Sega 32X, Worth it??

[MagicMajenta]

I have a few questions about the 32X as I am thinking of getting one. First, I heard from someone working at a store that 32X systems have a reputation of breaking down. Second, from a gamer's perspective is it worth getting? And last if it is not worth getting, would you still get it anyway for $25 for a perfectly working system?

[Fighter17]

I have a few questions about the 32X as I am thinking of getting one. First, I heard from someone working at a store that 32X systems have a reputation of breaking down. Second, from a gamer's perspective is it worth getting? And last if it is not worth getting, would you still get it anyway for $25 for a perfectly working system?

1. I don't know about breaking down.

2. From a gamer's perspective (my view), I won't buy that peice of shit.

3. If the system was perfectly working for $25, I'm still not buying that peice of shit.

[MagicMajenta]

So it's that bad huh?? I've never owned or played one and I also heard from someone else that it is indeed garbage!!

[cyberfluxor]

It's worth getting as an add-on to the Genesis, just like the SegaCD system. There are a few great games on it, and lots of ports. As for the $25 part, it's a bit expensive. I would aim more towards $5-$12 tops. I got mine for $8, which is average in this area.

[wufners]

I've never played one, so I couldn't say if it's worth it from a gaming stand point.

From a collecting stand point, I think it's such an oddball Frankensteiny add-on that it's too hilarious not to want in a collection.

For $25? If I knew for sure it worked and it had that stupid cable you need to plug it into the genesis, then I might bite on in it. $15 would be more to my comfort zone, tho.

[s1lence]

I actually like the 32x, but I'm an oddball. There are a couple games that are worth playing like Chaotix.

[davepesc]

I would say to skip it.

There's a couple of decent games for it, but I boxed mine up and put it on the shelf because it was keeping me away from my power base converter.

Worth playing: Kolibri

That's about it. The Doom port is OK, but I'm sure you could play a better version right now if you wanted to.

[-hellvin-]

I recommend it.

Do not pay more than 15 though. In retrospect, it was a crappy idea and a bad move, but it's still worth checking out. These are my recommended titles:

Blackthorne - Excellent! Truly worth playing. While the DOS version is the best, this still rocks. It's got great platforming combat action a la flashback or out of this world.

Knuckles Chaotix - Good sonic platformer, but it's got it's fair share of faults. The worst one being bound to a second character. Still a cool game to check it, and it looks great!

Spiderman Web of Fire - Interesting and fun spiderman platforming title. Downside? Really rare and a bit spastic control.

Those are my top 3 picks. Granted they're among the most expensive titles on the system, but worth it. Most everything else is either decent or total crap. Some other decent plays are Doom, Mortal Kombat II, Pitfall, Primal Rage. If you can get the system with all hookups for around 15, I'd say go for it. I was able to get almost every single game for the system in about 3 months, except World Series Baseball. Way too elusive, and always too damn expensive!

[Slate]

It's not worth it. I have a complete one, And it breaks down so often i never use it. There is a method to fix it (Temporarily) But the wires come loose again anyways.

Sure, chaotix is a interesting title, But i can play it on my PC with no problems. And it was free to get off of the internet, too.

[-hellvin-]

I'm really surprised to hear it breaks down so much. I've had mine for over a year and play all my genesis games on it and it's never messed up.

[roushimsx]

Worth getting for Shadow Squadron/Stellar Assault alone. That game was everything that Star Wars Arcade 32x wishes it could have been :)

The port of Space Harrier was also pretty damn nice and Virtua Racing Deluxe is the most accurate home conversion of the title yet.

I was pretty disappointed in the port of Mortal Kombat II (it's not as bad as the Saturn version, but it's pretty weak graphically), though :(

Never played Spiderman...guess I'll have to fire it up in Kega Fusion sometime and see what all the hubub is about.

[Slate]

I'm really surprised to hear it breaks down so much. I've had mine for over a year and play all my genesis games on it and it's never messed up.

It's a shame, too, As i tried to like it.

It is a good system if it works right (And you have some good games for it) But if it does not, I'm putting it back in the closet.

[evil_genius]

Not worth it.

[s1lence]

I've never seen a broken one, I've seen them where they dont make a good connection and seem to be broken.

[crazyjackcsa]

If you're a Sega fan, go for it! 25 might be a little high, (I paid 25 Canadian for mine) and once it's siting there with the sega CD it looks incredible! While there aren't a lot of games for it (and few worth playing) Zaxxon is pretty good, so is VF1 (for it's rudimentary look) Probably the best version of Virtua Racer and a good version of MK2. Tempo is fun and so is Shadow Squadron.

[Push Upstairs]

I never had any "breakdown" problems with the two that i once owned.

But i'll be honest in that there really are only a handful of games worthwhile to play on the system. But if you want those games on the system then go for it.

I got rid of mine because (for me) setting the thing up was kind of a pain (it never had a dedicated spot) and the two games that i wanted the system for (Space Harrier & Afterburner 2) are both available on Saturn.

That and i never played it much (see: pain to set up).

[Gamereviewgod]

For the price, why not? I can't see any system not worth checking out when it's sub $15 to get it. There are a couple of gems in there, including a solid port of Virtua Fighter and Racing, the oddball Kolibri, a great game of golf in Fred Couple's, slightly glitchy but fun NBA Jam, and a decently upgraded Toughman Contest.

Oh, and don't forget that aside from two games, we have a complete set of reviews for the console in the review section. Just sayin'.

[PapaStu]

I got mine at launch. Its been hooked up to my Genny ever since. Never had a single problem with it and at the time it was alot cheaper than getting me a PC so I could play Doom.

I really liked it and still do. Some of the games arnt all that good, but I played the hell out of Star Wars, Shadow Squadron, Doom, Virtua Racing Deluxe, Virtua Fighters and a few others.

25 doesnt sound all that bad to me.

[InsaneDavid]

What a bunch of whining over 25 freaking dollars. If it has the RF plates, the cartridge slot retainer tabs, and the DIN patch cord (especially if it has the adapter piece for the model 1 Genesis) then it's well worth it. Hands down it had the best version of Virtua Racing until the recent Sega Ages release of Virtua Racing Flat Out on the PS2. (part of Sega Classics Collection in the US)

I've only owned one 32X and it came complete with a model 1 Genesis and a model 1 Sega CD for $3 total. (bought it from some hick at the flea market) Ended up selling it all in the B&S thread for $60 (also import modded the Genesis - yeah I let it go cheap, didn't need it) and it all worked fine.

[Mr Mort]

I got one just after launch, and I like it. As stated, there are some games worth checking out like:
-Shadow Squadron
-After Burner
-Knuckles' Chaotix
-Virtua Fighter
-Virtua Racing

[jono]

It was worth it for Star wars arcade for me

[fishsandwich]

I think the 32x is a facinating little system, and a few of the games are quite good. Virtua Fighter is awesome. Virtual Racing and Shadow Squadron are super. Star Wars Arcade is good but impossible to finish (I challenge you!) Blackthorne is cool as hell and better than the SNES or GBA version. T-Mek only appeared on the 32x and PC. Brital is a really fast and pretty darn good SF2 clone. Sapce Harrier and Afterburner are arcade-perfect.

Go here for more info...

http://www.geocities.com/the32xmemorial/index2.html



CARTRIDGE GAMES
36 Great Holes Starring Fred Couples
After Burner
BC Racers
Blackthorne
Brutal: Above the Claw
Cosmic Carnage
Doom
Knuckles Chaotix
Kolibri
Metal Head
Mortal Kombat II
Motocross Championship
NBA Jam T.E.
NFL Quarterback Club
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
Primal Rage
R.B.I. Baseball '95
Shadow Squadron
Space Harrier
Spider-Man: Web of Fire
Star Trek: Starfleet Academy
Star Wars Arcade
Tempo
T-Mek
Toughman Contest
Virtua Fighter
Virtua Racing Deluxe
World Series Baseball
WWF Raw
WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game
Zaxxon's Motherbase 2000



CD GAMES
Corpse Killer
Fahrenheit
Night Trap
Slam City with Scottie Pippen
Supreme Warrior



IMPORTS (no U.S. release)
Darxide
FIFA Soccer
Gekijoban Sangokushi IV



CONFIRMED PROTOTYPE
Virtual Hamster
X-Men

[Anthony1]

The 32X absolutely freaking sucks, but..........





It's a definite must own!!!



Yep, quite a contradiction, but very true. The 32X is definitely one of the most ill designed pieces of video game technology ever. But there is something very nice and mystical about it. The vast majority of the games really suck, and most of them appear like they could have easily been done on the Genesis. Despite all of it's claims of 32,000 colors, the 32X to me has like the same color as the regular Genny. I play mine on RGB, and if there really was this big jump in color with the 32X, then I would notice it. The other thing, is that the sound is quite bad and scratchy. I bought the 32X the day of release, and I was super hyped on it. Worst video game investment that I have ever made.


Still, I think that the 32X is definitely a system to try out. Just to at least see what actually REALLY killed Sega. Many will say it started with the Sega CD or the Saturn, but it was really the 32X. There hasn't been a more ridiculous gaming idea since.


And like always, systems like this are a big treat when experienced on a RGB monitor. I highly recommend a commodore 1084S or Sony PVM and a custom Genny 2 RGB cable, along with that shiny 32X. You have to make absolutely sure that you get the 32X connector cable, because without that cable, a 32X is worth maybe $5. If that.

[kedawa]

I don't get the hate for this thing.
There are more good games for 32X (approximately 10) than there were for most of the other crap systems back then (3DO, CD-I, Jaguar, etc.).

I've never had a problem with the sound, and anyone who thinks the color looks the same as Genesis needs to have their vision checked.

The port of MKII may not have been as good as the arcade, but it was better than the SNES, Saturn, and PS2 versions.

I actually got one for xmas when it first came out, and I was pretty happy with it.

During the two years or so that I had it, I played the hell out of Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing Deluxe, Shadow Squadron, Afterburner, MKII, Space Harrier, and even the crappy port of Doom.

That said, don't spend $25 on one now, unless you're sure you'll be able to track down a decent selection of games for cheap.

And make sure you have a good power bar too. LOL

[InsaneDavid]

...and anyone who thinks the color looks the same as Genesis needs to have their vision checked.

Thank you. That's one of the things that the Genesis was always lacking in, the color department, 32X fixed the problem.



And make sure you have a good power bar too. LOL

Ahh, the fatal flaw with expansion technology of the era. That's why I have a JVC X'Eye. ;) The 32X DOES work with it, just blocks the CD lid.

[devilman]

I've owned a few 32X systems in the past and still own a couple but it's so rare that I set them up - the games aren't worth the hassle of hooking up the extra cabling, especially if you're playing a 32X CD game. $25 isn't a bad price though - certainly cheap enough to satisfy your curiosity.

[fishsandwich]

Ahh, the fatal flaw with expansion technology of the era. That's why I have a JVC X'Eye. ;) The 32X DOES work with it, just blocks the CD lid.

Indeed, the X'Eye is a wonderful solution for many all of your Sega gaming needs up to and including the 32x, Sega CD, Genesis, and Master System. That's four systems sprouting from one console (of course, you need the 32x to play 32x games and the SMS adaptor cart thingie to play SMS games.)

A maximum of two power cords. Grab one from Ebay while they are still reasonably cheap! They didn't make many of these suckers. The CD drive is faster, too.

It's true that a fair number of the 32x games could be duplictated on the Genesis (in fact, many were fairly straight ports with better colours, a few graphical tricks, and perhaps a few extra levels) but there are quite a few 32x games that the Genesis could NEVER have done nor could a SNES have duplicated no matter how many FX chips were stuffed into the cart. Compare Virtua Racing on the Genesis (the only Genny game to use the SVP chip) to the 32x version (a launch title) and you'll see. Same for DOOM... the SNES version came out late in the system's life and featured a smoking FX chip while the 32x game was a rushed launch title with a crummy border and half-ass enemies that could have certainly been stellar given more deevlopment time.

Kolibri, Spiderman, Tempo, Motocross, or Knuckles on the Genny or SNES? Sure.

Virtua Fighter, DarXide, Metal Head, Star Wars Arcade, or X-Men on the Genny or SNES? Never.

The 32x was capable of true texture-mapped polygons at good speed. It just didn't live long enough to show its true potential and is a facinating system because of it.

Buy one!!!

:D

[Rabid Peanut-Butter]

They've already been mentioned, but I believe the system is worth it alone for Virtua Racing Deluxe (beats the crap out of the PS2 port/remake) and Kolibri. Star Wars Arcade is alot of fun too, but very dated looking now. I've never had any problem with mine and am glad I bought it.


The 32x was capable of true texture-mapped polygons at good speed. It just didn't live long enough to show its true potential and is a facinating system because of it.

I too believe that the system was cut short and had the potential to be alot more than it was. I think given time we would have seem some amazing titles utilizing both the 32X and Sega CD.

[Vroomfunkel]

Star Wars Arcade is great fun, but - as already stated - utterly impossible to beat.

Darxide is likewise enormous fun - and as slick as you like. But also incredibly difficult. Even level 2 is pretty hard! But then again, the likelihood that you will ever even catch a sniff of that game is so low that you don't really need to worry too much about that ...

I also enjoyed Kolibri and Chaotix ... but I have to say, that's about it for me with the 32X. Stellar Assault was kind of fun, but Darxide beats it for me. The rest just don't cut the mustard, in my book.

And it's so sad that only Digital Pictures ever made and 32X CD games. And they were all diabolical. Seriously - steer well clear! You'll hear the occasional person tell you how wonderful Night Trap is ... I guess if you dig it, then fine. I don't. Again, some people will defend Corpse Killer. It's a pile of tat.

I have never heard anyone even try to recommend Slam City, or Supreme Warrior. There is a very good reason for this!

Vroomfunkel

[Kitsune Sniper]

Virtua Fighter (...) on the Genny or SNES? Never.

Actually, there's a Genesis port of Virtua Fighter. ;) It's got 2D graphics, but you know. And considering the amount of polygons the original VF had, it could've been done with the FX chip - at least with some cut corners. Remember, we almost got FX Fighter, which looked like Virtua Fighter with half the polygons.

I've always been a NES/SNES guy, but I have seen some amazing stuff on the Genesis/32x. Even more impressive if you take into account how difficult it was to fake the effects that the SNES could do natively.

[InsaneDavid]

Virtua Racing Deluxe (beats the crap out of the PS2 port/remake)

What the heck are you talking about? Virtua Racing Flat Out is a perfect arcade recreation except it runs at 60FPS instead of the arcade's original 30FPS. I will agree though that the Saturn version of Virtua Racing blew chunks.

[Sosage]

I kept coming back to this thread to post, but then around the halfway point of writing up my opinions something would come up and I'd have to abandon the post. When I'd come back to the thread, someone would post my exact thoughts. Sucks. So I'm just going to build the first half out of quotes.


What a bunch of whining over 25 freaking dollars.

For the price, why not? I can't see any system not worth checking out when it's sub $15 to get it.

It's true that a fair number of the 32x games could be duplictated on the Genesis (in fact, many were fairly straight ports with better colours, a few graphical tricks, and perhaps a few extra levels) but there are quite a few...

...gems in there, including...

Virtua Fighters

Virtua Racing Deluxe

Knuckles' Chaotix

Star Wars Arcade

Sapce Harrier and Afterburner

The 32X is also the symbol of Sega's mismanagement and a fantastic example of what happens when communications break down from inside a big company. This embarrassing footnote in Sega's history makes it as worthwhile a pick up for collectors as the Virtual Boy (although I'd argue the 32X is easier to get a hold of).

Did the hardware have potential? Yes.

Did Sega screw 32X's early adopters? Yes.

Is it worth 25 bucks now? I dunno. Is 25 bones going to destroy your wallet?

[roushimsx]

What the heck are you talking about? Virtua Racing Flat Out is a perfect arcade recreation except it runs at 60FPS instead of the arcade's original 30FPS. I will agree though that the Saturn version of Virtua Racing blew chunks.

It's far from perfect. The driving model is totally different and it plays more like Daytona USA. Also, the geometry on the cars is different (the wheels are more rounded, smoke effects, etc).

Considering the visual tweaks they did to the game (upgrading models, adding new effects, running it at 60fps smoothly), it's odd that they didn't bother to fix the draw distance problem (the only issue I ever really had with the game). :(

That's not to say it's bad! It's hella fun, it's just that with the totally different driving model, it's pretty much a different game with the same tracks :(

[InsaneDavid]

The driving model is totally different and it plays more like Daytona USA.

Of course, it was redone to suit a controller as opposed to a steering feedback system. It's closer if you use a GT Force wheel.


Considering the visual tweaks they did to the game (upgrading models, adding new effects, running it at 60fps smoothly), it's odd that they didn't bother to fix the draw distance problem (the only issue I ever really had with the game). :(

I was glad they left the draw distance alone. LOL As well as the audio for the most part. "UP TO ONE RASCHER WANTED" LOL

[CRV]

They've already been mentioned, but I believe the system is worth it alone for Virtua Racing Deluxe (beats the crap out of the PS2 port/remake) and Kolibri.

I, too, like the 32X version better. The PS2 version, while good, just feels empty and hollow to me.

[GrandAmChandler]

I recommend it.

Do not pay more than 15 though. In retrospect, it was a crappy idea and a bad move, but it's still worth checking out. These are my recommended titles:

Blackthorne - Excellent! Truly worth playing. While the DOS version is the best, this still rocks. It's got great platforming combat action a la flashback or out of this world.

Knuckles Chaotix - Good sonic platformer, but it's got it's fair share of faults. The worst one being bound to a second character. Still a cool game to check it, and it looks great!

Spiderman Web of Fire - Interesting and fun spiderman platforming title. Downside? Really rare and a bit spastic control.

Those are my top 3 picks. Granted they're among the most expensive titles on the system, but worth it. Most everything else is either decent or total crap. Some other decent plays are Doom, Mortal Kombat II, Pitfall, Primal Rage. If you can get the system with all hookups for around 15, I'd say go for it. I was able to get almost every single game for the system in about 3 months, except World Series Baseball. Way too elusive, and always too damn expensive!

I agree totally with this post. In addition, I'd like to say that I find Star Wars: Arcade to be the most fun.

As from a collecting standpoint, I am one of the collectors who has a complete 32X Collection. This is fairly easy to do, but those last couple games may drive you mad to find. Spiderman is the obvious, World Series is next, followed by Pitfall, T-Mek, and Blackthorne.

It's a neat gem in the video game universe. If you are just looking to play the thing, don't pay too much, and make sure you get loose carts of the games listed above.

[fishsandwich]

Virtua Fighter (...) on the Genny or SNES? Never.

Actually, there's a Genesis port of Virtua Fighter. ;) It's got 2D graphics, but you know. And considering the amount of polygons the original VF had, it could've been done with the FX chip - at least with some cut corners. Remember, we almost got FX Fighter, which looked like Virtua Fighter with half the polygons.

Yeah, I used to get high on Sunday afternoons too... those were the days! ;)

Seriously, though, there's no way you can compare the Genesis "port" of Virtua Fighter 2 (it's VF2, not the original VF) to the 32x game. Both games might have many of the same characters and basic moves moves but one is straight old-school 2-D and one is true 3-D. You can't compare the two.

As far as the FX Fighter for the SNES running with the FX chip... did you ever see that game in motion? It was a graphical nightmare (that looked NOTHING like VF1) running at a very low frame rate (which is part of the reason why GTE never finished it for the SNES, instead switching it to the PC format and releasing it as a PC game, a platform with totally different specs, architecture, and abilities.) Don't get me wrong... I would have LOVED to have played SNES FX Fighter along with Comanche (another SNES FX game that was cancelled because it looked like ass) but the SNES just wasn't up to the task of doing a 3-D fighter.

Yes, the SNES with a seriously blazing FX2 chip could have done Virtua Fighter 1 with "some cut corners" as long as one understands that those cut corners would have completely changed the look and feel of Virtua Fighter. And "half the polygons" is wildly optimistic thinking... It would be more akin to stick figures with no detail whatsoever running at 10fps. I mean, I think the 32x could have done a port of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City with some cut corners, but who would want to play a game that looked that bad and had so much cut out of it to fit the limitations of the hardware?

Again, the 32x was a promising (if compromised) system that had real potential and some real power under the hood... it just didn't live long enough or have enough attention from Triple-Adevelopers to see that power harnassed and utilized.

[Ed Oscuro]

Is it worth 25 bucks now? I dunno. Is 25 bones going to destroy your wallet?
Personally, there are so many better things I could be doing with that $25, better games to be buying...

I would be far happier with a Genesis/MD originally able to do hardware scaling (even limited!) and if the 32x had never seen the light of day. While this would've meant no 3D games, it's hard not to suspect Sega couldn't have put the development time into something more useful, and saved money to boot.

[fishsandwich]

Is it worth 25 bucks now? I dunno. Is 25 bones going to destroy your wallet?
Personally, there are so many better things I could be doing with that $25, better games to be buying...

I would be far happier with a Genesis/MD originally able to do hardware scaling (even limited!) and if the 32x had never seen the light of day. While this would've meant no 3D games, it's hard not to suspect Sega couldn't have put the development time into something more useful, and saved money to boot.

I can think of worse ways to spend $25... I just spent $5 at Starbucks for a coffee. Talk about a waste of money.

I agree that the 32x shouldn't have seen the light of day. It was a bad idea and Sega could have spent the money supporting the Sega CD (another questionable idea) and especially the upcoming Saturn.

However, it did see the light of day and as such is an interesting part of Sega's heritage. $25 may be a bit much for just a loose 32x with no games, though. An auction for a nice 32x with six 32x games (three complete, two with instructions) and five Genny games recently ended for $26 plus shipping. Try for somethihg like that!

:D

[PC-Famicom64]

Yes,Please do buy a 32X,I got mine for 28 Bucks with Shipment But With it on It plays in Black & White (Mosty Konami Games,Pac Man 2 & Sonic 3D Blast) I may buy a Genesis 1 to 32X Cable but that may never come to do,If you ask I was useing a Genesis 2 with The 32X,After What I bin seeing in Specks with The Genesis with The Sega CD & 32X with The Power of The Z80 can do stuff that The Super NES needs another chip in The Cart to do The Same thing (Like in Sonic 2 & 3,All the bost up stuff was done by The Z80 chip,when The Super NES needs another chip in The cart like The SA-1 chip,The Super-FX1/Super-FX2 chip and The DPS1 chip) .

P.S:Sorry this post is long for The topic.

[swlovinist]

I am another person with a complete boxed collection. I also wrote a funny article about the system in the DP advance book(Sega 32X lore). As a whole the system was a complete failure, and had many games on it that well, sucked. With that being said, the system is a steal at $25 and would be worth it for Virtua Fighter, Star Wars, and Knuckles. I would definately get it.

[googlefest1]

for gaming - id say get it

games are fun -- personly id get it for the great afterburner and space harrier port it has (my favorite version)

I dont think 25$ is thatmuch of a big deal -- i got a new one at that price - but i still think its ok for used one - what the F is it? 5 sandwiches? you can go with out 5 lunches can't you :) think of the afterburner and space harrier blis

[PC-Famicom64]

1.Yes,Please do buy a 32X,I got mine for 28 Bucks with Shipment But With it on It plays in Black & White (Mosty Konami Games,Pac Man 2 & Sonic 3D Blast) I may buy a Genesis 1 to 32X Cable but that may never come to do,If you ask I was useing a Genesis 2 with The 32X.

2.After What I bin seeing in Specks with The Genesis with The Sega CD & 32X with The Power of The Z80 can do stuff that The Super NES needs another chip in The Cart to do The Same thing (Like in Sonic 2 & 3,All the bost up stuff was done by The Z80 chip,when The Super NES needs another chip in The cart like The SA-1 chip,The Super-FX1/Super-FX2 chip and The DPS1 chip) .

P.S:Sorry this post is long for The topic.Umm.. ,Will someone post something about this topic?

Post 2 Is The/One of The reason why we don't nead The Saturn as much as Sega whats us to have it.

[john_soper]

Well, I just finished 32x Night Trap the other week and I enjoyed it, cheesy fun.
"Looks like a healthy bunch"

As for broken 32x's, a lot of them can be fixed by opening them up and pushing the white ribbon cables in and out a few times at both ends. I brought three back to life this way.

[fishsandwich]

1.Yes,Please do buy a 32X,I got mine for 28 Bucks with Shipment But With it on It plays in Black & White (Mosty Konami Games,Pac Man 2 & Sonic 3D Blast) I may buy a Genesis 1 to 32X Cable but that may never come to do,If you ask I was useing a Genesis 2 with The 32X.

2.After What I bin seeing in Specks with The Genesis with The Sega CD & 32X with The Power of The Z80 can do stuff that The Super NES needs another chip in The Cart to do The Same thing (Like in Sonic 2 & 3,All the bost up stuff was done by The Z80 chip,when The Super NES needs another chip in The cart like The SA-1 chip,The Super-FX1/Super-FX2 chip and The DPS1 chip) .

P.S:Sorry this post is long for The topic.

Umm.. ,Will someone post something about this topic?

Post 2 Is The/One of The reason why we don't nead The Saturn as much as Sega whats us to have it.

What?
:?

[PC-Famicom64]

After What I bin seeing in Specs with The Genesis with The Sega CD & 32X with The Power of The Z80 can do stuff that The Super NES needs another chip in The Cart to do The Same thing (Like in Sonic 2 & 3,All the bost up stuff was done by The Z80 chip,when The Super NES needs another chip in The cart like The SA-1 chip,The Super-FX1/Super-FX2 chip and The DPS1 chip) .

P.S:Sorry this post is long for The topic.

Umm.. ,Will someone post something about this topic?

This is The/One of The reason why we don't nead The Saturn as much as Sega whats us to have it.

What?
:?Made more easyer to read this post.

[fishsandwich]

After What I bin seeing in Specs with The Genesis with The Sega CD & 32X with The Power of The Z80 can do stuff that The Super NES needs another chip in The Cart to do The Same thing (Like in Sonic 2 & 3,All the bost up stuff was done by The Z80 chip,when The Super NES needs another chip in The cart like The SA-1 chip,The Super-FX1/Super-FX2 chip and The DPS1 chip) .

P.S:Sorry this post is long for The topic.

Umm.. ,Will someone post something about this topic?

This is The/One of The reason why we don't nead The Saturn as much as Sega whats us to have it.

What?
:?Made more easyer to read this post.

I'm sorry. I still don't understand. What are you asking?

Wasn't the Z80 the (old) 8-bit CPU from the Master System that Sega also included in the Genesis as the I/O chip (or was it the sound chip? Yeah, I think it was the sound processor) and to serve as the main processor for the Master System convertor? I don't think it would have had much to do with the 32x/Genny setup. I think that many (if not all) of the processors that were included in the FX-chipped games for the SNES were all more powerful (if not FAR more powerful) than the old Z80 chip in the Genesis. The debate still rages, but the SNES had many advantages over the Genny with the exceptions of overall processor speed and ease of programming. The 32x/Genesis (with its two 32-bit CPUs and the 16-bit processor in the Genny) was obviously quite a lot more powerful than the SNES (the FX chip certainly helped some SNES games do more than the basic hardware could do on its own but they didn't bring the SNES anywhere close to the 32x in terms of polygon-pushing power) but I don't know that the Z80 from the Genesis would have really been utilized that much. Add in the Sega CD and you've got ANOTHER (and faster) 16-bit CPU plus a custom chip for scaling and rotation.

In short, I don't believe the Z80 was used in Genesis games other than for sound and/or I/O duties. Maybe I'm getting the I/O part mixed in with the original PSone processor that was included in the PS2 for I/O duties and to serve as the main CPU when playing PSone games. Maybe the Z80 in the Genesis helped out with Sonic & Knuckles and the lock-on technology. Hell if I know. I am now totally confused.

[PC-Famicom64]

After What I bin seeing in Specs with The Genesis with The Sega CD & 32X with The Power of The Z80 can do stuff that The Super NES needs another chip in The Cart to do The Same thing (Like in Sonic 2 & 3,All the bost up stuff was done by The Z80 chip,when The Super NES needs another chip in The cart like The SA-1 chip,The Super-FX1/Super-FX2 chip and The DPS1 chip) .

P.S:Sorry this post is long for The topic.

Umm.. ,Will someone post something about this topic?

This is The/One of The reason why we don't nead The Saturn as much as Sega whats us to have it.

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:?Made more easyer to read this post.

I'm sorry. I still don't understand. What are you asking?

Wasn't the Z80 the (old) 8-bit CPU from the Master System that Sega also included in the Genesis as the I/O chip (or was it the sound chip? Yeah, I think it was the sound processor) and to serve as the main processor for the Master System convertor? I don't think it would have had much to do with the 32x/Genny setup. I think that many (if not all) of the processors that were included in the FX-chipped games for the SNES were all more powerful (if not FAR more powerful) than the old Z80 chip in the Genesis. The debate still rages, but the SNES had many advantages over the Genny with the exceptions of overall processor speed and ease of programming. The 32x/Genesis (with its two 32-bit CPUs and the 16-bit processor in the Genny) was obviously quite a lot more powerful than the SNES (the FX chip certainly helped some SNES games do more than the basic hardware could do on its own but they didn't bring the SNES anywhere close to the 32x in terms of polygon-pushing power) but I don't know that the Z80 from the Genesis would have really been utilized that much. Add in the Sega CD and you've got ANOTHER (and faster) 16-bit CPU plus a custom chip for scaling and rotation.

In short, I don't believe the Z80 was used in Genesis games other than for sound and/or I/O duties. Maybe I'm getting the I/O part mixed in with the original PSone processor that was included in the PS2 for I/O duties and to serve as the main CPU when playing PSone games. Maybe the Z80 in the Genesis helped out with Sonic & Knuckles and the lock-on technology. Hell if I know. I am now totally confused.http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/Consolehistory.htm

Hear,I hope this helps,Clck on "Sega Genesis vs Super NES"

Note:This Web site is a bit wrong but most of it is right.

;)

[Zadoc]

I have a few questions about the 32X as I am thinking of getting one. First, I heard from someone working at a store that 32X systems have a reputation of breaking down. Second, from a gamer's perspective is it worth getting? And last if it is not worth getting, would you still get it anyway for $25 for a perfectly working system?

1. Does it break down? Well, I still have my launch 32X and it runs perfectly.

2. Is it worth getting? Completely! I love my 32X. Games that are worth getting:

After Burner II - Arcade Perfect

Virtua Fighter 32X - Better than the Saturn version

Star Wars Arcade - The only system that you'll find this title on, great graphics, great fun, especially with a friend.

Space Harrier - Arcade Perfect

Blackthorne - Better than the SNES version

Mortal Kombat II - Better than the Genesis or SNES version

Knuckles Chaotix - The only released version of "Sonic 4." Amazing graphics.

Metal Head - A rather fun Mech game

Kolibri - One of the most beautiful side scrolling shooters ever concieved. It's by the same team as Ecco the Dolphin, so you know it's good.

List of All 32X games (http://www.consolecity.com/games.php?system_id=14&genre_id=&region_array=a%253A0%253A%257B%257D&start=0)

The console also has a pretty good version of Doom and T-Mek. The only console conversion of T-Mek, I believe.

$25 for a COMPLETE 32X is good.

[Zadoc]

I have a few questions about the 32X as I am thinking of getting one. First, I heard from someone working at a store that 32X systems have a reputation of breaking down. Second, from a gamer's perspective is it worth getting? And last if it is not worth getting, would you still get it anyway for $25 for a perfectly working system?

1. Does it break down? Well, I still have my launch 32X and it runs perfectly.

2. Is it worth getting? Completely! I love my 32X. Games that are worth getting:

After Burner II - Arcade Perfect

Virtua Fighter 32X - Better than the Saturn version

Star Wars Arcade - The only system that you'll find this title on, great graphics, great fun, especially with a friend.

Space Harrier - Arcade Perfect

Blackthorne - Better than the SNES version

Mortal Kombat II - Better than the Genesis or SNES version

Knuckles Chaotix - The only released version of "Sonic 4." Amazing graphics.

Metal Head - A rather fun Mech game

Kolibri - One of the most beautiful side scrolling shooters ever concieved. It's by the same team as Ecco the Dolphin, so you know it's good.

List of All 32X games (http://www.consolecity.com/games.php?system_id=14&genre_id=&region_array=a%253A0%253A%257B%257D&start=0)

The console also has a pretty good version of Doom and T-Mek. The only console conversion of T-Mek, I believe.

$25 for a COMPLETE 32X is good.

[Zadoc]

I have a few questions about the 32X as I am thinking of getting one. First, I heard from someone working at a store that 32X systems have a reputation of breaking down. Second, from a gamer's perspective is it worth getting? And last if it is not worth getting, would you still get it anyway for $25 for a perfectly working system?

1. Does it break down? Well, I still have my launch 32X and it runs perfectly.

2. Is it worth getting? Completely! I love my 32X. Games that are worth getting:

After Burner II - Arcade Perfect

Virtua Fighter 32X - Better than the Saturn version

Star Wars Arcade - The only system that you'll find this title on, great graphics, great fun, especially with a friend.

Space Harrier - Arcade Perfect

Blackthorne - Better than the SNES version

Mortal Kombat II - Better than the Genesis or SNES version

Knuckles Chaotix - The only released version of "Sonic 4." Amazing graphics.

Metal Head - A rather fun Mech game

Kolibri - One of the most beautiful side scrolling shooters ever concieved. It's by the same team as Ecco the Dolphin, so you know it's good.

List of All 32X games (http://www.consolecity.com/games.php?system_id=14&genre_id=&region_array=a%253A0%253A%257B%257D&start=0)

The console also has a pretty good version of Doom and T-Mek. The only console conversion of T-Mek, I believe.

$25 for a COMPLETE 32X is good.

[Zadoc]

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