View Full Version : MS buyout of Sony?
kainemaxwell
04-11-2006, 11:28 PM
http://www.bonafidereviews.com/article.php?id=148
EnzoSangiorgio
04-11-2006, 11:59 PM
And sammy bought capcom and is releasing a console under a sega/capcom banner
Muscelli
04-12-2006, 12:02 AM
i think it would be sort of sweet to have one console (excluding rev. which is on its own pretty much) where everybody can share the fun.. Imagine walking into a gamestop and searching throughout the whole store instead at a few designated shelfs..
im sure ps3 will do fine though, despite everything it has going aginst it
EnzoSangiorgio
04-12-2006, 12:06 AM
i think it would be sort of sweet to have one console (excluding rev. which is on its own pretty much) where everybody can share the fun.. Imagine walking into a gamestop and searching throughout the whole store instead at a few designated shelfs..
im sure ps3 will do fine though, despite everything it has going aginst it
It'll be like walking into a software shop where everything is Windows only.
Oh wait...
But anyway, no. We don't want to squelch competition and creativity. We want to get rid of megabehemoth companies like Microsoft, Sony, EA, etc. and get back to good games.
Griking
04-12-2006, 12:15 AM
It'll be like walking into a software shop where everything is Windows only.
Oh wait...
So what's the problem with that? With only one OS to carry software for retalers have more room to carry a larger selection of titles. Imagine the limited options you'd have at your local retailer if they tried to carry Windows, Mac, and Linux software all in the same small software dept. You'd most likely only have one or two titles of each genre of software to choose from tops.
Muscelli
04-12-2006, 12:24 AM
took this quote from somebody on another message board
its true guys they have been losing money hand over fist everywere. 60 minutes did a piece 3 weeks or so ago. they have 4 division. Home Electronics, Video Gaming, Movie production, and there Music Division.
so far there foot hold in Home Electronics has been eaten into by cheaper companies like Samsung, or Symphonic. there Movie Division is colapsing around there ears thanks to the Bombing of Confesions of a Giesha.
Music was never Profitable and there activly shopping it with its Movie Division.
so in short every Financal Analist ive seen says if there making the PS3 for 950$ a unit they have to sell it to turn a profit or there toast its due or die it all rest on the BIG shoulders of the PS3. it has to sell MORE then the PS2 did for them just to keep there head above water.
so rejoice Microsoft fanatics. soon the XBOX will be the undisputed Console Wars winner. Nintendo will just sit back and profit off nestalga. Microsoft will take another step torward WORLD OWNAGE!!!
^^^^
I seriously think this is going to happen, but if sony somehow makes blu-ray the standard for movie formats (theyre doing a horrid job at it at he moment, btw) then I think they can possibly redeem themselves with flying colors.. They seem like they are going to be in deep shit at the moment though
pacmanhat
04-12-2006, 01:05 AM
I'm not convinced that Sony's doing THAT bad, but I could see this happening eventually. This would definitely make for a good, amicable end to the 'console wars', in a way.
EnzoSangiorgio
04-12-2006, 01:08 AM
It'll be like walking into a software shop where everything is Windows only.
Oh wait...
So what's the problem with that? With only one OS to carry software for retalers have more room to carry a larger selection of titles. Imagine the limited options you'd have at your local retailer if they tried to carry Windows, Mac, and Linux software all in the same small software dept. You'd most likely only have one or two titles of each genre of software to choose from tops.
Not saying it's all bad, but videogames are different than software. There are free, easy to find alternatives to all those Windows only apps.
Now what if we had the Nintendo Revolution and the MicroSony XStation720, and when you walked into a Gamestop all they had was MicroSony software, and maybe one or two titles for the Revolution, probably being XStation720 ports. In that case would you be able to go online and download something you want for the Revolution as easily as you can for say, Linux? No, and that's the point.
It would suck for anyone who doesn't already buy online.
PLUS, Nintendo and it's third parties would be forced to cut down productions making everything harder to find, and more expensive for everyone.
Yeah! Monopolizing is great!
keiblerfan69
04-12-2006, 01:41 AM
Well Sony still sells alot of Playstations so I think that division is safe.
Ed Oscuro
04-12-2006, 02:07 AM
And sammy bought capcom and is releasing a console under a sega/capcom banner
"systems" in this case are likely to be for the arcade, not home.
Ed Oscuro
04-12-2006, 02:14 AM
Wait a second, where in the article did it make an argument that Microsoft was going to buy Sony? If they did, they didn't provide any quotes to back it up.
What a poorly written bunch of fanboy nonsense (even beyond the proofreading issues). If that's their standard of quality, I won't be visiting that site again.
EnzoSangiorgio
04-12-2006, 02:26 AM
And sammy bought capcom and is releasing a console under a sega/capcom banner
"systems" in this case are likely to be for the arcade, not home.
sarcasm
badinsults
04-12-2006, 02:35 AM
Microsoft is not buying Sony. It will never happen. This blog post is made by an idiot (and the kingdom of idiots, slashdot, propogated it).
Lothars
04-12-2006, 04:26 AM
took this quote from somebody on another message board
its true guys they have been losing money hand over fist everywere. 60 minutes did a piece 3 weeks or so ago. they have 4 division. Home Electronics, Video Gaming, Movie production, and there Music Division.
so far there foot hold in Home Electronics has been eaten into by cheaper companies like Samsung, or Symphonic. there Movie Division is colapsing around there ears thanks to the Bombing of Confesions of a Giesha.
Music was never Profitable and there activly shopping it with its Movie Division.
so in short every Financal Analist ive seen says if there making the PS3 for 950$ a unit they have to sell it to turn a profit or there toast its due or die it all rest on the BIG shoulders of the PS3. it has to sell MORE then the PS2 did for them just to keep there head above water.
so rejoice Microsoft fanatics. soon the XBOX will be the undisputed Console Wars winner. Nintendo will just sit back and profit off nestalga. Microsoft will take another step torward WORLD OWNAGE!!!
^^^^
I seriously think this is going to happen, but if sony somehow makes blu-ray the standard for movie formats (theyre doing a horrid job at it at he moment, btw) then I think they can possibly redeem themselves with flying colors.. They seem like they are going to be in deep shit at the moment though
I know it's not gonna happen, there's no chance of it
with sony being in deep shit, they have screwed up alot but to think that microsoft is any better is laughable
but seriously what do you think is doing a better job for a standard on movie format?
HD-DVD? lol not likely limited support and not really anything special
but I think just having the PS3 with blu-ray support is a smart idea and will be a great thing in the long run
I would honestly prefer one format for movies in general but that's a whole different topic
sorry for taking my post off topic
googlefest1
04-12-2006, 08:09 AM
4 divisions of sony?
No way, they have more than that. Unless they actualy said 4 major divisions. I know sony makes Stereo Lithography machines and other manufacturing stuff. They also partner up with other companys to bring out products and then sell clones of the parts for the product they helped bring out (I know that from personal experience).
There is no way MS will take over sony. I wondered if sony music made much money (They actualy have much of the good stuff - so it not surprising no one buys it [no sarcasm intended])
They made some mistakes with home electronics - pissed many consumers off
Sony pictures - im not surprised that didnt make any money either (they stuck to releaseing mostly quality stuff)
Im one of those disgruntled home electronics customers. So i stay away from sony products if i can. The only thing i liked about the company was the manufacturing stuff, the sony pictures and music. I am surprised that music and movies were big divisions for them. I actualy thought that sony pictures and sony music were more of a charity thing (like some kind of tax scheme) Bringing clasical music and other unpopular genres to the masses. Same with the movies - the more artsy drama stuff and foreign titles.
i thought that giesha movie made a killing. I didnt see it but i thought it somewhat compared to broken backside mountan in sales (thinking that it made a killing - have no idea - only about the hype)
sony is not going anywhere for a long time.
If anything, they are good for eachother, compatition brings fanboys... fanboys who will lay down the $ even if they are wrong about somthing.
Griking
04-12-2006, 01:21 PM
It'll be like walking into a software shop where everything is Windows only.
Oh wait...
So what's the problem with that? With only one OS to carry software for retalers have more room to carry a larger selection of titles. Imagine the limited options you'd have at your local retailer if they tried to carry Windows, Mac, and Linux software all in the same small software dept. You'd most likely only have one or two titles of each genre of software to choose from tops.
Not saying it's all bad, but videogames are different than software. There are free, easy to find alternatives to all those Windows only apps.
Now what if we had the Nintendo Revolution and the MicroSony XStation720, and when you walked into a Gamestop all they had was MicroSony software, and maybe one or two titles for the Revolution, probably being XStation720 ports. In that case would you be able to go online and download something you want for the Revolution as easily as you can for say, Linux? No, and that's the point.
It would suck for anyone who doesn't already buy online.
PLUS, Nintendo and it's third parties would be forced to cut down productions making everything harder to find, and more expensive for everyone.
Yeah! Monopolizing is great!
I still don't see a problem. Game stores are going to carry what sells and what they can make the most money selling. Currently the Gamecube isn't selling well so you see less Gamecube titles in your local Gamestop. If the Revolution turns out to be a good console with games people want to play you can be sure that it'll be available in your local game store. Now what would worry me more would be if someone like Microsoft purchased Gamestop.
njiska
04-12-2006, 02:40 PM
sony is not going anywhere for a long time.
If anything, they are good for eachother, compatition brings fanboys... fanboys who will lay down the $ even if they are wrong about somthing.
Pretty much my thoughts. Although if Blu-Ray fails, which given Sony's past is a possibility, then it is entirely possible that they could be bought out by one of their rivals. Microsoft, of course, being the rival with the deepest pockets.
The S
04-12-2006, 02:54 PM
Microsoft, despite rumors to the contrary, thrives on competition. They wouldn't buy out their biggest competition. Why do you think Apple lasted this long? Bill has been funding Steve "secretly" all along.
c0ldb33r
04-12-2006, 03:06 PM
If MS did buy out Sony, wouldn't they just buy out the video games division? Why would they want the rest of it? I couldn't really care either way at this point. If the PS3 is as expensive as anticipated, it way outside what I'd pay.
Diatribal Deity
04-12-2006, 03:17 PM
Times are a changin'. Electronics Boutique (aka EB Games) was prepared to buy out Funco and Babbages when they went belly-up, but due to the potential monopoly, it was not allowed back in the day.
Needless to say we all observed what happened over the past year...
Never say never.
If I had to venture a guess, Sony will start closely looking at each of their divisions and begin discontinuing or selling them off (they may have already started doing this) http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2005/nf20050916_6917_db039.htm?campaign_id=search. If they begin to really start hurting there are many large private equity firms hunting out there which may seek to re-invent Sony which may not be a bad thing from a senior level/management perspective.
MrRoboto19XX
04-12-2006, 03:20 PM
Hey, as far as I care, the whole industry can collapse, and nintendo can come back and save it again. :D
But seriously, I dont see any of this happening.
Then again, maybe this topic should be moved to classic gaming, since all these consoles have already failed. ;)
SNKFan75
04-12-2006, 04:17 PM
NO!!!!!!!! This had better be a rumor. If only one games company were to be around, then they could charge whatever they wanted. Consumer diversity is what makes everything affordable. There should never be a monopoly of video games, ever!
Friendly compitition is what makes the world what it is today.
Imagine if Apple won and that was all you could buy, hate to think of it.
SNKFan75
Predatorxs
04-12-2006, 04:20 PM
I love all the talk of the "Games Wars" but companies come and go, i mean i'm still waiting for Sega to return, i'm nintendo thru-n-thru, and always will be, it was weird when Sega finally told the world they were finished in the Hardware market. It was good to see they continued the games thou, i could never hate sega there games where 2 good!
(after the 16bit wars, it was sad to see them go, the way they did, 2 companies 2 machines 16bit heaven! that was a War!.. blow for blow, if i ever get asked i always say the Nintendo won on points :P )
Sometimes it's best to pullout, maybe sit back and give it a few years, then return with a fresh new brand and system. I'd like to see Sega come back with a new machine!
All round it's been good for gamers, i can imagine most of us gamers looking back with nostalgia, at the late 90's early 2000's, and wondering why we didn't appreciate it more.
In the space of 10 to 12 years we have had the, N64, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, the Gamecube, the Xbox, Xbox 360, not to mention all the handheld machines, it's truly been a "lost-for-choice-era", all the games, the machines! we've never had it so good.
Look at all the choice we have know.. i suppose it's more a case of realising what we had after we've lost it?
Anyway, DOWN with sony, they only ever entered the whole gaming arena for $$$$, i'd like to think nintendo has risked alot in sticking with the whole "fun 'n' innovative" aspect, they pride themselves on! ( Huuraaaaaaa!!!!! for nintendo! )
(Mood : I feel lethal! :/)
slip81
04-12-2006, 04:46 PM
It'll be like walking into a software shop where everything is Windows only.
Oh wait...
So what's the problem with that? With only one OS to carry software for retalers have more room to carry a larger selection of titles. Imagine the limited options you'd have at your local retailer if they tried to carry Windows, Mac, and Linux software all in the same small software dept. You'd most likely only have one or two titles of each genre of software to choose from tops.
What's wrong with that is that people shouldn't be forced to bow to one OS.
stressboy
04-13-2006, 06:30 PM
i think it would be sort of sweet to have one console (excluding rev. which is on its own pretty much) where everybody can share the fun.. Imagine walking into a gamestop and searching throughout the whole store instead at a few designated shelfs..
im sure ps3 will do fine though, despite everything it has going aginst it
I don't think that would be sweet at all. Eliminate competition and you would kill a lot of the drive that makes people more creative. Not only that, but there would be little incentive to drop the price.
Seriously, a one console future would not be a good place to be. Bring on the competition. Those of us that buy every console will be the happiest of them all.
Oh yeah.. that article was awful. It's too bad that slashdot picked it up, since it gives them the exposure that they do not deserve.
Griking
04-13-2006, 07:19 PM
It'll be like walking into a software shop where everything is Windows only.
Oh wait...
So what's the problem with that? With only one OS to carry software for retalers have more room to carry a larger selection of titles. Imagine the limited options you'd have at your local retailer if they tried to carry Windows, Mac, and Linux software all in the same small software dept. You'd most likely only have one or two titles of each genre of software to choose from tops.
What's wrong with that is that people shouldn't be forced to bow to one OS.
Well you're not. Feel free to download and install your favorite Linux variant. Unfortunately most retailers will only have room to carry software for one OS and they're going to choose the one that will bring them the most sales. That has nothing to do with MS, it's has everything to do with the way retail works.
And keep in mind that even if this were true, it wouldn't be a one console market. Nintendo would still be there to compete and to keep MS honest in their pricing. And software publishers would still compete with each other to make the best selling games on whatever console was out there.