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Hounder
06-04-2006, 06:11 PM
Who has this game for the NES? I know it's probably the second rarest NES title out there so not a whole lot of people probably do. I have the box and manual for it but no game. Is yours just the cart, complete, or sealed? Or do you too have just the box/manual? And if you can, post what number it is :)

Mine are numbered #514. Anyone that has this cart, I'd be interested in purchasing :)

People who claim to own a Myriad (9):
DreamTR - Complete
Speedy - Sealed
Portnoyd - Sealed
D_N_G - Sealed
Bronty-2 - Sealed
NGD - Cart
blissfulnoise - Cart
Hounder - Sealed *pending*
Player-2 - Cart (2)
gundam_pilot - Complete
Jumpman Jr - Cart
Nintendonut - Complete
atwoodtm - Sealed

Total found: 13

- 5 Sealed
- 3 Complete
- 5 Cart

jajaja
06-04-2006, 06:58 PM
There are a few people here who has it for sure. Bronty also has a sealed copy :)

Hounder
06-04-2006, 07:04 PM
I know....I hate him :P I think Speedy does too. At least I know he has a complete copy as does gundam. Portnoyd and D_N_G also have sealed copies if I'm not mistaken.

Jumpman Jr.
06-04-2006, 09:10 PM
Not me :frustrated:
Next one that surfaces with be mine, though

DreamTR
06-04-2006, 09:52 PM
I've had one for years...

norkusa
06-04-2006, 10:10 PM
I've got the Caltron 6-in-1. Virtually the same cartridge with the exception of a different title screen and no sticker over the cartridge label.

Speedy_NES
06-04-2006, 10:12 PM
I've got the Caltron 6-in-1. Virtually the same cartridge with the exception of a different title screen and no sticker over the cartridge label.
You mean same titlescreen ;)

I also have one, like Hounder said. Sealed, and it is #518. I've also had it for a very long time.

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 01:06 AM
I know....I hate him :P

Rough crowd! :D I don't know the # of mine without getting out of storage but if someone's keeping a database or something I can look it up :)

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 01:26 AM
I have the box and manual for it but no game.

Did you buy your box and manual from qixmaster, btw?

Nesmaster
06-05-2006, 01:34 AM
I have the box and manual for it but no game.

Did you buy your box and manual from qixmaster, btw?


*myriad box and manual only (box is a little worn, numbered 000514 - SOLD

:)

Hounder
06-05-2006, 03:47 AM
I have the box and manual for it but no game.

Did you buy your box and manual from qixmaster, btw?

Aye....I did :) Jbholio has the #514 cart pic on his website but I don't know if it's his or not. If it is, maybe he will sell it to me so mine will all match up.

smork
06-05-2006, 10:13 AM
I've never understood - what's so different about these multicarts that makes them so different from other pirate multicarts? I guess I don't understand what makes a Caltron or Myriad desirable and some Thai multicart worthless?

I'm not trying to be a troll here - I just actually don't understand the difference :)

blissfulnoise
06-05-2006, 10:17 AM
I had mine for sale in the forums for a short amount of time due to a family emergency that came up.

I couldn't end up agreeing on a price however.

I then listed it on eBay and a dead-beat bidder won it, which was fortunate I guess as ultimately it fetched less than I would have liked.

The one I have now isn't really up for sale now as I came up with the money needed via other means.

In any case, it's #190. I haven't heard of any collectors with a lower number, but I've seen a picture of one with a lower number. There are many threads on this subject including one I started some time back specualating the Myraid's rarity along the lines of the NWC Greys.

Player-2 owns a couple of these I believe and he may be an excellent resource to obtain more info.

Qixmaster was also interested in tracking down Myriad, the company, or whatever may be left of it in Texas. I don't know how far he got. I still speculate that there's a pallet of these carts in a warehouse in Texas somewhere. It's the only logical explanation for the numbering on the carts verses what's actually surfaced.

blissfulnoise
06-05-2006, 10:19 AM
I've never understood - what's so different about these multicarts that makes them so different from other pirate multicarts? I guess I don't understand what makes a Caltron or Myriad desirable and some Thai multicart worthless?

I'm not trying to be a troll here - I just actually don't understand the difference :)

They had legitmate retail releases in the United States. They, effectively, contain original games as well. Thus they're, more or less, thought of as "canon" for offical US NES releases.

That and Magic Carpet actually isn't that bad...

Hounder
06-05-2006, 10:25 AM
I've never understood - what's so different about these multicarts that makes them so different from other pirate multicarts? I guess I don't understand what makes a Caltron or Myriad desirable and some Thai multicart worthless?

I'm not trying to be a troll here - I just actually don't understand the difference :)
Myriad and Caltron were unlicensed US releases such as the Color Dreams games and the Panesians. Sachens and other pirates are not so therefore many collectors don't care to have them hence the low value of them.

Hmm....maybe I should ask Player-2 if he has one he would like to sell....

Hounder
06-05-2006, 11:09 AM
I know....I hate him :P

Rough crowd! :D I don't know the # of mine without getting out of storage but if someone's keeping a database or something I can look it up :)
Nope....not keeping a database. Well, not right now anyway. I think Speedy use to keep one. Not sure if he still is or not. I'm just interested in this game and it's rarity. I need to get a hold of qixmaster and have him send me the info he found out on it.

To me, this game seems to be rarer than Stadium Events. Maybe not worth as much but much rarer. For most collectors, this is almost ALWAYS the last game they need. So it's history and who actually even owns one eludes me :) Plus with my recent purchase of the box/manual I'm even more intrigued to find out more info on this game :)

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 11:42 AM
To me, this game seems to be rarer than Stadium Events. Maybe not worth as much but much rarer.

I think that's a fair statement - seems to come up less on ebay. Can't say I've kept close watch though.

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 11:48 AM
It's the only logical explanation for the numbering on the carts verses what's actually surfaced.

Can you elaborate? Are you getting at the fact that few low # carts have surfaced? If so, it's certainly possible, I guess, that there are untouched cases although we would need to chart a lot more than nine numbers before even coming up with any guesses.

Furthermore, it's equally likely that they were just tossed. I've spoken to people who literally filled dumpsters with cases of sealed nes games when the nes died out.

Hounder
06-05-2006, 12:19 PM
To me, this game seems to be rarer than Stadium Events. Maybe not worth as much but much rarer.

I think that's a fair statement - seems to come up less on ebay. Can't say I've kept close watch though.
Last one that was up on ebay was blissfulnoise's cart. I think there was one a week before his and then back in December usk4flip has his COMPLETE collection up for sale which had a Myriad. Those have been the only 3 that I know of in the past 8 or 9 months. In that time frame I've seen probably 10 if not more NTSC SE, and a handful of the Panesians and Caltrons. I think Cheetahmen II is the only other game I really haven't seen on ebay or for sale anywhere as of late.

I'm speculating that there are less than 100 out there in collector's hands. And since they are in collector's hands, they're not going up for sale anywhere unless for some reason they need the money. They tend to sell for close to $700 on ebay while SE fetches right around $650 if that much.

Gamemaster_ca_2003
06-05-2006, 12:49 PM
Nope I don't Have One.

blissfulnoise
06-05-2006, 01:56 PM
It's the only logical explanation for the numbering on the carts verses what's actually surfaced.

Can you elaborate? Are you getting at the fact that few low # carts have surfaced? If so, it's certainly possible, I guess, that there are untouched cases although we would need to chart a lot more than nine numbers before even coming up with any guesses.

Furthermore, it's equally likely that they were just tossed. I've spoken to people who literally filled dumpsters with cases of sealed nes games when the nes died out.

It's equally likely they were disposed of I suppose. Regardless, we've got numbers in collectors hands between 0001XX - 0009XX, that would seem to indiciate that, at most, 1000 were printed. But only a few dozen have come to light. Read into that what you will.

Again, this is speculation and I haven't put on the Fedora and done any detective work, but perhaps someone more industrious living in Texas would be willing to look more into it?

Qixmaster
06-05-2006, 02:21 PM
Alright. Here is the dirt that is fit to dish:

I bought the box and manual at CGE in 2004 from Kevin Gifford at the swap meet, along with a caltron box. The box was at the bottom of his green tote, crushed by many of his NES games. TRE saw it all. This is why the #000514 cartridge appears online so often. |ster's old NES archive had info about all this shizzle and he used his own collection photos/scans. He never took a picture of the box or manual.

As soon as I got it I searched high and low for the individual who had that exact cart. I was willing to kill for it.

No response to my threads and countless inquires. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. So, to Hounder... good luck finding that cart.

about my searching out Myriad. No such luck.

On the back of the manuals there is an address for some place in Texas called Kingwood. The address listed is no longer part of Kingwood, but part of some other 'Burb near Kingwood. It appears as if the address was some sort of plaza that had different office buildings.... I called numbers (along with Atari_Wizard, who posts much more often over at RFgeneration) in the area and talked with some people. We found nothing. Nobody in the area had ever heard anything about the company. It was a dead end and to this day still is.

I would have stayed with it a little more but life got in the way

In my humble opinion, this is by far the rarest released NES game. Stadium Events is a cake walk in comparison... you got the dough, you can own a stadium events.

You got the dough for a Myriad, you have got to WAIT AND WAIT and hopefully be the one who snags the copy up for sale.

i am extremely surprised blissfulnose's myriad didn't sell. If at the time I had the money I totally would have bought it, but lucky for him he doesn't have to sell it now.

Hounder. Please feel free to contact me via PM or AIM. We can talk more about it there. I am glad it arrived safely

Josh

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 03:17 PM
It's equally likely they were disposed of I suppose. Regardless, we've got numbers in collectors hands between 0001XX - 0009XX, that would seem to indiciate that, at most, 1000 were printed. But only a few dozen have come to light. Read into that what you will.



As long as there is an even spread of the #s among collectors hands I would say the possibility of a hoard is less likely (although still possible). I'd consider it more likely if there was a giant block like say #s 0-500 without a single copy in that block accounted for.

Sure, we know about 1000 printed with far less than that turning up so far. But is it really any different than say the NWCs? 26 golds aren't accounted for. Not all the #d greys are acccounted for per the serial #s. Etc. In both cases, probably some tossed and probably some hiding in attics, I would think.

TheRedEye
06-05-2006, 05:22 PM
I had a sealed one and then I sold it, giving me about 2" more space in my closet.

jbholio
06-05-2006, 07:06 PM
Aye....I did :) Jbholio has the #514 cart pic on his website but I don't know if it's his or not. If it is, maybe he will sell it to me so mine will all match up.

No, it's not mine :/ I got the pic from TSR Nes Archive

LINK (http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/odd/scans/myriad.html)

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 10:04 PM
In any case, it's #190.

We're siblings. I checked out my # - its 191.

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 10:04 PM
In any case, it's #190.

We're siblings. I checked out my # - its 191.

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 10:05 PM
In any case, it's #190.

We're siblings. I checked out my # - its 191.

Bronty-2
06-05-2006, 10:11 PM
In any case, it's #190.

Looks like we're next door neighbors, I checked and am 191.

Bronty-2
06-06-2006, 12:10 AM
In any case, it's #190. I haven't heard of any collectors with a lower number, but I've seen a picture of one with a lower number.

Turns out we are neighbors... I checked mine, its 191

Hounder
06-06-2006, 10:09 AM
Wow....thanks for the info qixmaster. Interesting. I will do some research on it as well and see what I can come up with. I will probably have to send you an email since I rarely ever get online to chat. And when I do, it's like once in every 5 blue moons.

Player-2 has a complete Myriad and a Myriad cart. He said he going to look to see if he has a thrid cart but it might be a caltron instead. DP wouldn't let me edit my original post for some reason or I would add him to the list. But that's 11 carts found so far (12 if Player-2 finds a 3rd). We can probably account for more gray NWCs than we can Myriads :P

Hounder
06-06-2006, 10:52 AM
Thanks for the info qixmaster. I did a quick search on google and all I found out was that the place where their office use to be is now a bakery called the "Great Harvest Bread Company" :-/ I will definitely have to look into this more.

Bronty-2
06-06-2006, 03:12 PM
blissful - turns out we're neighbors - mine is #191

Hounder
06-06-2006, 03:27 PM
Thanks qixmaster for the info. I did a small research and found out that the place where the company use to be is now a bakery :/

Updated the top list. Seems to me that there are more recorded gray NWCs than Myriad carts :P

DreamTR
06-07-2006, 06:26 PM
Hounder: I might actually have #514. If you got it from Qixmaster, and he got it from fennecfox, and I got my Myriad from fennecfox, then it could be a match! I don't want to sell my games, though= /

Bronty-2
06-07-2006, 08:36 PM
True, but he could buy a loose myriad and give you a little something extra for the #514 and then he gets his complete and you get something for nothing... 8-)

blissfulnoise
06-07-2006, 09:35 PM
In any case, it's #190.

Looks like we're next door neighbors, I checked and am 191.

That's pretty damn odd and definately cool.

Is that the only one you have? Recall where you got it? God knows where mine came from to make it's way to the flea market where I found it.

steveant1636
06-07-2006, 09:58 PM
i have the calton version with the box and book. i have never seen the other one.

Bronty-2
06-07-2006, 10:38 PM
In any case, it's #190.

Looks like we're next door neighbors, I checked and am 191.

That's pretty damn odd and definitely cool.

Is that the only one you have? Recall where you got it? God knows where mine came from to make it's way to the flea market where I found it.

I only have one. Bought on ebay from the same guy as is 'jeffd' on these boards.

Sorry guys about all the multiple posts above.. that damn 'debug' error..

DreamTR
06-07-2006, 11:41 PM
Hounder: I DO have #514! I figured I had to.

What's hilarious is that I tried to purchase the box/manual from Qixmaster, then he SOLD it to you! Anyways...it's because Kevin Gifford gave it to me, and then Qixmaster got the box/manual from him.

Yay.

So what do you want to do about this one?

Qixmaster
06-08-2006, 12:34 AM
Hounder: I DO have #514! I figured I had to.

What's hilarious is that I tried to purchase the box/manual from Qixmaster, then he SOLD it to you! Anyways...it's because Kevin Gifford gave it to me, and then Qixmaster got the box/manual from him.

Yay.

So what do you want to do about this one?

Ain't this a big ol cluster fuck.

Well at least we know where that 000514 cart is now :)

@Jason
your offer was nowhere near what i was looking to get for it.... your box and manual may be forever in the hands of Hounder as he did pay around the price I was trying to get.

Might want to offer a little higher next time.

Mystery solved.

FYI, you can buy the box and manual for 700 out of Hounders store methinks.

@Hounder
I called the Bread store the same day you posted this thread and left a message. I haven't heard back. You have any luck? NGD and I are looking into the myriad company and have made quite a few more phone calls to city officials and all with no dice. It seems as if they were pretty much non-existant.

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 12:51 AM
FYI, you can buy the box and manual for 700 out of Hounders store methinks.
.

Yeowch.

nationgamesdepot
06-08-2006, 01:45 AM
I have number 570. Does anyone happen to know where the box and manual for it are? I think maybe Gundam has them.
~~NGD

DreamTR
06-08-2006, 02:31 AM
Qixmaster: I never received a counteroffer, I did not really know what to offer for the thing. It was half of what Hounder bought it for, and he is trying to get 60% more than what he paid for it from you. Is everyone about reselling these days? Anyways, here is a pic of 514.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i217/DreamTR/PDC_0822.jpg

Speedy_NES
06-08-2006, 07:13 AM
It was half of what Hounder bought it for, and he is trying to get 60% more than what he paid for it from you. Is everyone about reselling these days?

I'm pretty sure he just put it in his eBay store to attract attention, not with the intent to sell ;)

Speaking of the Myriad and prices, what do you experts consider to be the current value for a sealed Myriad? I'm contemplating putting mine up for sale - I'd much rather have a bunch of rare accessories in my collection than a stored away sealed game ;)

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 11:57 AM
60% more


Am I to understand the box and manual went for 400?

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 12:19 PM
current value for a sealed Myriad?

I would think its tough to say. The 'value' of something like this depends quite a bit on timing and on who's bidding, I would think. That said, I bought mine not that long ago, a year max. At that time loose myriads were already getting 500ish on ebay. I got my sealed for 710. No real reason to think its gone up much since then as loose carts have remained stable. The market for rare nes stuff in general has been strong, so maybe it's gone up a bit but I don't think you're going to get a new car with it or anything.

Also, I would expect that the value of a complete and a sealed are pretty much the same on today's market. None of the underbidders when I bought mine were 'sealed collectors' they were just 'nes collectors.' Doesn't seem to be much of a 'sealed premium' on this game because the price is already up there. I only know of four people that have ever paid over 1k for a sealed nes game, and none of those collectors would be interested, so I think it would be 'complete collectors' buying your game, meaning the price you'd get would probably be the price of a complete. But you never know. You could get significantly more or less depending on timing.

I might consider picking up your copy as trade bait unless you need the money immediately (I have too many other deals on the go). If you can wait a bit and if the price isn't outrageous I might go for it - pm me if you're interested.

DreamTR
06-08-2006, 01:06 PM
I think Hounder paid 300 for the box and the manual.

He has not contacted me yet, so I don't know what is going on....

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 01:31 PM
then he's asking for 133% more than he paid. ;)

DreamTR
06-08-2006, 02:05 PM
Bronty: LOL!

Well, all I know is, if I am going to trade this minty cart away, I had better get another Myriad back, AND some boxes or $$$ for my trouble...

What's stupid is that this is really a label variation. The game is the same as Caltron, just different paperwork and a sticker.

Jumpman Jr.
06-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Speedy NES - Pm sent 8-)
Don't you dare pm him, Bronty :P

Hounder
06-08-2006, 02:57 PM
Wow....sorry guys. That whole debug error was going on and I haven't looked at this thread in a few days.

That's amazing that you have that cart dreamTR! Wow....that was fast finding too! I paid $365 for the box and manual. Player-2 offered to sell me a myriad cart if he had an extra otherwise he does of a CIB copy for sale. As for the price in my store, I had no intention on selling it. That's why I placed it so high. I was actually hoping someone would see it and have the cart for me to buy with the same number.

DreamTR if you want the box and manual, you could always send me an offer since you don't want to sell your cart. I could then put that towards the CIB copy player-2 offered me :) Just a thought. I need this game complete to go with my complete complete collection (box, cart, manual).

Qix - I haven't had any luck at all. No response from the emails I sent out. I might have to call some numbers and find out that way. I hate talking on the phone (even to my mom and family members). I'm not at all the phone person. But if that's the only way to get info then I might just have to do it.

Bronty - I think the value of a complete and sealed copy are pretty similar. The difference has been only about $50-$100 from what I've seen. I really think the price of this game is going to go up though. It's just getting harder to find as time passes because they are all landing in collector's hands and other collector's are willing to pay out the butt for it. That's why I picked up Qixmaster's box and manual. Just in case prices did go up for a CIB copy, all I would have to do is buy the game.

DreamTR
06-08-2006, 03:33 PM
Christ, $365????

Yikes, I don't think I can afford that one!

Hounder: I would suggest finding me a loose one to trade me. I DO want that box/manual, but $365 is a bit much to me.

Speedy_NES
06-08-2006, 03:43 PM
I would think its tough to say. The 'value' of something like this depends quite a bit on timing and on who's bidding, I would think. That said, I bought mine not that long ago, a year max. At that time loose myriads were already getting 500ish on ebay. I got my sealed for 710. No real reason to think its gone up much since then as loose carts have remained stable. The market for rare nes stuff in general has been strong, so maybe it's gone up a bit but I don't think you're going to get a new car with it or anything.

Also, I would expect that the value of a complete and a sealed are pretty much the same on today's market. None of the underbidders when I bought mine were 'sealed collectors' they were just 'nes collectors.' Doesn't seem to be much of a 'sealed premium' on this game because the price is already up there. I only know of four people that have ever paid over 1k for a sealed nes game, and none of those collectors would be interested, so I think it would be 'complete collectors' buying your game, meaning the price you'd get would probably be the price of a complete. But you never know. You could get significantly more or less depending on timing.

I might consider picking up your copy as trade bait unless you need the money immediately (I have too many other deals on the go). If you can wait a bit and if the price isn't outrageous I might go for it - pm me if you're interested.
Thanks - I agree with you, there doesn't seem to be much of a premium for sealed vs. complete, but on the other hand there haven't been enough for sale in the [recent] past to get an accurate pricing, so timing really is everything like you said. I'm in no hurry to sell it, so I may just take offers and go for the highest bidder or end up putting it up on eBay when I feel the time is right. I'm not planning on holding it for anyone in particular, so for the time being if anybody is interested they can always shoot me a pm with an offer and I'll take it into consideration.

Hounder
06-08-2006, 03:44 PM
I had to go that high because someone else offered a bunch of money for it as well and I wanted them. That was the highest I could go and Josh took it. Once I buy the game, then I will have a copy I put $965 into :/ Player-2 said if he had another loose one he would sell it to me for $600. If I can get a hold of it, then I will let you know. Only thing is it won't be until after August. I got to start saving money for my trip to Europe and spending $600 on a game right now would put me into the hole.

Dream, we could work out another deal with maybe a proto of some sort and some $$$. That way I could have some kind of money to put into the CIB copy that Player has. Let me know.

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 03:49 PM
What's stupid is that this is really a label variation. The game is the same as Caltron, just different paperwork and a sticker.

I don't really agree with you there. ;) That's pretty much like calling stadium events a label variation of athletic world; its true at some level but it kind of goes beyond that also.

Hounder
06-08-2006, 03:53 PM
Well, that's what stadium events is really. Just so happens that it has a different title screen than Athletic World as where the Myriad has the same as the Caltron. It's just the fact that both carts were released in extremely small numbers making them very scarce and hard to get (plus pricey).

Bronty, are you the one with the sealed F2? I've been wondering for a while now. I know someone has it but not sure who.

Speedy_NES
06-08-2006, 03:57 PM
It's just the fact that both carts were released in extremely small numbers making them very scarce and hard to get (plus pricey).
I think it's primarily due to them being distributed by different companies that makes them so different from normal label/packaging variations.

By the way guys, SE is the same as World Class Track Meet, not Athletic World, but I'm sure you guys knew that already ;)

DreamTR
06-08-2006, 03:57 PM
Bronty: it's not the same as Stadium Events, that at LEAST has a different title screen, per what Hounder says. This is an unlicensed title with labels slapped ON existing Caltron labels, and boxes/manuals made up for it.

Hounder: proto and cash might do it. Depends on what you want. Send me a PM, or hit me on AIM as DreamTR. But I do want the box/manual reunited!

Hounder
06-08-2006, 04:01 PM
PM sent. I don't have AIM otherwise I'd look you up there.

DreamTR
06-08-2006, 04:09 PM
PM replied to! You should get AIM, or MSN, or something!

Michiganfan2
06-08-2006, 04:30 PM
I have been busy and not around much lately.

My Myriad is #00046.

We know Myriad sold Caltron's old stock. Is it possible that Caltron had their carts numbered somehow and Myriad used Caltron's exsisting numbers?

Say Caltron had a handfull of mixed numbers laying around and Myriad took them a relabeled them using the same numbers. That would explain the absence of low numbered carts since Caltron would have sold the majority of the early ones.

For instance...
#45 Caltron
#46 Myriad
#47 Caltron

Now, I know the Caltron's are not numbered....perhaps there was some sort of internal numbering system used in the Caltron plant.

You guys have any thoughts on this theory?? Mike

Hounder
06-08-2006, 04:31 PM
Actually I do have MSN but I think the last time I logged into was like 3 months ago. I have Y! messenger too. It's just that I never get online to talk especially since most of the people I have on my lists I see almost everyday so it's kinda pointless to get online and talk to 'em. I do need to get AIM though. So many people on these forums have it and it would probably benefit me at some point and time.

Oh, PM replied too ;)

Speedy_NES
06-08-2006, 04:35 PM
I have been busy and not around much lately.

My Myriad is #00046.

We know Myriad sold Caltron's old stock. Is it possible that Caltron had their carts numbered somehow and Myriad used Caltron's exsisting numbers?

Say Caltron had a handfull of mixed numbers laying around and Myriad took them a relabeled them using the same numbers. That would explain the absence of low numbered carts since Caltron would have sold the majority of the early ones.

For instance...
#45 Caltron
#46 Myriad
#47 Caltron

Now, I know the Caltron's are not numbered....perhaps there was some sort of internal numbering system used in the Caltron plant.

You guys have any thoughts on this theory?? Mike

It's possible, but I don't think that would have been the case, because then the printer would have to be adjusted on a cartridge by cartridge basis, which would be highly inefficient. Even if they had a numbering system in place, how would the printer know which cartridge had which number, unless it were to be operated manually doing one cartridge/copy at a time?

Michiganfan2
06-08-2006, 04:40 PM
If there are less than 100 copies, it wouldn't have taken much time to adjust the numbers. Would just be a matter of swapping out a couple of digits on the printing press.

Of course, this is all purely speculation on my part. I have no facts to back any of this up. However, it's the best guess that I have.

Hounder
06-08-2006, 04:42 PM
That's a good thought Michiganfan2 but I would have to agree with Speedy. Plus apparently Myriad was in this to make a quick buck so I highly doubt they would have done the research to find out which numbers were sold and whatnot. Interesting theory nonetheless.

Also, I think you might have the lowest numbered Myriad cart out there right now. I haven't seen or heard of one lower then 0001XX. Where did you pick your's up?

Michiganfan2
06-08-2006, 04:45 PM
I got mine from Uskater...or skateflip...something like that. I know his real name...not sure on his screen name.

Hounder
06-08-2006, 04:51 PM
Awww.....usk4flip. Pa_nes_ian's friend. Congrats on the complete collection! Now to go for those PAL exclusives ;)

blissfulnoise
06-08-2006, 05:49 PM
Good to know there's a lower number than mine. It is unlikely though that they printed unique labels. As someone who has world with many different types of serialized labels, virtually no company would undergo a manual change like that unless this company was literally in someone's basement and they had time to burn.

It's far more likely that they just did a quick print run of the labels on some kind of sticker stock and slapped them on the Caltron inventory. Any gaps in the serialized numbers are due to unfound carts and not some non-sequential printing on Myraid's part.

It is kind of strange to think that a company bought commercial space for a set-up only to print 1000 (theoretically) NES games. I wonder if Myriad was doing anything else for the NES or otherwise at the time.

The Myriad sure is a mystery. Compounded by the fact that it's actually serialized on the cart, it allows for a lot of speculation. I think it's probably the most interesting cart in the whole NES library. Certainly more interesting than the NWC in terms of its history.

Hounder
06-08-2006, 07:34 PM
The Myriad sure is a mystery. Compounded by the fact that it's actually serialized on the cart, it allows for a lot of speculation. I think it's probably the most interesting cart in the whole NES library. Certainly more interesting than the NWC in terms of its history.
I agree with you. The NWC is interesting but the Myriad interest me so much more since there is SO LITTLE known about it.

Come to think about it, I'm wondering why Myriad decided to buy the Caltron carts in the first place. It's just like they appeared for just a brief moment in history. I wonder if maybe they were in the process of making their own game when the Caltron shut down and they decided that it would save them money by just slapping on a generic label with a generic looking box and manual.

I need to do some more research tonight. I hope that bakery gives Qix a call back. Hopefully, they will have some info. If anything, he could always go to the City Hall there and look up the records. That's probably the only way we're going to find out anything :-/

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 07:42 PM
It is kind of strange to think that a company bought commercial space for a set-up only to print 1000 (theoretically) NES games. I wonder if Myriad was doing anything else for the NES or otherwise at the time.

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I virtually guarantee it. It was probably some guy renting a space for a store of some kind, who heard about the caltron inventory, and slapped together some myriads to try and make a bit of extra cash. The whole "myriad games" address on the back was just to make it look like a legitimate video game company (which it wasn't). This was definitely a guy doing something else for a living.

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 07:51 PM
Bronty: it's not the same as Stadium Events, that at LEAST has a different title screen, per what Hounder says. This is an unlicensed title with labels slapped ON existing Caltron labels, and boxes/manuals made up for it.



I know that. But my point is simply calling MG or SE a 'label variation' doesn't really do either justice - both were released with different names with different contents inside the package, etc. I think of a label variation as a very cosmetic change such as a changed copyright date or seal of approval. SE and myriad had pretty wholesale packaging (and name) changes even if the software itself stayed identical or nearly identical. If it was just a 'label variation' your own cart wouldn't have two labels on it! (as the caltron label is clearly visible under the myriad label, as I'm sure you know).

Hounder
06-08-2006, 08:02 PM
Bronty, does your sealed Myriad have the horizontal seam? Just curious.

As I stated earlier, Myriad was apparently in the business for just a quick buck. As for label variation, I see where you're coming from. Same game and packaging, just a different looking label. I'm suprised that Myriad didn't just slap a sticker over the front of the Caltron box and sell it that way LOL

Bronty-2
06-08-2006, 08:12 PM
Bronty, does your sealed Myriad have the horizontal seam? Just curious.

As I stated earlier, Myriad was apparently in the business for just a quick buck. As for label variation, I see where you're coming from. Same game and packaging, just a different looking label. I'm suprised that Myriad didn't just slap a sticker over the front of the Caltron box and sell it that way LOL

No, only licensed games have the H seam.

I can see the argument too but I think it's an incomplete argument.

Hounder
06-08-2006, 08:18 PM
No, only licensed games have the H seam.

Ok. I had no clue as I don't collect sealed games. Hence, why I asked :).

I'm making a few more contacts on the matter of where Myriad went. Just waiting on some answers now :)