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suppafly
07-23-2006, 11:22 AM
Im talking about great games that couldve been an all-time classic (á la zelda) if they only they`d come out on a more popular system.

My first pick would be PHANTASY STAR on SMS. Just imagine how much MORE popular it would be if it`d come out on Nintendo back then

any more ideas??? :D

Kroogah
07-23-2006, 11:37 AM
SNATCHER. Imagine if the PSX port came over here, advertised as "from the man who brought you Metal Gear Solid"

Hopefully SvC: Card Fighters Clash will get its due on the Nintendo DS.

suppafly
07-23-2006, 11:40 AM
SNATCHER. Imagine if the PSX port came over here, advertised as "from the man who brought you Metal Gear Solid

Agreed. I wonder why I didnt think about snatcher before!

Radiac
07-23-2006, 11:56 AM
Guardian Heroes. This game got very little run outside of Gamefan when it originally came out. If it had been on PSX I'm sure it would have been hyped up to oblivion. The fan base would have easily tripled if not more.

Psycho Penguin
07-23-2006, 12:08 PM
Air Zonk. It came out on T16 and is such an awesome little game, but if it came out on Genesis or SNES it would have been pretty popular I'd say.

Ascending Wordsmith
07-23-2006, 12:47 PM
I would like to have seen Beyond Oasis on the SNES. I know that's where Link lives but it coulda' been a nice experience.

Also, the Master System's version of Double Dragon would've been great on the NES.

CosmicMonkey
07-23-2006, 01:41 PM
Hmm, interesting. I suppose that had Burning Rangers been a Psone game, and if Skies of Arcadia was a PS2 game, then we would have seen sequels to both.

But then I wonder, would this be a good thing?

Certainly both games would have received a lot more interest.

Doom Gaze
07-23-2006, 02:53 PM
Hmm, interesting. I suppose that had Burning Rangers been a Psone game, and if Skies of Arcadia was a PS2 game, then we would have seen sequels to both.
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I don't know about that. Tales of Legendia for PS2, for instance, hasn't sold anything close to what Tales of Symphonia sold on Gamecube.

The fact is that when a game appeals to the hardcore gamer, it's not necessarily in its best interest to put it on the most mainstream of consoles.

Most of the very Japanese PS2 RPGs that aren't FF sold rather poorly on PS2, and I know they would have done much better on Gamecube; the fanbase of that system is comprised almost entirely of kids or hardcore gamers who want a good experience -- hence the strong sales of Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2, which appeal to the old-school hardcore crowd and sold next to nothing on PS2.

I'm going to say LOOM. Had it made it to consoles other than the Turbo-CD, I think it would have been noticed by more people. If only it survived to get ported to Saturn or even Sega CD.

DeputyMoniker
07-23-2006, 03:25 PM
EDIT: Great thread!!

Devil Dice and XI for PS1 and Bombastic for the PS2. Had they been on the Saturn & DC I think I'd hear about them more often. They are very unique puzzle/competition games and with all the tetris clones we saw in the 90's I think DD did a great job of introducing a new idea.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/DeputyMoniker/bombastic1.jpg

Memnon
07-23-2006, 03:31 PM
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, which tanked on the MSX. It could've been ported to the NES like the first one, or even the Genny or SNES. Heck, even port it to the SCD ala Snatcher, give it some good voiceovers and a cool animated intro and wala, instant classic.

j_factor
07-23-2006, 05:15 PM
If Croc had been on N64 it would've been ranked as a benchmark in 3D platformers.

Street Fighter III should've been on Saturn. It didn't get any home release until Double Impact came out on Dreamcast, and by then nobody cared anymore.

NeoZeedeater
07-23-2006, 05:29 PM
If Croc had been on N64 it would've been ranked as a benchmark in 3D platformers.
I can't tell if you're complimenting Croc or insulting the N64. ;)

MarioMania
07-23-2006, 05:44 PM
Street Fighter III should've been on Saturn. It didn't get any home release until Double Impact came out on Dreamcast, and by then nobody cared anymore.

It wouldn't look great, SF III was sprite Heavy..Even with the 4 MB ram cart the Saturn wouldn't play good

Jackattack
07-23-2006, 06:07 PM
Hey don't be hating on my croc like that! Maybe it was not Mario64 but it still was a fun game!

Also wasn't there supossed to be a sequel to Skies of Arcadia on the PS2! Skies is one of my all time favorites and would love to hear about it if anyone knows anything.


... So it looks like the port to the ps2 was canned... but what about a sequel... does anybody know about it.

j_factor
07-23-2006, 06:16 PM
Street Fighter III should've been on Saturn. It didn't get any home release until Double Impact came out on Dreamcast, and by then nobody cared anymore.

It wouldn't look great, SF III was sprite Heavy..Even with the 4 MB ram cart the Saturn wouldn't play good

They could've made a bigger RAM cart for the occasion.

Either way it would've been better than the PSX version of X-Men vs. Street Fighter. :D

j_factor
07-23-2006, 06:18 PM
If Croc had been on N64 it would've been ranked as a benchmark in 3D platformers.
I can't tell if you're complimenting Croc or insulting the N64. ;)

A little from column A, a little from column B. ;)

cityside75
07-23-2006, 07:09 PM
I'm going to say Tempest 2000 from the Jaguar. I know it was eventually ported to the other systems of the time, but from what I've heard the original is still the best, and by the time the ports were released the "newness" of the game had definitely worn off.

If that game had started life on the PSX/Saturn it would have been a big hit.

I guess on a related note, Tempest 3000 couldn't have been on a more obscure system than the NUON, so it would have benefited by being anywhere else, even the Game.com LOL

7th lutz
07-23-2006, 07:22 PM
WonderBoy 3: dragon's trap-sms
Golvellius: Valley of doom-sms

Both of these of these games would've been huge on the nes in being popular
Ballblazer-7800
I know this was on the 5200, and the nes. It also was on computers. To my understanding the nes version didn't do it justice. I think it would've been great on the sms.

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GaijinPunch
07-23-2006, 07:37 PM
Jet Set Radio could've been much bigger in all regions had it appeared on the PS2. Same w/ the Panzer Dragoon series, which wasn't a flop by any means, but none of them sold like gangbusters.

7th lutz
07-23-2006, 07:39 PM
Im talking about great games that couldve been an all-time classic (á la zelda) if they only they`d come out on a more popular system.

My first pick would be PHANTASY STAR on SMS. Just imagine how much MORE popular it would be if it`d come out on Nintendo back then


There would be a problem with Phantasy Star on the nes. At the time Phantasy star was made, there was no nes game as big as it at the time and it appeared like the nes wouldn't be able to handle Phantasy Star as well as the sms did.

The nes had problems with Ultima:Exodus. It was similar to Phantasy Star with 3d dungeons. Ultima:Exodus had graphical problems like your character in towns. I think Phantasy Star would've had the same problems.

The rpgs that impressed me on the nes Dw 3 and 4. They came out later then phantasy Star.

Some sms games would be great nes games with the improvements nes games shown later in the nes life. The nes wasn't able to handle 3d as well without slowdown or flicker.

Out of the systems out the late 80's in Japan and the U.S for a great fit for Phantasy Star outside of the sms, the pc engine would the best bet . The Pc engine would be great due to the fact the sms and tg 16 systems are both 8 bit systems with the Pc engine being a higher end 8 bit system along with the fact the pc engine came in the same year as phantasy Star did in Japan. The problem would be in the states. The tg-16 was less popular then the sms was before the internet in the states. Megadrive would've been a 2nd pick for it except for the fact Phantasy Star was on the megadrive later on and megadrive released one year later in Japan then Phantasy Star was.

chrisbid
07-23-2006, 07:57 PM
Im talking about great games that couldve been an all-time classic (á la zelda) if they only they`d come out on a more popular system.

My first pick would be PHANTASY STAR on SMS. Just imagine how much MORE popular it would be if it`d come out on Nintendo back then

any more ideas??? :D


phantasy star wouldnt have done any better on the NES than the SMS. PS was released before dragon warrior and final fantasy in the US, and neither of those games made much of a splash. nintendo had trouble giving away dragon warrior with the nintendo power promotion.

Nebagram
07-23-2006, 08:18 PM
Dunno about more famous given that it's just about the most widely famous cult game out there, but NiGHTS would've certainly been played by more people if it'd been on PSX or N64.

And certainly, if it'd come out five or ten years later, Elite would be just about the biggest game of all time. I still await the day they release Elite MMO with baited breath- mainly because it's the only way I'll justify spending £1500 on a new PC. (roughly 3 grand for my pals in the US)

j_factor
07-23-2006, 09:34 PM
I don't think NiGHTS would've worked on PSX or N64; it was very uniquely a Saturn game.

Jisho
07-23-2006, 10:00 PM
I don't think NiGHTS would've worked on PSX or N64; it was very uniquely a Saturn game.

but most things on Saturn would have been more popular if they were on a system that more people owned.

LiquidPolicenaut
07-23-2006, 10:28 PM
SNATCHER. Imagine if the PSX port came over here, advertised as "from the man who brought you Metal Gear Solid"

Be greatful that the PSX/Saturn port didn't come over here. It was a lackluster remake and the Sega CD version was infinitely better. At least we still got it in English here :)

Doom Gaze
07-23-2006, 11:13 PM
I think you guys are a little wrong about popular consoles. The fact is that games often get ignored on the very mainstream consoles -- we see it all the time. The game's popularity depends of the userbase of the console and not the size of the installed base.

That's why games like Viewtiful Joe or Tales of Symphonia sell so much better on Gamecube, despite it having one-fifth the installed base of PS2 -- its userbase is more of a hardcore gaming (well, that and kids) group and hence are more likely to pick up a game of quality over something like Madden.

j_factor
07-24-2006, 12:12 AM
I don't think NiGHTS would've worked on PSX or N64; it was very uniquely a Saturn game.

but most things on Saturn would have been more popular if they were on a system that more people owned.

I don't think so. Well, "most", maybe, it's hard to say. But it's not really like that. Either way, NiGHTS is definitely not one of those games, IMO.

It's like. In 2000, far more people owned a Playstation than a Dreamcast. But do you think Seaman would've been as big a hit on Playstation as it was on DC? I don't think so... I don't think there would've been as much of a market for it on PSX.

User base doesn't always determine it. Hell, there were some games that were on both Playstation and Saturn, and sold better on Saturn. In the US.

Also, since NiGHTS came out before N64 launched, N64 didn't exactly have more owners at the time.