt be asking these questions.

The worst of those people are the ones that ship stuff via Media Mail to Hawaii. It usually takes 5-10 days to arrive within the US, but if it's to Hawaii (or Alaska, I assume) it would take more than two weeks.

I -avoid- sellers who state "Standard Flatrate Shipping". Dammit, they should tell me if it's being shipped by Media, Parcel, First Class or Priority. I won't pay $6 for Media bloody MAIL.

[XianXi]

I am in the same boat as you my friend. I live in Hawaii and some sellers don't know that Hawaii is in the US and say stuff like "It will cost $3 more since you live in Hawaii, thats international" mind you they are already charging $7 to ship via first class for a GBA game that only weighs 1.5 oz. You could ship that Priority for $4.05 up to 13oz before the price changes.

But what irritates me the most is when I ask "what method is this being shipped?" and then they give you a speech that tries to justify the shipping charge. I am just asking if it's going to be shipped 1st class, media mail, priority or parcel.

If the seller actually puts what method is going to be used in the auction then people wouldnt be asking these questions.

The worst of those people are the ones that ship stuff via Media Mail to Hawaii. It usually takes 5-10 days to arrive within the US, but if it's to Hawaii (or Alaska, I assume) it would take more than two weeks.

I -avoid- sellers who state "Standard Flatrate Shipping". Dammit, they should tell me if it's being shipped by Media, Parcel, First Class or Priority. I won't pay $6 for Media bloody MAIL.

Media to Hawaii is a minimum of 30 days, I won a broken SP I was gonna use to frontlight my NGPC won it the 14th of October seller said they would ship it priority prior to me bidding but saw that media said it would get here in 2-9 days so his wife chose that to save a buck or two. The package arrived at my door, no BS December 12th. That should kinda explain why I am very anal about my shipping methods.

Whenever anything is shipped to Hawaii via Parcel or Media it is a 2 week minimum since it gets here via boat. And if it is hurricane season then it may take longer due to the rough seas.

[Griking]

He even had the cheek to say I had to email him before bidding because I was a foreign bidder, even though nowhere in the text of the auction does it actually say so

No he does not. Ask him "Where does it say that?" He won't be able to provide an answer-- since it does not exist!

Copies directly from the seller's payment instructions in the auction listing;

"Multiple auction winners will receive an oppurtunity to combine shipping. To combine shipping for multiple items the winner of the auctions must email within 24 hours of winning the auction so I may calculate cost. All Payments are to be sent by paypal or money order/ cashiers checks. Cashiers checks/money order payments will ship 48 hours after payment has ckeared. INTL buyers must email me address for shipping and pay only by paypal"

[Darren870]

Was just about to say the same thing ^ ^ . I missed if the first time too, but its there.

[Mayhem]

And precisely, and I'm being literal here, where does it say I have to do it BEFORE I bid? It just tells me to email him my address for shipping, which I would expect to do if I won the auction because, like, he has to know where to send it to me.

Now if this phrase means, in American speak, that I had to do it before, well then he needs to be more explicit because it don't mean that to me! :roll:

[Darth Sensei]

No offense Mayhem, but I think you're screwed here.

[kevin_psx]

"INTL buyers must email me address for shipping and pay only by paypal"

Yes but where does it say "Seller even had the cheek to say I had to email him before bidding"??? It does not say that. Seller made it up.



And the fact he won't let me ship within the US, even though that address in question is registered as part of my eBay profile The seller can not refuse to ship to a registered Paypal address. Time to click "help" at the top of the window & ask ebay.

And then pay the item w/ the U.S. shiping amount w/ instruction to ship to your registered u.s. Paypal address. Then file "item not received" through paypal.

Time to stop playing games-- Use the tools Ebay/paypal makes available to deal with non-performing sellers.


(losing patience with ebay sellers)

[Mayhem]

The US address is registered in my eBay profile (ie. I can select it if I do CHECKOUT for example from the auction page). It's NOT sadly part of my Paypal profile because Paypal only allow you to register credit cards in ONE country maximum. And that happens to be the UK at the moment.

[Griking]

Yes but where does it say "Seller even had the cheek to say I had to email him before bidding"??? It does not say that. Seller made it up. "

Look, if you really want to be anal about it your right, I suppose it doesn't say to contact him for a quote before bidding. But I'd expect that most reasonable people would assume this and want to do this so they'd know what they were committing to when they bid. If you don't contact him and ask until after you've already bid on and won the auction then your opening yourself up for this kind of headache.


The seller can not refuse to ship to a registered Paypal address. Time to click "help" at the top of the window & ask ebay.

If the address he's asking the seller to ship to isn't the one listed and confirmed by PayPal then the seller most certainly can refuse to ship to it. In fact, he'd be a fool to do so since he'd loose any seller protection he may have had.

[Darth Sensei]

So if it's such a big deal have one of us pay for it with a confirmed US paypal addy.

However, after 2 shipping fees, paypal fees, etc I don't think you're goign to come out ahead anyway.

[kevin_psx]

Look, if you really want to be anal about it your right, I suppose it doesn't say to contact him for a quote before bidding.
Then how is the buyer supposed to know to contact the Seller "before bidding"?


The US address is registered in my eBay profile (ie. I can select it if I do CHECKOUT for example from the auction page). It's NOT sadly part of my Paypal profile
Isn't that "incorrect contact information" and a bannable offense on Ebay? Maybe you should do like me-- two registered credit cards w/ two separate addresses (work and home).

Seller can't refuse to ship to a unverified address on Paypal. You could still file "item not received".



Final suggestion: Say "I'll pay you this amount"

$2.50 HANDLING
+ $10.95 UK (8.50 Post + 0.25 envelope + 0.25 Gasoline + 1.95 insurance)
=================================
$13.45

"$15 max, not $25."



And I'm done.

[Mayhem]

Isn't that "incorrect contact information" and a bannable offense on Ebay? Maybe you should do like me-- two registered credit cards w/ two separate addresses (work and home).

I have both addresses listed in my eBay account; the UK one is the primary, and the US one is a secondary. It is known for people to own more than one house of course ;)

(okay, so that's NOT the case here, but just stating. My brother's last girlfriend was Australian, and her family had a home here in the UK, but also owned one back in Australia as well)

Even when it came down to it, he refused to let anyone but me pay for the item either, so having someone else do it and have it shipped within the US is out as well.

[XianXi]

Honestly if there is no quoted international shipping price you should contact the seller before bidding, if you win then ask, the seller can pretty much charge whatever he wants.

Happened to me once, I bid on a lot of instruction booklets. I won it at $1 but the seller had no shipping price posted. I bid because there was only 5 minutes left in the auction and it had no bids. Then I ask for the total and he tells me shipping is $30. I replied to him asking how is that $30 to ship for only 7 N64 instruction manuals? After a couple emails(7 or so) he brang it down to $10 which was still high but I was OK with it. Package came and postage was only $1.79 or so and was in a ziplock bag with masking tape.

[Mayhem]

Yeah this is the other thing. I only spotted the auction less than a day before it ended, so that may not have been long enough to get a reply anyhow (I've had sellers take 3 days to respond to questions before!).

[kevin_psx]

Have you followed any of the advice given?

[10incher]

I find its getting worse these days with sellers overcharging on shipping. Whatever happened to a little customer service? I buy and sell allot and sometimes add a few dollars to shipping just in case. If it comes out significantly less than what i charged I send the buyer a refund for the difference. I have a buddy who sometimes sells on Ebay and he is terrible. He actually brags about ripping buyers off with inflated shipping charges.

Being from canada, its got to the point that I have to email every auction i want to bid on for a shipping quote. Even when I bid on a small item and assume that shipping will be reasonable, i sometimes still get screwed. Come on, these sellers need to take a little extra effort with their sale! Buy a scale if you sell alot so you can get a correct weight or even use your bathroom scale. You can get accurate online quotes from UPS, USPS or any other shipping company.

My advice is to ALWAYS ask for a shipping quote before bidding if shipping to your country isn't listed and if you do get screwed, harass them until you get whats coming to you. if all else fails REPORT THEM TO EBAY!

[Mayhem]

Have you followed any of the advice given?

No point, he's already told me at this point that his shipping rates are non-negotiable. So either I pay the $25 or we go further down the line...

[briskbc]

The winner of his auction below was from Germany. Maybe contact him to see what he was charged for shipping. If the seller's non negotiable shipping rate is inconsistant then maybe you can get a bit of leverage there. This seller sounds like he won't budge so I doubt it.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8249116877

[LinkOracle]

I actually prefer if sellers just pick a set shipping quote and stick to it such as

US 4.50 canada 5.50 worldwide 7.50

even if its inflated, you know up front, and you have no excuse if you bid. I hate having to email sellers for shipping quotes, they should get their crap together and give you a quote first

[Kitsune Sniper]

I actually prefer if sellers just pick a set shipping quote and stick to it such as

US 4.50 canada 5.50 worldwide 7.50

even if its inflated, you know up front, and you have no excuse if you bid. I hate having to email sellers for shipping quotes, they should get their crap together and give you a quote first

...

Some of us don't have the luxury of sending stuff everywhere for that rate. Some countries are too expensive to ship to; if a buyer is really interested in an item, they'll email asking for a proper shipping quote. Simple as that.

[Griking]

Look, if you really want to be anal about it your right, I suppose it doesn't say to contact him for a quote before bidding.
Then how is the buyer supposed to know to contact the Seller "before bidding"?

If the auction doesn't specifically say what the shipping fee will be a responsible person will take it upon themselves to email the seller and ask before bidding. You of all people around here should know this by now after getting stuck paying $125 shipping for a bunch of PSx games.



I actually prefer if sellers just pick a set shipping quote and stick to it such as

US 4.50 canada 5.50 worldwide 7.50

even if its inflated, you know up front, and you have no excuse if you bid. I hate having to email sellers for shipping quotes, they should get their crap together and give you a quote first

Shipping to one country can cost significantly more than other countries.

Honestly, what's so hard about emailing the seller and asking for a shipping quote. That's what the "Ask Seller a Question" ability is for.

[Griking]

damn double post. I though there was a software update implemented to prevent this?

[Mayhem]

All I will say is that in over 7 years of being on eBay, this is only the second time I've encountered a seller who refuses to budge anywhere in terms of shipping costs. Everyone else has been fine, even if it's just telling me the size and weight so I can go verify myself. He's told me nothing, which doesn't lend itself very well to trust.

[kevin_psx]

If the auction doesn't specifically say what the shipping fee will be a responsible person will take it upon themselves to email the seller

I agree. But seller said "had to email him before bidding because I was a foreign bidder"

Nowhere in the auction does it say "have to"-- it's not a mandatory requirement.

[Griking]

If the auction doesn't specifically say what the shipping fee will be a responsible person will take it upon themselves to email the seller

I agree. But seller said "had to email him before bidding because I was a foreign bidder"

Nowhere in the auction does it say "have to"-- it's not a mandatory requirement.

And it's not a mandatory requirement. However if you choose not to email a seller beforehand for a quote you really have no right to complain about the shipping amount afterwards. Now if you had asked beforehand you would have had the option to negotiate or to just walk away, options you don't have once you bid.

[kevin_psx]

True. Good idea to ask first but Seller was wrong to say "HAD" to ask first. "SHOULD" ask first is more accurate.

And you do have right to complain--- Seller refuses to ship to your U.S. address listed in Paypal profile.

[Kitsune Sniper]

The US address is registered in my eBay profile (ie. I can select it if I do CHECKOUT for example from the auction page). It's NOT sadly part of my Paypal profile because Paypal only allow you to register credit cards in ONE country maximum. And that happens to be the UK at the moment.

His US address is on eBay, not Paypal. :P

[Mayhem]

Btw since the exchange I had with the seller regarding reporting them back if the shipping wasn't anywhere near $25 being asked, I've not heard a peep. Nothing. No sign of any report through eBay (yet) either for non-payment. Maybe he realises he can't bully me. Or maybe he just hasn't gotten around to it yet.

[kevin_psx]

Probably tired of you & decided it's easier to just ignore.
I have both addresses listed in my eBay account; the UK one is the primary, and the US one is a secondary. It is known for people to own more than one house of course Wink


List your U.S. address as a secondary address on paypal. Pay with that U.S. address.

Seller refuses.

File "non performing seller" dispute on ebay. Recommended this advice several days ago-- why are you not followinbg it?

[mcgrail0007@netzero.net]

If the seller sends this Global Express Mail it probably will cost the seller close to $25 to ship it. U.S. sellers are only protected under PayPal's seller protection policy if they ship using either FedEx, UPS, or Global Express Mail through the U.S. Post Office. The seller is not protected if they ship using airmail or surface. I know that it sucks but that is the case. I sent one cartridge (cartridge only) to Canada using Global Express Mail and it ended up costing more than $16. I sent it this way to be protected under PayPal's seller protection.

There are several sellers in the U.S. who will only ship to the U.K. using Global Express Mail. This guy doesn't know you. I typically only ship to the U.S. but I personally would make an exception for you because you have been around for years and have a great reputation. This guy doesn't know you and might be worried about getting a chargeback.

[Mayhem]

List your U.S. address as a secondary address on paypal. Pay with that U.S. address.

You can't. Paypal only allows you to register credit cards/addresses from ONE country per account, and that's currently the UK. eBay accounts don't seem to mind.

@McGrail - I understand what you are saying, but I would hope my feedback rating (99.9%) and length of time on there (over 7 years) might have counted for something :P

[suppafly]

List your U.S. address as a secondary address on paypal. Pay with that U.S. address.

You can't. Paypal only allows you to register credit cards/addresses from ONE country per account, and that's currently the UK. eBay accounts don't seem to mind.

@McGrail - I understand what you are saying, but I would hope my feedback rating (99.9%) and length of time on there (over 7 years) might have counted for something :P

Just leave him the negative he deserves!

[Mayhem]

Assuming all goes quiet, I might just go that a minute or so before the 90 days is up ;)

[esquire]

Btw since the exchange I had with the seller regarding reporting them back if the shipping wasn't anywhere near $25 being asked, I've not heard a peep. Nothing. No sign of any report through eBay (yet) either for non-payment. Maybe he realises he can't bully me. Or maybe he just hasn't gotten around to it yet.

Maybe he made a second chance offer to the next highest bidder.

[Mayhem]

Well there was only one other bidder apart from me, so his choices are a bit limited :P

[kevin_psx]

If the seller sends this Global Express Mail it probably will cost the seller close to $25 to ship it.

No

+16.75 GLOBAL EXPRESS ($16.25 + 0.25 envelope + 0.25 Gasoline)

[Insaneclown]

I just got gouged recently...but I won some of my shipping money back. I convinced him. The guy charged me an extra $10 for who knows what. All I care is I got some back...woooooot!

[Mayhem]

Update time...

I've had an email, supposedly from the guy's wife, trying to play nice and trying to settle the dispute as he had alledgedly just been sent abroad on business.

(why do I get "impersonation fever" at this moment?!)

Anyhow the upshot is that "she" is fine with me paying $10 flat for the postage, so I'll sent that through Paypal. I guess we will wait and see if the game turns up!

[jajaja]

Well there was only one other bidder apart from me, so his choices are a bit limited :P

It doesnt help :( You can still leave negative after the 90 days have passed. I was going to do this once, but misscalculated the days and got 1 day too late (91 days). Then I discovered you could still leave feedback. All you have to do is go to site map - leave feedback for a member and write in auction number and seller/buyer id.
I did it once like 100 days after they auction ended. The seller also knew about this so i got a revenge negative :angry:

[Mayhem]

Update: game arrived today! In pretty good condition and works fine. So that's that sorted at least :)

[yok-dfa]

Update: game arrived today! In pretty good condition and works fine. So that's that sorted at least :)

Dying to know: how much were the actual shipping costs :D

[Mayhem]

The sticker on the padded bag? $6.50. Considering I paid $10 then I'm not too fussed.

[kevin_psx]

The sticker on the padded bag? $6.50. Considering I paid $10 then I'm not too fussed.

Add $2.50 for ebay & paypal fees & currency exchange. about $9.00 S&H

[kevin_psx]

Just won a single normal Gamecube game from a seller in the US. Not only is he refusing to let me have the game shipped anywhere apart from to the UK (even though I asked for it to be sent within the US), but he's also charging me $25 (between shipping cost and "insurance") to send it.


Please update us on what happened?

[edit - never mind. (Must learn to read page 2)]