Help from Nintendo experts needed

[devilman]

Had this cart arrive the other day...

http://i14.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/22/ac/cb_1_b.JPG

It was listed as a US SNES Cart but it looks more like a Famicom bootleg which I like to pick up anyway. However, the pins have confused me. Here's a pic I've just taken -

http://www.webmad.co.uk/nintendo.jpg
Top to Bottom -
Super Famicom
US SNES
Mystery Cart
Pal SNES Cart
Famicom Cart

My guess would still be famicom but it's shorter than all my others so I don't know what I'm supposed to play it on!

[devilman]

Had this cart arrive the other day...

http://i14.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/22/ac/cb_1_b.JPG

It was listed as a US SNES Cart but it looks more like a Famicom bootleg which I like to pick up anyway. However, the pins have confused me. Here's a pic I've just taken -

http://www.webmad.co.uk/nintendo.jpg
Top to Bottom -
Super Famicom
US SNES
Mystery Cart
Pal SNES Cart
Famicom Cart

My guess would still be famicom but it's shorter than all my others so I don't know what I'm supposed to play it on!

[InsaneDavid]

It's a pirate Famicom multicart. However the connectors on the left corner (of the picture) have been snapped off.

[InsaneDavid]

It's a pirate Famicom multicart. However the connectors on the left corner (of the picture) have been snapped off.

[devilman]

Hmm, possibly but it looks pretty even on this photo -
http://www.consolemad.co.uk/famicom.jpg
There's a puncture hole on the far left but no real evidence of the connectors having been snapped off.

[devilman]

Hmm, possibly but it looks pretty even on this photo -
http://www.consolemad.co.uk/famicom.jpg
There's a puncture hole on the far left but no real evidence of the connectors having been snapped off.

[jajaja]

Normaly Famicom games have 60 pins as you probly know, this only have 50. I guess it will still work, have you tried it btw? I have a original NES board with only 46 pins (almost look like a SNES cart) so i guess you dont need all 60/72 pins to get it to work.

[jajaja]

Normaly Famicom games have 60 pins as you probly know, this only have 50. I guess it will still work, have you tried it btw? I have a original NES board with only 46 pins (almost look like a SNES cart) so i guess you dont need all 60/72 pins to get it to work.

[devilman]

Well I usually play my famicom games on a Game Theory Admiral but the case of this cart gets in the way. I suppose I could break it open and try it but I'll try and find another way to play it first! :)

[devilman]

Well I usually play my famicom games on a Game Theory Admiral but the case of this cart gets in the way. I suppose I could break it open and try it but I'll try and find another way to play it first! :)

[InsaneDavid]

Hmm, possibly but it looks pretty even on this photo -

There's a puncture hole on the far left but no real evidence of the connectors having been snapped off.

Hmm, well in the earlier picture it looked chipped off, but now I see that's not the case. The 50 pins thing is what gets me now. Even if there were "missing" pins like on some NES cartridges (which, by the way, are usually the pins that directly interface with the expansion port so they weren't put on later carts / lots of third party) - the board can't be for a Famicom, the pin spread is all wrong.

So... let me think.. hmmm...

*grabs trusty Sega Master System cartridge and counts* ...25 x 2 if I'm seeing this right (it's late, been a long night). That would make it possibly a pirate Sega Mark III cartridge?

[InsaneDavid]

Hmm, possibly but it looks pretty even on this photo -

There's a puncture hole on the far left but no real evidence of the connectors having been snapped off.

Hmm, well in the earlier picture it looked chipped off, but now I see that's not the case. The 50 pins thing is what gets me now. Even if there were "missing" pins like on some NES cartridges (which, by the way, are usually the pins that directly interface with the expansion port so they weren't put on later carts / lots of third party) - the board can't be for a Famicom, the pin spread is all wrong.

So... let me think.. hmmm...

*grabs trusty Sega Master System cartridge and counts* ...25 x 2 if I'm seeing this right (it's late, been a long night). That would make it possibly a pirate Sega Mark III cartridge?

[devilman]

Ah, you could well be right there as it looks very similar to a MS cart in terms of width. I'll have to get me one of those MKIII>MS adaptors and give it a try. Thanks for the info!

[devilman]

Ah, you could well be right there as it looks very similar to a MS cart in terms of width. I'll have to get me one of those MKIII>MS adaptors and give it a try. Thanks for the info!

[klausien]

The Master System theory makes sense considering the games that are on it.

[klausien]

The Master System theory makes sense considering the games that are on it.

[Speedy_NES]

The Master System theory makes sense considering the games that are on it.
I agree that the master system theory makes sense, but as for the games, there are tons of Street Fighter pirates for Famicom and NES, and there's also a bunch of Dragon Ball Z games for Famicom, so this cart could be a Famicom pirate given the games, too ;)

[Speedy_NES]

The Master System theory makes sense considering the games that are on it.
I agree that the master system theory makes sense, but as for the games, there are tons of Street Fighter pirates for Famicom and NES, and there's also a bunch of Dragon Ball Z games for Famicom, so this cart could be a Famicom pirate given the games, too ;)

[devilman]

The Master System theory makes sense considering the games that are on it.
I agree that the master system theory makes sense, but as for the games, there are tons of Street Fighter pirates for Famicom and NES, and there's also a bunch of Dragon Ball Z games for Famicom, so this cart could be a Famicom pirate given the games, too ;)

Yeah, that's what misled me completely - I think I have pirates with all those games on so naturally assumed it was a famicom pirate rather than a MkIII. Learn something new every day I guess!

[devilman]

The Master System theory makes sense considering the games that are on it.
I agree that the master system theory makes sense, but as for the games, there are tons of Street Fighter pirates for Famicom and NES, and there's also a bunch of Dragon Ball Z games for Famicom, so this cart could be a Famicom pirate given the games, too ;)

Yeah, that's what misled me completely - I think I have pirates with all those games on so naturally assumed it was a famicom pirate rather than a MkIII. Learn something new every day I guess!

[rbudrick]

I was thinking maybe MSX, but Master System sounds ok, considering the games supposedly on it...strange that it is SMS size and not MKIII size.

-Rob

[rbudrick]

I was thinking maybe MSX, but Master System sounds ok, considering the games supposedly on it...strange that it is SMS size and not MKIII size.

-Rob

[idrougge]

I was thinking maybe MSX, but Master System sounds ok, considering the games supposedly on it...strange that it is SMS size and not MKIII size.

I haven't heard of a Dragonball or Ranma game for Mastersystem.

[InsaneDavid]

I was thinking maybe MSX, but Master System sounds ok, considering the games supposedly on it...strange that it is SMS size and not MKIII size.

I haven't heard of a Dragonball or Ranma game for Mastersystem.

Many pirate multicarts will put something on the front related to an anime or another game that has nothing to do with what's actually on there. It could end up being a copy of Black Belt or Shinobi for instance, maybe with a sprite hack - maybe not - but in the pirate world that would pass for justification for that label.

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

First of all, it's definitely not a Mark III cart since those are considerably narrower and have fewer pins anyway (42, I think), so you don't need to make an adapter in order to test it out. Just pop it into your Master System...assuming it fits into a SMS with that cartridge design.

Whatever the internal board is, it's obviously in a pirate Famicom cartridge's case. While that might be something pirates would do if they had extra Famicom cart cases lying around, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it's just a standard and common SMS game that someone (possibly the person who sold it to you) stuck into that case because the board that was in there wasn't working any more.

Some pirate Master System stuff has come out of Hong Kong, though. Master System format, not Mark III. But never in Famicom cartidge cases.

http://www.smspower.org/misc/sms_pirate_cartridge_M202-01.jpg


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