Suspected/Confirmed GCD Reprints

[backguard]

Not sure if this is the right forum, but I thought it would be a good idea to get a list going of gamequestdirect.com reprints so people don't wind up overpaying for reprints. it sounds like gcd actually reprints rare games, ebays them until the prices start to drop, then they start selling them in stores.



so, if you know gcd has reprinted a game post it here. if you suspect they are, post it here too.



why did i start this thread? i picked up a copy of thousand arms, mint, that looks suspiciously like the rhapsodys and personas that were reprinted. plus - it was made by atlus, who seems to be allowing gcd to reprint everything.



therefore, one suspected game: thousand arms.

[suckerpunch5]

i'm pretty sure Rez (PS2) has been reprinted

[backguard]

rez
rhapsody
persona 2
gitaroo man

are all confirmed


i'm pretty sure all of the shadow hearts games have been reprinted too. yes even the latest one.

http://www.gamequestdirect.com/031719268184.html

[GuilewasNK]

I think Cubivore, RE2 and RE3 on the Gamecube were reprinted as well.

[suckerpunch5]

RE2 and RE3 were most definitely reprinted, but I didn't think it was GCD that did it. I thought (operative word) it was capcom. but I might be wrong . . .

[Jackattack]

Wow so I'm out of the loop. Do you mean that they are reprinting the boxes and instructions or the actual game itself. I guess it would be really hard to do the game, so it must just be the packaging, but I thought I'd ask.

[suckerpunch5]

No, they're reprinting the whole deal: box, instructions and game. Completely indistiguishable from the original games. There is a previous thread with all the nefarious details around here somewhere . . .

[ChronoTriggaFoo]

When I ordered a Persona 2 and Rhapsody from them via phone, I asked them if they were reprints or original releases. They straight up LIED to me and told me they were originals and that they only had so many leftover.

Absolutely deceptive practice. Preconceived and with intent to pull a fast one on everybody.

[Happy_Dude]

ICO is being re-printed. But probably not by GCD

[backguard]

wow - that is very shady.

when i get some spare time i'm going to do some research and start contact the california AG or whoever would handle this. in some ways, what they are doing (passing off reprints as originals) is analogous to what vididots was doing (passing off used games as new).

if cali has some sort of statute like new jersey's, gqd could be in some trouble.

the new jersey statute - Within the jurisdiction of this court, with the purpose to defraud another, utter numerous video game cartridges so that it appeared to have value because of antiquity, rarity, source, or authorship which the video game cartridges did not possess, specifically by buying used video game cartridges, repackaging the cartridges and selling them as new or collectable over eBay, in violation of N.J.S. 2C:21-2.

[norkusa]

Anyone know if the PS1 Breath Of Fire games have been re-printed? Every time I've been into a Gamestop within the past 6 months, I always see complete copies of these games?

Backguard, did your copy of Thousand Arms come with the trading card too? I always figured if GQD re-printed the games like Thousand Arms and Ogre Battle, they wouldn't bother to re-print the extras that originally came with them.

[backguard]

it didn't come with any extras, and i agree w/ you that they wouldn't print the extras. breath of fire 4 was reprinted, but i don't know about breath of fire 3.

[c0ldb33r]

So by reprints you just mean they're pirate copies right?

How do they play in unmodded consoles?

[mydjsobad]

no, they're legits, they basically work out deals with the company that owns the game to make more copies of rare games so they can sell them at the price they came out at new (undercutting ebay sellers, etc.) since they know that clueless collectors and gamers will buy them.

I know that Super Puzzle Fighter for PSX was one they did a while back, but I'm unsure of any terribly recent reprints. Granted I wouldn't be surprised they snatched up the rights to MvC2 for Xbox and PS2 anytime soon.

[Poofta!]

When I ordered a Persona 2 and Rhapsody from them via phone, I asked them if they were reprints or original releases. They straight up LIED to me and told me they were originals and that they only had so many leftover.

Absolutely deceptive practice. Preconceived and with intent to pull a fast one on everybody.


they werent lying, they ARE originals, and they WERE reprinted in limited quantities. they have the game's respective company's permission to set up an additional run of copies of said game. nothing shady about anything here. as far as anyone should be concerned, these are the same games. they have _N_O_ distinguishing features over thier predecessors. companies do this with their games all the time, the only difference here, is that these companies commissioned GCD to do the additional run.

[ChronoTriggaFoo]

When I ordered a Persona 2 and Rhapsody from them via phone, I asked them if they were reprints or original releases. They straight up LIED to me and told me they were originals and that they only had so many leftover.

Absolutely deceptive practice. Preconceived and with intent to pull a fast one on everybody.


they werent lying, they ARE originals, and they WERE reprinted in limited quantities. they have the game's respective company's permission to set up an additional run of copies of said game. nothing shady about anything here. as far as anyone should be concerned, these are the same games. they have _N_O_ distinguishing features over thier predecessors. companies do this with their games all the time, the only difference here, is that these companies commissioned GCD to do the additional run.

Poofta, the point I'm making is that I asked them POINT BLANK if they were reprints or originals. Very easy question to answer. And they told me they were the original printing. Not reprints. And the quantities can't be that limited since they're abundant in all Gamestops and EB games that I go to.

[c0ldb33r]

no, they're legits, they basically work out deals with the company that owns the game to make more copies of rare games so they can sell them at the price they came out at new (undercutting ebay sellers, etc.) since they know that clueless collectors and gamers will buy them.
Word. Thanks :)

[coreycorey2000]

Dukes of Hazard for PS2 was reprinted by GQD I think. Hence the large price drop and the mshowing up at Wal Marts everywhere.

[Richter]

When I ordered a Persona 2 and Rhapsody from them via phone, I asked them if they were reprints or original releases. They straight up LIED to me and told me they were originals and that they only had so many leftover.

Absolutely deceptive practice. Preconceived and with intent to pull a fast one on everybody.


they werent lying, they ARE originals, and they WERE reprinted in limited quantities. they have the game's respective company's permission to set up an additional run of copies of said game. nothing shady about anything here. as far as anyone should be concerned, these are the same games. they have _N_O_ distinguishing features over thier predecessors. companies do this with their games all the time, the only difference here, is that these companies commissioned GCD to do the additional run.

Poofta, the point I'm making is that I asked them POINT BLANK if they were reprints or originals. Very easy question to answer. And they told me they were the original printing. Not reprints. And the quantities can't be that limited since they're abundant in all Gamestops and EB games that I go to.in the end does it matter? the reprints are identical to the originals in every way

[NoahsMyBro]

Suppose Sony comes out with 'Rez 2007' (for discussion sake), and it's released in March 2007. Now, when Sony produces the game, they run off a batch of 100,000 copies.

Turns out, the game is a surprise hit, and a month later Sony runs off another 100,000.

Should copies 100,001 - 200,000 be considered 'reprints'?

That's the exact same thing GQD (GCD?) is doing. The only difference is that some time has passed since the original release, and the original producer has subcontracted out the reprinting duties.

[PapaStu]

Anyone know if the PS1 Breath Of Fire games have been re-printed? Every time I've been into a Gamestop within the past 6 months, I always see complete copies of these games?

Backguard, did your copy of Thousand Arms come with the trading card too? I always figured if GQD re-printed the games like Thousand Arms and Ogre Battle, they wouldn't bother to re-print the extras that originally came with them.

Not by GDQ. As far as I know its all Capcom original pressings, (learned from my former indy shop that had EXCELENT ties to Capcom) they just had a shitton of them in their warehouse left over. I know that my indy shop had bought a few palates of stuff and there was more Breath Of Fire III and IV's than I could shake a stick at in the lot.

[PapaStu]

Suppose Sony comes out with 'Rez 2007' (for discussion sake), and it's released in March 2007. Now, when Sony produces the game, they run off a batch of 100,000 copies.

Turns out, the game is a surprise hit, and a month later Sony runs off another 100,000.

Should copies 100,001 - 200,000 be considered 'reprints'?

That's the exact same thing GQD (GCD?) is doing. The only difference is that some time has passed since the original release, and the original producer has subcontracted out the reprinting duties.

Understandable, however this is being done WELL after a generally accepted time for a release/re-release window. Your talking a month or two in difference, this in some cases has been 6 or 7 years. Not anywhere close to the same thing.

A good example comes to mind for me when one thinks of Disgaea, it had a small run, sold out like that and then was reprinted 2 or 3 months later, by the manufacturer because there was money for them to make. GQD is doing this only with games that are raking in moola on ebay and only THEN do they go out and push for a reprint.

[ChronoTriggaFoo]

Should copies 100,001 - 200,000 be considered 'reprints'?

That's the exact same thing GQD (GCD?) is doing. The only difference is that some time has passed since the original release, and the original producer has subcontracted out the reprinting duties.

If it smells like a duck, looks like a duck, then it is one. You said it yourself. They are for all intents and purposes reprints. And to collectors it is a BIG difference.

I do not collect sealed games. I am all about playing games. But it really does irk me that a company would go so low as to misrepresent their items and spread false information. Otherwise, you guys are right. They are doing a service to everyone who just wants to play these games.

[Griking]

wow - that is very shady.

when i get some spare time i'm going to do some research and start contact the california AG or whoever would handle this. in some ways, what they are doing (passing off reprints as originals) is analogous to what vididots was doing (passing off used games as new).

if cali has some sort of statute like new jersey's, gqd could be in some trouble.

the new jersey statute - Within the jurisdiction of this court, with the purpose to defraud another, utter numerous video game cartridges so that it appeared to have value because of antiquity, rarity, source, or authorship which the video game cartridges did not possess, specifically by buying used video game cartridges, repackaging the cartridges and selling them as new or collectable over eBay, in violation of N.J.S. 2C:21-2.


The difference in this case is that GQD has apparantly aquired the legal license to reprint these games. So legally it's no different than if Atlus reprinted them themselves.

[klausien]

The only individuals hurt by reprints are collectors. Bottom line. Everyone else who is less serious about collecting and/or just wants to play a 99+% legit copy for a reasonable price, benefits. We all are better served by people finally getting to play Rez. I hope they give Valkyrie Profile the same treatment at some point.

Now something like the whole bootleg Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire thing hit a whole lot more people squarely in the wallet. It has become apparent which copies are bootlegs due to ever so slight quality differences in the packaging and such, but a lot of people got screwed before the cat was out of the bag.

I actually bring this up because I thought hard about it and recently decided to purchase one. Why pay an insane amount of cash for a "real" Sapphire when you can get a 98% accurate approximation of the real deal for much less than $100? Yes, it was a budget decision, as I also need to get an Arcade Card and HuCard Converter to play it properly. I also would rather have an actual print with good liner notes and CD screening than a CDR. It looks better in the collection and is still a rarity any way you look at it. Plus, who cares as long as you don't try to rip someone off if you decide to sell it?

I am still going to be super excited to put even a super high quality boot of that one on the shelf!

But I digress. I wish they would re-release Radiant Silvergun for something. That is another one that deserves to be owned and played by more than just the cognoscenti.

[Griking]

The only individuals hurt by reprints are collectors. Bottom line.

Actually collectors will most likely be hurt the least. In fact, in the long run they'll eventually benefit by these reprints as prices go down. They'll be able to get an actual legal copy of a game for less than the previously inflated going price.

Now the people who will be hurt by this the most will be the resellers who purchased multiple copies of these games with the hopes of reselling them down the road for huge profits.