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udisi
06-24-2006, 11:00 AM
Yes, you heard right, I'm considering selling my NWC cart. I'm loking for offers at the moment, but before you fill my inbox, please serious offers only.The cart may end up on ebay before it's all over, but I thought I'd give people here first crack at it. I have some other scans of the cart, The scan in this link is of my actual cart.

http://www.stageselect.com/games/GamePicture.aspx?picid=1921

skaar
06-24-2006, 12:11 PM
Good luck on the sale man.

DreamTR
06-24-2006, 12:43 PM
That will probably hit 7,500$ + on eBay this time around....unless the crazy offers come in...

atari_wizard
06-24-2006, 01:13 PM
Good luck if you decide to part with it. I wish I had that kind of money to throw a nice offer your way.

bwild22
06-24-2006, 02:05 PM
Offer sent

nationgamesdepot
06-24-2006, 02:41 PM
WOW, only seen a handful of these ever. How did you come about owning it anyway?

The last one that was for sale on egay was BuyAtari's I think. I am pretty sure he got an offer of 15k for his, but he didn't really want to part with his I don't think. Maybe you should contact him, and get the info for the person who offered him 15k. Good luck with you sale man.
~~NGD

udisi
06-24-2006, 04:01 PM
I actually bought the cart bout 4 years ago off a forum member here. It's realy fun to play for those who haven't had a chance to. This and the DKC SNES one are my favorites. I have the star fox one too, but imo it's not as fun. So far I have 2 offers, gonna give it a little time, see what comes in. I'd be sad to see it leave, but I've been looking at getting a new car and selling the cart would make that a lot easier. I'm sure whoever buys it wil charish it as much as I have.

Hounder
06-24-2006, 04:21 PM
I wish I had the money to give you for it. With so few in existence, my chance of ever owning one are pretty slim if any. Good luck. I'm sure you will get close to 10k if you sell it on ebay. (not to discourage anybody here....)

Buyatari
06-25-2006, 10:48 PM
I had two offers when I posted mine.

12k and 15k

The 12k came from Cruzway here on DP. The 15k from a guy who mostly bought Wacky Packs and Garbage Pail Kids original artwork. Don't have either email.

Liquid_death
06-25-2006, 10:59 PM
whats and NWC gold kart??? 15k for a nes thats jus wow!! @_@ @_@

mb7241
06-25-2006, 11:11 PM
whats and NWC gold kart??? 15k for a nes thats jus wow!! @_@ @_@

Read up on it here (http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=5529). A heck of a piece. Quite fun, too, I'd say.

All I can say as far as selling the cart is concerned is that I wish I had the $$$$...I'd probably have to take out a 10-year loan to be able to afford that...

tornadostormxl
06-26-2006, 12:28 AM
Good luck i would take it if i had the money and how much did you pay for it?

pineapplehead2
06-26-2006, 04:44 AM
There is a ROM outhere, i have played it, but i would love the cart but aint got the money, not even close .

NESMAN420
06-26-2006, 11:26 AM
PM already sent!!

has there been many other offers other than mine?

really want this cart :D

Liquid_death
06-26-2006, 11:47 AM
whats and NWC gold kart??? 15k for a nes thats jus wow!! @_@ @_@

Read up on it here (http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=5529). A heck of a piece. Quite fun, too, I'd say.

All I can say as far as selling the cart is concerned is that I wish I had the $$$$...I'd probably have to take out a 10-year loan to be able to afford that...

wow thats crazy i cant belive only 26 carts were ever released @_@ i want it but id have to sell my organs to b able to aford that @_@ .

udisi
06-26-2006, 12:02 PM
update PM sent nesman. Just to update everyone a bit. If I get an offer like buyatari, I will be selling the cart. I have not yet recieved an offer close to that, but I have recieved some serious offers. Right now I'm planning on giving it a week or so to see whats out there. I still have 2 friends trying to talk me out of selling it and I have to decide if the highest offer I get is worth it to me.

DreamTR
06-26-2006, 12:06 PM
I'd sell mine if I had a crazy offer too more than likely...the one I have is the mintest, most pristine one I have ever seen. I'm not really too picky on condition, and I would even downgrade it if possible to one in slightly worse shape, but I think the best non eBay offers out there right now are between $4000-7000....

udisi: The last one I sold to captainfalcon around 5 years ago or so was $6500. That was the ONLY reason I sold that one, for an obscene amount of money at the time.

Buyatari
06-26-2006, 12:34 PM
I'd sell mine if I had a crazy offer too more than likely...the one I have is the mintest, most pristine one I have ever seen. I'm not really too picky on condition, and I would even downgrade it if possible to one in slightly worse shape, but I think the best non eBay offers out there right now are between $4000-7000....

What happened to that guy who wanted one for 8k here on the boards? I had many offers besides the two I mentioned when I ebayed the NWC and I would say 4-7k would be a low estimate for those other offers. Put it up on ebay with 20k and take best offers. See what happens. Cost you about $5 and you will get mega advertising.

aaronpetrosky
06-26-2006, 06:53 PM
Good Luck and Good Luck in getting the car. Even if you put it on ebay just put a reserve on it, you got nothing to lose.

tornadostormxl
06-26-2006, 11:44 PM
How many people here have the gold NWC?

tynstar
06-27-2006, 12:07 AM
update PM sent nesman. Just to update everyone a bit. If I get an offer like buyatari, I will be selling the cart. I have not yet recieved an offer close to that, but I have recieved some serious offers. Right now I'm planning on giving it a week or so to see whats out there. I still have 2 friends trying to talk me out of selling it and I have to decide if the highest offer I get is worth it to me.

I agree with your friends. Cars are all over the place and only go down in value. Unless you need this car for a job and that job keeps food on the table it is not worth it. You may never get a chance to own this again. The car you want will be cheaper in time. My 2 cents.

DreamTR
06-27-2006, 01:08 AM
I've got one, another local collector to me has one, BuyAtari has one, udisi has one, Collector in Netherlands has one, collector in Norway has one, Ken Sutherland in Louisiana has one (Lost Levels), and I "think" player 2 game exchange has one....

Bronty-2
06-27-2006, 09:53 AM
I know of one other copy you haven't accounted for on the east coast. I've tried trading for it off and on but I don't think it's going to happen as the owner can be difficult to deal with :/

Buyatari
06-27-2006, 10:40 AM
Find me someone with a gold NWC who isn't ;)


I know of one other copy you haven't accounted for on the east coast. I've tried trading for it off and on but I don't think it's going to happen as the owner can be difficult to deal with :/

Bronty-2
06-27-2006, 10:50 AM
Find me someone with a gold NWC who isn't ;)


I know of one other copy you haven't accounted for on the east coast. I've tried trading for it off and on but I don't think it's going to happen as the owner can be difficult to deal with :/

I know what you're saying but he's difficult period. Even on non-nwc stuff ;)

ProgrammingAce
06-27-2006, 05:27 PM
I know of one more, but the dude refuses to even acknowledge he owns it... so i'll let him speak up if he so chooses.

udisi
06-30-2006, 06:57 PM
On to egay for shits and giggles

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260003592768

I had to best Adam by a penny :D

Buyatari
06-30-2006, 06:59 PM
Why don't you accept best offers. If you list the item with intent to sell outside of ebay someone can report you and shut the auction down, you might suspended , etc...

udisi
06-30-2006, 07:05 PM
I didn't say anything about selling outside of ebay, I just said I would notify those interested in a relist.

Buyatari
06-30-2006, 07:25 PM
You have it up for 20k you mention taking down names and emails if it doesn't sell and you don't have the option for best offer. Ebay may think you are trying to sell outside of ebay. Its not like they will ask you anything. They get a complaint and they just pull it.

sivarto
07-03-2006, 08:05 AM
I had an offer to buy a gold cart for $8000 but I'm now dealing to close for less.
Hopefully soon the deal will be closed.

Don't be surprised if you didn't get $12000 or more offers.
Those were fake offers that Buyatari got and was already mentioned in a previous thread(one of ther guy offering $12000 didn't even honor his word for a $1000 offer).


DreamTR got it right:it could go for $4000 to maybe over $6000 but probably on the low end when you want real money and not words.

BTW Buyatari,last grey cart sold after a relist for $2750 and I was waiting for you to buy it after your word about your will to buy one immediately for the cheap price of $3000...and it only sold due to 1 bid at the very last second after a week of zero bids and more than 1000 views(and after a previous list for $3000+ like already mentioned).

sivarto
07-03-2006, 08:10 AM
I'd sell mine if I had a crazy offer too more than likely...the one I have is the mintest, most pristine one I have ever seen. I'm not really too picky on condition, and I would even downgrade it if possible to one in slightly worse shape, but I think the best non eBay offers out there right now are between $4000-7000....

udisi: The last one I sold to captainfalcon around 5 years ago or so was $6500. That was the ONLY reason I sold that one, for an obscene amount of money at the time.


I reckon if you get a $7000+ real offer, that is a very good offer on the gold cart DreamTR.
You can probably get the buyer to fork out something more due the mint shape of your cart,sure thing.

The cart I located has scratches like the one udisi posted up for sale but we are dealing for an amount nowhere close to $7000.

udisi
07-03-2006, 11:08 AM
I have a 5 figure offer atm, that I may very well take if I can work out the details. I tend to agree with Adam when he said it's a seller's market not a buyers. If you can get one for 4k, 7k, or whatever, that's what it was worth to the owner. Just remember that most of these carts are in the hands of people who don't want to sell it.

DreamTR
07-03-2006, 11:45 AM
Yeah, if any of these go for 5 figures with scratches, mine has to be worth closer to 15K.....there is nary a mark on it.

Sivarto: I would never sell this one, though. $7000 is not enough to warrant selling it...

sivarto
07-03-2006, 01:03 PM
I have a 5 figure offer atm, that I may very well take if I can work out the details. I tend to agree with Adam when he said it's a seller's market not a buyers. If you can get one for 4k, 7k, or whatever, that's what it was worth to the owner. Just remember that most of these carts are in the hands of people who don't want to sell it.

My advice,Udisi,would be to take the best offer by the end of the auction if you need the money for something else and don't worry too much about selling the cart:
as a matter of fact,those 26 gold carts do change hands from time to time and the chance to buy them again will pop up in the future and if you really want it,you could buy it back "probably" for about the same money you got for it.

My only question and concern would be regarding the legitimacy of those gold carts:there is no warranty and they are not even numbered...I guess some fakes could be around...not implying yours is not the real deal of course but as a general warning.

Best of luck selling it anyway,$5000(your offer at the moment) is already more than what the last gold on ebay sold for.

anagrama
07-03-2006, 02:40 PM
$5000(your offer at the moment) is already more than what the last gold on ebay sold for.

He said 5-figure, not 5 grand.

sivarto
07-03-2006, 02:51 PM
$5000(your offer at the moment) is already more than what the last gold on ebay sold for.

He said 5-figure, not 5 grand.

Sorry read too quickly the post.
If he really got a serious offer for $10000,that would be a great offer if he really wants to cash in.
Again best of luck anyway :)

StageSelect
07-03-2006, 04:52 PM
So, I get a funny email today, complaining that I've sold my contributors out... :/

Apparently, your image of the cart got resized and reposted to 1Up.com. It's in their "Instant Rarity" article, on Page 2.

I called them up, and I've also emailed them to be sure that they have your permission to republish the pic, udisi. The policy I have is that YOU retain the copyright, not me.

If you don't want to act on it, that's cool. But with you wanting to sell the cart, I thought it'd be nice if 1Up would at least ACKNOWLEDGE you.

Buyatari
07-03-2006, 11:25 PM
BTW Buyatari,last grey cart sold after a relist for $2750 and I was waiting for you to buy it after your word about your will to buy one immediately for the cheap price of $3000...and it only sold due to 1 bid at the very last second after a week of zero bids and more than 1000 views(and after a previous list for $3000+ like already mentioned).

The one with the busted piece of plastic? I'll pass.

tornadostormxl
07-03-2006, 11:51 PM
You should have clean it a bit

sivarto
07-04-2006, 03:08 AM
I remember it was quite in good shape,anyway the silver cart got listed twice and still barely got $2750.(and when most here said that silver carts were worth $3500 or 4000 at least!)

Udisi,if you can verify a legit offer for "more" than $7k and that is a cash offer,you should go for it and quickly in my opinion,before the potential buyer thinks again about his offer...I mean it can be a seller market but,as I said,if you don't find a paying buyer you are not even a seller.

And if 2 gold carts will be put on the market at the same time,one could maybe go even for $8k or more,but maybe the other could go for the half if no buyer will pay more for it.

That is just how the market goes,especially when all the gold carts owners will see the chance to sell for 2 times the price they paid thier gold cart.....you can be sure that out of 26 owners,way more than one will try to cash in.

Hounder
07-04-2006, 04:45 AM
I'm about 99% sure Player-2 has one. I will have to check my PMs.

Buyatari
07-04-2006, 07:02 AM
http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/ff/12/ce_1_sbl.JPG

Busted plastic. Untested. Sold for $2750

Buyatari
07-04-2006, 07:06 AM
you can be sure that out of 26 owners,way more than one will try to cash in.

Still waiting to see that list of 26 owners you got there.

sivarto
07-04-2006, 08:10 AM
you can be sure that out of 26 owners,way more than one will try to cash in.

Still waiting to see that list of 26 owners you got there.



It doesn't take "the list" to grasp the idea that IF a gold cart will sell for high money most likely another 1 or 2 will be for sale soon , being more than 20 out there.

Also,your gold cart that you put on ebay is scratched as hell,so I don't think a piece of busted plastic would ruin a sale.
It is called low "demand for that price".

That silver cart was sold by a professional ebay seller and got more than 1000 views before getting a bid in the last seconds and it was already a relist.

It turned out to work perfectly as far as I was told BTW.

Buyatari
07-04-2006, 12:17 PM
There is no list of 26 owners. There will never be a list of 26 owners because 26 no longer are out there to be had. Never in the history of videogaming has a game had a 100% recovery rate 15 years after the fact. There are 10 or less. A few more may turn up but not all of them not even close.

Of the 5000 or so rumored stadium events how many are out there? ALL 5000 ?

All the rare rare high demand holy grail items have gone up quite a bit in the last few years. If you ever bought or sold videogames for more than $1000 you might be more aware. Gold NWC will follow suit.

Here we have one for sale. Watch and learn.

Darren870
07-04-2006, 12:28 PM
26 are not out there still, no way no how. Im saying less then 15, if not below 10.

Im sure some have been thrashed and some might be sitting in a thrift store. I know the last one that sold on ebay was found in a thrift store.

sivarto
07-04-2006, 01:20 PM
There is no list of 26 owners. There will never be a list of 26 owners because 26 no longer are out there to be had. Never in the history of videogaming has a game had a 100% recovery rate 15 years after the fact. There are 10 or less. A few more may turn up but not all of them not even close.

Of the 5000 or so rumored stadium events how many are out there? ALL 5000 ?

All the rare rare high demand holy grail items have gone up quite a bit in the last few years. If you ever bought or sold videogames for more than $1000 you might be more aware. Gold NWC will follow suit.

Here we have one for sale. Watch and learn.

Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up LOL

Darren870
07-04-2006, 02:01 PM
There is no list of 26 owners. There will never be a list of 26 owners because 26 no longer are out there to be had. Never in the history of videogaming has a game had a 100% recovery rate 15 years after the fact. There are 10 or less. A few more may turn up but not all of them not even close.

Of the 5000 or so rumored stadium events how many are out there? ALL 5000 ?

All the rare rare high demand holy grail items have gone up quite a bit in the last few years. If you ever bought or sold videogames for more than $1000 you might be more aware. Gold NWC will follow suit.

Here we have one for sale. Watch and learn.

Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up LOL

I think he knows quite a bit more about video games then you..

anagrama
07-04-2006, 02:22 PM
Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up LOL

Fucking classic. LOL

Hounder
07-04-2006, 02:45 PM
There is no list of 26 owners. There will never be a list of 26 owners because 26 no longer are out there to be had. Never in the history of videogaming has a game had a 100% recovery rate 15 years after the fact. There are 10 or less. A few more may turn up but not all of them not even close.

Of the 5000 or so rumored stadium events how many are out there? ALL 5000 ?

All the rare rare high demand holy grail items have gone up quite a bit in the last few years. If you ever bought or sold videogames for more than $1000 you might be more aware. Gold NWC will follow suit.

Here we have one for sale. Watch and learn.

Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up LOL

I think he knows quite a bit more about video games then you..
Ditto on that. For a guy that has bought SEVERAL thousand dollar games, I would think he knows what he's talking about. In fact, I've never bought a game for over a thousand (come close though) and I would say the very same thing.

ROBOTNIK666
07-04-2006, 04:29 PM
There is a ROM outhere, i have played it, but i would love the cart but aint got the money, not even close .

Do you remember where the ROM for it is?

Buyatari
07-04-2006, 11:14 PM
Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up

The only wild speculation I see is the idea that all 26 of the gold NWCs will all get together for some type of gold NWC reunion party.

Don't be mad at me that the cheapest gold NWC you can find for sale is $8k (one that only you know about at that)and udisi has an offer of $10k+ on his. Don't let either fact change your thoughts on the value and that its somehow worth much less.

If the other gold NWC owners are inclined to sell after a 10k+ sale they are only going to do so for the same money. Why would one 10k sale create a frenzy selling spree where the owners are now happy with 5-7k?

Many I spoke to would not sell for 10k and while I didn't speak to them all I didn't talk to one who said he would sell for 10k. You make many judgments as to what the NWCs owners think and what they would do but all you have to do is talk to them. Its not theoretical. Don't take my word for it just ask them and they will tell you themselves. Wait you did already and the cheapest one was 8k?

Hopefully, Udisi will relist the auction taking best offers next time around and take the highest bid for all to see.

Nes
07-04-2006, 11:37 PM
Dave Ramsey would be so proud of the eventual winner.

DreamTR
07-05-2006, 02:28 AM
I listed the owners as best as I could to my knowledge, and there is no way any of us would sell it for less than 20K. I'm not even sure if Buyatari would sell his for 20K, but I know of two owners that won't part with it for ANY amount of money.

sivarto
07-05-2006, 03:42 AM
Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up

The only wild speculation I see is the idea that all 26 of the gold NWCs will all get together for some type of gold NWC reunion party.

Don't be mad at me that the cheapest gold NWC you can find for sale is $8k (one that only you know about at that)and udisi has an offer of $10k+ on his. Don't let either fact change your thoughts on the value and that its somehow worth much less.

If the other gold NWC owners are inclined to sell after a 10k+ sale they are only going to do so for the same money. Why would one 10k sale create a frenzy selling spree where the owners are now happy with 5-7k?

Many I spoke to would not sell for 10k and while I didn't speak to them all I didn't talk to one who said he would sell for 10k. You make many judgments as to what the NWCs owners think and what they would do but all you have to do is talk to them. Its not theoretical. Don't take my word for it just ask them and they will tell you themselves. Wait you did already and the cheapest one was 8k?

Hopefully, Udisi will relist the auction taking best offers next time around and take the highest bid for all to see.

Buyatari,your reasoning i s failing to see the main point.
You need a paying buyer to sell for those high prices your hoping for and that's not going to happen.

Only very very few people will be ready to drop $10+ on a nes cart and yes,other sellers could ask same price or more but they won't just get a sale,only bogus or fake offers just like you did last time.

You can go on and talk to all the owners and say the cart is worth five figures ...but it will be already a miracle if you find one crazy guy ready to actually pay that much(like you said in the other thread in trying to help udisi out to locate the one to be ripped off)

And BTW,before this whole comedy,DreamTR and others perfectly knew as you do that if you put the cart on ebay with no reserve the final price won' be what your writing here...even with all your efforts.

Buyatari
07-05-2006, 07:39 AM
I have no doubt that if I have full intention to sell I'd find a buyer for 10k or more. However, I won't sell mine just to prove you wrong. There is one for sale now and if he takes full advantage of the tools all sellers have he will sell for over 10k and we can put this to rest. I wouldn't just throw it on ebay. Any seller who does is rolling the dice that a potential buyer just happens to have the available cash at the time of the sale. Thats not how you sell a game of this nature.

There is a select group of buyers and sellers who have bought or sold in thousand dollar range. I feel I have a very good understanding of what the market will bear and how these people think. You think its all up to the buyer to determine the price but not in this case. This is one cart that people really want. If they are given an extended period of time to make sacrifices to obtain it they will.




Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up

The only wild speculation I see is the idea that all 26 of the gold NWCs will all get together for some type of gold NWC reunion party.

Don't be mad at me that the cheapest gold NWC you can find for sale is $8k (one that only you know about at that)and udisi has an offer of $10k+ on his. Don't let either fact change your thoughts on the value and that its somehow worth much less.

If the other gold NWC owners are inclined to sell after a 10k+ sale they are only going to do so for the same money. Why would one 10k sale create a frenzy selling spree where the owners are now happy with 5-7k?

Many I spoke to would not sell for 10k and while I didn't speak to them all I didn't talk to one who said he would sell for 10k. You make many judgments as to what the NWCs owners think and what they would do but all you have to do is talk to them. Its not theoretical. Don't take my word for it just ask them and they will tell you themselves. Wait you did already and the cheapest one was 8k?

Hopefully, Udisi will relist the auction taking best offers next time around and take the highest bid for all to see.

Buyatari,your reasoning i s failing to see the main point.
You need a paying buyer to sell for those high prices your hoping for and that's not going to happen.

Only very very few people will be ready to drop $10+ on a nes cart and yes,other sellers could ask same price or more but they won't just get a sale,only bogus or fake offers just like you did last time.

You can go on and talk to all the owners and say the cart is worth five figures ...but it will be already a miracle if you find one crazy guy ready to actually pay that much(like you said in the other thread in trying to help udisi out to locate the one to be ripped off)

And BTW,before this whole comedy,DreamTR and others perfectly knew as you do that if you put the cart on ebay with no reserve the final price won' be what your writing here...even with all your efforts.

Darren870
07-05-2006, 09:59 AM
He just wants to be one of the big boys...

bangtango
07-05-2006, 11:06 AM
Never mind Buyatari,you and your speculation on videogames crack me up

The only wild speculation I see is the idea that all 26 of the gold NWCs will all get together for some type of gold NWC reunion party.

Don't be mad at me that the cheapest gold NWC you can find for sale is $8k (one that only you know about at that)and udisi has an offer of $10k+ on his. Don't let either fact change your thoughts on the value and that its somehow worth much less.

If the other gold NWC owners are inclined to sell after a 10k+ sale they are only going to do so for the same money. Why would one 10k sale create a frenzy selling spree where the owners are now happy with 5-7k?

Many I spoke to would not sell for 10k and while I didn't speak to them all I didn't talk to one who said he would sell for 10k. You make many judgments as to what the NWCs owners think and what they would do but all you have to do is talk to them. Its not theoretical. Don't take my word for it just ask them and they will tell you themselves. Wait you did already and the cheapest one was 8k?

Hopefully, Udisi will relist the auction taking best offers next time around and take the highest bid for all to see.

Buyatari,your reasoning i s failing to see the main point.
You need a paying buyer to sell for those high prices your hoping for and that's not going to happen.

Only very very few people will be ready to drop $10+ on a nes cart and yes,other sellers could ask same price or more but they won't just get a sale,only bogus or fake offers just like you did last time.

You can go on and talk to all the owners and say the cart is worth five figures ...but it will be already a miracle if you find one crazy guy ready to actually pay that much(like you said in the other thread in trying to help udisi out to locate the one to be ripped off)

And BTW,before this whole comedy,DreamTR and others perfectly knew as you do that if you put the cart on ebay with no reserve the final price won' be what your writing here...even with all your efforts.

I know it is not what you want to hear, but BuyAtari has you in a stranglehold here. Everybody can see that but you. You'd be best to let the matter drop, since he has the game and you don't.

udisi
07-05-2006, 11:28 AM
Here's my take on this, before I considered selling this cart I thought maybe it'd be 5-7.5 k. I also was unaware that buyatari had listed his a few months ago and recieved offers 10k+. After listing it here, I recieved 2 serious offers for 5k almost instantly, but that's all I recieved. My reasoning then was, I know there are more than 2 people interested in this with the money to spend on it. After reading these threads I found out about buyatari's auction and his offers, and I decided it was worth the 5$ to see who would pop up on ebay. As of this moment I've had 26 people email me with interest and or offers. 10k has been the highest offer, but not all those who showed interest made a offer yet. Now, knowing that DreamTR is responsible for about 90% of all the know copies of this game, I'd be willing to believe him when he says the owners of this game are either not selling it, or wouldn't accept less than 5 figures for it. Now, with that said, none of these have ever sold for 5 figures yet, but if there are only 8-9 accounted for and all those owners are not willing to sell or aren't willing to sell for less than 5 figures, it's a pretty safe assumption that the next one that sells will sell for 5 figures. True more could come to light, but if someone were to find one of these today, I'm pretty sure they would either keep it, or definitly do their own research before selling it. Supply and demand doesn't work quite regularly in the case of this game. Like normal supply and demand the game does get a value. Low supply + Plus high demand = High Price, But the other thing at work here is that the supply is not in the hands of buisness owners, they are collectors. The people who own this cart are not in the buisness of selling it. They don't need to move inventory. Sure some like myself COULD sell it, but we don't NEED to. This is the factor that I believe has led to the idea of 10k+ prices. The demand is high, granted there are only a few collectors willing or in a position to purchase a game for this amount of money. Over time though, NES collectors are getting older and have more disposable income. The odds of a buyer willing to pay 10+k are increasing. Now, is mine going to sell for 10+k?... yes because after seeing what I've seen in the past week on ebay, I wouldn't sell mine for any less. Will it sell to the person that offered me 10k....maybe, I still haven't gotten completly serious with him, but I am satisfied that after the interest and offers I recieved and knowing what I do about the other owners of this cart that.

#1 None of the other know owners of this cart will sell it for less than 10k...I'd be selling myself short if I sold mine for less...and

#2 If I do sell this, I'm never gonna get one back...I better be sure I get an amount that will outweigh any remorse I have for selling it. I am a collector at heart and will miss having this at whatever compensation I may recieve

Does this mean that I will sell my cart for more 10+k?...NO
All this means is that if I do sell sell it, it will sell for 10+k. I may not find a buyer atm, but I'm also content to stick the game back in it's nice little place in my collection, and hold on to it.

Many things have changed since I bought this game. The biggest thing being that, there's a lot more collectors, and a lot more information and revere for it.

rbudrick
07-05-2006, 01:02 PM
I would like to remind people that while it is an very educated guess that there's less than 10-15 of these left, it is only a guess. It is probably valid too, but still only a guess.

Someone could say it's a definite fact until the end of time, but it's not a fact until there's proof. Speculation just isn't enough.

Unless we have proof positive that any copies were actually thrown in the trash, then it must be assumed possible that all 26 are still around, somewhere.

If we do have proof that one was indeed thrown out, I want to interview this person. DreamTR, in your research did you happen to come across any of the winners that did this? If so, who was it?

-Rob

sivarto
07-05-2006, 01:15 PM
I would like to remind people that while it is an very educated guess that there's less than 10-15 of these left, it is only a guess. It is probably valid too, but still only a guess.

Someone could say it's a definite fact until the end of time, but it's not a fact until there's proof. Speculation just isn't enough.

Unless we have proof positive that any copies were actually thrown in the trash, then it must be assumed possible that all 26 are still around, somewhere.

If we do have proof that one was indeed thrown out, I want to interview this person. DreamTR, in your research did you happen to come across any of the winners that did this? If so, who was it?

-Rob

Rob,
I think it is pretty clear to all that 26 of them are around worldwide.
Probaly not all 26 but more than 20 sure thing as this item was a prize and people do keep good care of those*especially after you took the time to enter a contest and win it*
DreamTR and Ataribuy have to play their role and try to inflate the price since they are 2 potential sellers.
But I guess that was a given.

rbudrick
07-05-2006, 02:12 PM
Rob,
I think it is pretty clear to all that 26 of them are around worldwide.
Probaly not all 26 but more than 20 sure thing as this item was a prize and people do keep good care of those*especially after you took the time to enter a contest and win it*


Well, DreamTR did personally go to many of the 26 winners and aquire these carts from them. He had 7 at one point. DreamTR, do you remember the original prices you paid (if you don't mind my asking). Just curious. I don't think the prices were near any of the prices we speak of today...a fraction, really. So, as far as the contest winners taking the best care of them....nah, they really didn't for the most part. Some sold for a pittance, I believe.


DreamTR and Ataribuy have to play their role and try to inflate the price since they are 2 potential sellers.
But I guess that was a given.

;) I've heard that theory from others before. But, the counter argument is that if they will never sell it, why would they bother? It goes both ways, ya know?

-Rob

DreamTR
07-05-2006, 02:13 PM
sivarto: WHat do you mean "play my role", I am NOT a potential seller. Let's repeat this: I HAVE NO PLANS OF SELLING THIS CART. Please read what you write on here before you assume I am selling something I am not.

I can also state that if I got another one of these BACK (which may be likely one of these days....) I will NEVER sell that either.

rbudrick: I know that one guy traded his for a bike almost immediately after he sold it....Others have it "missing", others I could not contact. Even if you tried contacting the ones that I could not get ahold of "now", there's no way they could not research this and demand top $ for the cart. That was the joy of me grabbing these in 98-99....no one had any idea they would blow through the roof, so I sold them/traded them to finance my collection, and I don't regret it because at the time I asked for incredibly high values, and definitely got my money back in the trades in return, so I'm happy with the outcome, and I kept the mintest copy there was....

sivarto
07-05-2006, 02:52 PM
[quote]Rob,
I ;) I've heard that theory from others before. But, the counter argument is that if they will never sell it, why would they bother? It goes both ways, ya know?

-Rob


Well,if you read through Ataribuy and DreamTR 's posts,they say they "would" sell for the right offer in their mind.

I'm not saying it myself DreamTR,you wrote it.
Buyatari tried to do it.

And it is also pretty clear they only want the price to skyrocket to take advantage of that.
It is called price gouging.

rbudrick
07-05-2006, 02:59 PM
Well,if you read through Ataribuy and DreamTR 's posts,they say they "would" sell for the right offer in their mind.

I'm not saying it myself DreamTR,you wrote it.
Buyatari tried to do it.

And it is also pretty clear they only want the price to skyrocket to take advantage of that.
It is called price gouging.

Well sure, a gajillion dollars could buy you anything, but the gouging? Hmm, I dunno...some would say it's marketing. ;)

-Rob

DreamTR
07-05-2006, 03:18 PM
sivarto: Do you have ANY high end rare items? No? Then stay out of this discussion. If you had an NWC and Stadium Events, then you can talk. I am sure you have neither of them.

Also, you wrote:
And it is also pretty clear they only want the price to skyrocket to take advantage of that.
It is called price gouging.

I made a STATEMENT saying EVERYTHING is for sale at the right price. It is not price gouging. If someone offered me 100K, I would sell it. I would not sell ANYTHING in my personal collection unless someone overpaid BECAUSE I do not want to sell it. Simple logic, you see? Please stay out of the thread now since you obviously have nothing pertinent to contricute, k thx.

sivarto
07-05-2006, 03:27 PM
[quote="DreamTR"]I'd sell mine if I had a crazy offer too more than likely...

[quote]

This was your reply when udisi mentioned the fake offers of $12k+.
Pretty clear to me your willing to sell for those overpriced offers.

And yes,I have high end items in my collection :-P

No need to get bitter DreamTR,we are just discussing the matter and it seems I'm not the only member here to think that way.

GrandAmChandler
07-05-2006, 03:30 PM
[quote="DreamTR"]I'd sell mine if I had a crazy offer too more than likely...

[quote]

This was your reply when udisi mentioned the fake offers of $12k+.
Pretty clear to me your willing to sell for those overpriced offers.

And yes,I have high end item in my collection :-P

Sivarto, at this point I see you doing nothing but Trolling in this thread. So Stop now. Or Else. Final Warning.

-GAC-

sivarto
07-05-2006, 03:35 PM
[quote=DreamTR]I'd sell mine if I had a crazy offer too more than likely...

[quote]

This was your reply when udisi mentioned the fake offers of $12k+.
Pretty clear to me your willing to sell for those overpriced offers.

And yes,I have high end item in my collection :-P

Sivarto, at this point I see you doing nothing but Trolling in this thread. So Stop now. Or Else. Final Warning.

-GAC-

Could you explain to me why I'm "trolling"?

DreamTR said "the right price" and I quoted the point where he says he would sell for those overpriced prices already quoted.

Then I replied to his question:yes I have some high dollars videogames.

Where is trolling?

odyeiop
07-05-2006, 03:45 PM
I know that this isn't exactly my place to say, but I do think that most of this page would be best reserved for PM's and the like.

Sorry if I'm out of line, this is just seeming to be spammy now.

sivarto
07-05-2006, 03:50 PM
No problem,I will stay out of this thread.
Freedom of speech is still to come here.

I'm only happy other members as well can see the truth about some people here.

Bye all.

Nate Nanjo
07-05-2006, 04:21 PM
The only thing that I have been thinking, that it is possible for at least one to have been destroyed, say by a fire or flood?

Its a small chance, but it seems more likely than all 26 still existing.

rbudrick
07-05-2006, 04:37 PM
The only thing that I have been thinking, that it is possible for at least one to have been destroyed, say by a fire or flood?

Its a small chance, but it seems more likely than all 26 still existing.

DreamTR, how many were you not able to get a hold of? Was it 19 (since you got 7)? Wait, it couldn't be 19, since some had it just missing....how many had it missing out of how many you spoke to?


Even if you tried contacting the ones that I could not get ahold of "now", there's no way they could not research this and demand top $ for the cart.

Yeah, I know. I'm just in search of "the scoop" for my book that, when finished, might someday sell 10 copies. LOL

-Rob

DreamTR
07-05-2006, 04:51 PM
sivarto: Obviously you have a language barrier. I said I would sell for a "crazy" offer. 12K and 15K are NOT crazy enough for me to sell, and I am not looking to sell.

As far as your crazy items, what are they? Do tell.

rbudrick: I could not get ahold of a few names. One or two of those put the cart(s) on eBay, though.