View Full Version : Xbox 2D Fighters (Look bad in VGA...?)
WhiteHenDecapitator
07-05-2006, 11:37 PM
Just wondering if anyone else uses their Xbox with a VGA monitor?
I do, and its the only way to go! Games look amazing on the VGA monitor and setup I use, but... most of the 2D fighting games look horrible! With the exception of the Guilty Gear games, the rest of them are very blocky and low-res looking. Just the character sprites seem affected by this, backgrounds and other game graphics look very vibrant and detailed.
How do these games look in composite video? I don't have a standard Xbox AV cable to test mine. I would be shocked to see them look better in composite than VGA!
Thanks.
SirDrexl
07-07-2006, 12:17 PM
Yeah, that's because GG is the only one that actually uses high-resolution sprites. The others (ahem, Capcom) use low-resolution sprites and the VGA image makes that all the more clear.
WhiteHenDecapitator
07-07-2006, 12:37 PM
I got my hands on a standard Xbox AV cord and tested these games in composite video, they look great!
Now I wonder if these games will still look good in component video. If I can't play them in VGA, then component is the only way to go.
The Guilty Gears in VGA are amazing! I don't know why Capcom wen't with the low resolution sprites, it's hard to even play these in VGA mode they look that bad.
Thanks.
Mr.FoodMonster
07-07-2006, 01:11 PM
My guess is because whatever Capcom fighting game you have has close to three times as many charater sprites as GG. If you had a large difference in players, that might be a reason for it. But, I bet GG looks fantastic.
ubersaurus
07-07-2006, 02:33 PM
My guess is because whatever Capcom fighting game you have has close to three times as many charater sprites as GG. If you had a large difference in players, that might be a reason for it. But, I bet GG looks fantastic.
I don't know, Guilty Gear has a lot of characters as well. it's just that most of capcom's sprites are from the 90s, where they were a decent enough resolution.
Of course, Guilty Gear makes up for the high res by having almost no frames of animation for any given movement, just played really fast so no one notices.
ubersaurus
07-07-2006, 02:34 PM
My guess is because whatever Capcom fighting game you have has close to three times as many charater sprites as GG. If you had a large difference in players, that might be a reason for it. But, I bet GG looks fantastic.
I don't know, Guilty Gear has a lot of characters as well. it's just that most of capcom's sprites are from the 90s, where they were a decent enough resolution.
Of course, Guilty Gear makes up for the high res by having almost no frames of animation for any given movement, just played really fast so no one notices.
WhiteHenDecapitator
07-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Other 2D games like Metal Slug and The King of Fighters look bad too, Metal Slug isn't that bad but The King of Fighters looks like garbage.
You just can't win!
WhiteHenDecapitator
07-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Other 2D games like Metal Slug and The King of Fighters look bad too, Metal Slug isn't that bad but The King of Fighters looks like garbage.
You just can't win!
SirDrexl
07-07-2006, 07:24 PM
Metal Slug and KOF were NeoGeo games that ran at 320x240 (or something not far from that). In order for them to be accurate, they had to stay at that resolution.
WhiteHenDecapitator
07-09-2006, 02:46 PM
I wonder if there is a way to force a specific video mode to make these games a little more playable, perhaps even a patch of some sort.
What a shame to have to play these games in any other mode than VGA!
WhiteHenDecapitator
07-09-2006, 03:23 PM
I have done up a few screenshots just to show comparison between a hi-resolution 2D fighter, and a low-res 2D fighter...
The good...
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7648/200607091151593eo.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091151593eo.jpg)http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9928/200607091152072fw.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091152072fw.jpg)http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5300/200607091153248yd.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091153248yd.jpg)
http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/3674/200607091153455oc.th.jpg (http://img324.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091153455oc.jpg)http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/4431/200607091154061jg.th.jpg (http://img324.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091154061jg.jpg)http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9194/200607091154267ww.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091154267ww.jpg)
The bad...
http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/7627/200607091156071hw.th.jpg (http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091156071hw.jpg)http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/475/200607091156330by.th.jpg (http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091156330by.jpg)http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7514/200607091156544md.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091156544md.jpg)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2203/200607091157169nb.th.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091157169nb.jpg)http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5106/200607091157387js.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091157387js.jpg)http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6209/200607091158226tv.th.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200607091158226tv.jpg)
The Ugly...
http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/18609/augly1.jpg
Enjoy.