XBox, PlayStation, or Nintendo..Which will die first.

[80sGamer]

Which on of these companies will go out of business first and why?

[stressboy]

Which on of these companies will go out of business first and why?

Don't you mean MS, Sony, and Nintendo?

And I don't think any of them will go out of business within the next few decades.

[njiska]

Although this thread is a bad idea that will lead into pointless fanboy ranting, Sony would logically be the first to die.

Microsoft has huge cash reserves and is making billions.

Nintendo has huge cash reserves and has only ran in the red for two months since the company began in 1889.

Sony is losing a pissload of money in almost all of it's divisions and the entire company is ridding on Blu-Ray. Given Sony's history of failing to launch new formats and given the suprisingly strong opposition in the gaming market (Sony's only consistently profitable division) things aren't looking to bright for the company.

[stressboy]

Regarding Sony, this was posted on Bloomberg earlier today:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000101&sid=af9iUxutozZQ&refer=japan

[The Shawn]

I will agree that Sony will die first.(not for awhile) But I think Nintendo sales in the U.S. will die. Because of there lack of Mature games. As is always the case. My opinion

[SNKFan75]

I hope none of them go away. If there is a change, possibly Sony will just elave the games market and stick to home electronics/PC harware.

SNKFan75

[njiska]

I hope none of them go away. If there is a change, possibly Sony will just elave the games market and stick to home electronics/PC harware.

SNKFan75

They're not doing a great job in that field either. I'd prefer they stick to the things they're good at. Like powermanagement on Video Cameras.

[Griking]

Who cares?

Besides, since neither the PS2 or Revolution are out yet and nobody's even seen one how can you expect anyone to make an educated guess?

[njiska]

Who cares?

Besides, since neither the PS2 or Revolution are out yet and nobody's even seen one how can you expect anyone to make an educated guess?

Easy. You look to the past to determine the future and you look at estimates.

2 companies are in solid shape and can take a loss, one can't. So logicially the first to die should be the one that can't take a loss.

It's not an exact science it's just an educated guess based on everything we're seeing.

[Rockman Neo]

Who cares?

Besides, since neither the PS2 or Revolution are out yet and nobody's even seen one how can you expect anyone to make an educated guess?

Ehm...I'm pretty sure the PS2 has been out for quite a while.

And I do hope Sony ends up croaking. I think Sony is a bigger money hog than Microsoft ever was.

[The Shawn]

Sony will die!!!!
Nintendo will not use the core of the system to make U.S. Gamers appreciate. PERIOD!!!!
As it always is.

[tylerwillis]

Although this thread is a bad idea that will lead into pointless fanboy ranting, Sony would logically be the first to die.

Microsoft has huge cash reserves and is making billions.

Nintendo has huge cash reserves and has only ran in the red for two months since the company began in 1889.

Sony is losing a pissload of money in almost all of it's divisions and the entire company is ridding on Blu-Ray. Given Sony's history of failing to launch new formats and given the suprisingly strong opposition in the gaming market (Sony's only consistently profitable division) things aren't looking to bright for the company.

More-or-less what I would have posted word-for-word.

[Rev. Link]

Nintendo will not use the core of the system to make U.S. Gamers appreciate.

O_O English not your best language?

Anyways, can someone please lock this one up? This thread is troll happy flame bait if I've ever seen it. Nothing good can come from it.

[njiska]

Nintendo will not use the core of the system to make U.S. Gamers appreciate.

O_O English not your best language?

Anyways, can someone please lock this one up? This thread is troll happy flame bait if I've ever seen it. Nothing good can come from it.

True, but if you start locking threads for what they could do, then bad things could happen. As long as it's calm i say let it go.

[Juganawt]

After hearing the most recent news that the PS3's dashboard hogs up 25% of the processing power, as well as reserving the right to prioritize itself over games on an entire core. I'd say the PS3's going to kill Sony off sooner or later... with that much usage heading to the dash, that leaves the actual resources for games much lower than expected, and way below the Xbox 360.

to compare, X360's dashboard uses less than 4% of a single core's processor.

Either it'll bomb and Playstation will die faster than you can say "oh Look Ken Kutagari's saying something that's making sense for a change... oop sorry my mistake, it's just a pig flying", or it'll be a big seller and Sony's Gaming division dies from losing money on each console manufactured.

Of course the 3rd theory is that PS3 succeeds and Blu-Ray dies a death (AKA The UMD - Utterly Miserable Death) - that way Sony will drop dead within months, and someone will pick up the rights to the Playstation Brand - perhaps Microsoft would buy it, as they have pockets deeper than Nintendo does.

Nintendo will always be around - perhaps not in the console market, but in the handheld division they are simply unmatched, and that won't change in the foreseeable future.

Microsoft is one of the biggest and richest corporations in the world. Even if the Xbox 360 sold 1000 machines in it's entire lifetime the losses would barely dent their pockets, and they've already put it on the record that they'll "play again" with a future console, regardless of whether X360 becomes number 1 or not.

So my prognosis is Playstation as we know it will die first. May not be this year, maybe not 2007, but I'd hazard a guess at perhaps 2010 if things don't go smoothly with the BR and PS3 launches.

[Niku-Sama]

i would have to say M$ will be the first, granted they have a huge surplus of cash behind them but when you take into consideration the slow sales or problems (example: japan any one?) there comes a time when your gonna go hey, this aint workin....and stop...damage control in a sence. walk away what what money ou have left and try something else...they could pull a sega....who knows since this is all theroy

[stressboy]

After hearing the most recent news that the PS3's dashboard hogs up 25% of the processing power, as well as reserving the right to prioritize itself over games on an entire core. I'd say the PS3's going to kill Sony off sooner or later... with that much usage heading to the dash, that leaves the actual resources for games much lower than expected, and way below the Xbox 360.

to compare, X360's dashboard uses less than 4% of a single core's processor.


I take it you can back this up with a link?

All the info I have read has said that the OS will have 1 SPE reserved for it. That is not 25% of the CPU power. The current issue people are talking about is the RAM, and it has not been verified, with some people saying that the RAM requirements on the OS have been shrinking with each devkit revision. There is a thread on GAF about it. You should read it.

Seriously.

As for the rest of your post.. basically no matter what Sony is fucked so they might as well just sell off to Microsoft, right?

[njiska]

Here you go.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060413-6600.html


Although they do an excellent job of proving that it shouldn't be an issue.

[Cmtz]

Who cares?

Besides, since neither the PS2 or Revolution are out yet and nobody's even seen one how can you expect anyone to make an educated guess?

Ehm...I'm pretty sure the PS2 has been out for quite a while.

And I do hope Sony ends up croaking. I think Sony is a bigger money hog than Microsoft ever was.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/MysticSaiyan/you_win_the_prize.jpg

[smork]

So, the bigger question is: who's going to go out of business first -- Atari, Phillips, Mattel, Coleco?

It's TOTALLY going to be Mattel. Those little disc controllers SUCK. And the O2? What's up with that KEYBOARD? It sucks. Bad.

I say Coleco PWNS! Can play Coleco cartridges AND Atari carts with an adapter? Winner!

But Mattel's going the way of the Fairchild, bitches!!!!1!

[badinsults]

I think each company has carved out a large enough niche that none will disappear. But really, let the console with the best marketing win, as that is what will happen.

[sabre2922]

Obviously Sony is betting big on BLUE RAY but I doubt that it could even come close to being a big of a failure as the UMD format and Blue Ray seems the most likely candidate to take over as the next entertainment format for movies/games etc. even though I dont see the current DVD format vanashing the instant the PS3 is launched as many ppl i.e. "casuals" are still perfectly happy with current DVD technology.

Even if the PS3 doesnt rule the next-generation race like PS2 has with current gen it would take MANY wrong moves by Sony to fuck up the possibilities of the PS3's success.

Even though Sony has already made a few misteps thus far- the foremost being underestimating Microsofts resolve in being #1 this time around and how popular the 360 ALREADY IS looong before the launch of the PS3.

It would take Mammoth failures of all kinds on Sonys end from marketing , time delays of major "exlcusive" games like MGS4 , and an over priced Playstation 3 the likes of wich we havent seen since the launch of the 3DO to both push Sony out of the Videogame industry AND Bankrupt Sony, wich IS a possibility when considering how much Sony is putting into the PS3 it is still a HIGHLY UNLIKELY scenario.

Im well aware that this board has many Nintendo fans but IF the Revolution is not a bigger success than the Gamecube it WILL be Nintendos last home console and that I do NOT want to happen.
EXAMPLE Nintendo stated: "IF THE REVOLUTION DOES NOT SELL MORE THAN GAMECUBE IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A FAILURE" as stated by Iwata himself.- yes I will find the link but I remember reading that statement both at Gamespot and IGN.
That statement falls just short of them stating that if the Revolution doesnt sell more than Gamecube that it will be their last Home Console.

As others have already pointed out Microsoft is in this for the long run and they have both the determination and more importantly the $$$ to back it up to put into videogames for as long as it takes to become the dominant force in the industry.

In conclusion I have to say that Nintendo has the highest probability of becoming the first casualty of this next-gen console war but not : "wich company will die first" but as far as Homeconsoles go, no matter how many of us on this board DONT want that to happen (including myself ).

[kedawa]

Nintendo isn't going anywhere, ever.
Microsoft can stay in the game for as long as they want to.
Sony is not in good shape at all, but they'll merge with (or get bought out by) another electronics company long before they'll go bankrupt. In fact, they've always had very close ties with Toshiba, and they rely heavily on Samsung for things like LCD panels.

I think the more pertinent question is when is Matsushita going to step in and take a piece of the action.

[Vinnysdad]

I hope none of the companies kick the bucket. I like to go into a store knowing I have plenty of games to choose from for three different consoles and three different handhelds.

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

Edith Keeler must die.

[Oobgarm]

I think each company has carved out a large enough niche that none will disappear. But really, let the console with the best marketing win, as that is what will happen.

Agreed 100%.

I love how these statements get lost amidst all of the flag-waving in these threads.

[Griking]

I think each company has carved out a large enough niche that none will disappear. But really, let the console with the best marketing win, as that is what will happen.

Agreed 100%.

I love how these statements get lost amidst all of the flag-waving in these threads.

The Dreamcast had better games than the PS2 at the time of it's demise but Sony had better marketing. Personally, I'd rather the console with the best games win but hey, that's just me.

[Juganawt]

The Dreamcast had better games than the PS2 at the time of it's demise but Sony had better marketing. Personally, I'd rather the console with the best games win but hey, that's just me.

Seconded. Games are the main criteria, and deservedly so

[Niku-Sama]

i donno about that dreamcast thing, it depends on who you are.

i found that alot of the games i liked on dreamcast were on other systems i already had...thats kinda why i am getting rid of my 2 dreamcasts. i just couldnt get into it.

so yea, depends on who you are.

[nik]

Whatever people vote with their wallet.

This is not a fanbase war, this is a money war.

They don't care if you love them, they just want your damn money, then the hookers take their clothes off and have sex with you.

Some look hotter then others, and are too expensive for some people, they need to judge a target income, the biggest, and that will determine the winner.

Being stacked with cash will only take you so far..

[ice1605]

Nintendo has too much of the market in Japan to lose in the next round of battles. M$, I hate them, but they aren't going anywhere for awhile. Sony could be in trouble. After all, the VHS-Betamax war ended in a failure for Sony, although Blu-Ray shows more promise than UMD. And as for Matsushita (Panasonic is Matsushita's U.S. arm), they provide parts to Nintendo if I remember correctly, and besides, Panasonic tried the 3DO, and it was a failure.

[s1lence]

Sega will.