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Darth Sensei
04-05-2006, 09:04 AM
http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/8726/WOW_an_Online_RPG_Funeral_Gets_Ambushed_Without_Me rcy
There's a video and everything. Unfortunately the video is waaay too long.
What do you guys think?
Darren870
04-05-2006, 09:09 AM
That game makes me so sad, that people actually have time to waist and rot infront of the computer.
My roomate like moved out of my room so he can play that game. He hasn't been here in 2 weeks and all thats missing is his computer. He took it to someone elses room where he just sits there and plays with that person. God forbid he actually did any work in college.
My brother has loged almost 90 days in that game...again, so sad.
Oobgarm
04-05-2006, 09:39 AM
That game makes me so sad, that people actually have time to waist and rot infront of the computer.
My roomate like moved out of my room so he can play that game. He hasn't been here in 2 weeks and all thats missing is his computer. He took it to someone elses room where he just sits there and plays with that person. God forbid he actually did any work in college.
My brother has loged almost 90 days in that game...again, so sad.
How is that different from any other videogame? The same thing can be said for practically any type of entertainment medium if not enjoyed in moderation.
n8littlefield
04-05-2006, 09:50 AM
I've seen the video before, and I have to admit I laughed my butt off. I don't know much about WoW, but I've been told they very easily could have held this funeral in a place that doesn't allow player vs player fighting. However, they chose an area where they could be attacked thinking people would respect their mourning - but seriously, that's not going to happen in an online PC game! It's horrible, but seriously, did they really not expect that to happen?
Howie6925
04-05-2006, 10:35 AM
I really dont know what to think of the video, I kind of had mixed emotions when watching it. I kept thinking the dude died in real life(which is sad in it own respect) but was part of a rival gang in WOW. I really dont know, I have never played the game but I can kind of see both sides of the story.
youruglyclone
04-05-2006, 11:03 AM
once again not a player of MMOs, but know something...why would you have an "event" like this on a PVP server?
still the video quality kinda sucks and you can't read anything.
jajaja
04-05-2006, 11:31 AM
I'm no MMORPG player myself, but this is extremely lame. I picture some fucking 16-18 year old american kids who tries to be damn cool. I know its just a game, but its about respect. These people dont own any respect it seems and need to be tought a lesson, like ban their accounts etc.
hezeuschrist
04-05-2006, 12:09 PM
That game makes me so sad, that people actually have time to waist and rot infront of the computer.
My roomate like moved out of my room so he can play that game. He hasn't been here in 2 weeks and all thats missing is his computer. He took it to someone elses room where he just sits there and plays with that person. God forbid he actually did any work in college.
My brother has loged almost 90 days in that game...again, so sad.
Could you speak up? Kinda hard to hear you waaaay up there on that horse of yours.
And honestly, anyone who expects anyone in any region of the internet to be respectful to any degree is a fool. People should have learned their lesson by now. If you've got any subject to discuss or event to hold that requires any degree of maturity, the internet is the wrong place to do it. If you want to hold a funeral, do it on a locked message board.
I'm not going to say they deserved it, but I will say they had it coming. No sympathy from me and I certainly don't blame the people that crashed it in any fashion.
Griking
04-05-2006, 12:30 PM
I'm no MMORPG player myself, but this is extremely lame. I picture some fucking 16-18 year old american kids who tries to be damn cool. I know its just a game, but its about respect. These people dont own any respect it seems and need to be tought a lesson, like ban their accounts etc.
I'm not trying to start an arguement but why is it assumed that the attacking guild had be be Americans?
As far as what happened, it's kind of sad but I have to say that it was very poor planning. The people who hosted this funeral knew it was a PVP server and had to assume that something like this would happen. A Primary city such as Darnasseus (spelling?) would have been much more secure with all of the guards and still offer the beauty of the waterways that they must have been looking for.
jajaja
04-05-2006, 12:35 PM
I'm not trying to start an arguement but why is it assumed that the attacking guild had be be Americans?
No no, thats not what im saying. Im not saying they are americans, I said i picture that kind of kids. The ones you see in highschool movies etc.
Neo Rasa
04-05-2006, 01:58 PM
Man I hate that WoW has consumed people's lives so much that they think other people would respect an online funeral. It was silly to hold in a place where player vs. player combat was possible.
MMO fans are one of the reasons I hate working in a game store too because they WILL, NOT, STOP, TALKING about their favored MMO and how good it is and how I should play it, ever.
Whenever an expansion of one of these games comes out there's like this whole sub-race of customers that only come out on those days. It's terrible. "She arose from the waves, a dank, deary worshiper of Dagon."
MMOs! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
God. Anyways my condolences to the deceased. It's really cool that people were probably only associated with online all turned up to pay their respects. It was pretty naive to not have it in a more secure area though. Also from what the article said it seems the people performing the attack took that clip of the whole thing. That's just tasteless.
Vinnysdad
04-05-2006, 02:28 PM
I dont play MMOs and am not really interested in them but that video was hillarious. They wiped out the entire funeral LOL . It is hard to feel sad for a dead digitized character.
jajaja
04-05-2006, 03:18 PM
I dont play MMOs and am not really interested in them but that video was hillarious. They wiped out the entire funeral LOL . It is hard to feel sad for a dead digitized character.
The guy died in real life. Read the article.
I dont know why so many people hate MMORPGs. Its a great way to communicate and socialize with others. Its nothing diffrent than chatting over IRC/MSN/AOL and sending letters like people did in the old days. I dont play MMORPGs myself, but i dont understand why people that dont even play hate them so much.
blissfulnoise
04-05-2006, 03:18 PM
Man I hate the Alliance.
That said, I'd personally slaughter every one of those bastards even if they were holding an event to honor the memory of those killed on 9/11. There's nothing too sacred for me to hold back from ganking a Paladin.
Horde for life.
Towlie2110
04-05-2006, 03:39 PM
Ehh, it could be fake like leroy, but still stupidity on their parts.
whoisKeel
04-05-2006, 04:16 PM
I haven't played this game before, but I still found it kind of funny. Maybe that's just my sick sense of humor. I also learned a new word "lowbies". :) I used to be pretty mean back in the Diablo days (the first one), so I guess I can relate to this. I can see how all the people that got attacked would be pissed though, but that just adds to the humor.
Muscelli
04-05-2006, 04:47 PM
hahahaa a cyber funeral for their little warcraft character LOL
jajaja
04-05-2006, 05:07 PM
hahahaa a cyber funeral for their little warcraft character LOL
The character is still alive, but the guy who owned it died in real life. Please read the article.
Apparently, some dude dies in real life who is a popular WoW player. The people in the game think it would be nice to have a memorial for the player so they log into his account, take the character to a lake, and set it up for everyone to come pay their respects.
Yamazaki
04-05-2006, 05:10 PM
Actually, there was nothing unnatural or stupid about it.
A rival guild attacks another guild during a funeral, thus attacking a weak spot.
WoW is a world full of war and violence. Its just natural that somethig like a funeral attracts enemies.
Or does anyone think, that ie Nazis would have waited for a GI funeral to end??
Neo Rasa
04-05-2006, 05:23 PM
War and violence in a World of Warcraft game?! @_@
jajaja
04-05-2006, 05:40 PM
Actually, there was nothing unnatural or stupid about it.
A rival guild attacks another guild during a funeral, thus attacking a weak spot.
WoW is a world full of war and violence. Its just natural that somethig like a funeral attracts enemies.
Or does anyone think, that ie Nazis would have waited for a GI funeral to end??
Hehe its not the same. The ppl who attacted even admit they did it just because to fuck up (it says "yes, we are assholes :D" or something at the end of the movie), not to gain skills. Nazis wouldnt attack just for fun, they would do it to gain territory. I know the game is about fighting and war, but its still a community and not a real war. So they could have shown some respect.
My Grandfather died a while back of cancer, and he was an active everquest player.
He himself would of laughed his ass off if he got ambushed one last time, he would of thought it fitting his "tanks" forgot to protect his rouge ass hehe.
Ed Oscuro
04-05-2006, 10:25 PM
My Grandfather died a while back of cancer, and he was an active everquest player.
He himself would of laughed his ass off if he got ambushed one last time, he would of thought it fitting his "tanks" forgot to protect his rouge ass hehe.
I think that's the right perspective. You can't ask the dead fellow, obviously.
I think it's a pretty damn crude thing to do, and no doubt awful for the people attending, but hey, the laughter that will be had definitely outweighs the expense of the embarassment :p
Crossposted here (http://www.forumplanet.com/gamespy/topic.asp?fid=1422&tid=1874150) if anybody else is interested in my witty commentary ;)
Darren870
04-05-2006, 10:47 PM
That game makes me so sad, that people actually have time to waist and rot infront of the computer.
My roomate like moved out of my room so he can play that game. He hasn't been here in 2 weeks and all thats missing is his computer. He took it to someone elses room where he just sits there and plays with that person. God forbid he actually did any work in college.
My brother has loged almost 90 days in that game...again, so sad.
How is that different from any other videogame? The same thing can be said for practically any type of entertainment medium if not enjoyed in moderation.
How is it not? Only MMO's consume peoples lives where they have a play file of 180 days. How can you say thats not sad? or like any other video game?
How many people do you know that have a play file close to 180 days? Who have stoped going to class and work to play a game? and stop having a social life? And if so, is it an MMO?
These game CONSUME peoples lives and its sad and pathetic. There have been numerous amounts of times where my brother and I have been at a friends house and he would sit at their house alone whie we were out so he could go on a raid.
What about the girl that died playing EQ because she didn't eat because she was to busy playing?
Could you speak up? Kinda hard to hear you waaaay up there on that horse of yours.
Oh yea because what, I think im better then people who have logged 90 days into a game? Well yea I do, and I dont care. Loggin 90-180 days into one single game to me is sad. You loose friends, your grades decline, and you sit there for 8-10 hrs a day watching the same game not even moving to get up and get some food, but yet order it every night.
That to me is sad and people that play these games do this. I have seen it every god damn day since the day the game came out. If im not at home watching my brother play trying to get him to go out, then im at yelling at my roomate to lower the volume because its 4am and im trying to sleep and he is still playing.
To host a funeral in a game for some one is sad and disrespectful. If they really would of cared about this person they would of gone to the actual memorial instead of hosting it online.
cyberfluxor
04-05-2006, 11:41 PM
Ya, I heard and read about this several days ago when it happened. I don't play WoW but have a few friends that play it too often.
It's sad that someone died in real life, and it's somewhat pathetic users would do such an act and record it in such a manor. I understand the main purpose of the video is for shock value and feedback, and most likely to create rage against them so there's more competition or attention on them. Sometimes this can even increase membership because their clan is a bit more well known in the community. Back back to initial thought, it's sad they did this period.
People can laugh at it if they want, and I understand where they're comming from. I use to kill other users on-line for fun and piss them off beyond belief, but there's always been other players out there that did it to me. Life goes on and crap happens.
jcalder8
04-05-2006, 11:48 PM
I've never played an MMO game before and I really have no interest in playing one. But personally I think it was wrong to do. But at the same time how naive must the other group have been to think that no one would attack them. It makes sense to me to get them when they are at their weakest. I don't know much about this kinda stuff but might the whole thing be fake? It seems pretty far fetched to me.
Darren870
04-05-2006, 11:59 PM
No its real my brother was ranting about it when it happened.
-hellvin-
04-06-2006, 01:50 AM
What is so sad about this? It's a couple of kids overpowering another faction for being idiots and leaving themselves open. It's there fault for thinking that MMO players, not just online players, but MMO would just overlook this event. Totally acceptable in my opinon. Not like they went to the kids grave and took a dump on top of it.
Edit: LMFAO, just watched a bit of the video. That's some of the funniest stuff I've seen in a while. Gimme a break, it's a freaking game, go pay your respects in a different way. I love the charge of all the players across the land and then the horrible carnage that ensues with tons of dead bodies everywhere.
They should have known this was going to happen, they posted what time the funeral was and were on a freaking WOW message board. They should have expected that.
smork
04-06-2006, 02:51 AM
Sorry, but it if were my friend, and I were attending, i'd probably initially be pretty mad, then laugh like hell. It's WoW, of course there's violence?
Your friend/family member dies. He's a biker, so you go for a ride, get in a fight. Good memorial! Your family's Irish -- you have a big fat wake with everybody really drunk. (i.e. - my grandfather's funeral) Fitting! You're a big time online gamer, there's a big brawl at the online funeral. Appropriate!
Anyone who's ever lost someone close to them knows that sometimes you gotta laugh about it, and mourn in an appropriate way, be that at a favorite campsite or listening to a favorite song -- or getting the crap beat out of you online. It works for me.
Fuyukaze
04-06-2006, 05:39 AM
Someone asked what the big difference between an MMO and any console game is? Well, it's actualy very simple.
See, with most MMO's I've experienced, you buy the software, get a month or two of online play for free, and then are required to pay 10-15 a month. With a console game, I take it home and be it a day, a week, a month, or even years, that game is mine to play as I please without ever having to deal with an online server or a monthly charge. There's no rush for me to get everything out of the game as I can in as short an amount of time. With an MMORPG, you are required to pay a monthly fee. As such, most players want to get as much bang for their buck as they can. First it's just a few hours, and next it's a full eight hours. It just keeps adding up untill people are playing it like they are a full time job. I should know how adicting it is as I once played them myself a long, long time ago.
As far as them having an online funeral, sure, I can see where it would be convient for everyone involved. There have been times a friend or family member has died where I had not been able to attend the funeral of simply because the money wasnt there to fly up on a moments notice. Was it a good idea? Yeah, yeah it was. Was it done porly? You got that right! They could have consolted Blizard about having it be either an official event, or altering his charcter so that it would not sustain damage. Or they could have simply had it where PvP was not posible. Either way would have been better. Should the atacking group be banned? No. They may have been a bunch of pricks for doing what they did under the reasons they did, but all that shows is a general lack of respect. Last time I checked, there was no required clause in the user agreement for WoW that required all players to be peachy sweet friendly. Should they be watched? Yes. Eh, I wont ever touch another MMORPG. I learned once that no matter how good the game, once more then 4 people can play it at the same time everyone becomes an asshole and is more then happy to ruin the gaming experience for everyone else so long as they feel they are getting their moneys worth.
Iron Draggon
04-06-2006, 12:51 PM
Well I followed all the links and I read all the related posts.
The idea of having a memorial service for this girl in-game was touching, and the chosen location makes sense if you read the original post announcing the service, but the fact that the people holding the service wanted to FRAPS it and send the video to the grieving family to me is just SICK.
I seriously doubt that the family really cares that about 50 people showed up for the in-game service for this girl in her honor. So the people she played WOW with are still playing it in her honor. WHOOP-TE-DOO! They could've done any number of IRL things to send their condolences to the family, and the best they could think of was to RP her wake in-game? Absolutely tasteless, IMO, and even more tasteless than the actions of the raid party that crashed the in-game service specifically to try and show those who arranged the event how truly tasteless it was.
The idea was a nice sentiment, but the exectution was very poorly done, and obviously not well very thought out. I understand that such things are typically arranged on a moment's notice IRL, but if the parties responsible for organizing this event had really thought about it in the first place, they should've realized what a tasteless idea it was to make a video of it and send it to the family. Perhaps the family would've understood the sentiment behind the ill conceived event, but really the in-game service should've been kept private between the gamers involved and away from the family. Send the family your condolences in a more traditional and respectful way. To me, the effort to FRAPS it and send it to the family trivialized the girl's death even more than the raid party who crashed the service did.
Now, with that said, LOL @ the video of the attack! The soundtrack to the whole thing is gold. Especially the part that shows the initial strike, where the guy runs up to the dead girl's character and attacks it, while the tune changes to Scatman. How painfully ironic for the mourners that it just happened to be the attacking guild's theme song. It is sad though that the girl who died actually hated PvP. And after seeing what happened to her in-game memorial, I can see why. She just liked to fish at that particular lake. So if she knows anything about what happened, I feel sorry for her for having to witness such a travesty at her memorial.
Stark
04-07-2006, 03:18 AM
Either you "get" MMO's or you don't and some who posted here definately don't understand how powerful some of these games are. They suck you in and some of them consume you and take over your life. For most it's fun but some people take it to the next level and it becomes a drug that you can't stop taking. I've been addicted to these games for years but not consumed by them.
An in-game funeral isn't new it's just an in-game event and in this case most of the people were fully aware that they would be (not could be) but would be attacked during this event.
Anyone that says playing these games is stupid please keep in mind that this is a game site to discuss gaming not preach your foolish assumptions and rude opinions. (Darren870 that means you)
GrandAmChandler
04-07-2006, 08:17 AM
Anyone that says playing these games is stupid please keep in mind that this is a game site to discuss gaming not preach your foolish assumptions and rude opinions. (Darren870 that means you)
Personal attacks will NOT be tolerated in this forum. Stark this means YOU.
Play nice kiddies. Or else.
Thanks in advance.
MarkMan
04-07-2006, 09:11 AM
The girl that died is probably smiling up in heaven.
It was a PvP server after all.
Darren870
04-07-2006, 11:47 AM
Anyone that says playing these games is stupid please keep in mind that this is a game site to discuss gaming not preach your foolish assumptions and rude opinions. (Darren870 that means you)
I said letting them consume you and taking over your lives is stupid. Not playing them.
Take it however you want though...
hezeuschrist
04-07-2006, 11:48 AM
That game makes me so sad, that people actually have time to waist and rot infront of the computer.
My roomate like moved out of my room so he can play that game. He hasn't been here in 2 weeks and all thats missing is his computer. He took it to someone elses room where he just sits there and plays with that person. God forbid he actually did any work in college.
My brother has loged almost 90 days in that game...again, so sad.
How is that different from any other videogame? The same thing can be said for practically any type of entertainment medium if not enjoyed in moderation.
How is it not? Only MMO's consume peoples lives where they have a play file of 180 days. How can you say thats not sad? or like any other video game?
How many people do you know that have a play file close to 180 days? Who have stoped going to class and work to play a game? and stop having a social life? And if so, is it an MMO?
These game CONSUME peoples lives and its sad and pathetic. There have been numerous amounts of times where my brother and I have been at a friends house and he would sit at their house alone whie we were out so he could go on a raid.
What about the girl that died playing EQ because she didn't eat because she was to busy playing?
Could you speak up? Kinda hard to hear you waaaay up there on that horse of yours.
Oh yea because what, I think im better then people who have logged 90 days into a game? Well yea I do, and I dont care. Loggin 90-180 days into one single game to me is sad. You loose friends, your grades decline, and you sit there for 8-10 hrs a day watching the same game not even moving to get up and get some food, but yet order it every night.
That to me is sad and people that play these games do this. I have seen it every god damn day since the day the game came out. If im not at home watching my brother play trying to get him to go out, then im at yelling at my roomate to lower the volume because its 4am and im trying to sleep and he is still playing.
To host a funeral in a game for some one is sad and disrespectful. If they really would of cared about this person they would of gone to the actual memorial instead of hosting it online.
Did a designer for Blizzard rape your dog or something? Because you have a completely unnatural and illogical hatred for this game.
And how is a group of people you know online paying respects online disrespectful? How does that even make any kind of sense? So what, the next time a DP member dies (god forbid) I should fly out to the funeral instead of offer my condolences to the family on the board? Do you listen to yourself when you talk?
To prove a point on the time played and all that crap, how many days do you have logged into the internet talking to other people over the past 3 years. Do the math, really. Take your time, figure it out. You've got over 500 posts here, so thats quite a few hours of sticking your foot in your mouth right there.
You seem to ignore the fact that the draw to an MMO isn't the game, it's the people. The game doesn't suck you in so much as being a part of a group of people that accomplish things. You play sports of any kind? Are you in a band? It's all the same, the medium is simply different. These games have a seriously deep level of human interaction that no other online games can really offer.
So you riddicule people that play MMOs because you haven't the slighest clue why they're so popular. You can't really be serious when comparing it to any single player game, and if you are, bravo. You've reached a new level of ignorance unseen the world over. At least you excel at something.
I started playing EQ in 2000, and quit in 2002, and I STILL talk to a large group of people from the game. Please let me know if thats sad and pathetic that I've made friends over the intarweb. And just to cement your idiotic sterotypes into place, yes, all the online females turned out to be 400lb guys with incredibly small wangs and had computer desks made completely out of empty mountain dew cans and bacon grease.
And just to cement your idiotic sterotypes into place, yes, all the online females turned out to be 400lb guys with incredibly small wangs and had computer desks made completely out of empty mountain dew cans and bacon grease.
except in Canada, where we all have big wangs and desks made out of beer cans and Canadian bacon grease.
Darren870
04-07-2006, 12:12 PM
You guys could say whatever you want and it will not change my opinion the slightest bit. You can call that ignorant or me a fool or anything you want. All i have to say to that is its just your opinion.
I only hate how these games consume you, as i sad before. If you dont let it consume you then good for you. Play on, personally I think WOW looks amazing visually. And +1 for making friends online, i've made a lot of friends online and have met 90% of them, never would of if it hadn't been for the internet.
However what my point was, and ill state it again, is when you let these games become your life. When you skip class so you can play, when you ditch your friends infront of you so you can play the game with your internet friends. When you go to bed early on a sat at a friends house because you know you have to wake up at 9am for a raid. When you are invited somewhere and you get there and you are just watching your friend play . When you loose your job because you are late because you were playing WOW.
Thats when its sad.
hezeuschrist
04-07-2006, 12:30 PM
However what my point was, and ill state it again, is when you let these games become your life. When you skip class so you can play, when you ditch your friends infront of you so you can play the game with your internet friends. When you go to bed early on a sat at a friends house because you know you have to wake up at 9am for a raid. When you are invited somewhere and you get there and you are just watching your friend play . When you loose your job because you are late because you were playing WOW.
Thats when its sad.
You can put any hobby in place of WoW in those situations and it's just as sad. Believe it or not, especially with WoW, the majority are not the hardcore that will sacrafice other aspects of their life for the game or guild.
Now with a game like EQ, it required an intense amount of play time to do anything, far far more than WoW. I remember when my guild leader asked me for my weekly play schedule so she could schedule raids around my playtime... and thats when I drew the line. I played a lot and I enjoyed it, and for a time it got pretty obsessive... but for the most part, I was in control, and the majority of people that play these games are in control of the addiction.
But as mentioned earlier, the enemy isn't the game, it's the addictive personalities. Anything in excess can kill you, and an online game is no different. Just remember that making sweeping generalizations about the audience of a certain game based on a few people around you who have taken it too far is pretty foolish.
You guys could say whatever you want and it will not change my opinion the slightest bit. You can call that ignorant or me a fool or anything you want. All i have to say to that is its just your opinion.
I only hate how these games consume you, as i sad before. If you dont let it consume you then good for you. Play on, personally I think WOW looks amazing visually. And +1 for making friends online, i've made a lot of friends online and have met 90% of them, never would of if it hadn't been for the internet.
However what my point was, and ill state it again, is when you let these games become your life. When you skip class so you can play, when you ditch your friends infront of you so you can play the game with your internet friends. When you go to bed early on a sat at a friends house because you know you have to wake up at 9am for a raid. When you are invited somewhere and you get there and you are just watching your friend play . When you loose your job because you are late because you were playing WOW.
Thats when its sad.
That pretty much goes for anything... people just need to know the limit...
Just like gambling, drinking, and anything else thats "fun" to them.
I don't hate gambling... or drinking, or MMO's becasue I know my limit and I get bored of that stuff fairly fast.. but hey, whatever makes you happy right? If you survive, and you are compfortable living life in a game, so what? I'll never understand why people pass judgment on somthing they can't understand becasue they don't feel the same way someone else does.
This goes for a massive amount of things... such as my buddy and his crappy ass car he mods to death even though its a hunk of garbage, and his in the bedroom relations, I don't understand becasue I don't feel like he does.
That reminds me, I need to call that flamer and tell him to put 20 bucks in the pot, that asshole still thinks his shitty car can "smoke" my 300 lbs torque pavment raping machine.
Roar.
blissfulnoise
04-07-2006, 12:45 PM
Now with a game like EQ, it required an intense amount of play time to do anything, far far more than WoW. I remember when my guild leader asked me for my weekly play schedule so she could schedule raids around my playtime... and thats when I drew the line. I played a lot and I enjoyed it, and for a time it got pretty obsessive... but for the most part, I was in control, and the majority of people that play these games are in control of the addiction.
I agree with all of your other sentiments, but it's much the same for WoW in the end game.
A full MC run without a wipe takes my current guild about 6 hours. BWL could be a lot more depending on how the night goes. AQ40 is a ways off at this point.
World of Warcraft is a deceptive game. Levels 1-59 can be done any way you want, grouped, solo, an hour at a time, 18 hours at a time.
Once you hit level 60 it changes the game quite a bit. Faction grinds can be done relatively casually to improve your itemization, but for me to get exalted with one faction (arguably the easiest in the game) it still took about 35 total hours of play time. Some of the easier dungeons can be cleared in an hour or two, but if you get serious, and start running the real end game, expect a large time investment.
People who show up for an hour or two whenever a 40 man raid takes place and then log off won't be running those raids for much longer as the guild will be happy to replace them with a more dedicated player.
Blizzard realized that once their players were hitting 60 in a month they needed to go back to the traditional MMO formula to keep that subscription money coming in. While there are a lot of choices on how to improve your character post-60, it doesn't mean they're casual.
PDorr3
04-08-2006, 12:31 AM
Im sorry but I found that video rediculously hilarious. You see this huge ass line for an "online funeral" with sad music, then it skips to some song that is hilarious. I just saw something so bad was about to happen as those guys were running togehter, and then the all out chaos at the end with tons of dead characters was just too funny. Sure its sad that someone died in RL, but this video is too funny.
Ed Oscuro
04-08-2006, 03:47 AM
Well I followed all the links and I read all the related posts.
The idea of having a memorial service for this girl in-game was touching, and the chosen location makes sense if you read the original post announcing the service, but the fact that the people holding the service wanted to FRAPS it and send the video to the grieving family to me is just SICK.
Thanks for the info.
Actually, here's the original topic (http://forums.illidrama.com/showthread.php?t=1826) if anybody's interested. Henry's comments on page 2 in particular had me rolling with laughter.
Anyway, I can't guess the circumstances of the death, but the LAST thing a family wants to be reminded of is how their child sequestered themselves away with a game. That goes for gaming in general, not just WoW.
Also, apparently some other group did it first (reading from Serenity Now's Forums (http://serenity-now.org/forums/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=4286;st=75)), and actually called the kid's family. Yikes.
christhegamer
04-09-2006, 08:45 PM
ROFL In a way I find this sick and unreligiously vile, but after I got over my stupid moral fiber (which only took ten seconds) I realized something incredibly obvious; this has got to be the greatest video of all time. And then they added-in the Scatman John song in which I am a complete sucker for, so, there you go.
CYRiX
04-09-2006, 09:51 PM
idc what anyways says on anything, but if they really cared about her they'd do more than a "virtual funeral" geez.
Griking
04-09-2006, 11:03 PM
idc what anyways says on anything, but if they really cared about her they'd do more than a "virtual funeral" geez.
I disagree. Many people have online only friendships and have never met in real life. When something like this happens it's sometimes not finanically possible to travel across the country to attend a funeral so they pay their respects in the most appropriate way they know. In a case like this where the people knew each other online through a game some of them may not have even found out about the death until after the funeral. These friends were brought together because of an online game and decided to pay their respects in the same way. I think it's a very nice thought.
Again though, they just didn't think it out and plan it right.
FullCircle
04-10-2006, 07:44 AM
Have you tried visiting their website listed at the end? Someone hacked the site - it's at serenity-now.org.
Raedon
04-11-2006, 11:03 AM
I look at MMORPG's like I look at alcohol, some people have a few and leave it while others loose their life to it, but they all have fun.
I lived in EQ and have fun with WoW. I've known a married couple who met five years ago in Everquest. It's not so strange when people die people grieve in many ways.
When I was in 6th grave the summer was spent with me playing Bard's Tale every day for two months. I didn't go outside or ride my bike or call friends. But when it was over I went back to normal kid-usa with the scateboarding with kids around the block.
Lay off people who have strange lifesyles, it isn't a social problem that will destroy lives.
People like to judge.
It's their nature.
Childish, pathetic, nature.
SirDrexl
04-11-2006, 03:51 PM
When I was in 6th grave
Speaking of funerals...
Jasoco
04-14-2006, 06:26 PM
My first thought was how much I despise MMO's. The concept is cool, but so many people get addicted to the fucking things. It's literally like cigarettes, booze or drugs or coffee. It's an actual addictive substance. People will sit and play and totally ignore their bodily needs until they die.
My second thought was about the lack of respect the other guild had. By the looks of the video, the people at the funeral weren't paying attention. I don't think one of them even moved during the whole slaughter. Were they at home? Maybe they left their computers on and actually went to the real funeral. That would be a hope. I'm sure these people should have gotten outside anyway.
But my final thought thanks to nik...
My Grandfather died a while back of cancer, and he was an active everquest player.
He himself would of laughed his ass off if he got ambushed one last time, he would of thought it fitting his "tanks" forgot to protect his rouge ass hehe.Made me think a different way about the situation.
If the person who died really cared enough about the game he was playing so much, maybe he really would have gotten a laugh out of being killed. I mean, isn't the whole point of the game not to let your guard down? It's a game.. about WARCRAFT. WAR. There are no rules in War. Anyone who holds a funeral or even a wedding online in a game where war is constantly being waged is asking to be slaughtered. Seriously.
I don't know what to think really. It's sad and funny at the same time. Sad in two ways. Sad that someone died. Sad that they held it online. Funny that they were all wiped out for stupidity.
c0ldb33r
04-14-2006, 06:52 PM
lol! I've never played WoW, but that was pretty funny. LOL
I like the credits - there's a guild called Gnomeland security. That's fantastic :)