Final Fantasy XIII

[Snapple]

I know it's already been mentioned in the E3 thread, but it's worth its own thread. Of course, if it's anything like FFXII, it could take five years before we might actually be able to play it. :/ Well, hopefully not THAT long.

Anyway, here's what I've gathered about the game so far.

HD trailer for the game can be found here (60.6 MB):
http://www.pixelrage.ro/downloads/Final-Fantasy-XIII-HD-trailer/1115.html
(Rename the file FF.avi to FF.wmv after you download it)

From that trailer, here are some screenshots so that you can see what's going on in the battle a little better:
http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/RC3/FF13%20realtime/

Like, one of the characters is getting ready to do some command called "V strike," and it looks like all commands have an "ATB cost," which I would guess has to do with how much a character can do in a given turn, since all Final Fantasy fans are familiar with ATB.

Someone's already sprung up a website for following every little piece of news for the game here. http://ff-xiii.net/ Looks pretty nice so far.

The main character is a girl named "Lightning."

Anyway, the high-def trailer is really beautiful. Hopefully, the gameplay is as good as the graphics are.


EDIT: Check the thread below for more up-to-date footage and info.

[Poofta!]

making this thread now basically means that in 5 years, when the game comes out, and someone makes a thread about it, a mod will lock that thread and tell us to go discuss it 'at the existing thread' and point here.

[Snapple]

I think I am okay with that.

[PapaStu]

Yes its to early. We've not even gotten FF XII yet.

[Rev. Link]

Yes its to early. We've not even gotten FF XII yet.

Agreed. I honestly thought it was silly of Square-Enix to even talk about FFXIII at this point. Get XII out of the way first.

[Snapple]

I've just been informed by a more computer-savvy person than I that the HD trailer has the wrong extension.

It's named .avi, but it's actually a .wmv file. So some players (like DivX player) might get thrown unless you rename the file from FF.avi to FF.wmv after you download it.

I've gotten it to run very smoothly in both DivX player and Media Player Classic after renaming the file, so there ya go.

Okay, maybe it is early, but isn't the HD trailer purty? Huh? Huh?

[keiblerfan69]

Yes its to early. We've not even gotten FF XII yet.

Exactly. There is no reason to talk about 13 yet.

[Snapple]

Alright, then I won't bump the thread again if nobody's interested.

I don't make that same connection of you have to wait until X game is out to talk about Y game though, for a couple of reasons.

First off, usually there's not any info on the sequel after the next one before the next one comes out. In this case, there is. Of course, it was pointless to talk about Diablo 3 before Diablo 2 came out, but that's because there was nothing on D3 before D2 was released, nor is there usually. This is a unique situation.

Also, I don't treat all Final Fantasies the same. Saying I can't think about FFXIII before FFXII is out, is like tell me I can't think about the next Starcraft game because another Diablo game is going to come out first. Apples and oranges, just made by the same company. I like FF7. I hate FF8. They're not the same to me.

Thirdly, I'm not very excited about FFXII. I know Famitsu gave it a perfect score, but quite frankly, I played the demo and it's lame. I could be totally wrong, and maybe the final product will be awesome, but I'm not very pumped for FFXII right now. I think FFXIII looks more interesting than the one that's right under our nose. The fact that it's on a next-gen platform (PS3) instead of FFXII (PS2) doesn't hurt either.

But, clearly I am in the minority, so I'll shut up. The trailer is still sweet, though.

[zerohero]

IF Square didn't want us to talk about it they wouldn't have released a trailer for it. I think Finaly Fantasy is going down hill, Everyone is hoping this new one will redeem the series but the fact that they already have a trailer for another one tell me that the quality of the series doesn't really matter. Just make some lame story , and a few plot twist, and a different simi male / female lead.

I'm sorry but that trailer just annoyed the heck out of me.

[Snapple]

Well, I think it's a bit premature to declare that the franchise has jumped the shark. They haven't released a true single-player Final Fantasy in English since like 2001 (FFX-2 doesn't count <_< ). Who knows what they've come up with in the last 5 years?

I don't think releasing a trailer in FFXIII means lack of faith in FFXII either. From what I understand, response to the game in Japan has been very positive. The reason Square-Enix is ABLE to show off work on one Final Fantasy before another one is released in North America and Europe is because they have different teams working on each game. Unlike most franchises, where they finish one game before working on the sequel. That doesn't mean they've ever lacked confidence in any of their games. They just want to get a jump start on the next game, because they put a ton of work into each one, and they don't want an eight year gap between every sequel.

[Kid Ice]

making this thread now basically means that in 5 years, when the game comes out, and someone makes a thread about it, a mod will lock that thread and tell us to go discuss it 'at the existing thread' and point here.

That needn't bother you...based on all the trolling you've been doing today I'd be surprised if you were still here in five days.

BTW Snapple it's not too early, it's 8:45 here on the east coast. :)

[Daria]

Besides given how long they've had XII in development I'm not surprised in the least to see a trailer for XIII. What did surprise me however was Versus XIII, I know it's an action game but a sequal in created in conjunction with the original? Course it IS FInal Fantasy, not like there's the remotest possibility that it'll be anything but a blockbuster. Sure Square's cocky, but they have every reason to be.

[Blackjax]

Wait... XII is out?

oh, right. nm.

[tylerwillis]

XII isn't even here yet.

I don't want to talk about XIII. Excuse me. All three XIII titles.

[Daniel Thomas]

Actually, I wanted to start talking about Final Fantasy XIV. No, wait, skip that, let's run up to Final Fantasy XV.

I thought we all agreed that this series peaked out at part 6 or part 7. When Square finally comes with something better than walking up to objects/people and pressing X, lemmie know.

[Moo Cow]

My personal take on Final Fantasy (and this is from the US standpoint):

Final Fantasy: Great game! I loved this one, I was always Fighter, Theif, Black Mage, White Mage

Final Fantasy 7: I loved this game! Square Enix did a great job.

Final Fantasy 8: I watched my friend play it. Looked boring. Then again, all RPGs look boring if you're not playing.

Final Fantasy 9: The only problems I had with this game (besides Quina) was the fucking strategy guide. I bought the guide so I wouldn't have to go online. There's a little thing called common sense. If I wanted to go to a (now-dead) website to look up random info, I have gamefaqs for that.

Final Fantasy 10: It looked cool, but my Playstation broke a little bit after I bought it.

Final Fantasy 10-2: You made a sequal to it, but not to seven (and, for the record, yes, I know 8 is techniqually a sequal, don't get on my nuts about it)? Personally, I saw the previews. It had a lot of singing. This explains why I have no qualms about not playing it. If I wanted to listen to pop music, I'd buy a Brittney Spears album. It does not mix at all with a video game (unless the video game had you taking a chainsaw to her and feeding them to a huge iguana).

I'm tired and decided to post something.

Personally, I see no problems with talking about Final Fantasy 12.

[nik]

My personal take on Final Fantasy (and this is from the US standpoint):

Final Fantasy: Great game! I loved this one, I was always Fighter, Theif, Black Mage, White Mage

Final Fantasy 7: I loved this game! Square Enix did a great job.

Final Fantasy 8: I watched my friend play it. Looked boring. Then again, all RPGs look boring if you're not playing.

Final Fantasy 9: The only problems I had with this game (besides Quina) was the fucking strategy guide. I bought the guide so I wouldn't have to go online. There's a little thing called common sense. If I wanted to go to a (now-dead) website to look up random info, I have gamefaqs for that.

Final Fantasy 10: It looked cool, but my Playstation broke a little bit after I bought it.

Final Fantasy 10-2: You made a sequal to it, but not to seven (and, for the record, yes, I know 8 is techniqually a sequal, don't get on my nuts about it)? Personally, I saw the previews. It had a lot of singing. This explains why I have no qualms about not playing it. If I wanted to listen to pop music, I'd buy a Brittney Spears album. It does not mix at all with a video game (unless the video game had you taking a chainsaw to her and feeding them to a huge iguana).

I'm tired and decided to post something.

Personally, I see no problems with talking about Final Fantasy 12.

He wants to talk about 13 though.. :)

[Snapple]

I knew FF13 would come to the 360. There's no way Squeenix would let their cash cow franchise be limited to the third place system of this generation.

[Snapple]

There's some footage from the FF13 demo on Kotaku. The beginning part is all cutscene (good cutscene though), then there's a boss battle, and then you see them running around the battlefield. And then... I'm not sure, because I haven't watched all the videos yet. There are five of them.

http://kotaku.com/5213994/final-fantasy-xiii-gameplay-footage-saved-for-posterity

Check it out. I'm starting to get excited for the game.

[chicnstu]

There's some footage from the FF13 demo on Kotaku. The beginning part is all cutscene (good cutscene though), then there's a boss battle, and then you see them running around the battlefield. And then... I'm not sure, because I haven't watched all the videos yet. There are five of them.

http://kotaku.com/5213994/final-fantasy-xiii-gameplay-footage-saved-for-posterity

Check it out. I'm starting to get excited for the game.

Yeah, this game looks amazing. I love the music. The battle system looks like a lot of fun, I'm going to miss the gambits though. I thought the gambits in FFXII were one of the greatest things to happen to an RPG, the ability to program your AI party members to act how you want.

There is one thing I'm worried about. I read that when every battle is over, your HP/MP is automatically restored. But that sounds like a good thing doesn't it? I read that the FF team's goal was to have each battle be harder. Remember The Last Remnant and how almost every battle lasted at least 2 minutes? Hopefully I don't mind the length of each battle, or that each battle isn't as long as I'm thinking. The minor battles in the videos look fine.

[heybtbm]

One thing I noticed right away was the seperation between running around the environment and fighting an enemy. It harkens back to older "Dungeon View/Battle View" Final Fantasy's.

FFXII was seemless. You ran up to an enemy and the fight would commence in real time. In FFXIII you seem to run up to an enemy, choose to fight it, then the screen fades and you fight in a new "battle view" (for lack of a better term). This surprised me. I didn't think Square Enix would go that direction anymore after the FFXI and FFXII battle systems.

The environment/location seem to be the exact location you started your fight (as opposed to the older FF's where you would always fight in "the cave background" or the "field background"). Also, the number of enemies in the "battle screen" doesn't correspond to the enemies you see running around. In the demo, the player runs up to one enemy but when the screen changes to the battle screen, there are two enemies. Just like older FF's.

[carlcarlson]

I didn't think Square Enix would go that direction anymore after the FFXI and FFXII battle systems.

Yeah, that surprises me too. In my opinion that's a step backwards because I really enjoyed XII's system. It made grinding a lot less painful.

[kupomogli]

I watched up to about a minute in the fourth video. I didn't watch the entire videos, started to, but then being extremely underwhelming started to skip a couple seconds, watch what happened for a few seconds, skip more.

I don't know about the music being good. I thought the music overall was just bad in comparison, especially coming off of the amazing FF12 soundtrack. Masashi Hamauzu also did the Dirge of Cerberus soundtrack which really wasn't that good over, but even the worst of that soundtrack sounds better than what I've heard on here so far. The battle music is something an RPG needs to have done well and the battle music on FF13 sounds terrible, so even if the the rest of the music is amazing, the battles are what you're going to frequent the most.

Now onto the gameplay. While I quit watching because it just bored the hell out of me watching it, the gameplay looks similar to that of Legend of Legaia. Where on Legend of Legaia and Legaia 2, you'd end up choosing your attacks to do specific arts, etc. Since you can't really see what attacks they're choosing, I'm guessing on this one you choose after your specific attacks if you'd like to cast a spell, etc. So gameplay wise, the game could be a really good game.

Hopefully it's good, because even though I loved FF12's storyline, music, and the world itself, the battle system is what makes me hate the game. Either you have no control over your characters by setting up the Gambit system or control your characters by opening the command menu then switching to the character each time you want to pick a different command(atleast one press to get to the first characters battle menu, or two for the other characters before you can even begin to choose a command.) The license grid was an even crappier version of the already crappy sphere grid.

FF10 was mistake number one, FF11 was mistake number two, the third times a charm failed with FF12 being mistake number three. Is FF13 going to fail just like every other recent main game since the PS2 hit?

[chicnstu]

FF10 was mistake number one, FF11 was mistake number two, the third times a charm failed with FF12 being mistake number three. Is FF13 going to fail just like every other recent main game since the PS2 hit?

Which do you enjoy more? Playing games, or finding the little problems in them? Your whole post sounds like a GameSpot review.

Things come with problems, but Square-Enix is the company that spent years working on FFX, FFXI, FFXII, and FFXIII perfecting and constantly testing the battle systems. If they didn't, people would notice how generic they feel and would eventually quit buying games in the series.

[Gabriel]

Yeah, this game looks amazing. I love the music. The battle system looks like a lot of fun, I'm going to miss the gambits though. I thought the gambits in FFXII were one of the greatest things to happen to an RPG, the ability to program your AI party members to act how you want.

There is one thing I'm worried about. I read that when every battle is over, your HP/MP is automatically restored. But that sounds like a good thing doesn't it? I read that the FF team's goal was to have each battle be harder. Remember The Last Remnant and how almost every battle lasted at least 2 minutes? Hopefully I don't mind the length of each battle, or that each battle isn't as long as I'm thinking. The minor battles in the videos look fine.

Those videos actually make me interested in the game. At least combat will be playable unlike how FF12 was.

As for HPs recovering in full after every battle, maybe they're going for something like the feel of Enchanted Arms. That game had an excellent battle system.

[BHvrd]

From watching the demo gameplay footage the game looks more focused and story driven than 12 was and imo that's a good thing.

12 had too many mini games and fetch this and fetch that that made it seem more like an MMO and less like a traditional FF game.

I think in general Square has been trying to adapt FF to the times and be ahead of the curve and to an extent they have, but I believe game studios like Bioware have really taken the lead with games like Knights of the Old Republic in the larger scope of up to date rpg experiences.

So yeah I think in a large way Square has fallen behind in innovating and no better time to fall back on their stories cause that is what they really shine at imo. I'm looking forward to this as it looks more like a good cinematic FF experience instead of another MMO hybrid concept which imo Square would be better off sticking to imo. I much desire their story driven experiences to their hybrid and MMO concepts. I also am one of the people that thoroughly enjoyed the Spirits Within movie and didn't look at it as a failure at all.

[BHvrd]

New trailer is alot better than what they have shown so far:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-final-fantasy/56839

It almost has a FF IX vibe to it to me for some reason, maybe not, either way it looks like it will be a good rpg and not alot of fetch quests and such. I'm craving some good deep rpg at this point. :p

[Snapple]

I don't know Japanese, but it feels like they're trying to cram in a lot of anime story cliches. Is the girlfriend character dying at the end, there? That's a nice spoiler.

Oh, who am I kidding. I'm going to buy this opening week and love it.

[heybtbm]

North American / European release date: 09 March 2010.

http://kotaku.com/5403678/final-fantasy-xiii-hits-north-america-march-9

I might actually take a day off from work for this (after mocking several friends who did the same this week for MW2).

[unwinddesign]

North American / European release date: 09 March 2010.

http://kotaku.com/5403678/final-fantasy-xiii-hits-north-america-march-9

I might actually take a day off from work for this (after mocking several friends who did the same this week for MW2).

Way sooner than I anticipated. I figured a May or so release. Good news!

And what's this I hear about Tweeting for some DLC/XBL bonus content in FFXIII? I might have to sign up for a Twitter...

[ShinGundam]

Way sooner than I anticipated. I figured a May or so release. Good news!

And what's this I hear about Tweeting for some DLC/XBL bonus content in FFXIII? I might have to sign up for a Twitter...
I think it is wallpaper or free videos

[Malon_Forever]

Couple more weeks until launch. Anyone picking this up the first day?

[Howie6925]

Couple more weeks until launch. Anyone picking this up the first day?

I will be I also pre ordered the SE guide too. I never use the guides I just like to have them.

[Snapple]

I don't usually pick up anything first day, but I'll be getting this eventually.

I know the reviews in the west haven't been as good as the reviews in Japan, but I'll probably like it anyway.

Also, I love how my plan to force people to use my thread by discussing the game like three years before it came out is still working.

[kupomogli]

I'm not picking this up until it hits 19.99. The numbered Final Fantasy games have been a disappointment since FF10. FF12 had a great story, world, and graphics, but the gameplay was poor.

Also, for those interested. When Square Enix released the "real" XBOX360 pictures. There's a noticeable decrease in quality. Not Bayonetta or Ghostbusters PS3 quality, but there are a lot of jaggies and looks like lower color.

If you only own a 360 pick it up for that system, if you own both 360 and PS3 might as well pick up the better version.

[c0ldb33r]

I preordered my copy of FF13 yesterday at EBGames. They have a preorder bonus of a mini strategy guide and some poster.

I'm getting the ps3 version. I think it will be better than the 360 version. I'm not basing that on anything and have nothing to back me up, it's just a feeling that I have :)

[kupomogli]

The 360 version has a lot of jaggies. It's noticeably worse. Not Ghostbusters worse because FF13 looks good no matter the system, but it's noticeable.

Anyways. I'll be getting the 360 version.

[Zoltor]

I have no plans on getting this(It's a Square game, and thus no reason to think it will be anything good, I lost faith in them awhile ago), but there seems to be a handful of aspects in that trailer, which would at very least make it better, then that horrid FF12 game.

First, they seem to have gone back to ATB(so maybe FF13 will atleast count as a RPG).

2nd, while I can't understand Japanes, not only do they seem to be going back to the superior voice acting that they once hit(aka Yuna from FF 10), but for the first time in history, the Japanese have finally got the male voice remotely correct(atleast the good guy male voice acting anyway).

Finally, it sounds like they are recycling music now(however slighly editing it), which is for the most part(as far as it goes for Square anyway) is a good thing. Lets face it, most of the music in Square's later games, are meh at best(which generally there has only been 1 great song in each of their later games, with all the other being meh), so lets hope they recycled more songs, and that's not just the only good song in the game.

[peachstapler]

I'd like to get this for collecting purposes. I've got a nice wall of collector's/special edition PS3 releases, and I was curious if they're planning to release a SPECIAL EDITON/COLLECTOR'S EDITION of FFXIII? It would certainly be nice, I'm not really enthusiastic about buying the $50 Xbox 360 faceplate as a consulation prize... :)

[maxlords]

The numbered Final Fantasy games have been a disappointment since FF7.

Fixed :D

THAT being said...I'm really hoping this one is a very linear, mostly non-open world honest to goodness old-school RPG. That's what I want. I don't need a bunch of BS side quests, just a good story with solid character development.

[skaar]

I love how ancient this thread is.

[.Singe]

I have no plans on getting this(It's a Square game, and thus no reason to think it will be anything good, I lost faith in them awhile ago), but there seems to be a handful of aspects in that trailer, which would at very least make it better, then that horrid FF12 game.

First, they seem to have gone back to ATB(so maybe FF13 will atleast count as a RPG).

2nd, while I can't understand Japanes, not only do they seem to be going back to the superior voice acting that they once hit(aka Yuna from FF 10), but for the first time in history, the Japanese have finally got the male voice remotely correct(atleast the good guy male voice acting anyway).

Finally, it sounds like they are recycling music now(however slighly editing it), which is for the most part(as far as it goes for Square anyway) is a good thing. Lets face it, most of the music in Square's later games, are meh at best(which generally there has only been 1 great song in each of their later games, with all the other being meh), so lets hope they recycled more songs, and that's not just the only good song in the game.

Internet troll is trolling.

As for FF13, the deal was done when I saw that the black character had a little chocobo in his afro, the game must be purchased.

[Snapple]

I love how ancient this thread is.

I made the thread when the game was announced at E3, along with the first unveiled trailer. That was four years ago. It's taken four years from the first footage shown to it being released in North America. And if you want to go back to the beginning of the development cycle, it's probably more like seven years. Pretty ridiculous when you get right down to it.

[Zoltor]

Internet troll is trolling.

As for FF13, the deal was done when I saw that the black character had a little chocobo in his afro, the game must be purchased.

I was trying to give it a copliment, but the problem is, is saying atleast it will be better the FF12, Isn't saying munch, since almost anything that could be made, would be better then FF12.

However, then I decided to tell what aspects of the game were actually pretty good, compared to all the other new school FF games, so it was hardly a troll post, just there's not much to get excited over a FF game that is made by today's Square teams.

[kupomogli]

And if you want to go back to the beginning of the development cycle, it's probably more like seven years. Pretty ridiculous when you get right down to it.

And to somewhat quote Square Enix. "the Final Fantasy 7 remake will not be made because it will take four times the length of time it took to develop FF13." Which is just a load of bullshit.

[Poofta!]

see, now its time to talk about this, snapple ;)

actually we couldve started last month. the lack of posts in this thread really seems to show that no one is all that excited about it. (i mean shit, psp Lunar has like twice as many posts, at least!) i am a huuuge fan of all final fantasies up to and including 7. i gave 12 a huge try and never got into it... i may give it another go. 13 looks just like.. 'meh'. i mean, dont get me wrong, it looks beautiful, but i have thus far experienced nothing that resembles me wanting to play it.

and even if squeenix did make a CE, it wouldve been BS. remember the ff12 CE? almost as much a waste of money on release day as halo3LE was.

honestly though, if i can get ff13 for about 25$, id definitely get it for the ps3 (it seems it will look a LOT better than the 360).

btw, if you guys didnt already know, you can net yourselves a sweet ff13 360 faceplate at best buy. check out the thread at cheapassgamer for details. (i did it a couple days ago and it works).

[Zoltor]

And to somewhat quote Square Enix. "the Final Fantasy 7 remake will not be made because it will take four times the length of time it took to develop FF13." Which is just a load of bullshit.

Actually that is probally true(and I'm surprised they are admitting such), remember good games(you know, ones with well developed battle systems, actual good maps, each song being amazing, a massive amount of sub systems, exc), takes a hell of a lot longer to make, then a game that is Graphics over gameplay(a meh game, just packed with over hyped graphics).

However with that being said, Square would've been better off canceling FF 13, anf FF14, over a remake of FF7, but you know square(all they care about is quantity, so if they can pump out 2 meh games to put it nicely over one high quality game, they'll go with the 2 meh games every time).

There is no logic in their dicisions(as not only would it cost less to make one game, instead of two, a FF7 remake would easily make alot more money then 2 meh games combined, would ever hope to make), but that's how those donkeys think, so I imagine in another 5 years, they're be borderline bankrupt, yet again.

[docgrump]

I have the 360 version preordered on Amazon. Although now that the launch is just a week away I'm a little hesitant about spending the full $60 on XIII. After pouring entirely too much time into Mass Effect 2, I'm afraid a deep Final Fantasy game might be too linear to hold my attention.

Are there any reliable reviews out yet?

[carlcarlson]

the lack of posts in this thread really seems to show that no one is all that excited about it.

I'm looking forward to it, but you're right, I'm just not feeling the excitement for some reason. I think it's because I don't have the time to sit down and play a jrpg anymore. I find myself getting much more excited about more casual games, like Trine, or New SMB Wii, or even Mega Man 10. If I can't sit down and play for 30 minutes and feel like I actually did something then it probably won't hold my attention.


blah blah comma for no reason blah misspelling blah parentheses dumbass

oh my word, shut up.

[ambriglia]

my two cents, FF series has gone downhill after FF9. IMO, FF9 was a great game. went back to the roots of the game, while still adding a fresh new feel. its a shame i didnt really like zidane that much.

but honestly, 10 wasnt that great. never played 11 or 12, and i dont plan on playing 13. the "magic" is just not there for me anymore. maybe i should give it a chance...

[peachstapler]

Anyone know for sure if there's a collector's/special edition of FFXIII available for the PS3?

[kupomogli]

Anyone know for sure if there's a collector's/special edition of FFXIII available for the PS3?

Do you really want to buy FF13 for the PS3 after what Sony did to us? Go out and buy the FF13/360 combo.

[Poofta!]

Anyone know for sure if there's a collector's/special edition of FFXIII available for the PS3?

theres no CE out here in the US at all


Do you really want to buy FF13 for the PS3 after what Sony did to us? Go out and buy the FF13/360 combo.

lol.

[skaar]

Do you really want to buy FF13 for the PS3 after what Sony did to us? Go out and buy the FF13/360 combo.

Dude their service went down for ONE DAY over a software glitch.

You are a sad child. See sig.

*EDIT* Man -> child.

[scooterb23]

kupo, show me on this doll where the Sony man touched you...

[Oobgarm]

Dude their service went down for ONE DAY over a software glitch.

You are a sad child. See sig.

*EDIT* Man -> child.

But according to his title, he's still "Exclusively on PS3".

[kupomogli]

Most of you guys already know I'm kidding. I thought it seemed obvious. I'm blowing it out of proportion on purpose like most people do for extremely stupid reasons.

Here are some examples. FF13 comes out on the 360. The one guy posting on a forum he's going to kill himself. 360 gamers emailing Square Enix after the comparison pictures came up demanding an apology and a patch to make the version as good as the PS3 version and also canceling their preorders. Yakuza 3 fans canceling their preorders over a couple things getting pulled from the game, a game we never would have got in the first place.

*edit*

I forgot the "Exclusively on the PS3." I only put that there when Arkham Asylum came out and had the Joker avatar, then just never changed it.

[hbkprm]

im gonna buy it

[skaar]

Most of you guys already know I'm kidding. I thought it seemed obvious. I'm blowing it out of proportion on purpose like most people do for extremely stupid reasons.

I've never known you to blow anything out of proportion. It seemed out of character so I thought you were serious.

Joke is on me!

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

my two cents, FF series has gone downhill after FF9. IMO, FF9 was a great game. went back to the roots of the game, while still adding a fresh new feel. its a shame i didnt really like zidane that much.

but honestly, 10 wasnt that great. never played 11 or 12, and i dont plan on playing 13. the "magic" is just not there for me anymore. maybe i should give it a chance...

If you have never played the games, then how can you comment about whether or not they have gone downhill. That would be like me commenting about the Grand Theft Auto series when the only one I have played was the original, top down version for the PC, and that was for about 5 minutes.

JY

[Howie6925]

Anyone know for sure if there's a collector's/special edition of FFXIII available for the PS3?

Just the 360 as far as I know which comes with a face plate. I was hoping for a collectors/special edition for the PS3 too.

[PapaStu]

Just the 360 as far as I know which comes with a face plate. I was hoping for a collectors/special edition for the PS3 too.

Where? Not here in America. At the moment, the only way to get the Faceplate is buy it seperately (Amazon lists it at 49 bucks!). All we're getting is 'regular' editions of the game for PS3/360.

[exit]

Most of you guys already know I'm kidding. I thought it seemed obvious. I'm blowing it out of proportion on purpose like most people do for extremely stupid reasons.

You were only kidding? And here I am thinking that you're just beating a dead horse.

Silly me.

[mezrabad]

RRoD 4 Life!

You are irony wrapped in a sarcastic, enigmatic conundrum!

Tou totally had me thinking you hated PS3 now and made me laugh out load in an honest to goodness not-laughing-at-you-but-laughing-with-you-and-at-myself-way when I realized I'd been had. :D

More on topic, not only are we not getting a CE, but the only swag for pre-ording is a mini-strategy guide?

I want the faceplate, but already have a 360 :(

[BHvrd]

Gametrailers review is up and honestly it's a very VERY informative, honest and thorough review, probably the best they have done reviewing a game ever. They cover all the bases and help to decide if it's for you or not.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-final-fantasy/62719

[maxlords]

Where? Not here in America. At the moment, the only way to get the Faceplate is buy it seperately (Amazon lists it at 49 bucks!). All we're getting is 'regular' editions of the game for PS3/360.

My EB got 3 or 4 of em to give away.

[Howie6925]

Where? Not here in America. At the moment, the only way to get the Faceplate is buy it seperately (Amazon lists it at 49 bucks!). All we're getting is 'regular' editions of the game for PS3/360.

When I preordered it at eb games I asked him for the ps3 collectors version first, he said that it was only for the 360 which comes with the faceplate .

[Poofta!]

Where? Not here in America. At the moment, the only way to get the Faceplate is buy it seperately (Amazon lists it at 49 bucks!). All we're getting is 'regular' editions of the game for PS3/360.

you can get it for $10 using a best buy kiosk in store. light speed.

[c0ldb33r]

Shit, there are no Best Buys anywhere near me. If someone was feeling geneois I would happily pay them for one!

[Zoltor]

Gametrailers review is up and honestly it's a very VERY informative, honest and thorough review, probably the best they have done reviewing a game ever. They cover all the bases and help to decide if it's for you or not.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-final-fantasy/62719

Evidently I gave it a hell of alot more praise then it deserved last time, what a pile of shit FF13 is.

It's so linear, it gives new meaning to the term(there might as well be no walking involved at all, is that the next step, and just have a battle arena for farming). Effectively no towns, make it even more pointless to have walking in the game(omg the developers sure got lazy with this game, why are there any maps at all in the game, It's pointless).

You being only able to control the main char, will always be an epically failed design. If you are only gonna allow people to contol one char, don't have a party to begin with, make it a single char RPG.

On top of this, they take being lazy to a whole new lv, by making the auto battle feature the default command. I bet Square's next game will have an auto move feature as well, that's always in effect, then the game will, really beable to play its self(atleast that would spare someone from having to play the shitty Square games that suck ass, as it will play its self, but at that point, why did you buy it in the first place).

Except for the one song in the older video, the music in general seems to be very meh, the Voice acting/script despite seeming good in the older video, was nothing but first impressions, the new video shows more then enough to prove that's gonna be complete crap as well.

[badinsults]

OK, what do people other than Zoltor think of the game (I suspect he is just trolling and hasn't actually played the game)?

[heybtbm]

Evidently I gave it a hell of alot more praise then it deserved last time, what a pile of shit FF13 is.

This isn't Gamefaqs. You only get to talk shit once you've played it.

[Zoltor]

This isn't Gamefaqs. You only get to talk shit once you've played it.



Sorry, I don't like playing games, that play its self.

Also I think Square figured how to make a game finally not count as a RPG, even though it has a lv system.

No exploration, no actual functionality of towns, you're basically encouraged to use Auto Battle 100% of the time(why the hell would they make Auto Battle default otherwise), the music is clearly meh whatever(what ever happened to actual adventure/journey music, well I guess it wouldn't fit in this game anyway, there is no exploration to warrant awesome music).

The scripting is pretty bad from what we've seen, and the reviewer even states that It's olike that generally in this game(not just the few scenes he showed us).

Seeing that Square has been known to pay these review sites off, to get good reviews, I find his review very ceditable, and if you read between the lines, he clearly states that the only actual good aspect, is the graphics in battle.

PS. There is something called bad design, you can easily tell a game is gonna be shitty by the systems, and such in the game(and It's always gonna be worse then estimated). No towns, having access to shops at every save point(I'm sure this game is gonna be challenging, not), only being able to control one char in a party based RPG(can it even be called a RPG). We've already heard the voice acting/music to know it goes from completely crap to meh whatever. No exploration, in fact It's so bad, It's pointless to even have maps(you might as well play a text mud), exc, exc, exc.

[.Singe]

Sorry, I don't like playing games, that play its self.

Also I think Square figured how to make a game finally not count as a RPG, even though it has a lv system.

No exploration, no actual functionality of towns, you're basically encouraged to use Auto Battle 100% of the time(why the hell would they make Auto Battle default otherwise), the music is clearly meh whatever(what ever happened to actual adventure/journey music, well I guess it wouldn't fit in this game anyway, there is no exploration to warrant awesome music).

The scripting is pretty bad from what we've seen, and the reviewer even states that It's olike that generally in this game(not just the few scenes he showed us).

Seeing that Square has been known to pay these review sites off, to get good reviews, I find his review very ceditable, and if you read between the lines, he clearly states that the only actual good aspect, is the graphics in battle.

PS. There is something called bad design, you can easily tell a game is gonna be shitty by the systems in the game(and It's always gonna be worse then estimated). No towns, having access to shops at every save point(I'm sure this game is gonna be challenging, not), only being able to control one char in a party based RPG(can it even be called a RPG). We've already heard the voice acting/music to know it goes from completely crap to meh whatever. No exploration, in fact It's so bad, It's pointless to even have maps(you might as well play a text mud), exc, exc, exc.

Obviously you don't know what RPG stands for. Role Playing Game. You're playing the role of the MAIN character. Sure people prefer the standard line up and attack until someone dies, but heaven forbid anyone do anything with innovation.

English dubs have ALWAYS(or at least typically) sucked ass in ANY JRPG game, boohoo. And if you blame the music for making it a shitty game, then you sir have the most pointless standards in video games. Did Nobuo Umetsu make the music? If so, then it's probably going to fantastic in one way or another like usual.

I agree with Heybtbm. Play the game first, don't make shitty excuses. Rent it, borrow it, or keep your horribly biased opinions to yourself.

[Zoltor]

Obviously you don't know what RPG stands for. Role Playing Game. You're playing the role of the MAIN character. Sure people prefer the standard line up and attack until someone dies, but heaven forbid anyone do anything with innovation.

English dubs have ALWAYS(or at least typically) sucked ass in ANY JRPG game, boohoo. And if you blame the music for making it a shitty game, then you sir have the most pointless standards in video games. Did Nobuo Umetsu make the music? If so, then it's probably going to fantastic in one way or another like usual.

I agree with Heybtbm. Play the game first, don't make shitty excuses. Rent it, borrow it, or keep your horribly biased opinions to yourself.

Uh, and how are you playing a role in this game, since clearly Square wants you to be always on auto battle, some role you are playing then. Also what role, you can't even explore lol, and what world in the multi verse, would ever be nothing more then a line? You need to stretch the meaning of RPG a lot to fit FF 13 in it.