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mezrabad
06-24-2006, 02:26 PM
Can a videogame be classified as fictional or non-fictional?

If games can tell a story, then is it unreasonable to expect games to be able to tell true stories? Could games which report or demonstrate research be considered non-fictional?

We're not going to get into the "videogames are art" "no they're not" "yes they are" argument here, okay? Don't go there.

Can we look at videogames as a media and try to generate a list of "non-fictional videogames" and feel free to include computer games as well.

For instance

Sid Mier's Gettysburg and any simulation of a battle which has taken place, even if the outcome of the battle can be altered.
Microsoft Flight Simulator (?)
Sim City (?), Sim Health, Sim Earth (?)
Civilization (?)
America's Army (?)

You see what I'm getting at? I'm not sure if Sim City can count as non-fiction but the original was based on research in city planning. America's Army has fictional scenarios so it may not count either. JFK Reloaded, as offensive as it is to some, could be considered non-fiction as it simulates an actual event.

Then again, there are games with out stories at all, like Dance Dance Revolution which aren't fiction or non-fiction, they're just "games". I'm not looking for them either, otherwise, PONG could be considered non-fiction. I'm looking for games that tell true stories or try to realisticly simulate possible events. "The Great Wall Street Fortune Hunt" might be non-fiction. "Conquest of the World" not.

Anyway, I hope you get what I'm asking.

Leo_A
06-24-2006, 03:59 PM
You're confusing realism with nonfiction.

slip81
06-24-2006, 04:10 PM
You're confusing realism with nonfiction.

Yeah, fiction/non-fiction is determined by story accuratecy, something like flight simulator is neither. FS doesn't tell the true story of flight 123 or whatever, it is however a realistic and fairly accurate account of what its like to pilot a plane.

That being said there is no reason there can't be non-fiction videogames. If I remember correctly the first Brothers in Arms game was supposed to based off real events, battles and people. So I guess that could be an example right there.

hbkprm
06-24-2006, 04:45 PM
it doesn't matter

Haoie
06-24-2006, 06:39 PM
I was thinking, non fiction VGs actually exist.

While fiction are like Larry the Looter in the Simpsons, doesn't exist in the real world.

mezrabad
06-24-2006, 07:24 PM
it doesn't matter

Knuckle-dragger! LOL

No, it doesn't "matter", but that wasn't really the question.

Because videogames are interactive, implying the outcome of a particular story can be changed, it seems hard to categorize anything as strictly "non-fiction". So I guess I'm trying to find games which tell a story that would be analogous to non-fiction in non-interative media.

I see the point about how Flight Simulator wouldn't be "non-fiction". Brothers in Arms is more along the lines of what I'm thinking. Perhaps, Close Combat: A Bridge Too Far would also count as non-fiction videogame?

Of course, Fatal Frame is supposedly based on a true story (it says so, right at the begining!), but I doubt anyone would classify it as non-fiction.

There's been discussion comparing videogames to film as a medium. Since videogames can have stories with drama, comedy, action and romance elements, I'm trying to think of any with non-fiction, even documentary-like elements.

This isn't for a paper or anything, I'm just wondering what could count as non-fictional videogames.

Juganawt
06-24-2006, 08:14 PM
The first ones that instantly spring to mind are Koei's simulations:

Genghis Kahn
Nobunagas Ambition
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Dynasty Warriors
Kessen


All of those games are based on real events and real times in history.

mezrabad
06-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Those make sense, although I thought Romance of the Three Kingdoms was based on a novel which was itself historical fiction. Hmm, which would bring up another category, I guess. Heh.

How about Buzz Aldrin's Race Into Space? I've never played it so I don't know, but my understanding of it is that it explores the development of technologies needed to get into space. I should see if the underdogs have it as I've been meaning to check it out for a while now.