Worst Nintendo Console

[CosmicMonkey]

Gamecube.

I think it's a very well designed machine, and the Wavebird is excellent. Unfortunately the game selection really lets it down. The N64 on the other hand should have been CD based and had a more user friendly pad (like that Hori one), but it's still better games wise. There are some quality GC games, but not enough to warrant one being set-up. The N64 on the other hand, I can think of a good 20 games I want to [re]play.

Personally, I think Nintendo's biggest failures are its add-on units. The Famicom Disk System was successful enough I suppose, but everything after that is a bit crap. Satellaview was an excellent idea, but limited to certain areas of Japan. It's a shame because it was a brilliant idea I'd loved to have experienced. The Super Fami CD was a no-show and a saga in itself and the 64DD began as potentially the greatest thing ever, and ended up as a Japan-only release with hardly any games (and no Zelda!). I'm sure the GBPlayer for the GC sold quite well, so I'll let that one go.

[AlphaNerd01]

My first system was an NES, kentuckyfried. Then I got a Sega Master System, then a Genesis, then a GameBoy, then an SNES, then a GameGear, theeeeeeeeen an N64. So much for "showing my age", unless you were referring to someone else? LOL

I own all consoles in question, and a nice library of games for all consoles. My decision was solely based on the system's titles (as I stated) and the "I have everything I need" feeling a system gives you. The Cube doesn't give you that feeling, it makes you feel like, "awesome, N64 with tiny discs instead of carts... and memory cards... rad..." :/

DON'T get me wrong, I like the Cube a lot, but c'mon, its top titles are all rehashed N64 games, seriously. The Cube tries to do what the N64 did and doesn't quite pull it off. Yes, I do admit that Four Swords is a good addition to the LoZ franchise, but c'mon, its no OoT or MM. Lets face it, Cube has a lot of good add-ons and controllers and whatnot, but the N64 didn't have a drought of games.. I didn't buy a PSone until 1998 cause my N64 was enough.

The Cube isn't the OBVIOUS choice. It's definately inbetween Cube and N64, but I mean, for me, the N64 packed more of a punch, especially in the marketing department. ("GameCube... the kute konsole for kiddies?" ... I hear that all the time.) The N64 had Goldeneye, Mario 64, LoZ:OoT, SW:E1R, Mario Kart, ect. ect. ect. ect. The GameCube has ... Rogue Agent?, Mario Sunshine (blech), LoZ:WW, SW:RSII, Mario Kart DD (eh..),
ect. ect. ect. Great system, but a lot of it is just like a rerun. "Hey, I remember this one... I'll change it when a commercial comes on." :roll:

[j_factor]

N64 by a long shot.

How can anyone say Gamecube doesn't have as many good games? I own over 40 games for Gamecube (that I think are good), and I'm not done with the system yet. I don't own an N64 currently, but if I did, there's no way I'd ever have that many games for it. I think N64 had 20 good games, maybe 25 if you really stretch it. Yeah, 25 at the absolute max. Sure it had some good titles from Nintendo, and I loved DMA's efforts, but its library of good games was very small overall. I felt N64 had a higher percentage of its library being shovelware.

Several of the games that N64 fans tend to point to are games that I found to be disappointments. Majora's Mask, Banjo Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, Mario Party, Donkey Kong 64, etc. are not games that I ever want to play again. Especially Banjo Kazooie. I don't know how anybody can put up with such ridiculous collect-a-thon gameplay. I just can't grasp that anyone would seriously think it's fun to romp around 3D areas just to rack up 9 different kinds of trinkets.

Some of the other games that have been mentioned as being good on N64 are much better on other systems. Why would I want to play the N64 version of Gauntlet Legends when it's so much better on DC? Why would I bother with the N64 version of Ocarina of Time when its Gamecube port is de-blurred and has additional content?

A couple Gamecube-voting people have said that they didn't like Gamecube's "reruns" (as one person put it) like Double Dash, Celda, and so on. I actually don't like those games either. But Gamecube had some other greats that put it ahead. N64 didn't have anything like Pikmin, Metroid Prime, Killer 7, Super Monkey Ball, Prince of Persia, Alien Hominid, Skies of Arcadia, Wario Ware, etc.

However, if we were including handhelds, I'd have to say that GBC was the most disappointing thing Nintendo ever put out.

[dreamcaster]

The GameCube. No other console has provided me with more disappointment.

Even the much overrated NES, with it's immense library of crap is still able to boast three awesome Mario games.

[RetroYoungen]

I'm going with the GC. Just because of the lack of 3rd party support, a sub-par Mario game and Celda.

I have to agree. Some absolutely beautiful games have been released on the GC (Animal Crossing and Eternal Darkness being two such examples), but overall I'd have to say that the lack of quality third-party support really killed it.

[AlphaNerd01]

Agreed. Banjo Kazooie does NOT stand the test of time at all, and Pikman is an awesome game. However, honest, the MUST-HAVE titles on the Cube compared to the MUST-HAVE titles on the N64.. it's close, seriously, I'm rethinking this again and again.

I don't think MM is as disapointing as WW was to be honest. But here's what we all forgot. TP for GC. Now doesn't that add a drop to the hat. (Granted its coming out on the Wii as well, but lets be fair.)

Man, this was a great idea for a thread.. but still, I think the N64 as a Nintendo home console was better than the GC. I want to stress that I own two GCs, one for console play and one for the GB Player, and I love both of them. But I still think a lot of the games on the system (not all) are simply just rehashes.

Granted, Metroid Prime, Pikman, even Animal Crossing are ALL awesome games. But then the poorly implemented GBA connectability comes to mind. Then I remember the belief in the non-hardcore gaming part of the industry that the GC is the "kiddie konsole." I hate that. I really do. Honestly, if the GC had a blow-away Mario title, and perhaps a Blast Corps-like sleeper hit, I'd be swayed. Maybe even when TP comes out I'll be swayed. I honestly can't be too sure.

(Further) I want to STRESS that this debate is only over game library. If the debate included hardware and even the controller issue, the NES would seriously be on my mind. My hand cramps using the NES controller (I have big hands), and the NES hardware is garbage. But like I said, the NES has SO MANY good titles on it, it'd be a sin to call that a bad system, not to mention the worst.

I think it's fair to say the GC and N64 are both neck and neck for being Nintendo's "eh" consoles, but looking back, the GC just seriously has looked and been lukewarm, besides a few grand slams, pun intended. (... I'm referring to Mario Superstar Baseball, as an obscure example.)

[YoshiM]

The N64 was the greatest multiplayer experience ever IMO.

Egads...I totally forgot to acknowlege that. Some of the best memories of the system were with friends. Goldeneye matches, Excitebike races, Waverace stunt competitions....great times.


How can anyone say Gamecube doesn't have as many good games? I own over 40 games for Gamecube (that I think are good)

That's the thing with these polls: so overly subjective. To compare, I own roughly 30+ N64 games and a mere 7 if you include the demo discs (Rogue Squadron and the demo set with Splinter Cell/Billy Hatcher/etc). I mentioned the rereleases/remakes in my post and I still stand by it. I like F-Zero X better than GX as the craft handle better and the game design flowed better (as opposed to the oddball story mode in GX). Mario 64, while dated, felt more "Mario"-ish than Sunshine. Waverace Blue Storm I swear was a graphic overhaul of the original with more realistic water physics (yawn).

As for more "original" content, the Cube got a lot of ports that usually got pushed aside by critics and reviewers and eventually forgotten altogether with various head-to-had comparisons. Personally I went for the Xbox ports as they were "better" on a technical scale. Cube exclusives were somewhat few and didn't really rock the boat.

In regards to the games being good on N64 being "better on other systems", people can argue this until they are blue in the face. Why play Resident Evil 4 on the Cube when you can play a near spittin' image on the PS2 that also has exclusive content? While I used the comparison of Gauntlet Legends on N64 and PS1, it was a generational comparison. Dreamcast was "next gen" and their version better look better. Oh, one thing the N64 version had the DC version didn't was a more "adventure" game feel-you could turn the powerups on and off, allowing them to be sold. And personally I prefer the "blurring" in Oot (which I really can't notice) onthe N64. The "cleanup" really didn't make the game look a whole lot better.

The Cube games you mention that "put it ahead"...how so? I'll give you Pikmin and Super Monkey Ball-those are some pretty unique titles (even though I didn't get into Pikmin, I'll admit it was fresh). While I enjoyed Metroid Prime, take the Metroid license away and you have a first person shooter with adventure and platforming elements that people may or may not have flocked to as much as M.P. Prince of Persia, Skies of Arcadia, Wario Ware and to some extent Alien Hominid are ports. If the Cube didn't exist, these games still would have and wouldn't have been brought into a Nintendo console comparison. Killer 7....stumped on that one. I never played it, looks totally psycho and I have no idea if it would have come to fruition if the Cube wasn't around. Call that one a draw :p .

It's early to see what impact the Cube had on the industry, but the N64 did have its impact. Lots of trends got started thanks to some 64 firsts. Some not so good as others (like the beforementioned racing glut on the system or the industry wide scrambling to make kart racers....Super Bombad Racing...yuck.). That alone should make the N64 rise up from the crap pile people seem to like putting the system in.

[cyberfluxor]

God damn this thread soared behind my back. LOL

I chose N64, not because it's the worst rather because it was the transition to 3D. The issue I had with 32-bit systems was their push to get 3D on their systems and it looked nice then but of course it looks like complete crap now. I wish companies would have held back on trying to push limits to go 3D, and therefore I think a lot of N64 games could have kicked ass being 2D instead. I know a TON of people will disagree, but the Zelda games on the N64, although looked top knotch at the time, I think staying with the 2D roots would have been freaking awesome! If every N64 game were built like Mario64, Zelda, Banjo, and Conker then I'd give more ups to the N64. Other than that, a ton of the games kicked ass, although once again people declair it a kids consule, and I beg to differ since I own over 60 games on it AND most everyone 1 of them are not teen or kids rated and kick much needed ass. :)

Second place is the GameCube because they just didn't market it well for game developers, but it has its gems. ;)

Best is SNES with all the fun adventure, role playing, and racing games.

[Xizer]

The PS1 is the most disappointing system ever, though. I finally got around to getting one a year ago and it just doesn't live up to the hype. All the supposed great games and killer apps on the system just seem mediocre and not as well done as the N64's killer apps.

And how could you not like the GameCube? It's the best designed system ever. It looks awesome, and controller is super comfy. I've got at least 60 GameCube games sitting on my shelf right now that I'd consider excellent.

The NES is overhyped because of the nostalgia factor...playing an NES game today just isn't as fun as playing a SNES, N64, or GameCube game...so why doesn't it qualify as the worst? Then there's the annoying rectangle controller...cart blowing...no saving...the annoying beeps and bloops...it's so primitive and annoying today.

[Daltone]

However those of you who used the "same but prettier" reason for picking the GC as the worst Nintendo console, would you use the same reasoning and pick the PS2 over the PS1 in the same kind of poll for Sony systems? Why or why not?

Nope, half of the big franchises from the PS1 era - Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, etc seem to have suffered in the move to PS2 until recently when some pretty major changes have been made. The PS2 has such a huge library of first and third party games (the latter I will actually play as I didn't find the controller prohibative) that new series - Prince of Persia, Time Splitters, Ico etc have come to the fore.

EDIT: I realise that this is horribly unfair - almost completely ignoring 3rd party stuff for the Cube. It's just that with every multi-platform title I've bought the control has seemed awkward. Basing your controller around one big green button does not seem the way to go for most stuff. That could just be me though.

[MrSmiley381]

N64 had great games, but it was so blocky and the games were so expensive that it gets killed.

Just so you know, though, Ogre Battle 64 is in my top 5.

[Nesmaster]

I voted for the Gamecube. While a great console in it's own right with some truly great games, it just doesn't stack up.

To me it lacked the brilliant 1st party games of the N64, and doesn't even compare to the greatness of the SNES and the NES IMO.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The Gamecube IS good in it's own right, it's just the "worst" of the rest listed, in my opinion. :)

[Bronty-2]

The PS1 is the most disappointing system ever, though. I finally got around to getting one a year ago and it just doesn't live up to the hype. All the supposed great games and killer apps on the system just seem mediocre and not as well done as the N64's killer apps.

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The NES is overhyped because of the nostalgia factor...playing an NES game today just isn't as fun as playing a SNES, N64, or GameCube game...so why doesn't it qualify as the worst? Then there's the annoying rectangle controller...cart blowing...no saving...the annoying beeps and bloops...it's so primitive and annoying today.

re the ps - I'd agree that the games don't hold up that well today - but the point is they looked good back then.

nes - again, mind blowing back then. Some games do seem kind of primitive now, although some still *shine* (tyson, super c, SMB etc)

Are you a younger guy? I think most people who played those machines back then would agree that they kicked ass, although if you don't have the benefit of that perspective I would see where you're coming from.

[cmstar]

I go for the N64. Personally, I don't see what is so great about Goldeneye. Then again I do not like anything resembling a First Person Shooter.

I remember Mario 64 and Pilotwings blew me away when I got the system..., but other than Zelda, it never did much for me. I also don't think the games hold up in graphics or gameplay over time as well as the other systems.

Be that as it were, I LOVE the system, I just think it's the worst out of the available options to choose from.

And why do people hate on the VB so much? WarioLand for and Red Alarm were incredible games.

I honestly wish they'd release some headmounted display for the WII. ...

[milhouseOFpain]

N64 - i just dont get how anyone can like it. just thinking about the system makes me angry.

i have no facts or thoughts to back up my opinion, but i firmly stand behind it. the Nintendo 64 is the worst "mainstream" console ever released.

[alec]

OK, I was gonna vote for 64, but decided to say Gamecube. Even though Gamecube has more games, 64 has better games. Mario and Zelda for Gamecube fucking suck. 64 on the other hand had decent ones.

Don't get me wrong, Nintendo 64 was the biggest dissapointment that Nintendo has ever delivered. But I would rather play Mario 64 than Mario Sunshine and I would rather play OoT than Windwaker.

Nintendo turned around alot of the negative aspects of the 64 system when they released the Gamecube, but they turned all their franchises into GARGBAGE.

Also, I remember how cool N64 was upon release for having 4 controller ports!

[dreamcaster]

Well, the way I see it;

GameCube = superior hardware, inferior software.

Technologically, the N64 is crap. Difficult to programme for, cartridges, delicate joysticks. It's not exactly a triumph of console design.

But it's the games that matter. GoldenEye 007, Lylat Wars, Top Gear Rally, San Francisco Rush, Super Mario 64, Pilotwings 64, Mario Kart 64, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, Blast Corps, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Perfect Dark, Re-Volt, World Driver Championship, Vigilante 8, Mario Party 2 and so on are all reasons I still play the N64 to this day and love it so.

For me, the GCN has Super Smash Bros. Melee, F-Zero GX, Ikaruga, Super Monkey Ball, Resident Evil 4 and Pikmin 2 - and even then, Ikky and RE4 aren't GCN exclusives. SSBM and F-Zero GX are the N64 franchises that went to the GCN and became better. Super Mario, Zelda, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Party all became less fun in their transition to the GCN.

[Xizer]

OK, I was gonna vote for 64, but decided to say Gamecube. Even though Gamecube has more games, 64 has better games. Mario and Zelda for Gamecube fucking suck. 64 on the other hand had decent ones.


Super Mario Sunshine kicks Super Mario 64's ass. SM64 had the shittiest camera ever conceived. And Zelda is way better on the GameCube...

On the Cube, you've got
Zelda: Ocarina of Time / Zelda: Master Quest
Zelda: Collector's Edition
-Legend of Zelda
-Zelda II
-Zelda: Ocarina of Time
-Zelda: Majora's Mask
Zelda: Four Swords Adventures
Zelda: Wind Waker
Zelda: Twilight Princess

The N64 has...drumroll...
Zelda: Ocarina of Time (on GameCube with better graphics)
Zelda: Majora's Mask (on GameCube with better graphics)

So that "N64 has better Zeldas" argument just flies right out the window, considering the fact the GameCube has all the N64 Zeldas and 6 more.

I gotta say, the NES is pretty damn disappointing. After all the hype I got one and found out the games just suck. They're not "classic." If they were classic they'd still be fun to play...

[VG_Maniac]

For me...it's the GameCube. There were only a small few games on the GCN that I really got into.

Oh, and after reading Xizer's post...I was thinking how many Zeldas it's possible to play, in some form or another, on the GameCube...if you count the Game Boy Player as part of the GameCube.

The Legend of Zelda (on Zelda Collector's Disc)

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (Zelda Collector's Disc)

Zelda: A Link to the Past (not the SNES version, but you can play the GBA version on the Game Boy Player)

Zelda: Link's Awakening (play on the GB Player)

Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Collector's Disc and Master Quest Disc)

Zelda: Majora's Mask (Collector's Disc)

Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (Play on GB Player)

Zelda: Oracle of Ages (Play on the GB Player)

Zelda: The Wind Waker (duh)

Zelda: Four Swords Adventure (duh)

Zelda: The Minish Cap (Play on GB Player)

Zelda: The Twilight Princess (duh)

Yep, the GCN is definitley the system of choose if you're a Zelda fanatic.

[aaronpetrosky]

The NES with Super Mario alone is better then the 64 and all it's great games.

Remember if it wasn't for the NES and it's success you wouldn't have that pile of 64 crap to treasure.

[GrayFox]

N64.

Not that I hate it, but to me its the worst.

First off, terrible controller.

Second off, some of the best titles on the system, OoT and Majora, are playable in better form on the Gamecube and such. Even Super Mario 64 can be played on the DS if desired, even though I'd rather rock the 64 version.

[Jibbajaba]

I voted for the N64, but that's not to say that I think it is a bad system. But it is the worst Nintendo system. I hated the controller the first time I picked it up. If almost all of the games were going to use the analog stick, then why is it put in the middle of the controller, so that I have to hold the controller in such an odd manner?

The N64 has some really good games though. The Mario Party games are great, and Mario Kart 64 is my favorite game in the series. But the inferior graphics, inferior controller, and higher-priced games stopped me from ever buying an N64 in the mid to late 90's, as I was perfectly happy with the Playstation.

Re: Xizer I think it's funny that the Ninty fanboy has to first take a shot at the playstation (which has nothing to do with the thread) and then go on to trash the NES just because he is too young to appreciate how great it was.

Anyway, the N64 may not be as good as the other Nintendo consoles, but I think that any classic gaming enthusiast would be remiss were they not to include it in their collection. In general, I think that the first party titles have held up nicely.

Chris

[fishsandwich]

Beautiful story fish sandwich. It almost made me cry :bawling:

What I was attempting to get across with my "beautiful story" is that is hard for a younger person to really judge a whole range of consoles that span 20 years.

A person whose first gaming experiences were on the N64 or GameCube is going to have a different point of view that that of someone who was an active gamer when the NES made its debut way back in 1986.

Sure, any gamer can look at an NES game and try to be objective but I imagine it's hard to be truly objective when that person is used to thousands of polygons and millions of colors. It's difficult to go back with an open mind... just read some of the earlier posts. Excitebike on NES is a hell of a lot different from Excitebike on N64.

Those of us who played the NES when it was first released were playing on cutting-edge hardware AT THE TIME. It was about the best we could get without going to an arcade.

I'm not saying that younger gamers can't be objective... I'm just saying it's harder. Will younger gamers really immerse themselves in NES games for hours and days on end to see what the NES was REALLY like or will they just fire up an emulator on their PC, take a crack at a few of the best-reviewed NES games, and then write them off as old crap when compared to the eye candy of later generations of hardware?

[aaronpetrosky]

That's very true. Unfortunately that's how it is nowadays. When I used to coach soccer a year or 2 ago. I remember talking to players on my team about games and some didn't even know the NES existed. :eek 2:

I about fell over when I heard that. Nowadays all kids know is Madden, Halo and GTA.

[kainemaxwell]

Super Mario Sunshine kicks Super Mario 64's ass. SM64 had the shittiest camera ever conceived. And Zelda is way better on the GameCube...

Mario 64 was one the best for the N64. All Sunshine has was a super-powered Super Soaker.

[jcalder8]

After reading through almost all of the posts I didn't see anyone who explained why he or she voted for the SNES so I guess I get to be the first and then everyone can jump me.

I don't own a cube but what I have played of it I have enjoyed so I couldn't vote for that one. I still play my NES which shows my love for that system which leaves the N64 and SNES. First off what I like about the N64, for me the biggest draw was the 4 controller plugs. I love the fact that right out of the box you and 3 friends can play. Also I enjoyed the fact that it was still using carts in means zero load times and when you have a group together this is a good thing. There are a bunch of lackluster games but some of my favorite games to play with a group of people are on there: mario kart, perfect dark, goldeneye, wwf games...

Now on to the SNES while I do enjoy some of the rpgs on it there is are no real stand out games that bring me back to it. Even at the time that I bought it the number of games that I wanted to play for it were few and far between. I sold the SNES to get an N64 and never had any regrets about it and I still wouldn't own one if I hadn't been given.

[dreamcaster]

Super Mario Sunshine kicks Super Mario 64's ass. SM64 had the shittiest camera ever conceived. And Zelda is way better on the GameCube...
My problem with Sunshine was that it's camera was WORSE than SM64's. I felt that this was inexcusable. Also the levels were boring and un-fun. Fludd was a bad idea.

[ckendal]

I'd have to pick the NES. The games just don't hold up well today and are boring as hell. Really, with the Genesis and Super NES era, that's when games start holding up today and still being fun, because the graphics were good.

The Legend of Zelda is one of the most boring games I've ever played. Link to the Past and the 3D Zeldas are just way better.


Please remove your Nintendo Avatar and go sit in a corner for a while. The Legend of Zelda might be one of the best games ever and has been rated so by many, many people over the years. You wouldn't have half the games you have today if it weren't for LoZ. Hell it was even the first game to use a battery to save.

If you trash this game, you have no need for that Avatar. Ok I am done.

BTW, my vote was for the N64. I have the fewest games for that console than the other 3 and yes the controller sucks ass! 8-)

And the SNES might be the greatest console of all time!

[cmstar]

For me...it's the GameCube. There were only a small few games on the GCN that I really got into.

Oh, and after reading Xizer's post...I was thinking how many Zeldas it's possible to play, in some form or another, on the GameCube...if you count the Game Boy Player as part of the GameCube.

The Legend of Zelda (on Zelda Collector's Disc)

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (Zelda Collector's Disc)

Zelda: A Link to the Past (not the SNES version, but you can play the GBA version on the Game Boy Player)

Zelda: Link's Awakening (play on the GB Player)

Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Collector's Disc and Master Quest Disc)

Zelda: Majora's Mask (Collector's Disc)

Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (Play on GB Player)

Zelda: Oracle of Ages (Play on the GB Player)

Zelda: The Wind Waker (duh)

Zelda: Four Swords Adventure (duh)

Zelda: The Minish Cap (Play on GB Player)

Zelda: The Twilight Princess (duh)

Yep, the GCN is definitley the system of choose if you're a Zelda fanatic.

So basically, it plays all (or at least a version of all) Zelda's made other than the CD-I ones.

[Xizer]

My problem with Sunshine was that it's camera was WORSE than SM64's.

Worse? WTF? With the C-Stick you had complete fluid camera movement...with the C buttons the camera would lurch around awkwardly making an annoying noise.

This vote is about which the worst Nintendo system is today, not 20 years ago. And today, the NES just doesn't hold up with the SNES, N64, and GameCube. I'm not trashing Zelda, I'm sure it was good for its time...but today it is just boring. It didn't age as well as something like Super Mario Bros. which is still enjoyable today.

What the hell is wrong with the N64 controller? I thought it was very comfortable. Are you people holding it wrong? It's not that hard to figure out. For 3D games, left hand goes on middle handle, right hand on right handle. For 2D, left hand goes on left handle and right on right handle. Simple enough, and pretty comfortable.



Re: Xizer I think it's funny that the Ninty fanboy has to first take a shot at the playstation (which has nothing to do with the thread) and then go on to trash the NES just because he is too young to appreciate how great it was.

Too young to appreciate the NES? Hell no. The NES put Nintendo on the map, and it was awesome back in the day I'm sure. But it just doesn't hold up today. The PlayStation is applicable here because of the large number of people bashing the N64 for not being as good as the PlayStation. Don't even act like I dragged it in for no reason.

If I'm too young to appreciate the NES then why do I still like the TurboGrafx-16 or the SNES? The SNES is only one generation ahead of the NES yet it is among my favorite systems. Hell, there's even a few Atari games that are still fun today. Problem with the NES is, after playing all the great games' sequels on the SNES, you never want to go back to those primitive games.

[Push Upstairs]

I find both SMB 2+3 to be more fun than "World".

I also enjoy the variety of power-ups and worlds in SMB3 over that of SMW.

But I might not count as i owned an NES and never had an SNES.

[LAGO]

N64 got my vote. Mainly because of that shitty controller.

[j_factor]

Beautiful story fish sandwich. It almost made me cry :bawling:

What I was attempting to get across with my "beautiful story" is that is hard for a younger person to really judge a whole range of consoles that span 20 years.

A person whose first gaming experiences were on the N64 or GameCube is going to have a different point of view that that of someone who was an active gamer when the NES made its debut way back in 1986.

Sure, any gamer can look at an NES game and try to be objective but I imagine it's hard to be truly objective when that person is used to thousands of polygons and millions of colors. It's difficult to go back with an open mind... just read some of the earlier posts. Excitebike on NES is a hell of a lot different from Excitebike on N64.

Those of us who played the NES when it was first released were playing on cutting-edge hardware AT THE TIME. It was about the best we could get without going to an arcade.

I'm not saying that younger gamers can't be objective... I'm just saying it's harder. Will younger gamers really immerse themselves in NES games for hours and days on end to see what the NES was REALLY like or will they just fire up an emulator on their PC, take a crack at a few of the best-reviewed NES games, and then write them off as old crap when compared to the eye candy of later generations of hardware?

I disagree with this post on two counts. First, a minor quibble: the NES was not cutting-edge when it came out here. It was 2+ year old technology by the time it hit our shores. Compared to the Colecovision, it's not a huge leap IMO (other than Coleco's scrolling issue).

More relevantly, I disagree that people who are too young to have experienced a system in its heydey won't have an open mind about it. My first console was a Master System, and I was pretty damn young then -- I'm too young to have been around for the pre-crash consoles. And yet, there are lots of old games that came out before I was old enough to play them that I love. I may be unable to tell what it was really like to experience Centipede in 1980, but I still think it's a damn awesome videogame.

It's like how people who got into electronica in the late 90s with groups like Chemical Brothers can still appreciate Kraftwerk. Perhaps too specific of an analogy, but it'll have to do.

[zerohero]

N64 hands down. Its sad when there are a total of 10 games max that I would ever want to own. 1 of those is an Import (Sin & Punishment).

Also I'm looking at this from a (when I experienced it) point of view. And Nintendo 64 is still the worst. Anyone who chose NES/SNES as worst system because the games didn't age well, or any other reason, should be dragged out into the streets, stoned, and called a imposter fan boy.

On a side note, its bound to happen. Just as I consider the SNES/Sega the golden years of gaming, the kids that are growing up on playstation and N64 will think likewise. But I hope the majority of them dont. My dad still says Atari and Celico owns all. And says any games/systems after that make the games to easy and less challenging. 20 years later, I'm posting the same thing about SNES/Sega vs PSX and beyond lol.

[zerohero]

The PS1 is the most disappointing system ever, though. I finally got around to getting one a year ago and it just doesn't live up to the hype. All the supposed great games and killer apps on the system just seem mediocre and not as well done as the N64's killer apps.

And how could you not like the GameCube? It's the best designed system ever. It looks awesome, and controller is super comfy. I've got at least 60 GameCube games sitting on my shelf right now that I'd consider excellent.

The NES is overhyped because of the nostalgia factor...playing an NES game today just isn't as fun as playing a SNES, N64, or GameCube game...so why doesn't it qualify as the worst? Then there's the annoying rectangle controller...cart blowing...no saving...the annoying beeps and bloops...it's so primitive and annoying today.

Were you born in 1999? The PSX had some of the greatest games, largest libraries, huge 3rd party support, and at least 20 -30 must have games for anyone with any taste. I don't want to sound rude but damn man what was your first system again?

[funksoulfather]

I have no love for the N64

[BetaWolf]

Nintendo 64 by a long shot. It lacked a lot of games from good genres, such as RPGs. There was virtually no support from Namco, Capcom, or Konami, 3 very good 3rd parties which really helped Nintendo in the NES and SNES eras. As far as quality goes, Gamecube has been a bit of a revival.

[Xizer]

Were you born in 1999? The PSX had some of the greatest games, largest libraries, huge 3rd party support, and at least 20 -30 must have games for anyone with any taste. I don't want to sound rude but damn man what was your first system again?

Actually I was born in 1990. The SNES was my first system.

So yes, I was there when the PSX was around...but it was not a very appealing system. It's still not. The Dreamcast and N64 were a lot better imo. You just don't see that "Nintendo quality" with the PSX.

[zerohero]

Were you born in 1999? The PSX had some of the greatest games, largest libraries, huge 3rd party support, and at least 20 -30 must have games for anyone with any taste. I don't want to sound rude but damn man what was your first system again?

Actually I was born in 1990. The SNES was my first system.

So yes, I was there when the PSX was around...but it was not a very appealing system. It's still not. The Dreamcast and N64 were a lot better imo. You just don't see that "Nintendo quality" with the PSX.

That sounds like "fanboyism". I have high respect to Nintendo because its what I grew up on, but saying the PSX had nothing to offer just because it didn't give you that magical feeling is just silly. (NES, SNES, PSX, DC gave me that "magical" feeling btw)

And your just 16 right? Your opinion is borderline but I guess thats old enough to comprehend what anyone is saying. Case and point, you where what? maybe 10 years old when some big and heavy titles where comming out for the PSx? I mean Nintendo is designed for kiddies its a no brainer that you liked a Nintendo system, but you are "post era" NES and barly making it in time for SNES is what we are talking about so once agian, your age kinda kills your argument in that reguards.

[Xizer]

I still like Nintendo's system the best...and when I had my 64 in the 90s I owned games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, so I wasn't exactly playing just "kiddy" games. I also owned the Mortal Kombats for my Super NES. This is where your argument falls flat: Why do I still like Nintendo games today when I'm almost an adult? Shouldn't I like the PS1's supposed "mature" library?

So, why then do I still find PS1 games to just not match the N64's quality? Sure, there were a lot of 'em, and some were pretty good, but they don't match the polish of Nintendo and Rare's games on the 64.

Sure, I may not have been around when the NES was in its best days, but we're supposed to be looking through Nintendo's history and deciding which console is the least fun. Can you honestly tell me you have more fun, today, playing "The Legend of Zelda" than Ocarina of Time? Speaking of Ocarina of Time, that is one of the biggest reasons why I feel the 64 is better than the PS1. What PS1 game can match up to Zelda: OOT?

It's not fanboyism...I have a very robust selection of consoles. I have consoles made by Atari, Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, Sony, NEC, Panasonic, and who knows what else. I still enjoy the best of the N64's offerings today. Can't say the same about many PS1 games. In the end, it comes down to a matter of quality vs. quantity.

[zerohero]

I still like Nintendo's system the best...and when I had my 64 in the 90s I owned games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, so I wasn't exactly playing just "kiddy" games. I also owned the Mortal Kombats for my Super NES. This is where your argument falls flat: Why do I still like Nintendo games today when I'm almost an adult? Shouldn't I like the PS1's supposed "mature" library?

So, why then do I still find PS1 games to just not match the N64's quality? Sure, there were a lot of 'em, and some were pretty good, but they don't match the polish of Nintendo and Rare's games on the 64.

Sure, I may not have been around when the NES was in its best days, but we're supposed to be looking through Nintendo's history and deciding which console is the least fun. Can you honestly tell me you have more fun, today, playing "The Legend of Zelda" than Ocarina of Time? Speaking of Ocarina of Time, that is one of the biggest reasons why I feel the 64 is better than the PS1. What PS1 game can match up to Zelda: OOT?

It's not fanboyism...I have a very robust selection of consoles. I have consoles made by Atari, Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, Sony, NEC, Panasonic, and who knows what else. I still enjoy the best of the N64's offerings today. Can't say the same about many PS1 games. In the end, it comes down to a matter of quality vs. quantity.

My argument still stands. And if you think those games are hardcore mature than your still young. Anyway, the FACT is that Nintendo products all down through history have been designed to apeal to younger audiences/family PERIOD. So yes my argument still stands.

What PS1 game can match zelda? You need to be specific instead of broad. There are plenty of games that give the enjoyment of Oot. I personally find Lttp 10x better than Oot. Oot is good, but I can't help be see it as Mario 64 with a sword. PSX wise? Metal Gear Solid , Final Fantasy 7/8, Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy tactics,

Here is a small DP list....
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1570
Ace Combat 2
Ape Escape
Armored Core
Bomberman Party Edition
Castlevania: SOTN
Chrono Cross
Colony Wars
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Crash Team Racing
Devil Dice
Driver
Einhander
Elemental Gearbolt
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VII
Front Mission 3
G-Darius
Gran Turismo
Hot Shots Golf
Intelligent Qube
Jumping Flash 2
Medal of Honor
Metal Gear Solid
Micro Machines V3
Mr. Driller
Pac-Man World
Parappa the Rapper
Point Blank 2
Resident Evil 2
Ridge Racer 4 (RR4)
Roll Away
Silent Hill
Sled Storm
Soul Blade
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo
Syphon Filter
Tekken 3
Tempest X3
Tenchu
Tony Hawk 2
Twisted Metal 2
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Warhawk
Wipeout XL
WWF Smackdown 2
Xenogears
Xevious 3D/G



Quality vs Quantity? Nintendo 64 only has about maybe 15 games out of their SMALL library of good games. Even though PSX cranked out a bunch of bombs, the Huge and vast library of awsome games makes up for it. Anyone who has owned both systems knows this.

So yes, your still no offense to me a wanna be Nintendo Fanboy.

All of this is besides the point anyway, its your opinion so I can't realy debat it anyway, especially with someone who didn't really experience the NES on the same level. I just can't understand how anyone can rank the NES as the worst system Nintendo has put out. Its just so silly to me. But hey, your opinion.

[j_factor]

To me it's not really a case of "quality vs. quantity", but rather, "quantity of quality". If a system had mostly crap but 3 games that were absolutely amazing, possibly the top 3 games of all time, it would still be a system with only 3 good games. I don't care how good those 3 games are, that will never be enough for me. As a gamer, I need quantity of quality.

Anyway, I don't understand anyone's point with the N64 vs. PSX comparisons. Playstation is not part of the topic; Playstation could be the worst system ever, and it would still have no bearing whatsoever on the issue of NES vs. SNES vs. N64 vs. Cube. Slamming or praising Playstation doesn't have anything to do with N64 being better or worse than Gamecube.

[dreamcaster]

My problem with Sunshine was that it's camera was WORSE than SM64's.

Worse? WTF? With the C-Stick you had complete fluid camera movement...with the C buttons the camera would lurch around awkwardly making an annoying noise.
I say this because the camera in Sunshine caused me to die, something which never happened to me on SM64.

[Veepa]

Okay, I like the Nintendo 64 controller.

[Ascending Wordsmith]

I'm going with the N64 as well. My main reason is the controller. After years of comfortably held controllers like the original SNES pads, and the licensed ASCII pads, holding an N64 controller felt very awkward.

[daynum]

Okay, I like the Nintendo 64 controller.

Ha, yeah, me too.

I voted Gamecube but I don't particularly dislike it. I just think it has the weakest selection of games compared to Nintendo's other consoles. Of course there are still a number of great Gamecube games, but I have more favourites on NES, SNES and N64.

[zerohero]

The controller wasn't that big of an issue for me. I guess you get used to it. Everything else still stands.

[j_factor]

My problem with Sunshine was that it's camera was WORSE than SM64's.

Worse? WTF? With the C-Stick you had complete fluid camera movement...with the C buttons the camera would lurch around awkwardly making an annoying noise.
I say this because the camera in Sunshine caused me to die, something which never happened to me on SM64.

Really? That happened to me quite a bit in SM64. I would be going up a narrow ramp and the camera would swing around, making me fall off. It didn't help that Nintendo decided every level should be an island in the sky; I fell off the levels a lot.

[Lemmy Kilmister]

Although I don't really hate any Nintendo systems, I was sort of disappointed in the N64 and it's weak library of games. After all, I wasn't impressed with the 64 Zeldas (I still think they're good, just not godly like everyone makes them out to be), new releases were few and far between, and the overall lack of third party games being released for it.

With all that said, though, I still loved the Mario 64, Goemon, WWF, and Rush series on the 64.

[diskoboy]

N64 was total shit.

I honestly cannot think of one redeeming quality of the N64.

[turbosage]

I voted N64 because of the complete 360 change in gameplay style from NES and SNES to N64.

The SNES' torch was passed to the PSx. Amazing 3rd Party support and tons of variety in genres.

While the 64 unfortunately only covered 3D Platformers and FPS' well. Where were all the Fighing/RPG/Shmups/Puzzlers/Strategy/FUN games?
On Saturn and Playstation, thats where!


With the GC, while I do despise the gamepad, I feel it was a bit of revival of Nintendo. Nintendo is going in the right direction now after the follies of the N64...Blech!

TurboSage

[MegaDrive20XX]

N64, it could have been everything we dreamed of. KI Gold I was strongly disappointed when I was pointed out that the sound quality was weaker then the SNES Killer Instinct. It was funny, when after the years rolled by, I thought KI Gold was crappy, because of all the cool intros and such missing from the arcade KI2, but many forums, such as DP actualy loved it. So I gave it another whirl, and yes it does rock to this day surprisly even without all the cool ULTRA 64 extras that the arcade sports off. Yet when it comes to N64, it's a PSX wannabe, the US marketing of porting over PSX games to compete on the market was just plain sad, it should have been more original then that. Yet had it's small library of originality, just wasn't enough to gain attention away from the PSX sales at that time.

Whenever I get an N64, the first thing I gotta do is track down a WORKING controller and an expansion pak...pisses me off all the time.

SNES, NES, Cube never gave us this much hell. Why does N64 ya know?

Cube, 2nd. Sunshine I hate to death, because of the terrible camera angles, insane jumps that I just cannot pull off, and yes I agree with the camera angles, 3 to 4 clicks to get him facing the way I want..rather sad.

Yet releasing the Cube with such a tiny memory card was moronic when some of us nearly went "wtf" when trying to save a game of Super Monkey Ball for the first time...

As much as I hate to say this, the Cube controller should not be used for 2D compliation games at ALL! Even the lovely digital Hori Pad should have been re-designed as a dead-on SNES controller look alike, since I felt that the B, A, Y, and X buttons are the only problem with the controller. Y and X don't even feel like buttons, more like a "Start/select" options. Yet we are given the chance by a nice adapter to hook up a PS2 controller to your Cube. Just no way in hell can I stand playing Mega Man X Collection on that tiny d-pad that's almost smaller then the GBA's.

[dreamcaster]

So I gave it another whirl, and yes it does rock to this day surprisly even without all the cool ULTRA 64 extras that the arcade sports off. Yet when it comes to N64, it's a PSX wannabe, the US marketing of porting over PSX games to compete on the market was just plain sad, it should have been more original then that.
It's funny because the "ULTRA 64" arcade board which KI2 and Cruis'n USA were released on, were actually 32-bit boards. It makes the N64 versions of these games ridiculously inexcusable.


Whenever I get an N64, the first thing I gotta do is track down a WORKING controller and an expansion pak...pisses me off all the time.
Well, just do it once and then keep that N64. Then you won't have a problem. :P


SNES, NES, Cube never gave us this much hell. Why does N64 ya know?
NES had the blinking screen/connector issue.


Cube, 2nd. Sunshine I hate to death, because of the terrible camera angles, insane jumps that I just cannot pull off, and yes I agree with the camera angles, 3 to 4 clicks to get him facing the way I want..rather sad.
Indeed. My other problem is that Sunshine tries to combine adventure elements to the platforming formula - which I just can't stand. I loved Super Mario 64 and I hated what Rareware did with the genre with Banjo-Kazooie and Donkey Kong 64. I can't stand these collect-a-thons. I just want 3D platforming action, and SM64 does it best.


Yet releasing the Cube with such a tiny memory card was moronic when some of us nearly went "wtf" when trying to save a game of Super Monkey Ball for the first time...
Super Monkey Ball only uses 3 blocks, which is quite small. I find games like Pikmin 2 (27 blocks) or Animal Crossing (59 blocks or something?) more obnoxious.

[jajaja]

Thats why a own memorycard was included with Animal Crossing :)

[smokehouse]

After my rants on the N64 in other topics my vote is no surprise. To me the only redeeming titles on the N64 is Paper Mario, that is the only game I ever purchased for the system.

[Push Upstairs]

It's funny because the "ULTRA 64" arcade board which KI2 and Cruis'n USA were released on, were actually 32-bit boards. It makes the N64 versions of these games ridiculously inexcusable.

That info just makes the Crus'n USA/World ports that much more inexcusable.

There is a reason why the N64 is leading in the poll.

[Ernster]

Sorry but I can't take the lack of respect for N64 anymore. Who ever voted for N64 is a fool or never owned one back in the day. It was a magical system and sure it didn't live up to it's potential but to say that it's worse than GC is a downright joke. GC is a pathetic, boring system with poor 1st party titles and has little in the way of good exclusive 3rd party games.

N64 had quite a few exclusive 3rd party games , try finding a good racing or adventure game on GC?

Ok so you're not fools, just joking, but I really am puzzled how anyone can love the Gamecube more than N64.

Bring on the Wiiiiiiiiiiii 8-)

[aaronpetrosky]

N64 seems to be very popular in Australia which I find amazing since the NES bombed there.

[dreamcaster]

It's funny because the "ULTRA 64" arcade board which KI2 and Cruis'n USA were released on, were actually 32-bit boards. It makes the N64 versions of these games ridiculously inexcusable.

That info just makes the Crus'n USA/World ports that much more inexcusable.

There is a reason why the N64 is leading in the poll.
The N64's leading a poll because two overrated developers screwed up ports of two pathetically average arcade games? Yeah, I'm sure that's the fault of the N64. :roll:

Also, Cruis'n World was MUCH better on the N64.

[Ernster]

N64 seems to be very popular in Australia which I find amazing since the NES bombed there.

Actually the NES didn't bomb here in Australia, it did very well and outsold the master system :)

[scooterb23]

Ok so you're not fools, just joking, but I really am puzzled how anyone can love the Gamecube more than N64.

Super Monkey Ball :D

[MegaDrive20XX]

It's funny because the "ULTRA 64" arcade board which KI2 and Cruis'n USA were released on, were actually 32-bit boards. It makes the N64 versions of these games ridiculously inexcusable.

I totally agree


Whenever I get an N64, the first thing I gotta do is track down a WORKING controller and an expansion pak...pisses me off all the time.

Well, just do it once and then keep that N64. Then you won't have a problem. :P

Yet every N64 I find, ends up having the jumper pak, so I'm forced to do that like 1 out of the 5 times...


NES had the blinking screen/connector issue.

I was actually referring to the accessories needed in order to enjoy all games on your system (Controller, PSU, AV/RF, etc.)


Super Monkey Ball only uses 3 blocks, which is quite small. I find games like Pikmin 2 (27 blocks) or Animal Crossing (59 blocks or something?) more obnoxious.

Ever try saving the replays on the 59 memory card?

[MegaDrive20XX]

After my rants on the N64 in other topics my vote is no surprise. To me the only redeeming titles on the N64 is Paper Mario, that is the only game I ever purchased for the system.

That game, Zelda Majora's Mask and Orcarina of Time were the first two games to show me the N64 could really do. Even, the port of Resident Evil 2 blew me away that this cart was able to hold it all. (Sans-the EX battle mode however) I love the N64, yet because of the support and marketing it had, puts our poll in broad day light.

[MmmK413]

I voted N64 due to the almost complete lack of [good] RPG's.

[turbosage]

puzzled how anyone can love the Gamecube more than N64.



Well for starters the GameCube has about 4 times as many games. RPG fans and Shmup Fans have many reasons to like the GC over the N64.

Skies of Arcadia, Tales of Symphonia, Fire Emblem, Lost Kingdoms, PSO I,II,III, Ikaruga, amoung others....

The N64 was all FPS' and 3D platformers....

Its also funny when people talk about Zelda and Resident Evil games being great on N64, when EVERY Zelda and Resident Evil game is playable on GameCube. WIth a little help from the GameBoy player hookup its true!

N64 doesn't suck, but its the worst Nintendo console ever made!!

TurboSage

[MegaDrive20XX]

Its also funny when people talk about Zelda and Resident Evil games being great on N64, when EVERY Zelda and Resident Evil game is playable on GameCube. WIth a little help from the GameBoy player hookup its true!

TurboSage


Yes of course, but when I mentioned those games, I meant when they were released before the Cube arrived.

[dreamcaster]

Ever try saving the replays on the 59 memory card?

No, I never waste memory card space on pointless replays. :P

[Push Upstairs]

The N64's leading a poll because two overrated developers screwed up ports of two pathetically average arcade games? Yeah, I'm sure that's the fault of the N64. :roll:

Also, Cruis'n World was MUCH better on the N64.

No, the reason it's leading in the poll is because this system seems to have left a bad taste in an awful lot of peoples mouths.

And even if the "Crusin" games were the best game ever and had a flawless port you would still have to deal with that inadequate controller the N64 sported.

Also, years of talking about how the N64 was going to be great eneded up with anemic 3rd party support and a system that didnt really live up to systems that preceded it.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Ever try saving the replays on the 59 memory card?

No, I never waste memory card space on pointless replays. :P

Exactly, but if you tried, the Memory card would throw a fit..

[dreamcaster]

I'll agree that the N64 was a technical diasaster. Just imagine if it had used CD-ROM's instead of carts. The system would've been an unstoppable monster and the Saturn and PSX would've been nothing but a footnote.

All the developers that helped make the SNES great would've stayed on with Nintendo for the N64 - which was the main thing that hurt.

But, for me, I guess it's what was done with the console is what I like. I just has heaps of games I love.

Lylat Wars (StarFox 64)
Top Gear Rally
GoldenEye 007
San Francisco Rush
Super Mario 64
Pilotwings 64
F-1 World Grand Prix
Mario Kart 64
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Blast Corps
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Perfect Dark
Re-Volt
World Driver Championship
Vigilante 8

...and many others.

The N64 rates as my favourite Nintendo console, but, the SNES gets so close (in fact I'd probably say it's equal with the N64).

Super Mario Kart
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Top Gear 3000
Super Metroid
Super Mario All-Stars
Stunt Race FX
Donkey Kong Country
Pilotwings
Tetris & Dr. Mario
Super Aleste
Super Mario World
Nigel Mansell's World Championship Racing

...and more others again.

I'll admit that the N64's library is lacking in some aspects, but I find what's there is enough and for a system with such a small total game library to have so many games I like, it's gotta be good.

I have great difficult naming many NES or GCN favourites.

NES:
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 2
Super Mario Bros. 3
Dr. Mario
Gradius
Rainbow Islands
Adventures of Lolo 3
Life Force Salamander
Ice Climber

...and the Mario games were all re-done better on the SNES anyway.

GCN is about on par:
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Soul Calibur II (and I prefer it on Xbox anyway)
WarioWare Inc.
F-Zero GX
Ikaruga
Resident Evil 4

Also, I can't stand the GCN or NES controllers (although the NES controller is excusable because it was a pioneer).

[smokehouse]

The N64's leading a poll because two overrated developers screwed up ports of two pathetically average arcade games? Yeah, I'm sure that's the fault of the N64. :roll:

Also, Cruis'n World was MUCH better on the N64.

No, I’d say it’s the overbearing anti-aliasing that made everything blurry, the shit controller, the lame music, the lack of decent titles and the overpriced cartridge format that killed it.

[dreamcaster]

Okay, one thing I don't understand about people who complain about the N64's audio.

Yes, they weren't able to match the Saturn and PSX in terms of audio storage, but the thing is, everyone's more than happy to pledge allegience to the NES and SNES, where midi-music is standard. But if it's on the N64, it's awful? I don't get it.

Sure, it was outdated back in the day, but in retrospect, given the consoles well all claim to enjoy - does it really matter?

Plus I think the N64 sported some excellent soundtracks anyway. Listen to the music in Jet Force Gemini or Perfect Dark - you'd think you were listening to a CD-based console.

Hell they even managed to do Dolby Surround on Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day!

[BydoEmpire]

I don't get this N64 hate. The system was magic. Who wasn't in awe when they first saw Wave Race? Zelda: OOT? Paper Mario? Mario 64? GoldenEye? I voted it the worst Nintendo console, but come on. If I had to choose between cherry bie, chocolate pie, and banana cream pie, I'd say banana cream is the worst. But it's still a banana cream pie.

[Push Upstairs]

No, I’d say it’s the overbearing anti-aliasing that made everything blurry, the shit controller, the lame music, the lack of decent titles and the overpriced cartridge format that killed it.

Smokehouse pretty much nailed it...

except i've never really cared enough about its audio capabilites to even think about it.

[Tron 2.0]

N64 i didn't care for it's controllers.. and lack of third party suport.

Realy it's that simple to me.