When it rains, it pours (shipping situation)

[Steven]

Today two packages arrived.

I paid 11.50 S&H for one, 10.00 for the other.

11.50 was shipped for 3.27.

10 for 2.67.

Thats an 8.23 difference and 7.33 difference.

Now, I totally understand HANDLING goes with it, and I know the S&H terms were already disclosed and agreed upon, but I can't help but feel a bit 'rotten' about it all.

So I emailed both sellers asking if I could have a $5 refund.

One complied, and one explained to me the peanuts, the driving, etc. etc. 1 out of 2 isn't bad though.

I'm not THAT cheap. If the shipping is 4, even 5 dollars off, I won't be chirping. But when you're getting in that $7 $8 dollar range, I'm sorry but that's a ripoff... I expect my items to go out flat rate priority ($8.10) instead of cheap bubble mailer.

Similar experiences? Have you ever asked for partial shipping refund? How successful have you been in that regard, say % wise? I've asked for maybe 3 or 4 partial shipping refunds in my eBay career. Like I said, I'm not THAT cheap and only ask for it when there's a ridiculous $7+ discrepancy.

Any other thoughts and comments are fully welcomed.

[MichaeltheGreat]

I always used to laugh at those "only on tv" ads for the $20 products with the huge shipping and handling that were money back guarunteed except for the shipping and handling!

The shipping and insurance crap is brought up every other day. Yes, it's very silly to charge so much. 90% of the time, you know what you're expected to pay beforehand for both. It's not like you get a bill in the mail and are like "son of a salimander! They want twelve smackaroonies to ship this next door?". You either expect it as par for the course, or you get really grumpy and complain and one time in 10 get a couple of dollars back. It is wrong and unethical. But is it worth the trouble to complain?

[kevin_psx]

I always used to laugh at those "only on tv" ads for the $20 products with the huge shipping and handling that were money back guarunteed except for the shipping and handling!

Have one of those now. It's 3 TV dinner trays. Buy 2 get 1 free. Great deal! But you still have to pay $15*3 = $45 total when bundled as 1 package they probably cost only $20.

Solution-- Don't buy.

[kevin_psx]

I paid 11.50 S&H for one, 10.00 for the other. Then why did ya bid??????



Hasn't this topic been brought up before :? No never so let me list my fees

$1.50 HANDLING
+ $4.90 PRIORITY(4.05 Post + 0.25 Gas + 0.60 DC)
=====
$6.40

+ $4.35 CANA...... #$%& %10 . . . . . [connection lost]

[Griking]

Any other thoughts and comments are fully welcomed.

If you knew up front what the seller's shipping & handling fee was then you really have no right to complain afterwards. The only exception is if he ships it via a different method than what he advertised (media instead of priority).

Some people use shipping and handling fees to make a extra dollars profit. Some unfortunately try to make more than a few bucks. At this point though this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Read the seller's shipping fees before bidding, if you agree to them beforehand don't complain about them afterwards. If you don't agree then don't bid.

Hasn't this topic been brought up before :?

[evil_genius]

Honestly, I don't even check the postage when it arrives. I agree to pay that price plus the shipping cost for the item.

[mindlesspunk77]

when i ship i charge 4.10 shipping priority and 50 cents each aditional. makes it easy for me cause i dont have to answer 900 shipping questions on ebay. everything adds itself up and if they buy ten games or so i usually make 2 or 3 dollars so makes my time packing worth it.

[fishsandwich]

I make between .25 and $1.50 profit on shipping. Doesn't even begin to cover Ebay and PayPal costs.

I don't mind paying a bit more when I buy things... I'm not a serious seller, and I understand that some people try to offset the various fees they incur with shipping.

But sometimes it frickin ridiculous.

Case in point... The guy who advertised first-class shipping for $5 and required $1.50 insurance. The item arrived media mail ($1.50) with no insurance at at. I e-mailed the guy and he said he was "self insured." No reply about the 1st class shipping. He made $5 profit off me. Not a seemingly big deal, but he's a big seller and does that to ALL his buyers. Those $5 add up to a substantial profit that offsets any fees he's incurring.

If I'm WAY overcharged on shipping I e-mail and ask for a refund of some of the money. I don't care if the shipping cost was plastered all over the auction... PayPal has rules against excessive shipping and $10 shipping charged versus $2 actual shipping is damned robbery and unethical. The seller is double-damned if I'm buying a boxed N64 game and he sends my game in a shitty bubble envelope. If you're going to rape me on shipping you'd better be damned sure my game arrived in good condition and not flattended because you chose the cheapest possible packaging and shipping.

I've left neutrals and negs before when I was seriously screwed and the seller was an ass about it. Didn't get me any money back, but I felt better.

That's my 2 cents, worth one penny as usual.

[kevin_psx]

PayPal has rules against excessive shipping .

Where?

[Steven]

^ agree with you Fish. I don't care if S&H is plastered all over an auction, if the seller makes like an $8 profit, that's just morally wrong.

BTW I forgot to mention one of the sellers did say he would send it flat rate priority, but didn't.

But, like I said, this isn't meant to be taken as me blowing my top. I was merely just somewhat irked that ON THE SAME DAY, I was gouged for $15 total in shipping costs that I really shouldn't have morally paid for. They're lucky the games arrived ok too. They just stuck it in some crappy bubble mailer with NO extra bubble wrap over the games. (at least do that)

Anywho, that's all I have to say about this. I left them positive feedback, because the items arrived and there was good communication on both sides. I normally wouldn't bring this whole situation up, but to have it happened twice on the same day....

[fishsandwich]

PayPal has rules against excessive shipping .

Where?

I looked it up. It's more "guidelines" than "rules" but there are consequences if you screw people. The key word is the always nebulous "REASONABLE." The wording is pretty vague and I doubt the consequences are actually enforced to any regree, but here's what we have...


eBay encourages sellers to clearly describe the item and terms of shipping and delivery in their listings to avoid possible confusion.

A shipping and handling fee can cover the seller's reasonable costs for mailing, packaging and handling the item.

Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:

Listing cancellation

Limits on account privileges

Account suspension

Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings

Loss of PowerSeller status



Yes, yes, yes, I know... I shouldn't bid if I don't like the shipping charges. I do anyway. And if someone charges me $8 and then sends it in a bubble envelope for $1.10 then he's going to get a big fat negative with something like "Item arrived as promised but I was RAPED on shipping. THIEF."

Sue me.

[kevin_psx]

No. Neg you. If you bid, then you agree to pay the S&H listed, even if you think it's too high.

[Kitsune Sniper]

No. Neg you. If you bid, then you agree to pay the S&H listed, even if you think it's too high.

This from a guy who bitched and moaned about how he got screwed over from the shipping on a bunch of PSX auctions?

I tend to give refunds to my customers if shipping is calculated. I usually end up refunding part of the money when I have the chance; this is why I charge $5-$7 to ship Priority Mail depending on the item(s). If it's cheaper to send something Flat Rate, I give the guy a refund for the extra money he gave me. Simple.

[fishsandwich]

No. Neg you. If you bid, then you agree to pay the S&H listed, even if you think it's too high.

Why, yes. NEG ME. I thought that went without saying. If I leave someone a negative and he hasn't left feedback for me yet then I expect a retalitory negative. And where exactly did you get the idea that I didn't pay the required shipping and handling on anything? I always do. There's nothing that says I can't leave a negative feedback for blatant profiteering once the deal is done.

Are we finished?

[kevin_psx]

No. Neg you. If you bid, then you agree to pay the S&H listed, even if you think it's too high. This from a guy who bitched and moaned about how he got screwed over from the shipping on a bunch of PSX auctions?

Yeah but I was WRONG. Auction stated "will not combine shipping". Ebay said "seller has done nothing wrong". SO -----> I gave the Seller 20 positives. As he deserved.

To neg the seller for clearly stated S&H would be wrong.


And where exactly did you get the idea that I didn't pay the required shipping and handling on anything? I always do.
Yes but then you negged the seller. That's (roughly) equivalent to saying, "I agree to pay $20,000 for this car" signing the contract & then going to Small Claims Court and saying you were scammed. NO. You agreed to the price. You were not scammed. You went into the deal w/ your eyes wide open & fully knowledgeable of the cost. If you bid you agree to pay whatever the shipping/handling is &&& you agree to give a positive.

EDIT - welcome to my blocked bidder list Do not want customers as troublesome as you

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[fishsandwich]

NO. You agreed to the price. You were not scammed. You went into the deal w/ your eyes wide open & fully knowledgeable of the cost. If you bid you agree to pay whatever the s&H AND you agree to give a positive.

Nah. I shall continue to leave negatives for sellers who blatantly overcharge me. Without fail.

And where the hell did you get the idea that once I have won an auction I am automatically obligated to leave positive feedback?!! That's crazy talk, Kevin.

It looks like we'll have to agree to disagree then?

I'M finished now.

[fishsandwich]

Damn. Here I am posting again.

I didn't mean to get you riled up... do you overcharge your buyers? How much?

I have never bid on any of your auctions to my knowledge. I certainly would if the item was one that I wanted and the shipping was reasonable.

How did you block me on your bidder list? I use a totally different name on Ebay. Do we know each other?

I'm confused.

:?

Anyway, I'm sorry if I made you angry, dude. That was not my intention. Shipping is a sore spot for me.

[kevin_psx]

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I have received "you charge too much" negs for $4.00 media S&H. I am also sore about that. It was not deserved.


I'M finished now.

[fishsandwich]

I'M finished now.


EDIT - welcome to my blocked bidder list Do not want customers as troublesome as you


Fair enough. PM me sometime and tell me how you block a bidder when you don't know their ebay ID. That's a neat trick.

ps. I don't even know your ebay seller ID. If I were to inadvertently bid and win on one of your auctions unknowingly I promise that I would leave you positive feedback if the condition of the item was as stated in the auction and you didn't totally screw me on shipping.

That's assuming, of course, that I can get past you blocking me without knowing my Ebay ID.

[Griking]

Yes, yes, yes, I know... I shouldn't bid if I don't like the shipping charges. I do anyway.

And that's why you're 100% wrong. Honestly I stopped reading the rest of your response after this part because nothing else that you could say would make a difference any more.

[jonjandran]

Gas $2.20 a gallon.

Nearest post office---- 15 miles away. 30 miles round trip.

Chevy Suburban --- 12mpg = 3 gallons of gas = $6.60 just to get to post office and back.

Point..... I'll charge what I want to ship an item. It's my business and it cost money and I'm in it to make money not lose it on shipping.

[mb7241]

I've asked for refunds before when shipping either wasn't done using the prescribed method or when shipped in such a way as to cause the package to be damaged while in transit. I seem to have about a 90% success rate. Usually, if it's under $4-$5 that I would ask for, I won't care, but it so happens that I have been put into situations where I should request more, and in each situation, I have been partially refunded. There was a time when I paid for a Lunar: Eternal Blue (Sega CD) to be shipped to me via Priority Mail in a sturdy box with delivery confirmation and insurance. It was instead shipped 1st-class in a padded envelope with neither confirmation nor insurance, and arrived quite heavily damaged (the back insert had gotten wet while in transit, and the case had to be completely replaced. That seller refunded me $8 out of the $12 I asked for (and the entire purchase was about $35)... Just my two cents. Also, all I charge where shipping is concerned is for actual shipping costs. If I overestimate or underestimate, it usually isn't by much (at most 5%, except where larger items are concerned).

[fishsandwich]

Yes, yes, yes, I know... I shouldn't bid if I don't like the shipping charges. I do anyway.

And that's why you're 100% wrong. Honestly I stopped reading the rest of your response after this part because nothing else that you could say would make a difference any more.

And reading 10% of the thread nets you only 10% comprehension. Maybe you should have kept reading. I'll pay shipping even if it's high and I'll leave positive feedback. It's just when I'm getting raped on shipping (again, read) that I get angry and start e-mailing the seller.

Several people have taken serious issue with me on this... and I haven't changed my opinion on shipping gouging one tiny fraction of a miligram. If a seller who sells hundreds of items a month charges me $8 to ship my fragile N64 box in a bubble envelope and pays $1.10 to ship it then he's getting a negative. And that's just one example.

Keven_psx and his $4 media mail shipping is fine... I wouldn't take issue with that at all. A CD costs about $1.50 to ship media. Figure in an envelope, bubble wrap, tape, and various fees and what little profit he's made on shipping is being eaten away. I'd have no problem with that at all.

But the guy who makes $5 profit per CD, promises 1st class shipping and ships media, charges for required insurance but doesn't actually insure it, and ships my game so shoddily it arrives in a broken case is going to get a NEGATIVE. So is the guy who charges $8 shipping for a boxed N64 game but can't bother to send it in anything better than an envelope. Or the girl who promised to "combine shipping" and shipped 3 CD's for $13 (she knocked $1 off each auction! Thanks!)

These examples aren't black and white. They are shades of gray. Every auction is different, and the vast, VAST majority of the feedback I leave is positive. I'm around 99% now.

As for the guy who sells one package and then drives a 30 miles in his Chevy Suburban to have it shipped... dude, you need to sell more than one item to make your trip worthwhile. Make trips in your gas hog only once a week. Maybe explore the convenience that is PayPal shipping.

I'm done now. You may all continue to dump on me. I've made my point numerous times and I'm only making it one more time.

OBVIOUS SHIPPING GOUGING EQUALS NEGATIVE FEEDBACK

[kevin_psx]

. I have received "you charge too much" negs for $4.00 media S&H. I am also sore about that. It was not deserved.
Keven_psx and his $4 media mail shipping is fine...
Glad you agree that neg was not deserved. But think you can see why I get angry about buyers bitching about shipping.

If the _____ buyers think $4.00 is too high they should not bid.



And where the hell did you get the idea that once I have won an auction I am automatically obligated to leave positive feedback?!! That's crazy talk, Kevin.
I'M finished now.

[jonjandran]

As for the guy who sells one package and then drives a 30 miles in his Chevy Suburban to have it shipped... dude, you need to sell more than one item to make your trip worthwhile. Make trips in your gas hog only once a week. Maybe explore the convenience that is PayPal shipping.

I was making a point which you obviously didn't get. :)

[Steven]

alright guys, lay off Fish. He stated his opinion and policy on this subject, as you guys have. I think we should just leave it at that and walk away.

[XianXi]

I think what Fish is trying to say is when a seller overcharges for shipping they can at least make up for it with the packaging and handling.

To me if a seller charges me $10 for priority and it is only $4.05 but they have bubble wrap and sytro peanuts to protect my item then I am happy because they took their time to ensure it arrives safely. But if a seller charges me $8 for 1st class and just ships my damn mint boxed game in a bubble mailer with no protection or care I get pissed.

[jajaja]

Im in the same situation now. I bought a Neo-Geo AES game and the seller said the shipping was $23. I live in Europe and i know an AES game is rather heavy so i guessed it was about the right shippingprice.

When i recived it i see it only cost about $12. I e-mailed the seller twice about this, never got an answer. Weeks later i contacted the seller again and asked if he/she had gotten my mails and got a reply "no". I explained the situation again. Now its been nearly 48 hours and still no reply.

I will leave negative feedback if no reply. Its most because of the principle, not the money. Will most likely get a negative back tho :(

[XianXi]

Im in the same situation now. I bought a Neo-Geo AES game and the seller said the shipping was $23. I live in Europe and i know an AES game is rather heavy so i guessed it was about the right shippingprice.

When i recived it i see it only cost about $12. I e-mailed the seller twice about this, never got an answer. Weeks later i contacted the seller again and asked if he/she had gotten my mails and got a reply "no". I explained the situation again. Now its been nearly 48 hours and still no reply.

I will leave negative feedback if no reply. Its most because of the principle, not the money. Will most likely get a negative back tho :(

Which seller dude? I need to know so I dont deal with them.

[jajaja]

I'll let you know if it doesnt work out.

[Steven]

Im in the same situation now. I bought a Neo-Geo AES game and the seller said the shipping was $23. I live in Europe and i know an AES game is rather heavy so i guessed it was about the right shippingprice.

When i recived it i see it only cost about $12. I e-mailed the seller twice about this, never got an answer. Weeks later i contacted the seller again and asked if he/she had gotten my mails and got a reply "no". I explained the situation again. Now its been nearly 48 hours and still no reply.

I will leave negative feedback if no reply. Its most because of the principle, not the money. Will most likely get a negative back tho :(

I got a possible solution for you: Just wait til the 89th day and the last hour to leave negative feedback. After 90 days after an auction ends, you can no longer leave feedback.

Someone taught me that several years back, and I'm shocked not many people know about it. FOR THE RECORD I have never had to resort to using the 89 day thing. Never.

[jajaja]

Thanks, but you can leave feedback after 90 days also :(
All you have to do is to go site map - leave feedback for a member - write username, auctionnumber and reason.
I've done this myself like 100 days after the auction ended. I dont know how long it works. I still got negative back after 100 days hehe :(

[Steven]

Thanks, but you can leave feedback after 90 days also :(
All you have to do is to go site map - leave feedback for a member - write username, auctionnumber and reason.
I've done this myself like 100 days after the auction ended. I dont know how long it works. I still got negative back after 100 days hehe :(

well then it just makes me all the more glad I never had to resort to using the 89 day thing! :P

[esquire]

Case in point... The guy who advertised first-class shipping for $5 and required $1.50 insurance. The item arrived media mail ($1.50) with no insurance at at. I e-mailed the guy and he said he was "self insured." No reply about the 1st class shipping. He made $5 profit off me. Not a seemingly big deal, but he's a big seller and does that to ALL his buyers. Those $5 add up to a substantial profit that offsets any fees he's incurring.

or better yet, this guy phoenixtradingcompany (http://cgi.ebay.com/ANIMANIACS-Super-Nintendo-SNES-Game-NEW_W0QQitemZ8266197053QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)

He sells a bunch of "new" SNES carts (they are not new, necessarily - take a look at the label) for like $0.49. The $4.95 S&H is not so bad, and neither is the $2.95 for each add'l item, even though he's probably gouging. But what gets me is the insurance. $1.50 for the first item and $0.75 for each add'l item. Clearly not USPS insurance. Moreover, the insurance costs more than the game itself!!! On a whim I emailed him once asking if insurance could be waived because I'd be better off just re-purchasing the game from him if it got "lost" or "destroyed" in transit. He of course refused. Now its only $1.50 or $0.75, but that just pisses me off. Of course I did not bid.

[Griking]

nevermind

[kevin_psx]

Gas $2.20 a gallon. Nearest post office---- 15 miles away. 30 miles round trip. Chevy Suburban --- 12mpg = 3 gallons of gas = $6.60 just to get to post office and back.

Point..... I'll charge what I want to ship an item. It's my business and it cost money and I'm in it to make money not lose it on shipping.

Well said. If customers don't like your $6.60 S&H free-- no one is forcing them to bid.

And if they do bid-- then they have no right to complain.

[Griking]

Well said. If customers don't like your $6.60 S&H free-- no one is forcing them to bid.

And if they do bid-- then they have no right to complain.

Well then what was that huge blowup about the guy that charged you $100 to ship a bunch of Playstation games? He clearly stated his shipping fee in the auction listings and made it clear that he didn't combine shipping. Yet you found the need to complain about it. I'm not commenting about the quality of the games that eventually sent to you, just the stink that you made about what he was charging to ship them.

[kevin_psx]

Well said. If customers don't like your $6.60 S&H free-- no one is forcing them to bid.

And if they do bid-- then they have no right to complain. Well then what was that huge blowup about the guy that charged you $100 to ship a bunch of Playstation games?


Asked & answered. Multiple times.

Thought sellers were >required< by ebay to combine shipping. I was wrong. Ebay told me sethpackard does not have to combine shipping. I was wrong to complain.

Write that down so you remember it Griking.

[XianXi]

Well said. If customers don't like your $6.60 S&H free-- no one is forcing them to bid.

And if they do bid-- then they have no right to complain. Well then what was that huge blowup about the guy that charged you $100 to ship a bunch of Playstation games?


Asked & answered. Multiple times.

Thought sellers were >required< by ebay to combine shipping. I was wrong. Ebay told me sethpackard does not have to combine shipping. I was wrong to complain.

Write that down so you remember it Griking.

sethpackard??? dammit. I just bought a Guilty Gear for PS2 last month from him and asked him to ship it 1st class but he shipped it media so I still haven't gotten it yet.

And he charged me $7 for shipping. My fault though. I dont mind waiting for it.

[kevin_psx]

Out of the 24 games he sold me

--only 4 matched the auction description. Don't be surprised if your "mint" game is not mint. Or your "good condition" game does not work at all.

I don't see how he gets over 98% happy customers.

[Steven]

Out of the 24 games he sold me

--only 4 matched the auction description. Don't be surprised if your "mint" game is not mint. Or your "good condition" game does not work at all.

I don't see how he gets over 98% happy customers.

my guess is because most eBayers are scared to get bad/ho hum marks, so they'll say "great thanks" or even "A+" when the transaction was really subpar, borderline bad. People are scared to say the truth, because of the retaliation factor.

[kevin_psx]

Yes, yes, yes, I know... I shouldn't bid if I don't like the shipping charges. I do anyway.

And if someone charges me $8 and then sends it in a bubble envelope for $1.10 then he's going to get a big fat negative with something like "Item arrived as promised but I was RAPED on shipping. THIEF."

Sue me.
As a buyer, it is your responsibility to review the payment methods available to purchase the item and to make certain you agree to the seller's terms. Before submitting a winning bid or buying an item, please remember that when you click "Place Bid" or "Buy It Now" you are entering into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller.
Meaning = You agreed to sign the contract & have no right to neg a seller for that which you agreed to.

[kevin_psx]

I'M finished now.
EDIT - welcome to my blocked bidder list Do not want customers as troublesome as you Fair enough. PM me sometime and tell me how you block a bidder when you don't know their ebay ID. That's a neat trick.
Searched your posts that included links to Ebay & revealed your ID.

[fishsandwich]

I'M finished now.
EDIT - welcome to my blocked bidder list Do not want customers as troublesome as you Fair enough. PM me sometime and tell me how you block a bidder when you don't know their ebay ID. That's a neat trick.
Searched your posts that included links to Ebay & revealed your ID.

Umm, that wouldn't have worked real well Kevin. Actually, it wouldn't have worked at all. I have never posted a link to an auction I have won or hosted. Just auctions that caught my eye. You have blocked some stranger. I don't even bid very often anymore, and I only just recently had a run of sales to clear out some extras. We need some more smarties around here.

Kevin, you seem to be missing my point. Again. I have ALWAYS paid for my past auction wins. ALWAYS. My feedback is 98%. Like I've said two hundred and five million times previously, I don't mind paying higher-then-necessary shipping costs if the item is in good condition and is packaged well. Let's go over this again. I get pissed when...

1. I am blatantly overcharged for shipping (example... $8 for shipping and they send it Media Mail for $1.50)

2. I am overcharged for shipping and the item arrives poorly packaged. Actually, this is true of ANY seller, no matter what I get charged for shipping. If something arrives damaged due to poor packaging then I am going to take issue with the seller.

You keep quoting Ebay policy. There is no policy stating that you must leave positive feedback once you have paid for the item and have received it. You understand this concept, don't you? You wrote this earlier...

You agreed to sign the contract & have no right to neg a seller for that which you agreed to.

I have every right to leave a seller bad feedback if my item arrives damaged. Or not as advertised. OR IF I WAS RAPED ON SHIPPING. I have always contacted a seller BEFORE leaving feedback, but if I encounter an asshole seller who feels perfectly justified in charging me $8 to ship a complete N64 game that was sent media mail for $1.60 and arrived crushed and flat then I have left him a negative.

BOTTOM LINE- A winning bid does not automatically mean positive feedback.

We can go back and forth on this all you want, Kevin. You aren't going to change my mind about sellers who rape their buyers on shipping, and I don't think you even understand my points. But fire away, dude.

[§ Gideon §]

I just won 10 auctions from the same seller, located in Japan. The shipping is $35 EMS. That's to be expected, but the part I'm worried about is the additional $19 in handling.

Of course, with single auctions the case is black and white: You pay what's stated in the item description. Anyway, here's what the auction states on combined shipping:


When you win two or more items, we will notify you the combined shipping cost after the end of auction.

The question then becomes: Does 19 extra bucks breach the "reasonable" boundary set by eBay? I've tried contacting him, but either he doesn't know enough English or I don't know enough Japanese. Hehe. I'll keep at it, but I would really appreciate some input from you guys in the meantime. Thank you.

[Kitsune Sniper]

I just won 10 auctions from the same seller, located in Japan. The shipping is $35 EMS. That's to be expected, but the part I'm worried about is the additional $19 in handling.

Of course, with single auctions the case is black and white: You pay what's stated in the item description. Anyway, here's what the auction states on combined shipping:


When you win two or more items, we will notify you the combined shipping cost after the end of auction.

The question then becomes: Does 19 extra bucks breach the "reasonable" boundary set by eBay? I've tried contacting him, but either he doesn't know enough English or I don't know enough Japanese. Hehe. I'll keep at it, but I would really appreciate some input from you guys in the meantime. Thank you.

$35 EMS isn't that bad. Were the items small games or CDs? I say that's not bad because I've been charged $15-20 for one CD. The $19 fee is excessive, though... jeez. Keep asking, he has to give you a discount.

[Steven]

Sorry to hear that, G. It's always a danger to buy multiple items from a seller who states "will combine shipping" but doesn't offer a ballpark figure. If at all possible I always try to get a quota from these guys.

2 recent cases of the good and bad when I bought 2 games from a seller who had the "combine shipping policy"

1. 2 SNES games. $4 total pre shipping. YAY! Shipping for one game was listed $5. Total? $12. I saved 2 bucks on combined shipping. Woot woot :roll: (c'mon now, 8 bucks to ship 2 loose SNES games? Anyway, I managed to get him down a buck -- the original invoice was $13 which was WAY TOO MUCH. I just said to msyelf I'll bite the bullet and watch out in the future)

2. 2 SNES games again. $3.50 total preshipping. YAY! Shipping for one game listed at $3. Total? $6.99!! Wow, the seller only added 49 cents for the extra game! What a nice lady.

Nowadays I ask first if I can help it, just to be aware of what my total might be. Sometimes though you find an auction in their closing minutes and it's too late to ask, you just bid and hope S&H won't be unfair.

[kevin_psx]

I have never posted a link to an auction I have won or hosted. You have blocked some stranger. Ooops. (shrug)
The question then becomes: Does 19 extra bucks breach the "reasonable" boundary set by eBay?

File an 'excessive shipping' dispute through ebay & see what they say. Probably 'no'.

No response to emails? May be an invalid email address? File an invalid email complaint.


---> If Shipping is stated as "$10.00" I don't think the seller deserves a negative. Yes it's excessive but I think if you agree to pay it, then you also agree to leave a + feedback (if the game was in good condition)

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[deejay726]

After buying just about 1000 games on ebay i kind of know what the shipping is. ive also sold games on ebay. I mark up shipping to account for the ebay selling fee and paypal fee. anything above that and i dont bid