rare PS2 games worth money later down the road

[mailman187666]

I'm trying to pick up rare PS2 games that have the possibility of becoming the next Valkyrie Profile or Suikoden 2 later on after games for the system are starting not to be published. I've come up with a few titles i think will be worth a few buck later on down the road

Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistance LE
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002
Grandia Xtreme
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
Capcom Vs. SNK 2
Streetfighter Anniversary collection
RPG Maker 3
REZ
Jurrasic Park: Operation Genesis
Shadow Hearts 1+2
Growlancer Generation box set
Fire Fighter F.D. 18
Silent Hill series
fatal frame series
Ico
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2

So if anybody agrees or has games to list that I missed or maybe has some reasoning as to why some of the games i listed may not be worth nuthin' later in life, respond to this. I want speculation on what games i should grab and hold onto before they become impossible to find!

[zerohero]

You forgot
Zone of the Enders 2nd runner

[smork]

There's already several PS2 rarity threads....

The problem with trying to estimate rarity is the possibility of reprints. REZ had a reprint, Disgaea's had several. I've seen everything on your list at a major gamestore at one point or another, so I don't think anything is truly rare on the PS2.

Here's the vicious cycle of game rarity and why it's difficult to speculate: Game gets a low print run. Let's say it comes from Atlus, or it's an RPG, or some similar case. People start to notice, "Hey, this game is hard to find, and people want it!" Price goes up. Manufacturer sees high priced on the secondary market, fires off another print run. Repeat cycle.

The only time you can stand a good chance of having a rare title stay rare is a) pulled off the market for some reason b) publisher goes out of business. RPGs tend to keep pretty high values, as well.

If I had to speculate what would have a high price 10 years from now, I'd put some money on:

1) The megaten games (SMT: Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1&2), just because they came in limited editions (for Nocturne and 1, at least), they're RPGs, and they have a rabid yet smallish fan base.

2) Marvel vs. Capcom 2 -- won't see a reprint b/c licensing issues.

3) Growlanser Generations. It's a really nice box, but it's high priced. I think it won't be worth much in the near term, but in the long term, could be quite a bit, especially since not many people seem to be buying it. Plus, Working Designs is kaput.

[ProgrammingAce]

like i said before with a minimum print run of roughly 65,000 units there isn't such thing as a "RARE" ps2 game. Then again, valkyrie profile isn't rare either....


That being said, i think Rez is a good choice, because no matter how many copies there are, it's always going to be in demand. Disgaea for the same reason.

Then there are some odd ball ones that would be unlikely to get reprinted:

Magic Pengel
Disaster Report
Lifeline
R.A.D


Then there's konami, who is highly against running second print runs (at lesast for everything except the MGS series).

Firefighter FD 18
Gradius 3&4
Gradius V
Zone of the Enders 1&2

Then, of course, working designs. Even if whoever owns the rights to the game decides they want to print more, it is unlikely that sony would let them.

Things like the sprint car game are unlikely to hold value. Regardless of the rarity, the game isn't very good and demand won't keep up for 10 years...

[sabre2922]

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[sabre2922]

:fist:

[Bronty-2]

this is kind of amusing - I own like 6 or 7 ps 2 games total all just bought new because I liked the titles and two of them are on this thread - gradius 5 and zone OTE2.

For what it's worth I don't think any ps2 game is the rare, although the demand is certainly there. Still, I bet there's more of these being put away and actively speculated on than at any time in the past.

I'm sure there's at least a few store owners putting aside unopened cases.

[Bronty-2]

this is kind of amusing - I own like 6 or 7 ps 2 games total all just bought new because I liked the titles and two of them are on this thread - gradius 5 and zone OTE2.

For what it's worth I don't think any ps2 game is the rare, although the demand is certainly there. Still, I bet there's more of these being put away and actively speculated on than at any time in the past.

I'm sure there's at least a few store owners putting aside unopened cases.

[Bronty-2]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

[Bronty-2]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

[kentuckyfried]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

[kentuckyfried]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

[aaronpetrosky]

Well, I think it would be hard for now for any Ps2 game to be rare because the system is still current. In another 3-4 years the games will be off the store shelves and I think they will start becoming rare then.

[aaronpetrosky]

Well, I think it would be hard for now for any Ps2 game to be rare because the system is still current. In another 3-4 years the games will be off the store shelves and I think they will start becoming rare then.

[BocoDragon]

10 dollar ICO's have flooded grocery store bargan bins....

[BocoDragon]

10 dollar ICO's have flooded grocery store bargan bins....

[sabre2922]

10 dollar ICO's have flooded grocery store bargan bins....
:duh:

[sabre2922]

10 dollar ICO's have flooded grocery store bargan bins....
:duh:

[ProgrammingAce]

10 dollar ICO's have flooded grocery store bargan bins....

I actually agree with that... this may have gotten a reprint along with shadow of the colossus, but i'm not entirely sure.

[ProgrammingAce]

10 dollar ICO's have flooded grocery store bargan bins....

I actually agree with that... this may have gotten a reprint along with shadow of the colossus, but i'm not entirely sure.

[Bronty-2]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

[Bronty-2]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

[kentuckyfried]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

True, I was mostly thinking of classic games for this.

[kentuckyfried]

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

This is the thing that always had me thinking.
Let's say that a game has X number of games printed, then over the years games get destroyed for whatever reason, thrown out, made into art projects, etc. Thus diminishing the number of copies of a game in existance.
These numbers are incalculable, but they increase a games rarity.

Back on topic: along with Disgaea, I nominate any other Nippon Ichi-made game for PS2 games that will hold their value well (La Pucelle, Atelier Iris, Phantom Brave, etc.)

# of games actually destroyed would be pretty small IMO. I doubt the attrition rate is 10% on modern systems. It's not a substantial #. People pay good money for games, they aren't going to throw them away for no reason.

Manuals and boxes might be thrown out... but not the games themselves.

True, I was mostly thinking of classic games for this.

[sabre2922]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! :villagepeople: *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

[sabre2922]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! :villagepeople: *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

[Oobgarm]

I'll go over your list. I don't consider any of these titles RARE yet, but here we go:

Possible money makers:

World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002 (for Collectors only, no one in their right mind would pay more than $20 just to play it)
Growlanser Generation Deluxe
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence LE

Uncommons:

Fire Fighter F.D. 18
RPG Maker 3
Fatal Frame 1-3
Grandia Xtreme
Jurrasic Park: Operation Genesis

Not a chance they'll be worth much:

Capcom Vs. SNK 2
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection
Shadow Hearts 1+2
Silent Hill 1-4

Games that have 'Suikoden Syndrome', meaning they aren't rare but are always in demand:

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
REZ
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2

[Oobgarm]

I'll go over your list. I don't consider any of these titles RARE yet, but here we go:

Possible money makers:

World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002 (for Collectors only, no one in their right mind would pay more than $20 just to play it)
Growlanser Generation Deluxe
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence LE

Uncommons:

Fire Fighter F.D. 18
RPG Maker 3
Fatal Frame 1-3
Grandia Xtreme
Jurrasic Park: Operation Genesis

Not a chance they'll be worth much:

Capcom Vs. SNK 2
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection
Shadow Hearts 1+2
Silent Hill 1-4

Games that have 'Suikoden Syndrome', meaning they aren't rare but are always in demand:

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
REZ
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2

[gepeto]

I the age of the cd\dvd I think that the quote rare game is a thing of the past. If something becomes too rare companies will find a way to reprint.

Alot of the rare hype comes from the cartridege era nobody was reprinting carts and during the psx early years no one was reprinting. It sucks because it removes that part of collecting for some people. So I look at nothing in this era as being rare because it is just a pressing away.

[gepeto]

I the age of the cd\dvd I think that the quote rare game is a thing of the past. If something becomes too rare companies will find a way to reprint.

Alot of the rare hype comes from the cartridege era nobody was reprinting carts and during the psx early years no one was reprinting. It sucks because it removes that part of collecting for some people. So I look at nothing in this era as being rare because it is just a pressing away.

[Bronty-2]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! :villagepeople: *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

God, you're an idiot. I mean you really are a world class tool to come back with a post like that. So I collect nintendo stuff, so what? I didn't disparage collecting sony stuff in the least, just stated the FACTS that they are produced in high quantities (just the same as nintendo stuff largely was) and that rarity and value are not interchangeable terms. For what it's worth I can see sony stuff going up in VALUE in the future. Not in RARITY because no one's throwing the stuff away. Not hard concepts to understand unless your IQ is below 50.

As for 'nintendo elite that remain the defacto power of this board'... you have to seriously be kidding me? That is the most immature thing I've read in quite some time.

[Bronty-2]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! :villagepeople: *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

God, you're an idiot. I mean you really are a world class tool to come back with a post like that. So I collect nintendo stuff, so what? I didn't disparage collecting sony stuff in the least, just stated the FACTS that they are produced in high quantities (just the same as nintendo stuff largely was) and that rarity and value are not interchangeable terms. For what it's worth I can see sony stuff going up in VALUE in the future. Not in RARITY because no one's throwing the stuff away. Not hard concepts to understand unless your IQ is below 50.

As for 'nintendo elite that remain the defacto power of this board'... you have to seriously be kidding me? That is the most immature thing I've read in quite some time.

[mailman187666]

yeah maybe these games won't be so much "rare" but give it another 5 years and some of these games, I believe, will be like finding a Valrkyrie Profile in the used PS1 section at your local EB. The games listed in this thread I think are ones that should be held onto by collectors because I believe they will retain thier value well. I know we can all speculate on what the future value will be for these games but I think the ones listed on my first thread will be the ones we should all hold onto for the future. I know as of now, every time i go into a game store, I'll do a quick check for Disgaea or Marvel Vs. capcom 2 and almost never see them. To find them complete is even harder to accomplish. So I'm just saying these games are probably the ones us, as collectors, should hold onto. Then 5-10 years from now we may go do a search on e-bay and find that our PS2 collections are worth something. Digital devil saga and SMT: Nocturn should all definately be bought by everyone because not only is it fun to play but they aren't easy to come by just yet, and i can see there is a following/demand for those games.

[mailman187666]

yeah maybe these games won't be so much "rare" but give it another 5 years and some of these games, I believe, will be like finding a Valrkyrie Profile in the used PS1 section at your local EB. The games listed in this thread I think are ones that should be held onto by collectors because I believe they will retain thier value well. I know we can all speculate on what the future value will be for these games but I think the ones listed on my first thread will be the ones we should all hold onto for the future. I know as of now, every time i go into a game store, I'll do a quick check for Disgaea or Marvel Vs. capcom 2 and almost never see them. To find them complete is even harder to accomplish. So I'm just saying these games are probably the ones us, as collectors, should hold onto. Then 5-10 years from now we may go do a search on e-bay and find that our PS2 collections are worth something. Digital devil saga and SMT: Nocturn should all definately be bought by everyone because not only is it fun to play but they aren't easy to come by just yet, and i can see there is a following/demand for those games.

[smork]

I dunno, Disgaea used to be really hard to find, but last Christmas (last time I was in the states and shopping) I saw, no shit, at least 50 new, sealed versions. Every Fry's I went to had a bunch, and I saw several at GS.

I actually bought 2 and gave them out as Christmas gifts :)

Just to pile on the lists a bit -- all the horse sims will be hard to find, G1 Jockey 3 especially. Don't know if they have any real value outside the hardcore horse sim set, but I can guarantee 10 years down the road you'll have a bitch of a time finding them.

[smork]

I dunno, Disgaea used to be really hard to find, but last Christmas (last time I was in the states and shopping) I saw, no shit, at least 50 new, sealed versions. Every Fry's I went to had a bunch, and I saw several at GS.

I actually bought 2 and gave them out as Christmas gifts :)

Just to pile on the lists a bit -- all the horse sims will be hard to find, G1 Jockey 3 especially. Don't know if they have any real value outside the hardcore horse sim set, but I can guarantee 10 years down the road you'll have a bitch of a time finding them.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Does Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance count as well?

[MegaDrive20XX]

Does Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance count as well?

[googlefest1]

what about Deus Ex

ive been to many shops in CT NY and NJ and none of the shops ive been to had this game

[googlefest1]

what about Deus Ex

ive been to many shops in CT NY and NJ and none of the shops ive been to had this game

[Daria]

I'm thinking maybe something like "Wizardry". Unlikely to ever get a reprint, I hardly ever see it around, and it's actually a very good RPG. No one ever really talks about it either.

Games like "Valkyrie Profile" and "Suikoden 2" weren't all that popular upon release. It wasn't really until after the death of the PSOne that gamers sarted to seek them out.

Disgaea on the other hand is probably more akin to the "Final Fantasy III"s and "Chrono Trigger"s of the world, or in PSOne standards the "FInal Fantasy VII"s. Smash hits, very popular and in constant demand.

This has very little to do with real rarity though. As evidence by paragraph 3, the game doesn't have to have a low print run to become expensive.

[Daria]

I'm thinking maybe something like "Wizardry". Unlikely to ever get a reprint, I hardly ever see it around, and it's actually a very good RPG. No one ever really talks about it either.

Games like "Valkyrie Profile" and "Suikoden 2" weren't all that popular upon release. It wasn't really until after the death of the PSOne that gamers sarted to seek them out.

Disgaea on the other hand is probably more akin to the "Final Fantasy III"s and "Chrono Trigger"s of the world, or in PSOne standards the "FInal Fantasy VII"s. Smash hits, very popular and in constant demand.

This has very little to do with real rarity though. As evidence by paragraph 3, the game doesn't have to have a low print run to become expensive.

[mailman187666]

yeah I think Metal Gear solid 2: substance may be up there. Good call on the horse racing sims too. Another one i thought of was "The Bible Game". I don't know many people who would be running out to pick that one up, and as we look at past religeous games, they've all become rare after the system has died out. There isn't much of a demand for games like that so I'm sure it will never be re-printed. The only thing about that one is the demand. Even if it is very rare, I don't think the value of it will be all that much just because most people aren't in the market for bible related games. So if anyone were to pick one game that they think will retain its value the best (granted that it is complete) which one do you think it would be?

I'd put my money on the Growlancer box set with all of the goodies that come inside of it (watch, chain ect.)

[mailman187666]

yeah I think Metal Gear solid 2: substance may be up there. Good call on the horse racing sims too. Another one i thought of was "The Bible Game". I don't know many people who would be running out to pick that one up, and as we look at past religeous games, they've all become rare after the system has died out. There isn't much of a demand for games like that so I'm sure it will never be re-printed. The only thing about that one is the demand. Even if it is very rare, I don't think the value of it will be all that much just because most people aren't in the market for bible related games. So if anyone were to pick one game that they think will retain its value the best (granted that it is complete) which one do you think it would be?

I'd put my money on the Growlancer box set with all of the goodies that come inside of it (watch, chain ect.)

[Vectorman0]

The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2

I bet most people who have this don't want to give it up, and on top of that it probably got a really small print run. It's not even a typical "game" so maybe it didn't have a regular required number of produced copies.

Soccer America

How many of you have ever seen this? It came out in mid-2001. I have been keeping my eyes peeled for this, and have never seen it. I don't think this will be valuable, but I bet most will need to get one online for their collections.

[Vectorman0]

The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2

I bet most people who have this don't want to give it up, and on top of that it probably got a really small print run. It's not even a typical "game" so maybe it didn't have a regular required number of produced copies.

Soccer America

How many of you have ever seen this? It came out in mid-2001. I have been keeping my eyes peeled for this, and have never seen it. I don't think this will be valuable, but I bet most will need to get one online for their collections.

[norkusa]

Just to pile on the lists a bit -- all the horse sims will be hard to find, G1 Jockey 3 especially. Don't know if they have any real value outside the hardcore horse sim set, but I can guarantee 10 years down the road you'll have a bitch of a time finding them.

I've been saying for a long time that the Gallop Racer and G1 Jockey games are some of the hardest games to find for the PS2. Gallop Racer 2001 I've only seen twice. 2003 & 2004 are a bit easier to find but not by much though. I'm sure 2006 will be equally rare but since it was just released a few weeks ago, you'll have to give it some more time to tell.

When a PS2 rarity list does come out, I expect G1 Jockey 3 to receive no less than a R7 rarity. In my 3 years of actively collecting PS2 games, I've only seen it once and that was the copy I bought. And I hit up A TON of used game stores, pawn shops, and flea markets too. Checking the auctions on Ebay show only 3 NTSC copies listed in the past month and only 1 copy currently up for sale.

[norkusa]

Just to pile on the lists a bit -- all the horse sims will be hard to find, G1 Jockey 3 especially. Don't know if they have any real value outside the hardcore horse sim set, but I can guarantee 10 years down the road you'll have a bitch of a time finding them.

I've been saying for a long time that the Gallop Racer and G1 Jockey games are some of the hardest games to find for the PS2. Gallop Racer 2001 I've only seen twice. 2003 & 2004 are a bit easier to find but not by much though. I'm sure 2006 will be equally rare but since it was just released a few weeks ago, you'll have to give it some more time to tell.

When a PS2 rarity list does come out, I expect G1 Jockey 3 to receive no less than a R7 rarity. In my 3 years of actively collecting PS2 games, I've only seen it once and that was the copy I bought. And I hit up A TON of used game stores, pawn shops, and flea markets too. Checking the auctions on Ebay show only 3 NTSC copies listed in the past month and only 1 copy currently up for sale.

[norkusa]

double post

[norkusa]

double post

[sabre2922]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! :villagepeople: *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

God, you're an idiot. I mean you really are a world class tool to come back with a post like that. So I collect nintendo stuff, so what? I didn't disparage collecting sony stuff in the least, just stated the FACTS that they are produced in high quantities (just the same as nintendo stuff largely was) and that rarity and value are not interchangeable terms. For what it's worth I can see sony stuff going up in VALUE in the future. Not in RARITY because no one's throwing the stuff away. Not hard concepts to understand unless your IQ is below 50.

As for 'nintendo elite that remain the defacto power of this board'... you have to seriously be kidding me? That is the most immature thing I've read in quite some time.

WHY thank u thank ya very much ;)

Dude it was more of a joke more than any type of real flaming.

Just ask Ghouls n Ghosts if I was serious you would definitely know it.

[sabre2922]

R-Type Final - Ive seen TWO copies of this game complete within the last year.

Gradius 5- maybe not "rare" yet but definitely not large amounts of copies floating around.

r type - no way, this game is everywhere, at least in my neck of the woods. It was in a 2pack bundle at my local costco... nothing bundled at a mass retailer like costco can be too rare.

gradius 5- sorry but this is a pet peeve. I don't understand why people use rarity and value interchangeably. Rarity is what it is. Price increases over time. Rarity doesn't.

WE are FAMILY! ........We are the NINTENDOPHILES! :villagepeople: *

*Remember boys and girls that anything that is NOT made/produced or endorsed by NINTENDO or at leat a 20 year old cartridge-prefferably BY NINTENDO- is NOT collectible and should not be collected or enjoyed in any form by anyone unless WE say so.

Also: Please refrain from posting any topics on this forum UNLESS it is NINTENDO related (unless it is to bash Sony or thier systems etc) otherwise we can not be held responsible by the actions of the Nintendo ELITE that remain the defacto power of this board.

God, you're an idiot. I mean you really are a world class tool to come back with a post like that. So I collect nintendo stuff, so what? I didn't disparage collecting sony stuff in the least, just stated the FACTS that they are produced in high quantities (just the same as nintendo stuff largely was) and that rarity and value are not interchangeable terms. For what it's worth I can see sony stuff going up in VALUE in the future. Not in RARITY because no one's throwing the stuff away. Not hard concepts to understand unless your IQ is below 50.

As for 'nintendo elite that remain the defacto power of this board'... you have to seriously be kidding me? That is the most immature thing I've read in quite some time.

WHY thank u thank ya very much ;)

Dude it was more of a joke more than any type of real flaming.

Just ask Ghouls n Ghosts if I was serious you would definitely know it.

[Bronty-2]

Well I apologize then :) but the joke could use a little work :P

cheers

[Bronty-2]

Well I apologize then :) but the joke could use a little work :P

cheers

[zerohero]

The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2

I bet most people who have this don't want to give it up, and on top of that it probably got a really small print run. It's not even a typical "game" so maybe it didn't have a regular required number of produced copies.

Soccer America

How many of you have ever seen this? It came out in mid-2001. I have been keeping my eyes peeled for this, and have never seen it. I don't think this will be valuable, but I bet most will need to get one online for their collections.

Yea it would take me alot to part with my doc of MGS2.

[zerohero]

The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2

I bet most people who have this don't want to give it up, and on top of that it probably got a really small print run. It's not even a typical "game" so maybe it didn't have a regular required number of produced copies.

Soccer America

How many of you have ever seen this? It came out in mid-2001. I have been keeping my eyes peeled for this, and have never seen it. I don't think this will be valuable, but I bet most will need to get one online for their collections.

Yea it would take me alot to part with my doc of MGS2.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Well I apologize then :) but the joke could use a little work :P

cheers

yup it was a joke :) I had to re-read it twice to make sure LOL

[MegaDrive20XX]

Well I apologize then :) but the joke could use a little work :P

cheers

yup it was a joke :) I had to re-read it twice to make sure LOL

[mailman187666]

i sold a metal gear sld 3: Subsistence LE for over 100 bucks on ebay. I wonder if its going to retain that value over time or if its eventually go down once it loses its heat on the market. I'm thinkin' on it staying where it is or possibly going up. Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 is one of the few i think that'll hold up on its value other than the great PS2 RPGs that are available.

[mailman187666]

i sold a metal gear sld 3: Subsistence LE for over 100 bucks on ebay. I wonder if its going to retain that value over time or if its eventually go down once it loses its heat on the market. I'm thinkin' on it staying where it is or possibly going up. Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 is one of the few i think that'll hold up on its value other than the great PS2 RPGs that are available.

[Oobgarm]

The Document of Metal Gear Solid 2

I bet most people who have this don't want to give it up, and on top of that it probably got a really small print run. It's not even a typical "game" so maybe it didn't have a regular required number of produced copies.

Soccer America

How many of you have ever seen this? It came out in mid-2001. I have been keeping my eyes peeled for this, and have never seen it. I don't think this will be valuable, but I bet most will need to get one online for their collections.

Agreed on both counts. I couldn't tell you how long the store I worked at had a new copy of Soccer America. It was there for a couple years at least. After it left, I haven't seen it since.

[videogameoverdose]

Have you considered lousy games don't sell and get returned to the distributers and if not blown out at low prices are destroyed, making them (a few years down the road) rare (?)

Maybe not highly valued in $$, but for those who may want to collect rare games, a hard nut to find, causing an inflated price.

I recall some one on this site mentioning a few years back, if everybody destroyed the same common game, ie. Sonic 2 or Maro/Duck Hunt, that would make it rare, causing the price to increase and we could all cash in. :roll:

[lordnikon]

Everyone needs to realise that, we are on the verge of a generation shift. This means that in 6-8 months you will see the market FLOODED with current gen games, and prices will plummet.

This is an exciting time for those that play their games, and even collectors, because sheep everywhere will be trading in their current gen stuff to go next gen. This means the market will get flooded, and we can get games for a fraction of the cost for a good 2 years + before the prices start climbing again.

If you can't find Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance now, just wait until this winter and you will start seeing copies cropping up all over the place.

Get your money ready. The time is coming soon.

[Kevin Listwan]

I nominate Stretch Panic and Mister Mosquito as future rares, yes, no?

[Austin]

I nominate Stretch Panic and Mister Mosquito as future rares, yes, no?

Mister Mosquito is a little uncommon, but I see Stretch Panic all over the place, all the time. I don't think either though are really possibilities of being too rare in the future.

[mailman187666]

I actually have been finding a few rare titles for PS2 here and there a little more easily lately. I saw a copy of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 at a gamestop over the weekend but they wanted $60 used for it. I can see them being flooded into the market for the next couple years and being lowered in value.

[Mr.FoodMonster]

I'm pretty sure it was reprinted, but not positive. The cool thing is that a lot of these 'future rare' games I already have, but just because they are awesome games. My collection will be worth some, but it's not going anywhere.

[mailman187666]

yeah, I'm hanging on to my PS2 rare games until I the day that i go bankrupt and get into the negetive numbers. Until that day, I'm hanging on to all of them

[ismokeblunts]

remember that ps2 is a disc based console, who hasn't fucked up a cd or two in their day? a ps2 dvd isn't quite as hardy as say, a snes cartrdige is. i'd take into account any game that seems like it has a good chance of getting destroyed. games aimed at younger children might be a good bet for rarity 10 years down the road. rpg's are still and always will be a solid bet, as with any popular titles and their original runs. i can only see numbers of games dropping over the years, and much more quickly than cartridge numbers. i don't think it's going to be that easy to predict this generation's future collectability. b

[sabre2922]

remember that ps2 is a disc based console, who hasn't fucked up a cd or two in their day? a ps2 dvd isn't quite as hardy as say, a snes cartrdige is. i'd take into account any game that seems like it has a good chance of getting destroyed. games aimed at younger children might be a good bet for rarity 10 years down the road. rpg's are still and always will be a solid bet, as with any popular titles and their original runs. i can only see numbers of games dropping over the years, and much more quickly than cartridge numbers. i don't think it's going to be that easy to predict this generation's future collectability. b

OK

Here we go again about the whole Cartridge vs. CD/DVD thing.

If what you just stated is true then why are the old top tier N64 games that were originally released at around $60-$80 a pop floating at the $10.00 range? and not closer to Neo-Geo based values?

Look man these games and many other CD/DVD based PS2,Xbox 1 and Gamecube games will be very collectible in the future just the same as many Saturn/Dreamcast and even rare PSone games are very collectable, sought after and valuable right now.

The fact is that as long as a cd/DVD/HD DVD/mini DVD/Blue-Ray is stored properly and kept clean they will outlast cartridges by oh - A FEW HUNDRED YEARS OR MORE.

Look at it this way: Cartridges= METAL PARTS, pin connectors etc. and metal parts= RUST its a fact of nature.

and dont even bother with the whole CD rot thing, many of us here are well aware that for the most part that all goes back to first generation CDs and cheaply made CDs and DVDs be it music games or video.

and forget all that CD rot bullshit that came up a few years ago.

I wont even get into the whole emulation thing on this board as im well aware of how much hate and flaming that would bring my way.

BUT I will mention the Wii and use it as a prime example but one of the many reasons it will be the cartridge based games values that will plummet to next to nothing and NOT the CD/DVD based games.

Very few ppl -even hardcore gamers- are going to pay $80.00 for a game they can play on the Wii for a couple bucks OR............... for free on emu?< OK dont ban me or anything I know I know that an OLD arguement but now that emulation is soo easy and simple I see or read on other forums, even non computer savvy ppl have many old Nintendo and Sega games playing on emulators now more than ever.

I know that many on this board are avid collectors of mostly cartridge based systems and I respect many of my fellow gamers on this board, but all in all I think that many here are blinded by thier love and dedication for the older cartridge format and simply refuse to see the fact that CD/DVD based games ARE and in the future will become as collectable - or even moreso- than the older cartridge based games.


On a side note I do agree than NOW and throughout the next year or so will be the best time to collect for this generation be it PS2,Xbox or Gamecube.

I see many PS2,Xbox 1, and GC games that I think WILL be collectable and sought after by collectors in the future with price ranges from $5.99 to mostly $9.99 US right now.

[smork]

OK

Here we go again about the whole Cartridge vs. CD/DVD thing.

If what you just stated is true then why are the old top tier N64 games that were originally released at around $60-$80 a pop floating at the $10.00 range? and not closer to Neo-Geo based values?



I know that many on this board are avid collectors of mostly cartridge based systems and I respect many of my fellow gamers on this board, but all in all I think that many here are blinded by thier love and dedication for the older cartridge format and simply refuse to see the fact that CD/DVD based games ARE and in the future will become as collectable - or even moreso- than the older cartridge based games.

Hmm, I don't know if you've gotten into this argument before, but I think you've misread the point of that post. I think he was saying that because DVD/CD media is more destructable the supply is more limited -- not that the games themselves aren't collectible.

I think that down the road there will be a smaller supply of DVD/CD media vs. what was printed than there is now of cartridge based systems -- not because of any design flaw, or bit rot, or any inherent issue with the type of media, but because of abuse/misuse. Sure there's issues with cartridge media as well, but generally some abuse to a cartridge leaves a playable game, where disc abuse can completely ruin it.

I think this makes disc based media MORE, not less collectible, as the supply will be limited down the road.

As for emulation, scanning and reprints of old magazines and books and rereleases of old records on CD hasn't really hurt any of the secondary markets for those items, so I don't see how emulation will have too much effect on the prices of old games. Look -- you can play the rom of Stadium Events, but that doesn't prevent everyone in the NES community from going apeshit when one pops up on eBay.

[ismokeblunts]

i'm not saying that because they are on cd that they are going to be less collectible, i'm saying that you have to factor in the fact that alot of people simply do not take fantastic care of their cds. and in my opinion from average day to day use, cartridges will stand up better to the abuse. all it takes is one real good ding to a disc and it's fucked. say 65,000 copies of a game were released on disc, ten years after release, how many of the discs do you think kids have left laying face up on a counter top only ot have something tossed onto top of it, left laying on the carpet, chewed through, how many have been etched to deathj in dirty machines? i'm guessing that ten years down the line, a whole whole lot of original released games are going be up and gone. possibly making some titles ultra rare in their original form. i don't think a cd would go through quite the same amount of shit oan old cartridge would. how many old atari and nintendo cartidges were tossed away in the bottom of some heap of old toys or whatever else, banged around by who knows what who knows how, and turned up, only to have the contacts cleanedup and played fine? cd's aren't going to take that. then there's all the games that dissappear to rental shops and so and so. those discs ultimately get completely fucked. whereas i've bought plenty of used rental nintendo games that look and play just spiffy after a litl goo gone treatment. all i am getting at is that there's no way to predict the future of current gen game's collectibility as far as rarity is concerned, sorry if i got your disc lovin' ass bent out of shape :D :D :D cartidges own

[ismokeblunts]

hmm, I don't know if you've gotten into this argument before, but I think you've misread the point of that post. I think he was saying that because DVD/CD media is more destructable the supply is more limited -- not that the games themselves aren't collectible.


exactly what i was getting at, thank you.

[ismokeblunts]

hmm, I don't know if you've gotten into this argument before, but I think you've misread the point of that post. I think he was saying that because DVD/CD media is more destructable the supply is more limited -- not that the games themselves aren't collectible.


exactly what i was getting at, thank you.

[Griking]

I know I had a bitch of a time finding a copy of Wizardry for the PS2. Is that game a lot easier to find in other parts of the country or is it border line rare?