Does this sound like a scam?

[mailman187666]

I recently sold a copy of World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002 on ebay. The woman was saying it was for her husbands anniversary and needed it ASAP. She sent me the money order which I had to sign for I cashed it and all that went fine. She recieved the game and said that the case and manual were ok but i sent her the wrong game. She goes on to say that I sent her a game called Thunder Trucks. So I look up a game thunder trucks for ps2 and there is no such thing. Then, just in case, i check PS1 database to see if there is a thunder trucks for that. To my suprise there is. So not only do I double check and test all my games before sending them out, but the first thing i do upon purchasing them myself is check the bottom of the disk for scratches. Since thunder trucks is for PS1, I would have noticed that the disk is black on the bottom, in which case i would have returned it to the store i bought it from. You guys gotta let me know what you think, have you heard this kinda thing? seems to be maybe a refund/resell scam?

[jajaja]

Tough situation. Are you 110% sure you sent the correct game? No possibilty that something could have been misplaced? How long did you test it? If your 110% sure i would just tell her that i tested the game right before sending it and that it was the correct game.

Altho i cant see why someone would try to scam for a $20 (just a guess) game, but you never know. There are many crazy ppl out there.

[Darren870]

That game is one of the rarest PS2 games, so it probably went for around $50

Id think you would notice a different game, but thats something you have to be sure of.

[mailman187666]

i'm 110% sure that i sent world of outlaws. It actually sells on e-bay for almost $50 used because it is rare. I never owned a game called thunder trucks, so there is no way i could have put the wrong game in the case. I think what they were trying to do is get the game and if i asked them to return it, they were going to send the shitty PS1 game with the PS2 case + instructions, get her $47 + shipping back for the game i sent her, and not only make off with a rare PS2 game for close to nothing, but she could also re-sell it as disk only for a quick extra $30. If you think about it, anybody could buy a rare/costly USED game off e-bay, claim the seller sent the wrong disk, put in a $2 POS game in its place and get a refund for the original purchase to begin with. I am positive i sent the correct game because i check for these things before selling them to make sure i don't have to deal with this type of thing. Plus her trying to say its Thunder Trucks (a black bottom PS1 game) I woulda noticed right away when checking for scratches.

[Kitsune Sniper]

And this is why when I take pictures of various game items, I ALWAYS take pictures of the discs as well. Might as well play it on the safe side, you know?

[jajaja]

Thunder Truck Rally is indeed a fairly cheap game.

Ebay Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8291759664)

This was relisted and dropped from $7.99 to $6.99, still no buyers. I would just tell her that i never had a game called Thunder Truck Rally so its not possible.

[mailman187666]

yeah i would have definately noticed if it were a different game. I check everything before shipping. Plus i never owned a Thunder Truck Rally game for any tuck game for that matter. I say scam all the way. I will always take seperate pictures of my items from this point on though.

[MichaeltheGreat]

check their recent purchases on ebay to make sure it's not an obvious scam... :)

[jajaja]

That game is one of the rarest PS2 games, so it probably went for around $50

Are you sure this is one of the rarest games for PS2? I see there have been sold over 90 copies on Ebay within the last 30 days. Almost all range around $50 tho :)

[Griking]

That game is one of the rarest PS2 games, so it probably went for around $50

Id think you would notice a different game, but thats something you have to be sure of.

Does it really sell for that much? I always assumed that it was one of those games that were rare but nobody gave a shit about.

[mailman187666]

now I got another e-mail from them after I called them out and they said the game I sent is now called "Thunder Tanks". World Destruction League: Thunder Tanks. That is definately in no way the game i sent them. They said they would send me a picture to show me what i sent but they could just take thier copy of "thunder tanks" and put it in the case i sent them. I only sell 2-3 games at a time on e-bay, so i think i would have noticed a mistake like that. So nobody has heard of a scam like this? claiming that you sent the wrong disk and asking for a refund? then you end up basically paying 4x the amount for thier game they sent back in your case? she is even threatening to call the police in my home town on me. So listen everybody, if you want to get rid of your outdated madden games and pick up a used copy of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, just pay for it and ask for a refund with your madden in thier M VS C 2 case. OR tell them to send you the correct copy instead of a refund and you can get 2 M VS C 2s.

Some of these people out there have no better ways of earning an honest pay that they have to screw other people over in order to survive....I think they should be shot

[kevin_psx]

she is even threatening to call the police in my home town on me.

Can't see anyway out of this. If she paid paypal or credit card they'll just refund the money-- believing she's telling the truth.

[jajaja]

Keep all e-mails. She first said she recived 1 game, then changed the description to a whole other game. This is evidence that she is lying. About the police, that laughable, but not very fun to hear.

[exit]

she is even threatening to call the police in my home town on me.

Calling the police over e-bay? That's a new one. The most she can do is file a dispute, which will backfire now that she has 2 different stories. You really have nothing to worry about, except that she might give you a negative.

[mailman187666]

yeah I think the worst that can come from it is a negetive feedback mark but I think the two different titles she came up with is my key to not getting screwed. I haven't sold that many games so far because I'm just starting to get into it. Well I just want to let everybody know who sells used games on e-bay to watch out for this kind of thing, another scam thats been seen through. No use selling a $50 game and giving a refund only to get a copy of madden 02 or something like that back.

[Darren870]

That game is one of the rarest PS2 games, so it probably went for around $50

Are you sure this is one of the rarest games for PS2? I see there have been sold over 90 copies on Ebay within the last 30 days. Almost all range around $50 tho :)

I would say so yes, I mean there arn't that many rare ps2 games to begin with. Maybe what 10? Its not rare as some of them, but id say in the top 10. However, don't forget were talking about ps2 still, not NES. The cap for ps2 games would probably be R6 with this being an R5.

[animallyson]

the only way she'll get her money back is if she sends the game back within the alloted time frame-last time I had someone try to scam me, they didn't send it back, so paypal refused to give them their money back.

[jajaja]

That game is one of the rarest PS2 games, so it probably went for around $50

Are you sure this is one of the rarest games for PS2? I see there have been sold over 90 copies on Ebay within the last 30 days. Almost all range around $50 tho :)

I would say so yes, I mean there arn't that many rare ps2 games to begin with. Maybe what 10? Its not rare as some of them, but id say in the top 10. However, don't forget were talking about ps2 still, not NES. The cap for ps2 games would probably be R6 with this being an R5.

Ye, indeed. Altho, ~90 auctions in 30 days is like 3 auctions with this game everyday. If not rare, its atleast very sough after, considering it sells for around $50. Possibly within the top 10 as you said.

[Darren870]

exactly which is like every rare game on the ps2. Id imagine there isn't a month that goes by where the rarest ps2 does not appear on ebay.

[unbroken]

I would'nt worry about it. Her calling the police is a bunch of bull shit to scare you into giving her a refund, don't do it. I would say ignore the emails, and suck it up and take a negi.

[mailman187666]

yeah, I mean even if there is a chance that the wrong game was in the case (which i know it wasn't) I don't think I would chance it anyways in case it was somebody trying to scam me. In this situation I'll be more than happy to take the negetive and continue selling legitimately like I have been doing. Can't let one person ruin it for me.

[Raspberry Heaven]

Don't worry too much about the negative. A lot of sellers have a few negatives, but that still doesn't prevent other people from buying from them and having a good experience. I can't think of any seller I've bought from that has 100% positive feedback.

[mailman187666]

yeah I finally got the negetive feedback and she said "police are involved, do not buy from." It just sucks cause it makes me look like a criminal when in reality all I'm doing is selling a couple games here and there when I pick them up for cheap. I'm definately an honest seller and know I would have noticed it being the wrong game. Maybe if I had over 100 games listed at a time an error like that could have occured. Oh well, I know that the rest of my feedbacks are going to be positive (as long as i don't run into any buyers that are hard to deal with, they are out there.) I don't see what the police could actually do because there is no way to prove that she didn't just put one of her own games in the case to say thats what i sent her. Well, just have to wait and see if there is any knocking at my door.

[Darren870]

did you follow up with a neg? How about responding to that feedback?

[Jed]

I had a similar situation happen to me a couple years ago. I don't remember the game in question, but it was a PSX game. Someone bought said game for something like $30. I send it. I get a threatening email a few days later saying that I sent them the Greatest Hits version, which, of course, I didn't. I don't get what the big scam was, since at the time I remember the game in question still being worth something as GH (possibly Symphony of the Night, but I don't remember). Was he trying to get an original and offload his GH, and make like $5 on it? Seemed like a lot of hassle over nothing, but I played along and just sold the GH one when I got it back, and still made close to what I should've.

Unfortunately, there's really no way to prove what you're sending. I'm actually surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more often, since the buyers will get their way almost all the time. It's sickening when you think about all the different ways you can scam someone, and get away with it like nothing happened. And in today's society, it's even more sickening when you think of just how many people will do it.

[mailman187666]

It's sickening when you think about all the different ways you can scam someone, and get away with it like nothing happened. And in today's society, it's even more sickening when you think of just how many people will do it.

Its true, being a buyer or a seller on ebay is risky. Switching games that you want to unload for rarer/more expensive games are the easiest thing to do. And when you are a new seller like myself, people tend to believe you don't know whats going on yet and try to take advantage of that. I think this was what happened in my case. Trying to unload a $10 disk for a $40 disk at my expense. I wish there weren't so many scammers on ebay. I think the best way to save yourself from getting people's unwanted games in exchange for your game is to tell people in your listing that there are no returns or refunds on the item because it has been thoroughly tested and checked and is gaurenteed to work. Maybe you'll lose out on a few bids from cautious bidders, but you'll be saving yourself the hassle of somebody saying whatever you sold them wasn't right and it could do away with a bunch of the used game scams that could be out there.