Final Fantasy VII Value

[Porksta]

Perhaps $10 for a complete copy of FF VII is a little insulting. I have offered $15 to some people, and they still complain.

[Cyan]

Hmm.. this game is dirt common. It was a great game, yes, but I see it *everywhere* Quite frankly, I'd never pay $10 for a copy of FFVII ;) It even made it to Greatest Hits!

But, then again, sealed copies in the Greatest Hits packaging with a strategy guide are going for $70 USD 'buy it now' on eBay, so who knows?

-RS.

[PapaStu]

Sealed RPG's have a mind of their own on ebay. Sealed non-GH versions can command 200+ bucks. I don't know why, but they do.

The game itself is super common and 10 is a fair assesment in my book. Give me a genuine reason to push it up and i'll take it into consideration.

[Jimmy]

Sealed RPG's have a mind of their own on ebay. Sealed non-GH versions can command 200+ bucks. I don't know why, but they do.

It's obvious why, isn't it? Because when a lot of people bought games (especially when FFVII came out), they wouldn't take good care of the boxes. Those little jeweled hard-plastic cases crack easilly. And that game got onto the Greatest Hits list fast, so they would have stopped making the normal ones. A lot of people who would have bought the normal one would have probably just put it in a CD case and discard the case, unless they were planning on selling it on eBay someday.

[layzee]

I'm no marketer, but I would also think that the release of the movie "Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children" has helped to increase the value of the game.

For e.g. someone who has never played the game might be introduced to the game through the movie.

Another e.g. would be someone who has already played the game watches the movie and thinks to themselves "Hmm I feel like playing the game again... shame I sold it though..."

Both cases lead to increased demand, thereby the perceived value of the game would be greater.

Then again, there are bucketloads of the game floating around waiting to be bought. I guess I would conclude that the reason why people pay so much for it, is because they think it's worth that much.

Funny little thing this FF7 isn't it?

[Aussie2B]

Those little jeweled hard-plastic cases crack easilly.

You know, you can swap out different parts of the cases easily. After the long boxes were gone, they weren't using any special cases. You could easily get some generic CD cases that would be identical or near identical. Or you could simply buy some other cheap double-disc PlayStation game and swap the inserts.

Of course, if they're still sealed, you're stuck with whatever condition the original case is in, but in the case of FF7, I'm sure people will pay loads of dough for a sealed original version even if it does have a crack or two.

[metalichris]

Damn this topic. I watched Advent Children the other day, and now this is making me want to start a file on FFVII.

[JWZZR]

my Circuitcity has a bunch of final fanntasy 7 GH im going to by them all look at this

http://cgi.ebay.com/FACTORY-SEALED-Final-Fantasy-VII-7-Playstation-PS1_W0QQitemZ104751372139QQihZ020QQcategoryZ62053Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

[SolidZach]

wasent it just last year when you could buy a new copy of ffVII(GH)for 15 bucks at gamestop.

[graboid9]

i sold an open non-GH copy i found $2 at a pawn shop for $45 on the bay a few months ago

[50TBRD]

EB Games (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=933185)
eStarland (http://www.estarland.com/Playstation.cat..product.6462.html)
Here are two reasons to change it. These are real world prices, not just Ebay. IF these places had one, then they would cost around 30 bucks. Gamestop and EB are owned by the same company and their prices are similar.

[PapaStu]

EB Games (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=933185)
eStarland (http://www.estarland.com/Playstation.cat..product.6462.html)
Here are two reasons to change it. These are real world prices, not just Ebay. IF these places had one, then they would cost around 30 bucks. Gamestop and EB are owned by the same company and their prices are similar.

Thats no reason to change it. You take that game into an EB (not that you even can anymore since they've stoped taking in used PS/N64 stuff) and they'll still give you the same 3 bucks for it. Their prices are higher because they try to reflect ebay prices , and because people are just clinging after copies on ebay doesn't mean that every copy won't sell for less than 30 bucks.

The price shot up because of Advent Childrens release. There are a shitton of copies out there and the game was re-released as a GH title that saw numerous printings.

[50TBRD]

Some people don't care if its GH or not. They just want the game.

And you cannot go by trade-in value on anything. If you take any early 90s car in to get a trade-in, they'll only give you a grand but sell it privately and you can get 3-5 depending on the shape and model. They give you 3 bucks for it so they can make a ton of profit and recoup loses for games which do not work or are stole. Thats the way that the retail business works.

Desires may be running high for the original game due to FF7AC but the prices will only get higher as time goes on, especially due to the fact that the Playstations are backwards compatible and it can always be played on the newest Playstation. That keeps it current.

FF7 is an RPG and RPGs weather time very well at least in the area of price. To see what will happen to FF7 in 5 years you can look at the RPGs from the previous generation. FF3 commands some good money today and Earthbound, Chronotrigger, Harvest Moon all command very high prices.

And the fact that EB/Gamestop no longer take these games means that the places to get them dwindle down. Pretty soon that means that Ebay/Amazon/Online Stores will have to be the determining factor when it comes to prices.

[digitalpress]

I think the dollar value should be higher but the rarity left right where it is. I get this game traded in at my store as often as any other PS1 game but it sells quickly at $29.99.

We don't use "store prices" in the guide, however. The guide represents fair value among collectors and we ALL know that we can find the game for less than $29.99 if we just look (usually right here on the forums, for example). So jetting the price up to $30 breaks all of our rules. However, I think it would be fair to raise it to $15 or even $20. If someone were selling it at a collector meeting (hint hint, NAVA) for that price I'd say fair deal.

[50TBRD]

While all values point to 30. I was thinking that 20 was a better price guide than the 10 listed.

[Griking]

And you cannot go by trade-in value on anything.

Agreed. What was Funcoland offering as trade-in value for Stadium Events. What was Gamestop just recently offering for a used copy of Suikoden II?

Personally I think the value should be about $30. That seems to be the average price of what most people seem to be willing to pay for it which in my opinion defines what value is. Yeah, I know that you can find it cheaper at a tag sale if you're patient and look for a while but the same can be said about any game.

[MarioMania]

What's the cheapest I could get for Final Fantasy Anthology & Final Fantasy Chronicles..I'm going to get it for my friend

[PapaStu]

And you cannot go by trade-in value on anything.

I did that as an example since you linked two online sites as your reasoning as to why its price should be 30. We don't simply set prices based on what A online store or what ebay alone dictates. We factor in a bunch more than what one place determines as a going price for a game.

Just because EB/GS is pulling out of the PS/N64/DC stuff doesn't mean that we're only going to be able to get these games online. Last I looked the NES/Genny/SMS/GG/2600/5600/7800/AES/VB ect,ect have all been out of those stores for a long while and theres still plenty of places to go and pick up these games.


@ Griking we've had board members that have gotten Stadium Events thru GameCrazies/GameStops for 9 bucks. What did they offer the person that sold it? Probably 50 cents or a buck. And Gamestop I'm sure offers nothing now (but did offer about 40 for Suikoden II) and the price for Suikoden II is just really high due to the same kind of demand that kept the original DragonBall GT Final Bout running 160+ on ebay for years. I got my original release of DBZ just this last year for like 30, with no competition because the market and percieved demand had fallen out and this game had a print run of about 10k which is leaps and bounds lower than Suikoden II. Wait for the PSP re-release and I bet the PS price drops some on Suikoden II.


I've raised the price of FF VII to $20 all be it begrudingly simply because of its sheer comminality. A game that is as common as FF VII, really doesn't have a solid value of 30 bucks IMO. Once the buzz has died back down the price should also cool back down some as well. The new value will show when I send in the next update which should be sometime in the next week or so.

[PapaStu]

What's the cheapest I could get for Final Fantasy Anthology & Final Fantasy Chronicles..I'm going to get it for my friend

If you look about you can still find GH copies selling for 15-20 a pop.

[Dangerboy]

(insert HUGE HUGE sigh)

Stu nailed the guide aspect, I'll nail the "real world" aspect.

Okay, first things first, an inconvenient truth:


EB Games
Here are two reasons to change it. These are real world prices, not just Ebay. IF these places had one, then they would cost around 30 bucks. Gamestop and EB are owned by the same company and their prices are similar.

I can't speak for eStarland, but EB Games/ Game Stop uses eBay as a reference in their pricing, including other factors. Back when you could pick up Dragonball GT Final Bout for $9.99, someone at home office's buying/selling department watched the game climb to $100, to $200, to $400, and so on; so they raised the price of the game to $100+ used. I know, I almost bought one.

Even funnier; when EB was still by itself, they had a company wide re-call of all DBGT games, and then sold them off on ebay for top dollar. Sad but true, sad but fucking true.

This is also true for GC Resident Evil 2 / 3 , Cubivore (went from something like $14.99 to 39.99), Marvel Vs Capcom (now selling used at EB/GS for $59.99), and others because that's what SOMEONE is willing to pay.

Rarity and price are too seperate beasts. At one point FF7 was $12.99 (I still have the used GH variant with the tag on it). That was before goddamn everyone and his brother was on a holier-than-thou PSX RPG quest; before everyone and their fanboy-brother had to relive their memories while watching Advent Children. Before PS2 RPGs started becoming the same freaking game every release.

The game isn't rare. It's not a holy grail, it's not even a freaking obscure game. It's not even a *good* version of the game (alas, poor Barrett).

It's just that everyone wants the damn thing, and that's demand, not rarity.

Demand means a seller, any seller now has an open playing field because they can dictate price, because if they wait long enough, someone will pay their price (cue why newer used games at corporate stores are only $5 less than new on the average).

If people just sat the fuck down and let a memory fade for a while, the nostalgia factor wears off, the game goes back down to a reasonable price ($15ish) because no one can get rid of it now.

Oddly enough, I've now counted 4 people (yes, FOUR) who were on the aforementioned PSX RPG quest and are now selling off their findings. If there would just be an allowance for the game to re-fill the market, and meet the demand, the price would deflate.

And for sealed copies of games on ebay? Don't even ask, some people just don't have a grasp on (financial) reality.