trying to determine platform Frogger II: Threedeep cartridge

[Perkar]

so i have this cartridge here... actually i have 2 of them.

http://www.steelangel.com/~helmet/perkar/finds/041015-frogger2.jpg

and i have no clue what system it goes to... at first i thought it was for the colecovision, but upon further inspection it isn't... coleco label faces the other way.

anyway, just wondering if anyone could help me identify this thing. any help is appreciated. thanks!

[Kid Ice]

Looks like the VCS version to me. The Colecovision label is gold in color.

[Jibbajaba]

Actually it SHOULD be the Commodore 64 version (I have the cart myself.) Any chance you could snap a quick pic of its butt so I can see the part of the PCB that's sticking out?

Chris

[Perkar]

it's definitely not a 2600 cart... it's about a half an inch narrower in width. doesn't come close to fitting in the cartridge slot on my system.

[kainemaxwell]

Looks either like the C=64 or the Atari 2600. Snap a pic of the connectors.

[Perkar]

Actually it SHOULD be the Commodore 64 version (I have the cart myself.) Any chance you could snap a quick pic of its butt so I can see the part of the PCB that's sticking out?

Chris

no pic at the moment, but the PCB sticking out of the end almost covers the entire width of the cartridge.

[boatofcar]

It might be an Atari 8 bit cart. My RotJ:Death Star Battle cart looks like that.

[Perkar]

here's the requested pic...

http://64.159.77.51/~helmet/perkar/images/frogger2.jpg

so we're thinking C64, eh?

[Jibbajaba]

My vote still goes with the C64. Why not just pop it in your Commodore and find out?

Chris

[Perkar]

My vote still goes with the C64. Why not just pop it in your Commodore and find out?

Chris

don't have a commodore 64 to pop it in :(

feel free to donate one to the cause though :)

[Blitzwing256]

definatly c64.

[tom]

Here's the comparison:

VCS left, C-64 right

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/thomasholzer/Picture003.jpg

[GarrettCRW]

Hello, reason why the video game market crashed in the early '80s.

[tom]

What you're saying? Frogger Threeedeep is an excellent game.

[GarrettCRW]

What you're saying? Frogger Threeedeep is an excellent game.

And it was obviously released on so many systems that no one can figure out which one this particular cartridge is for.

[Mayhem]

Yep C64, knew it as soon as I saw it. Actually quite a good game overall.

[tom]

GarrettCRW said:
>>>>And it was obviously released on so many systems that no one can figure out which one this particular cartridge is for.<<<<


Well yes that is so true. Released on all major formats at the time:

Atari 2600
Atari 5200
Coleco
Atari XL
C-64
Apple ][

Only missing on Intellivision

[diskoboy]

I can tell you with absolute 100% certianty that it is for the Commodore 64.

It looks exactly like my C64 Q*bert which I am staring at as I type this.

Good find, too! I have never seen that game in the wild - on any platform.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1728/dsc00327sm9hb.jpg

[Kitsune Sniper]

What you're saying? Frogger Threeedeep is an excellent game.

And it was obviously released on so many systems that no one can figure out which one this particular cartridge is for.

No, that's the fault of the manufacturers of the era for not stating for what platform is it. :P I've seen a ton of similar carts but NONE say the system it's intended for. Bloody annoying.

[Perkar]

I can tell you with absolute 100% certianty that it is for the Commodore 64.

It looks exactly like my C64 Q*bert which I am staring at as I type this.

Good find, too! I have never seen that game in the wild - on any platform.

thanks! it's actually the second one i've found in the wild... so if anyone needs the thing, drop me a PM.

[diskoboy]

What you're saying? Frogger Threeedeep is an excellent game.

And it was obviously released on so many systems that no one can figure out which one this particular cartridge is for.

No, that's the fault of the manufacturers of the era for not stating for what platform is it. :P I've seen a ton of similar carts but NONE say the system it's intended for. Bloody annoying.

I agree... Most other companies of the time put the system it was for, on the cart label itself.

Parker Bros. was never good at this practice. Even by looking at the box, it was difficult to decipher what console it was for. The boxes looked the same, no matter what system they were for (except for the 5200 - the boxes were a little more on the gold side). The stickers that told you what system you were buying it for was on the outside of the shrinkwrap. So once you take off that cellophane, you're screwed.

And another question - why did Parker Bros. have the rights to Frogger? Sega was developing software for all platforms of the time - How did Parker Brothers get the Frogger liscense? And they were good about labeling their carts!

[Sanriostar]

That is *SUCH* a C64 cart. The pin count on C64 carts *should* be 21 or 22, with 2 gaps in the placement.

I might end up going blind or growing hair on my palms for doing this, but years ago, I wrote a Retrogaming Times article regarding telling the difference between C64 and Inty carts:
here (http://www.tomheroes.com/Video%20Games%20FS/Retrotimes/retrotimes20.htm#Seeking%20out%20the%20Red%20Thrus hed%20Intellivision%20and%20the%20Fan-Tailed%20Commodore%2064%20in%20thier%20native%20ha bitat.)
/Has all 7 PB C64 carts CIB, thankyouverymuch.. :D

[tom]

diskoboy said:
>>>>And another question - why did Parker Bros. have the rights to Frogger? Sega was developing software for all platforms of the time - How did Parker Brothers get the Frogger liscense? And they were good about labeling their carts!<<<<

This was pre-Sega domination. Sega wasn't a big home console player in those days. Parker had aquired the rights for the cartridge version of the original Frogger, whilst Sierra on Line got the home computer versions (disc and/or tape), and Starpath had rights for producing a cassette version for VCS via Supercharger. I guess later Parker got the rights for Frogger II: Threeedep, as they had the original cartridge rights for Frogger.

[Mayhem]

Parker did an original game here. There is no Frogger 2 machine, they created something new based on the license (much in the same way Ocean did in the future with the Renegade license).