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coreycorey2000
04-14-2006, 01:55 PM
I recently acquired a game that I've been dying to try out. Castlevania Vampire's Kiss. It's the prototype version. But I live in Canada and it's PAL. I was wondering how I could go about playing this? I seem to recall a model 2 SNES will play some PAL games without modification. But I doubt I'd be lucky enough for it to play this one. I dont have a local store that sells electronic components. So I can't find the parts I need to mod a snes. Is my only option to buy a convertor?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

staxx
04-14-2006, 02:01 PM
I don't think there is a lock out chip on the SNES games, rather it is just the physical shape of the cart. If you have a game bit, you can open up the cart and plug in the bare circuit and fire up your SNES. If not you basically have to buy a converter or use a Game copier :p

bazariah
04-14-2006, 02:07 PM
as a pal game there is now way it will play on your snes without an adequate converter... check out ebay.co.uk for a snes us/jap converter, this allows you to play pal games on ntsc snes machines by using an ntsc game in the back and the pal in the front :D

and yes pal snes games do feature lock outs

chaoticjelly
04-14-2006, 02:15 PM
Contact me for a converter, ive many different ones available, even the rarest "pro" and "expert" versions of converters..

staxx
04-14-2006, 02:17 PM
oooops I was wrong the SNES DOES have a lockout chip for PAL games. But with additional research I found a way to circumvent this is by using a Game Genie. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNES

Nintendo employed several types of regional lockout.

Game cartridges, depending on which market they were released in, were of different shapes. The North American model had a rectangular bottom that had inset grooves which when inserted complemented the console's shape whereas the Japanese, Korean, and European cartridges had a smoothed curve on the front of the cartridges with no inset grooves. Since the North American console has protruding grooves, the Japanese/European cartridges could not be inserted without the removal of these grooves and North American cartridges being completely rectangular could not fit into the slightly curved opening of the Japanese and European console units.

Additionally, a regional lockout chip within the console and in each cartridge prevented European games from being played on Japanese/North American consoles and vice versa despite the fact that European and Japanese Cartridges fit in each other's consoles. The Japanese and North American machines had the same region chip, so once the difference in the shape of the cartridges was overcome, cartridges were interchangeable.

The simplest way to play the Japanese and European cartridges in the North American system was to use a Game Genie cheat device with the small rectangular piece of plastic from its top removed. This not only circumvents the problem of different cartridge shapes but also removes any problem with lockout chips due to the internal design of the Game Genie.

badinsults
04-14-2006, 03:11 PM
A game genie cannot be used to circumvent the lockout. I believe a Pro Action Replay (versions 2 and 3) can. The game genie trick only works for Japanese games. Alternatively, you can modifiy your snes to have a switch to bypass the chip, but that is beyond my expertise.

Ed Oscuro
04-15-2006, 09:39 PM
Hoping some information about the game will be posted. Good luck with that :D

Mark III
04-18-2006, 08:47 PM
On the back part of the cartridge slot there is two plastic tabs which match up with the 2 grooves in the back of a US snes cartridge. If you take a pair of needlenose pliers and snap off the tabs you should be able to insert the cartridge. I use this method to play Japanese Super Famicon games on my US snes and have had no problems. I have also seen someone use this method to play a PAL version of Terranigma with no ill effects other than a border around the screen. May be worth a try. Won't help if there's a lockout chip but as I've said I've never had a problem with this method.

coreycorey2000
04-18-2006, 10:21 PM
I tried something. I used a model 2 snes, took the game out of the case and tried it. It didn't work. I didn't really expect it to. So looks like I need a convertor or the necessary pieces to mod a snes. If anyone could help me out, i would really appreciate it. I've seen lots of convertors for sale but most of them are for a PAL snes. Can i use them on a US snes? Are some better than others?
Thanks

CosmicMonkey
04-19-2006, 04:07 AM
Mod the console. No need to mess around with adaptors. Remove the tabs in the cart slot, and then do the Security Chip mod. Just give it an initial try to see if the game boots with the security chip disabled, you can add a switch later. If it still doesn't work, do the 50/60Hz mod (and stick a switch on the security chip too). Try the game in 50Hz with security off.

InsaneDavid
04-19-2006, 04:12 AM
Note: model 2 SNES systems have some metal embedded in the plastic tabs so they are harder to remove.

Nashounet
04-19-2006, 04:34 AM
Hello,

I'm a (PAL) Castlevania fan, could you send/PM me a picture of this prototype ?

When you will have played it, could you tell me what are the differences with the original (title screen, number of levels, etc) (please please please) ?

I feel enthusiatic since i've never heard of the avaibility of such a prototype !

Ed Oscuro
04-19-2006, 10:57 AM
Hello,

I'm a (PAL) Castlevania fan, could you send/PM me a picture of this prototype ?
The Dungeon needs one as well.

Also, don't mod a Model 2 SNES, given the demand...do a regular SNES, they're dirt cheap. S-Video capable, too.

coreycorey2000
04-19-2006, 05:01 PM
Don't worry, I plan on modding a regular SNES not a model 2. I have atleast 10 of them haha. The problem is there are no electronics stores around here. So I can't get the parts I need to mod the snes. I posted here hoping someone could sell me the parts but no one has replied.

I'll be sure to post info/screenshots as soon as I can play it.

Can anyone recommend a place online where I can buy the parts I need? I live in Canada if that makes any difference.

Thanks!

badinsults
04-19-2006, 11:00 PM
I image a combination of Radio Shack and Canadian Tire should have the tools you need. If you don't have the appropriate screwdriver bits, I got them from the Electric Quarter.

coreycorey2000
04-19-2006, 11:13 PM
I have the screwdriver bits. But my local radio shack doesn't sell electronic components. I tried buying the stuff to build a portable Nintendo but they didn't have anything. Maybe I should check out Radio Shacks website?

LuxKiller65
12-12-2007, 12:17 PM
Wake up you protothaïpe owner. Pics!

jb143
12-12-2007, 02:36 PM
Radioshack is expensive. Try digikey.com or mouser.com first. Even factoring in shipping it'll probally be cheaper.

I just saw your in Canada so shipping may be more but it's still worth a shot.

HYB
12-12-2007, 03:41 PM
Wake up you protothaïpe owner. Pics!

Seconded!

I'm really excited about this one. :D Good luck with the modding.

-_-Nintendo-_-
12-12-2007, 05:41 PM
You had better hope it does not have a 50/60 hrz check otherwise you are in trouble. Otherwise any number of convertors around should be able to play it.

coreycorey2000
12-12-2007, 05:57 PM
It definitely has a 50/60hz check. That is my problem. I attempted to mod a SNES system with two switches. I managed to get the ENG/JPN switch to work fine. But I damaged one leg of the microchip. So I couldn't get 50/60hz to work. I'll have to try to mod another SNES. But I just don't have time right now. I don't even seem to have time to finish playing around with my N64dd Protos. I should figure them out first before I move on to this little project.

ROTS MKII
12-12-2007, 06:51 PM
VK is just the alternative name to the game itself. I think this is the Ritchet game your talking about and not the C4 Super???

The PC game is way better and I forget if there is an alternative ending. Most of the content in this game went into the PSX Castle Dracular.

There is converters to play NTCS on PAL system and vice versa and a all in one converter that can play PAL games.

Just get the console itself and RGB hook ups to save you the time of worrying about if this and that is playable.

DreamTR
12-12-2007, 11:31 PM
ROTS: He has an actual proto of it. It's not what you think it is.

Lux: Why are you bumping year old threads? This is the second one.

ROTS MKII
12-18-2007, 05:49 PM
You can use a backup device and copy it to computer then use SNES Tool and change it from PAL to NTSC and then send it back to the SNES.

This way you can play the prototype without editing the SNES itself.