Why would anyone want the old DS?

[Anthony1]

You know everything about the DS lite is pretty sweet. Never even remotely considered getting a DS until I heard about the new version. Still haven't purchased one, but when it hits $99.99 I'll likely grab one.


But regarding the original version. Considering the bulkyness of it, and the not as bright screens.... Will anybody really want the old one? I'm guessing if anybody wants to sell a old style DS, they are going to have to take a pretty big hit on it, cause any money spend on the old bulky version is money that could have gone towards the redesign.


Of course if you've had a DS lite for sometime, and are perfectly happy with it, then no worries I guess. Just keep on banging away on that bulky beast!

[Kevin Listwan]

I think it is sort of like the GBA vs. GBS SP with less of a difference between the two in regards to the DS.

[kentuckyfried]

I'd want the old DS if it were cheap, or because of the fact that I already have the old DS and mine is too beat up to sell really.

[Leo_A]

Because the first DS isn't really that much larger than the new model, even though they've made some nice changes to make it smaller and have a better weight distribution. It still has a nice screen, even if its not as good as the bright screens on the SP2, Micro, and DS2.

Plus you have to realize just how many casual gamers are aware of the new model of the DS, not many at all at first compared to the percentage of people like us that are. You're going to have people like EB pushing the old model to mom who wants to buy a DS for a birthday gift and such until they sell their remaining inventory. And a lot of people that are aware of the brighter screens of something like the Micro believed they were the same screens the original DS had, so unless someone sees some promotion or ask a EB employee or Wal-Mart employee to look at the box beforehand, will they know the DS lite has better screens?

And I'm not sure why you're concerned with trade in value for a used handheld for. Not many people will be trading theirs in for the new model I bet. If DS's start breaking, we'll see people upgrading much in the same manner people have purchased slim-line models of the PS2 to replace ones that have developed problems. Fuctionally, they're the same more or less, so I only see current DS owners like those at this board upgrading right now.

[Anthony1]

Well yeah, I guess the uninformed will still buy the old DS. But If I was trying to unload a old DS, I would get started on it right away.


In a way though, if you sell a DS 1, to somebody with no knowledge of the DS2, you are kinda scamming the dude in away. But I guess nobody put a gun to the dude's head forcing him to buy your old DS1, but still, you know'll you'll feel a little bit guilty about it. It was like the time that I sold my Sega Saturn. I knew the Saturn was totally dead, and this dad and his son came over, and they asked me if I thought the Saturn would survive, and I told them, "oh yeah, the Saturn is really strong, it will survive no problem". They paid too much for it, and I felt pretty bad knowing I sold them a system that was about to die. That's not the same as the DS scenario at all, but still, you get the idea. Of course, if that Dad and the kid new how to import Saturn games from Japan they would be set, but they wouldn't have known an import from a hole in the ground.

[Xizer]

In a way though, if you sell a DS 1, to somebody with no knowledge of the DS2, you are kinda scamming the dude in away. But I guess nobody put a gun to the dude's head forcing him to buy your old DS1, but still, you know'll you'll feel a little bit guilty about it..

Umm, no I won't. I have no qualms with "scamming" the stupid.

It just comes with the territory. If I tricked someone into buying a DS1 for more than it's worth I reckon I'd be pretty pleased with myself. I once sold Smashing Drive (GameCube) to someone for a full $50. The game sucks. LOL

Then there was the time someone paid me $40 for 3 shitty SNES sports titles. LOL

[Leo_A]

As long as you don't mislead them like saying what you did about the Saturn, I'd have no worries.

[JJNova]

Umm, no I won't. I have no qualms with "scamming" the stupid.

It just comes with the territory. If I tricked someone into buying a DS1 for more than it's worth I reckon I'd be pretty pleased with myself. I once sold Smashing Drive (GameCube) to someone for a full $50. The game sucks. LOL

Then there was the time someone paid me $40 for 3 shitty SNES sports titles. LOL


I remember, just two short years ago, when this was place for gamers to come, look out for one another, and chit chat about games. I remember when we used to brag about how many friends we got into video games and classic collecting.

All you people that invited your friends to DP. I hope you die. Look what you did to this place.

A good reason to keep the Old DS is if you are left handed, as I am. Although there is only one game I know that causes a problem for lefties, it's a damn good game that all people should play. There is a portion in Castlevanis where you have to go from holding down on the dpad, to breaking ice crystals with the stylus. Being lefthanded means you have to stop ducking, break the ice, and duck again with the same hand. With the stylus being stored under the right hand in the DS Lite, that would make the manuever near impossible your first time coming to the obstacle.

Another reason to keep an DS Fat is if you keep your handheld console in your pocket. The power switch on the side of the console may get flipped while being placed in, or pulled out. The last reason, is for people like me that play with the joints of their thumbs placed on the buttons instead of with their fingertips. The DS Lite is substantially smaller, and the top screen causes interferance with my finger placement.

And the last but not least reason to keep a DS Fat. Because you already own one, and your wife put dibs on the DS Lite. So now when we are sitting in the living room, getting into a furious game of Tetris DS, and I lose, I blame it on her having a brighter, clearer screen and rounder, bigger buttons. :)

[Ed Oscuro]

All you people that invited your friends to DP. I hope you die. Look what you did to this place.
I invited Bloodreign and Airraid...so it's a bit of a draw, on that count.

[Sothy]

why dont you just marry the ds JJnova

[swlovinist]

Two reasons to buy an original:


1. If it was very cheap
2. Multiple units for multiplayer


Due to many carts being able to do multiplayer off of one cart. The DS fat could be a great backup.

[Jasoco]

I believe in Karma, so there's no way I would talk someone into getting an older one without listing the drawbacks. Last thing I need is someone coming back to me all mad that I didn't tell them about the new one or something.

I didn't get to be department manager by lying to customers.

Besides, in time people will still buy our leftover stock. And the ones that don't sell will eventually come down to $10 clearanced like the Final Fantasy XI w/ HD that finally dropped again today. (Check your local Kmarts!)

[THATinkjar]

I think that the original DS could perhaps be the more suitable of the two for young children. It is very robust, as we know, and has a more toy-like look to it. I mean, it also feels pretty cheap and tacky when compared to the Lite.

Any Lite owners with kids, who want to get them on the gaming bandwagon, may well get them the original DS. Or if they already have a DS, they would probably pass it down the family tree when they buy a Lite.

That is what I think, anyway.

[Oobgarm]

I prefer the larger one due to the size of it. My long fingers don't enjoy extended play sessions with the Lite.

I'm not willing to trade off brightness for comfort.

[Cirrus]

As you can see on the front page of DP today, there is homebrew for the DS. (Quake for the DS, for instance)

The best way of playing this kinda stuff involves flashing your firmware (which is pretty difficult).

On the DS Lite, it's still possible, but incredibly easy to mess up, which causes your system to be a brick.

On the old one, it's very easy, and then you can play Quake on your DS! And Monkey Island games, and Maniac Mansion games, etc, etc. (There really is a ton.) So, the original DS is much better (and safer!) for homebrew.

[geneshifter]

LIke a previous poster, the old DS feels better in my big hands. Also, I ALWAYS keep a GBA cart in mine and the fact that they stick out on the Lite is a deal breaker for me.

[FantasiaWHT]

I was just going to say that about the GBA carts too. That's just annoying, and it gets in the way.

But I also have to agree with the person who's wife has dibs on the Lite; that's how it is in my house! Let the wife have the shiny pretty one hehe.

[Trebuken]

Yeah big hands and durability (the Lite is to white, will get discoloered). Thee were my responses to, but that screen is so bright that I'll keep my eyes open for a preowned on anyways...never got the newest GBA SP just for it's brighter screen though...

Later,
Trebuen

[poloplayr]

Well, for completists some games react differently when you pop them into an old DS and a DS lite...just check Mario Kart DS...the greeting by Mario is different when you start the game.

[FullCircle]

I like the DS better than the DS lite simply because of mic placement. In many games that have you use the microphone, you can't see the bottom screen when you're up close to the mic on the DS Lite. With the DS, you can still see both screens.

[gamegirl79]

I'm keeping the fatty DS for a few reasons:

-Multiplayer Mario Kart, Brain Age, etc.

-I flashed the firmware on my DS1 so I can play homebrew. I don't feel comfortable flashing the DS Lite just yet, even though many have had success with it.

-Collection purposes. I enjoy collecting handhelds and have a very difficult time giving them up.

[heybtbm]

Who the hell wants a white handheld? I can imagine the new DS looking dirty and yellowed after a few weeks. I think I'll wait for another color.

[THATinkjar]

Is it me, or are some of you looking for excuses not to buy a Lite? Anyone who has played both would be hard pushed to recommend the original.


Well, for completists some games react differently when you pop them into an old DS and a DS lite...just check Mario Kart DS...the greeting by Mario is different when you start the game.

Was that confirmed? I read some comments here and there that suggested it had nothing to do with the DS Lite, but was based on your progress in the game, or the first time it is played on a new DS, etc. I just don't know what to believe, and I'm too lazy to try it for myself!

[gamegirl79]

Well, for completists some games react differently when you pop them into an old DS and a DS lite...just check Mario Kart DS...the greeting by Mario is different when you start the game.

Was that confirmed? I read some comments here and there that suggested it had nothing to do with the DS Lite, but was based on your progress in the game, or the first time it is played on a new DS, etc. I just don't know what to believe, and I'm too lazy to try it for myself!

I can confirm that there IS a different greeting at the beginning of Mario Kart. My guess would be that it happens when played on a new/different DS (Lite or not), but I haven't done any research to back that up. I had not made any new progress in the game so it's not because of that.

[NE146]

"Why"? Come on man this is DP. The land of COLLECTORS LOL

Hell this is the place where it's not uncommon for someone to have the original GB, and every other iteration afterward. :P I know I do :hmm:

I do hope to pick up a Lite this week. We'll see if I can find it.

[geneshifter]

Is it me, or are some of you looking for excuses not to buy a Lite? Anyone who has played both would be hard pushed to recommend the original.

I have played both and, no, I really do not like the new one, sorry. The fact that my GBA carts stick out nullifies one of the reasons I liked the DS in the first place. The new screens are better but having the carts stick out kills functionality for me. I'll wait for another revision. Of course, if you guys don't play much GBA games, the new DS would be a better choice.

[Oobgarm]

Is it me, or are some of you looking for excuses not to buy a Lite? Anyone who has played both would be hard pushed to recommend the original.

I've put some time in on both, and I still enjoy the older one. The brighter screens are super nice, but being uncomfortable while playing just isn't good.

I'm not looking for reasons-besides, I don't see a need to drop $120 on a system I already have.

[Muscelli]

Well, for completists some games react differently when you pop them into an old DS and a DS lite...just check Mario Kart DS...the greeting by Mario is different when you start the game.

Was that confirmed? I read some comments here and there that suggested it had nothing to do with the DS Lite, but was based on your progress in the game, or the first time it is played on a new DS, etc. I just don't know what to believe, and I'm too lazy to try it for myself!

I can confirm that there IS a different greeting at the beginning of Mario Kart. My guess would be that it happens when played on a new/different DS (Lite or not), but I haven't done any research to back that up. I had not made any new progress in the game so it's not because of that.

ah it actually depends if there is a gba game in the bottom slot, thats what I have been hearing anyway

[THATinkjar]

Well, for completists some games react differently when you pop them into an old DS and a DS lite...just check Mario Kart DS...the greeting by Mario is different when you start the game.

Was that confirmed? I read some comments here and there that suggested it had nothing to do with the DS Lite, but was based on your progress in the game, or the first time it is played on a new DS, etc. I just don't know what to believe, and I'm too lazy to try it for myself!

I can confirm that there IS a different greeting at the beginning of Mario Kart. My guess would be that it happens when played on a new/different DS (Lite or not), but I haven't done any research to back that up. I had not made any new progress in the game so it's not because of that.

ah it actually depends if there is a gba game in the bottom slot, thats what I have been hearing anyway

Could that hint at a GBA add-on with some new tracks? That would be awesome :)

[exit]

I'll stick with my heavy DS, mainly because I don't like the way the DS Lite looks. People may say it looks "slim and sexy", but to me it looks like if it falls it breaks. Plus the GBA cart sticking out is a turn off, I only own one GBA game and I'd rather keep it in my DS instead of misplacing it.

[Jasoco]

ah it actually depends if there is a gba game in the bottom slot, thats what I have been hearing anywayNope. Not true. I just confirmed the sound stays the same whether there's a cart, no cart or the slot protector.

I am actually curious now. I wonder what other games do different stuff. Would have to be newer games released after Nintendo started working on the Lite.

[kentuckyfried]

Got to spend some quality time my friend's DS lite yesterday, Wow is it ever bright and sexy.

It looks like a really small ibook with that lucite and all ;)

[kentuckyfried]

In a way though, if you sell a DS 1, to somebody with no knowledge of the DS2, you are kinda scamming the dude in away. But I guess nobody put a gun to the dude's head forcing him to buy your old DS1, but still, you know'll you'll feel a little bit guilty about it..

Umm, no I won't. I have no qualms with "scamming" the stupid.

It just comes with the territory. If I tricked someone into buying a DS1 for more than it's worth I reckon I'd be pretty pleased with myself. I once sold Smashing Drive (GameCube) to someone for a full $50. The game sucks. LOL

Then there was the time someone paid me $40 for 3 shitty SNES sports titles. LOL

Remind me not to respect you, ok?

[Jasoco]

In a way though, if you sell a DS 1, to somebody with no knowledge of the DS2, you are kinda scamming the dude in away. But I guess nobody put a gun to the dude's head forcing him to buy your old DS1, but still, you know'll you'll feel a little bit guilty about it..

Umm, no I won't. I have no qualms with "scamming" the stupid.

It just comes with the territory. If I tricked someone into buying a DS1 for more than it's worth I reckon I'd be pretty pleased with myself. I once sold Smashing Drive (GameCube) to someone for a full $50. The game sucks. LOL

Then there was the time someone paid me $40 for 3 shitty SNES sports titles. LOL

Remind me not to respect you, ok?I agree. It's people like Xizer that make me hate humanity sometimes. :/

Scratch that. Despise humanity.

Add to that everything JJNova said on page 1.

[diskoboy]

To awnser the original poster - I think the only reason you'd want an old DS is because it's cheaper.

That would be the only reason I could think of.

Makes me glad I held out until the Lite.

[Daria]

Obviously if I wasn't already a DS owner I'd buy a DS Lite over the original. But I already have the system and don't think the improvements really warrent buying a replacement. Sure it's smaller but I never complained about the size before. And yes the screen's brighter but I never thought the original was too dark.

Eventually I will buy a new DS though, if only because I broke the hinge on mine. It's playable but wobbly.

[boatofcar]

I didn't buy the original DS because the ABXY buttons seemed too small. The buttons on the Lite feel better to me. Anybody like the ABXY buttons on the original DS better?

[LiquidX01]

I remember, just two short years ago, when this was place for gamers to come, look out for one another, and chit chat about games. I remember when we used to brag about how many friends we got into video games and classic collecting.

All you people that invited your friends to DP. I hope you die. Look what you did to this place.

You got that right. I stopped posting long ago and went strictly to reading posts on here because I noticed a huge change between member interactions here.

A few of the regulars even began having daily PMS for some of the most tarded reasons... None at me directly, but the point still stands.

Not quite sure what happened here for sure, but it was noticable long ago and it keeps getting worse.

This was one of my favorite places to talk about games for quite awhile, until in turned into a "Retro Gamefaq's".

[Nesmaster]

About the mariokart thing, I heard it too, but I just thought I was crazy LOL.

[THATinkjar]

I remember, just two short years ago, when this was place for gamers to come, look out for one another, and chit chat about games. I remember when we used to brag about how many friends we got into video games and classic collecting.

All you people that invited your friends to DP. I hope you die. Look what you did to this place.

You got that right. I stopped posting long ago and went strictly to reading posts on here because I noticed a huge change between member interactions here.

A few of the regulars even began having daily PMS for some of the most tarded reasons... None at me directly, but the point still stands.

Not quite sure what happened here for sure, but it was noticable long ago and it keeps getting worse.

This was one of my favorite places to talk about games for quite awhile, until in turned into a "Retro Gamefaq's".

I only joined DP a little over a year ago... so I very much hope I'm not part of this group of people that have ruined DP in your eyes.

Personally, I love this place. This is the first - and only - forum I have settled at. It is the only place I post regularly. I don't know what it is... but there is something pretty wonderful about this place. So many people put so much time and effort into the various aspects of DP, and I guess that love just rubs off a little on me.

But even since I have been here, I've noticed the place change a little. The forums went through the whole "post as much news as you can find" phase... which did start to irk me. But other than that, I just freakin' love this place - and most of you guys!

[Cryomancer]

Because I like my machines to look like machines. AKA I like the old design. Perfect? No. Better than new model? Visually, yes.

That and I already have it and have had it since launch basically and it ain't fuckin broke.

[zerohero]

Well I've had the DS before the DS light was confirmed, and I'm not going to rush out, and buy a DS lite just because its more improved. I don't have the cash for it. Heck I'm not going to trade it in, and have to pay 70 extra bucks for a lite. The lite can wait untile the price is right.

[Jasoco]

It's a shame there are people who will try anything to scam someone..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C19dBk32xjs

Fortunately that guy was smarter than the employee's thought he was.

(I bet that GameStop employee was our friend "Xizer".)