Odd Ebay Buyer Request?

[Nate Nanjo]

Well, last night one of my lots sold on Ebay. The Message:

Hello,

I will be able to Use my UPS account to pick this item up.Okay? The Money Order / Payment will be issued today and will be mailed out today but I would like to include an extra money on the money order that will be sent to you plus the sales of your item.

The essence of the excess money is for my girlfriend to pay for her school fees at the London Metropolitan University in UK but I am not in the best position to send her this money because I am not holding cash right now but Money Orders and there is no way she could cash the Money Order in England where she is right now.

I would really appreciate your effort and concern if you could cash the Money Order and send her money via Western Union after you might have deducted the funds for the sales of your item + an extra $20 for your time and effort.Okay?

If you wish to help us as regards this issue and willing to continue with this transaction,Kindly send me your name and address for mailing the payment to you.Okay?

Upon recieving your response,I shall have the payment sent out.

Thank you so much in anticipation.

With Regards,

It doesn't seem like a scam, I really don't see how it would.

Thoughts?

[Nate Nanjo]

Well, last night one of my lots sold on Ebay. The Message:

Hello,

I will be able to Use my UPS account to pick this item up.Okay? The Money Order / Payment will be issued today and will be mailed out today but I would like to include an extra money on the money order that will be sent to you plus the sales of your item.

The essence of the excess money is for my girlfriend to pay for her school fees at the London Metropolitan University in UK but I am not in the best position to send her this money because I am not holding cash right now but Money Orders and there is no way she could cash the Money Order in England where she is right now.

I would really appreciate your effort and concern if you could cash the Money Order and send her money via Western Union after you might have deducted the funds for the sales of your item + an extra $20 for your time and effort.Okay?

If you wish to help us as regards this issue and willing to continue with this transaction,Kindly send me your name and address for mailing the payment to you.Okay?

Upon recieving your response,I shall have the payment sent out.

Thank you so much in anticipation.

With Regards,

It doesn't seem like a scam, I really don't see how it would.

Thoughts?

[Vroomfunkel]

On the contrary, it is most certainly a scam. Don't touch it with a barge pole.

The general procedure is to try to convince you to send the funds via W.U., after which you discover that the money order you have deposited at the bank was purchased with fraudulent funds and is therefore rejected. Thus you lose your goods, get no money and have sent the scammer a tidy sum in addition.

Oh, and the thing about money orders not being accepted in the UK is nonsense, which is what proves this to be a scam.

Vroomfunkel

[Vroomfunkel]

On the contrary, it is most certainly a scam. Don't touch it with a barge pole.

The general procedure is to try to convince you to send the funds via W.U., after which you discover that the money order you have deposited at the bank was purchased with fraudulent funds and is therefore rejected. Thus you lose your goods, get no money and have sent the scammer a tidy sum in addition.

Oh, and the thing about money orders not being accepted in the UK is nonsense, which is what proves this to be a scam.

Vroomfunkel

[Nate Nanjo]

Eh, well I said I would do it. However, I told him I wouldn't ship anything until it cleared.

Even if it clears and I have the money, could I still lose it?

Looks like I may have a problem. :/

[Nate Nanjo]

Eh, well I said I would do it. However, I told him I wouldn't ship anything until it cleared.

Even if it clears and I have the money, could I still lose it?

Looks like I may have a problem. :/

[anagrama]

Even if it clears and I have the money, could I still lose it?

Yup, that's what they count on - you think it clears OK, so send out the item, but then the payment gets reversed further down the line. Don't go through with it under any circumstances.

[anagrama]

Even if it clears and I have the money, could I still lose it?

Yup, that's what they count on - you think it clears OK, so send out the item, but then the payment gets reversed further down the line. Don't go through with it under any circumstances.

[Nate Nanjo]

Then, should I contact Ebay about it?

So I can like avoid getting negative feedback?

[Nate Nanjo]

Then, should I contact Ebay about it?

So I can like avoid getting negative feedback?

[Vroomfunkel]

Then, should I contact Ebay about it?

So I can like avoid getting negative feedback?

Yes, contact them immediately and forward copies of the emails you've had. They will hopefully suspend the user, in which case they cannot leave you bad feedback.

In the meantime, I guess just play along and pretend you're going to go through. Just say that the money order hasn't cleared if they ask why you haven't posted.

[Vroomfunkel]

Then, should I contact Ebay about it?

So I can like avoid getting negative feedback?

Yes, contact them immediately and forward copies of the emails you've had. They will hopefully suspend the user, in which case they cannot leave you bad feedback.

In the meantime, I guess just play along and pretend you're going to go through. Just say that the money order hasn't cleared if they ask why you haven't posted.

[Darth Sensei]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

[Darth Sensei]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

[chaoticjelly]

Well, last night one of my lots sold on Ebay. The Message:

Hello,

I will be able to Use my UPS account to pick this item up.Okay? The Money Order / Payment will be issued today and will be mailed out today but I would like to include an extra money on the money order that will be sent to you plus the sales of your item.

The essence of the excess money is for my girlfriend to pay for her school fees at the London Metropolitan University in UK but I am not in the best position to send her this money because I am not holding cash right now but Money Orders and there is no way she could cash the Money Order in England where she is right now.

I would really appreciate your effort and concern if you could cash the Money Order and send her money via Western Union after you might have deducted the funds for the sales of your item + an extra $20 for your time and effort.Okay?

If you wish to help us as regards this issue and willing to continue with this transaction,Kindly send me your name and address for mailing the payment to you.Okay?

Upon recieving your response,I shall have the payment sent out.

Thank you so much in anticipation.

With Regards,

It doesn't seem like a scam, I really don't see how it would.

Thoughts?

Well, the guys above already answered this.. definitly a SCAM, SCAM, SCAM

Money Order will be fake/bought using stolen card, your sending "extra" money etc probably a few hundred dollars or what? and via Western Union means that literally they cannot be traced, so your left a few hundred dollars down..

Remember.. if it sounds too good to be true (i.e. someone giving you "extra" money etc etc) then it usually is.

[chaoticjelly]

Well, last night one of my lots sold on Ebay. The Message:

Hello,

I will be able to Use my UPS account to pick this item up.Okay? The Money Order / Payment will be issued today and will be mailed out today but I would like to include an extra money on the money order that will be sent to you plus the sales of your item.

The essence of the excess money is for my girlfriend to pay for her school fees at the London Metropolitan University in UK but I am not in the best position to send her this money because I am not holding cash right now but Money Orders and there is no way she could cash the Money Order in England where she is right now.

I would really appreciate your effort and concern if you could cash the Money Order and send her money via Western Union after you might have deducted the funds for the sales of your item + an extra $20 for your time and effort.Okay?

If you wish to help us as regards this issue and willing to continue with this transaction,Kindly send me your name and address for mailing the payment to you.Okay?

Upon recieving your response,I shall have the payment sent out.

Thank you so much in anticipation.

With Regards,

It doesn't seem like a scam, I really don't see how it would.

Thoughts?

Well, the guys above already answered this.. definitly a SCAM, SCAM, SCAM

Money Order will be fake/bought using stolen card, your sending "extra" money etc probably a few hundred dollars or what? and via Western Union means that literally they cannot be traced, so your left a few hundred dollars down..

Remember.. if it sounds too good to be true (i.e. someone giving you "extra" money etc etc) then it usually is.

[Nate Nanjo]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

The buyer used a BIN and is from VA. So he was in the US or well so he wants me to believe that.

Maybe I need to quit using Buy It Nows.

[Nate Nanjo]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

The buyer used a BIN and is from VA. So he was in the US or well so he wants me to believe that.

Maybe I need to quit using Buy It Nows.

[Vroomfunkel]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

Not to carry on an old, old argument .. but that is pretty much nonsense. Many scammers have US registered accounts. And the vast majority of extra-US users are not scammers.

A little common sense is all that is needed to sift out the problem guys. The methods are almost always the same, so they are pretty easy to spot.

Vroomfunkel

[Vroomfunkel]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

Not to carry on an old, old argument .. but that is pretty much nonsense. Many scammers have US registered accounts. And the vast majority of extra-US users are not scammers.

A little common sense is all that is needed to sift out the problem guys. The methods are almost always the same, so they are pretty easy to spot.

Vroomfunkel

[FABombjoy]

I have had a rare instance where someone wanted something shipped through their UPS/Fedex account, but the whole "extra-money", in conjunction with the words "Western Union" part throws this one right out.

Someone should create 'Scamassassin' where you check off boxes like "western union", "foreign transaction", etc., and the program returns a "scam score" based on bayesian algorithm... just like SpamAssassin

Or, eBay could incorporate said feature into their communications system. Then, when scammers send emails, you'd know it was bunk because they have to ask for "W.e.s.tern Un1on"

[FABombjoy]

I have had a rare instance where someone wanted something shipped through their UPS/Fedex account, but the whole "extra-money", in conjunction with the words "Western Union" part throws this one right out.

Someone should create 'Scamassassin' where you check off boxes like "western union", "foreign transaction", etc., and the program returns a "scam score" based on bayesian algorithm... just like SpamAssassin

Or, eBay could incorporate said feature into their communications system. Then, when scammers send emails, you'd know it was bunk because they have to ask for "W.e.s.tern Un1on"

[jajaja]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

Not to carry on an old, old argument .. but that is pretty much nonsense. Many scammers have US registered accounts. And the vast majority of extra-US users are not scammers.

A little common sense is all that is needed to sift out the problem guys. The methods are almost always the same, so they are pretty easy to spot.

Vroomfunkel

I agree. I do respect if you dont want to ship outisde US, but the chances for you to get scammed is just as big if you only ship within US. 99% of the users on Ebay follow their buys/sells like they shall.

This case looks alittle like a scam to me. Nigerian scammers always (almost) mention UK in their scamming attempts. About money orders, if they clear and you get the money, can you still lose them? If so, how?

[jajaja]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

Not to carry on an old, old argument .. but that is pretty much nonsense. Many scammers have US registered accounts. And the vast majority of extra-US users are not scammers.

A little common sense is all that is needed to sift out the problem guys. The methods are almost always the same, so they are pretty easy to spot.

Vroomfunkel

I agree. I do respect if you dont want to ship outisde US, but the chances for you to get scammed is just as big if you only ship within US. 99% of the users on Ebay follow their buys/sells like they shall.

This case looks alittle like a scam to me. Nigerian scammers always (almost) mention UK in their scamming attempts. About money orders, if they clear and you get the money, can you still lose them? If so, how?

[Nate Nanjo]

Well, I went to live ebay support thing and was directed to email the Trust and Safty, so I guess I have to wait for them to respond.

[Nate Nanjo]

Well, I went to live ebay support thing and was directed to email the Trust and Safty, so I guess I have to wait for them to respond.

[Darren870]

100% scam

[Darren870]

100% scam

[Nate Nanjo]

Well, the guy is now NLARU. I got my Final Value fee back.

So, Problem Sovled. I wonder if I'll still get a Money order, I also reported his emails as spam.

[Nate Nanjo]

Well, the guy is now NLARU. I got my Final Value fee back.

So, Problem Sovled. I wonder if I'll still get a Money order, I also reported his emails as spam.

[Darth Sensei]

Well, the guy is now NLARU. I got my Final Value fee back.

So, Problem Sovled. I wonder if I'll still get a Money order, I also reported his emails as spam.

Ah, but did you get your listing fee back? You still lost $$.

[Darth Sensei]

Well, the guy is now NLARU. I got my Final Value fee back.

So, Problem Sovled. I wonder if I'll still get a Money order, I also reported his emails as spam.

Ah, but did you get your listing fee back? You still lost $$.

[Nate Nanjo]

Yes, I did.

[Nate Nanjo]

Yes, I did.

[loporjai2003]

SCAM !! Took a look of writing or is it generic ...

[Predatorxs]

SCAM !! Took a look of writing or is it generic ...

As all the guys have mentioned it is a scam, and i'v had to deal with people like this before, i was selling a few mobile phones in the UK at the end of last year, and had two of them on BIN's.

people from Africa where using ebay id's reg'd in the UK, and they tell you a sob story about trying to help someone in there family boo, hoo, hoo and can i send them the phone straight away after i have payment.

anyway the guy used the bin, and i got back and said NO shipping to africa, so i leave him a neg, and re-list, he buys it again with a slightly different ebay user, a day later, i do the same and Neg him again.

Day three he does it again, i ended up selling it with a 7 day auction instead and got the same amount i had wanted for the bin, in each of the winning bids he sent the exact same message about his new born daughter, and how his wife in africa needed the phone.

I Checked his bidding and he was doing it to another 10 to 12 sellers also selling mobile phones. these scamming assholes need shooting! i did contact ebay with the 3 auctions and the emails but got no responce, only a we'll contact you soon? x_x

[Insaneclown]

Not to drag up an old argument but this is one of the reasons I only take US Bids.

:(

[Nate Nanjo]

The guy resent an email asking if I got his money order yet. I guess he hasn't notice long has an account. :(