My $1200.00 snipe was rejected like a bad jump shot

[Buyatari]

Not even close

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=104752013971

[Kitsune Sniper]

O_O

HAY ZEUS FARKIN' KAY RHISTE!

[ProgrammingAce]

i knew the game was expensive... but that's pretty harsh

and out of curiosity, how many copies of nintendo power #1 do you have?

[drewbrim]

Wow! I've never even heard of this one. Does this/did this sell for more than video life or magicard? How much would those go for on the bay?

[Darren870]

and out of curiosity, how many copies of nintendo power #1 do you have?

Hahahaha, id have to ask the same and then why?

[Bronty-2]

Judging by the bidding and your snipe, I take it $1000 would be 'normal' for this?

[Steven]

HOLY SMOKES!!! @_@

And I got one lying around in the attic collecting dust!

J/K I wish LOL

[Bronty-2]

Didn't the last air raid end at a similar #?

does this show how far tooth protectors has climbed or how far air raid has fallen? I.e. are other grail like atari items climbing quite a bit or just steady?

[Buyatari]

Air Raid is on the way down never to recover. This one went really high but there hasn't been another on ebay in along time. I would think the next one would sell for 1500-1800.

[atari_wizard]

Wow! I've never even heard of this one. Does this/did this sell for more than video life or magicard? How much would those go for on the bay?

No, the loose Tooth Protector carts go for 80 to 130 dollars average. This came in a styrofoam container, which had a paper band around the outside of the container. There are very few containers and even less with the strip. I would consider a styrofoam container without the strip to be CIB, considering how incredibly rare it would be to score a strip one.

[tom]

And it has instructions

[atari_wizard]

And it has instructions

yes, instructions is a must for a complete copy. I was just talking about the strip and non strip. :)

[bunbunz23]

Intresting...it is amazing how much of an difference a loose or complete copy of a game can fetch on Ebay.

[Synergy]

Wow. O_O

Funny, I just learned about this game a couple days ago reading up on some of the Atari 2600's history. I knew this cart was going to be "one of those", but....geez. O_O

My face pretty much looked like bunbunz's avatar when I first clicked that link.

[Jumpman Jr.]

How often do you see that Wonder guy get beat?
Anybody know who the seller is?

[DreamTR]

To be honest, I don't care how much of a hardcore collector you are, a freaking styrofoam container? Seriously. Game and manual are good enough for this to be complete in my eyes, I don't care what anyone says...You can not tell me that a "strip" and "styrofoam container" are worth $1900+.

I have been seeing this more and more often, people spending money for items that really are not worth it, but for some reason, a frenzy happens, and everyone goes ballistic.

This goes for Neo Geo Euro Kizuna Encounter insert/manual, Ultimate 11 insert/manual, Air Raid 2600 pirate cart, etc.

Granted at the very least the Tooth Protectors thing came like this when it was shipped, but to be honest, you end up going way too far with things and soon will need outer shipping boxes for almost anything....Yes, I know this styrofoam was not part of the shipping box, but it's just some fitted STYROFOAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bronty-2]

well, I'm not saying it is or isn't worth it. But it did come with the manual and the strip. It's not just styro.

Sure its obscene - it's just a bit of paper and styro, but how is that different from any other collectible like a rare stamp that is just a bit of paper? It's not.

Paintings are just paint and canvas. What's more obscene, 2k for this or 50mil for a picasso? I'd say the latter. Even more obscene than either is 3mil for a rothko, but that's beside the point.

[ProgrammingAce]

@DreamTR: How much have YOU paid over the years for games that wern't even fit to be finished for retail release?

Most people would call us prototype collectors crazy too...

[Trade-N-Games]

I would have loved to place a bid on this around $2000 but I am working on my NES collection right now. Tooth Protectors In Box w/ Strip is one of the few games for 2600 that I would love to have the foam box to it and it might not be seen for a long time in that nice of condition. I am close to having all 2600 games boxed so this one will be alot harder to find than Video life I think. I had a very cool box made for my tooth protecctors that looks real nice and it has the band around it also and I am very happy with that for now. http://www.atariage.com/forums/uploads/post-1807-1150998488_thumb.jpg

[cheapgamer]

I could buy 110 Greatest Hits for that.

So

is the game any good; fun to play?

[DreamTR]

I'm not trying to justify its rarity, I am justifying the outer portion of the box it came in as ridiculous to spend the money on. If it was an original box, sure. Because of the factor surrounding it, I honestly do not think it is worth it at all.

Programming Ace: Many. Yet, these are mostly one-of-kind games, hence the factor of being the ONLY person able to play the game...kind of jumps up the scale there collectable wise in my opinion.

I would not really have much of a thing to say about this if it was just an original box, and not that styrofoam thing or strip it came with....

[Buyatari]

I'm curious.

Why is styrofoam any more "ridiculous" than cardboard? How about the Pepsi Invaders box? A plain white box with a red sticker that says Atari goes better with Coke. I bet that would have a 2k bid as well.

ALL that matters is no one kept these. Less people kept them because it was created out of styrofoam. Chase the Chuckwagon has much the same story except the box was cardboard. More were saved and a complete copy goes for approx 600.


I'm not trying to justify its rarity, I am justifying the outer portion of the box it came in as ridiculous to spend the money on. If it was an original box, sure. Because of the factor surrounding it, I honestly do not think it is worth it at all.

Programming Ace: Many. Yet, these are mostly one-of-kind games, hence the factor of being the ONLY person able to play the game...kind of jumps up the scale there collectable wise in my opinion.

I would not really have much of a thing to say about this if it was just an original box, and not that styrofoam thing or strip it came with....

[Griking]

To be honest, I don't care how much of a hardcore collector you are, a freaking styrofoam container? Seriously. Game and manual are good enough for this to be complete in my eyes, I don't care what anyone says...You can not tell me that a "strip" and "styrofoam container" are worth $1900+.

And to many others they can't for the life of them understand people who pay a few hundred dollars (never mind thousands of dollars) for a dumb plastic video game cartridge. Beauty (and value) is in the eye of the beholder.

[DreamTR]

The "difference" being that a production box is just that. Production. Even Chase the Chuckwagon is production. You won't see Chase hit $600 anymore. I think they still have one available for $539 or so. Ebay it hits $400 nowadays, but I'm not arguing about pricing, it all depends on who is watching and wants one at the moment.


Griking: I'm not talking aesthetics about plastic. I'm taking about a game, that did not have a box or manual, just that cardboard shell, and YES, people did throw them away, but to be honest the view of value IS in the eye of the beholder, and if you puts pros and cons for something such as a styrofoam shell, you are really are paying that much for the strip only.....my main point is a PRODUCTION box might be worth the money, but a plastic bag or styrofoam shell just does not do it in my eyes for value.

[Bronty-2]

meh. You're drawing a very arbitrary line IMO.

Why is a say (I know nothing about coins, just making shit up)

1914D quarter worth 500 and
a 1914S quarter worth 50,000?

All that's different is one little letter. In comparison that's a much 'sillier' purchase. But all collectibles at large dollar values are inherently silly. Get over it. :p

[Buyatari]

You want to get technical the "production" box is the paper strip that goes around the cardboard. Without it the box is pretty silly indeed.

[DreamTR]

bronty: I'm not comparing video games to coins, these are entirely different. I am just saying that it makes sense for some people to pay XXX amount of dollars for something, but only if it is has some sort of merit to the product at hand.

[Bronty-2]

bronty: I'm not comparing video games to coins, these are entirely different. I am just saying that it makes sense for some people to pay XXX amount of dollars for something, but only if it is has some sort of merit to the product at hand.

Who decides what has merit?

Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to get you to consider a different viewpoint here. Coins/games/art/pretty much any collectible are all the same at their roots. Why is 1914s worth money and 1914d not? Because one's rare and the other isn't. Same as the paper strip and instructions with this game, I guess. Sure it's stupid. So is every other collectible at its essence. 5-15k for a gold nwc? Give me a fucking break. $500 for a proto or sealed game. IT'S ALL STUPID AS HELL if you view it with any kind of a logical framework. Luckily, I choose to ignore my saner leanings. ;)

[Buyatari]

What about the crappy Panesian "boxes" ?

Do those have "merit"?

[Bronty-2]

What about the crappy Panesian "boxes" ?

Do those have "merit"?

whoah simultaneous post about the merit angle.. great minds yadda yadda ;)

[swlovinist]

Collectors like to collect things that are unique, rare, valuable, fun, enjoyable, available, cheap, etc. Some people will spend alot of money for any of the above. If it makes you happy, so be it. We all have our soft spot. For me, it is crappy Genesis games :D

[Iron Draggon]

I'm glad that I don't collect for the 2600. Way too many $1000+ games for that one. And I'm having a hard enough time trying to get all the $100+ imports that I want for the Saturn. I can't even imagine how some people can afford to pay $1000 plus for a single video game, much less do so repeatedly. And for Atari 2600 games at that. I know that to some people they're the pinnacle of gaming perfection, but to me they're just old relics from the lamest days of gaming. The graphics hella sucked, the music hella sucked, the sound effects hella sucked, everything about them hella sucked. And yet people will pay $1000's for this old crap.

I'm sure that someday someone will say the same thing about my collection, but at least it's all from an era that doesn't look like a bunch of stick figures and lego blocks!

I appreciate the 2600 for what it did for gaming, and I know that for alot of collectors it's more about preserving that history than it is about actually playing all of those crappy old games, but the fact that some people still play them and enjoy them more than anything that modern gaming has to offer sounds to me like a 40 year old still in Kindergarten! Why would you still want to play that crap?

[Buyatari]

if you didn't grow up with one you will never apprecaite it fully. I'm in the same boat. I never had an Atari as a kid. I bought my first Atari at the thrift store when NES and SNES games were still on the shelves.

From a collecting standpoint it has much more weight than from a gamers standpoint. The Ford Model T would suck to drive if you had to go far or the weather was bad but most car collectors would love to have one (provided they had the space)


I'm glad that I don't collect for the 2600. Way too many $1000+ games for that one. And I'm having a hard enough time trying to get all the $100+ imports that I want for the Saturn. I can't even imagine how some people can afford to pay $1000 plus for a single video game, much less do so repeatedly. And for Atari 2600 games at that. I know that to some people they're the pinnacle of gaming perfection, but to me they're just old relics from the lamest days of gaming. The graphics hella sucked, the music hella sucked, the sound effects hella sucked, everything about them hella sucked. And yet people will pay $1000's for this old crap.

I'm sure that someday someone will say the same thing about my collection, but at least it's all from an era that doesn't look like a bunch of stick figures and lego blocks!

I appreciate the 2600 for what it did for gaming, and I know that for alot of collectors it's more about preserving that history than it is about actually playing all of those crappy old games, but the fact that some people still play them and enjoy them more than anything that modern gaming has to offer sounds to me like a 40 year old still in Kindergarten! Why would you still want to play that crap?

[DreamTR]

Yeah, I'm not a huge Atari fan myself, but you have to respect the history of it, and from a collecting standpoint, the value on a complete collection of 2600 games beats out ANY system sans Neo Geo....but even that is debatable.

[stonic]

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[§ Gideon §]

Money is just paper. Styrofoam for paper sounds like a fair deal to me.

'Sorry your snipe got rejected, Buyatari.

[rbudrick]

ALL that matters is no one kept these. Less people kept them because it was created out of styrofoam. Chase the Chuckwagon has much the same story except the box was cardboard. More were saved and a complete copy goes for approx 600.

I got my complete Chase the Chuck Wagon for $209 or maybe $212 shipped. They thought it didn't have instructions, but lo and behold, there they were in the box....very hard to see since it was a lone thin sheet of paper against the side of the box between two of the box layers...that's all Chase the Chuck Wagon came with for instructions. But the best part? The copy I bought included a copy of the actual coupon used to send out for it!! AFAIK, nobody else in the world has that. Bids will start at $15k.

DreamTR, I'm honestly kind of surprised on your views on this, considering some of the very expensive items in your collection. I know what you're trying to say, but I just dont know how it's different than any other hobby where stupid things are worth so much.

Hey, everything is just made out of tiny particles (or strings if you're into that), I can't believe anything sells for what it does being made out those same quarks, protons, electrons, gluons, etc. But they do, because in certain configurations of those particles, rare structures occasionaly surface, making them more valuable to those who collect such complex structures, whether paper, styrofoam or silicon, which some argue are just wood, ancient dead things goo (oil), and sand. No matter what the hobby, rarer = more $, no matter what the material is. It's just a fact of life and that will never change.

-Rob