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j_factor
07-06-2006, 02:54 AM
We all know that Atari split into two companies in 1984. Warner sold the console/computer divisions to Jack Tramiel, and it became Atari Corp.; Warner retained Atari Games, which included the arcade operations, as well as AtariTel. The AtariTel division of Atari Games was sold off to Mitsubishi, and the Atari Games division of Atari Games Inc. (ugh!) was sold to Namco, with Warner renaming their remaining slice Atari Holdings, which had one division. That division, Atari Adventure, was sold to Adventure Properties, and Atari Holdings remained an official division of Warner but had no assets or operations. Atari Games became independent of Namco and formed Tengen (for console games) and Atari Operations (operations of actual arcades). Namco bought Atari Operations from Atari Games which they had previously owned (wtf), and it was renamed/merged a few times with other Namco arcade operations, now called Cybertainment. Atari Games was bought by Time Warner and renamed TWI, then bought by Midway and renamed Atari Games again, and then re-renamed Midway Games West, and eventually shut down. Atari Corp. merged with JTS, shut down operations, its IP sold to Hasbro, and then Hasbro sold the entire Hasbro Interactive division to Infogrames, who renamed GT Interactive as Atari Inc.

So in theory, what is now called Atari should own the consoles and computers and games for them, and Midway should own the arcade hardware and games.

Midway published Arcade's Greatest Hits: The Atari Collection. But then Atari Anniversary Edition was published by Atari. Both of these releases are compilations of early Atari arcade games. So do both companies own the same games somehow? I have noticed that the Midway Arcade Treasures releases include Atari Games releases like Toobin' and Paperboy, but not pre-'84 Atari games like Centipede and Tempest. There was a second Atari Collection by Midway that included 4 Atari Games releases and 2 older Atari arcade games; however, that was back in 1997. Did Midway somehow lose the rights to those older games? Also, how do those Jaguar sequels (Tempest 2000 etc.) fit into it? The Saturn releases of Tempest 2000 (Atari Corp.) and The Atari Collection (Midway) came out at almost the same time, and they both include the original Tempest on them.

@_@

tom
07-06-2006, 03:00 AM
confusing to say the least

Sothy
07-06-2006, 04:28 AM
/head melts

Tron 2.0
07-06-2006, 04:37 AM
Now i'm realy confuse who is the real atari?

sharp
07-06-2006, 07:42 AM
As far as I know Midway own the rights of the Atari Games releases themself. The arcade games before have the strange situation that a lot of those games were released for Arcade and homesystems. So I think it's posssible that both parties can release these games these days. But it would be hard to say, especially as I don't know what happend exactly.

Push Upstairs
07-06-2006, 08:09 AM
I've read that Atari thing twice and all i can say is:

What?

Sanriostar
07-07-2006, 11:20 AM
Atari has been fractured, sent across time, and now must get all of it commponent incarnations back together. Each piece has been sent into the Dead Zone Of Gallifrey to seek reunification at the Tower of Rassilon, where Infogrames secretly seeks the ring of Rassilon for Immortality.

It all makes perfect sense to me... :eek 2:

irata
07-07-2006, 11:39 AM
Reading all this makes me depressed (once again) that Bushnell ever sold it.

7th lutz
07-07-2006, 12:28 PM
This can go back to the Tramiel era. At the time there was old 2600 arcade titles that were released again after the 2600 jr came out like Crystal castles,and gravitor.

I think what happened was Tramiel owned the rights of the arcade conversions of games that were trademarked on home game consoles

If that wasn't the case atari couldn't released old 8 bit computer aracade conversions that first came out before 1984. when the xe came out some those games were repackaged in labels and boxes.

The new "Atari" has the same rights as jack and his family had with game titles.

Kid Ice
07-07-2006, 03:01 PM
I read an article on Next Generation today that explains the Atari ownership transitions a bit.

link (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3357&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=1)

j_factor
07-07-2006, 08:17 PM
Thanks for that link.

I'm still curious though, how come Midway was able to put pre-split Atari arcade games on compilations in 1996 and 97, but it seems like they couldn't use any of them for Midway Arcade Treasures?

KingCobra
07-07-2006, 09:37 PM
Hahahaha... @_@

I can see that, Midway = Bally/Williams merger back in the day right?

Dang! Bought, sold, and traded like an old O.J. Rookie card!? Sheeeeeeesshhhh....

mikeetler
07-07-2006, 10:04 PM
I'm still curious though, how come Midway was able to put pre-split Atari arcade games on compilations in 1996 and 97, but it seems like they couldn't use any of them for Midway Arcade Treasures?

I'm pretty sure that came from a cross licence with Atari Corp that was supposed to land NBA Jam and Troy Aikman Football on the Jag. I might still have Atari Corp annual reports from '95/6 but it would take some time to locate them.

j_factor
07-08-2006, 02:48 AM
Ah, now that makes sense. I suppose that would also explain how Atari Corp. was able to make Defender 2000?

AB Positive
07-09-2006, 09:24 PM
Atari has been fractured, sent across time, and now must get all of it commponent incarnations back together. Each piece has been sent into the Dead Zone Of Gallifrey to seek reunification at the Tower of Rassilon, where Infogrames secretly seeks the ring of Rassilon for Immortality.

It all makes perfect sense to me... :eek 2:

He who loses wins... and he who wins shall lose.


-AB+