View Full Version : 1994 powerfest and 1992 famicom competitions carts
JOLLERANCHER
08-04-2006, 01:45 AM
jollerancher's Gallery (http://pixpipeline.com/users/jollerancher) i just picked up a 1994 super nintendo powerfest cart with the games super mario bros "the lost levels", super mario cart, and ken griffey jr major league baseball and a 1992 super famicom challenge cart with the games super mario world, f-zero, and pilotwings. you can view my pics at the above link.
rbudrick
08-04-2006, 10:16 AM
That's awesome, JR! Thanks for the pics! A Powerfest '94 cart. Wow. You are probably the only one ever outside of Nintendo employees that has owned carts from every competition (well, I can't remember if you got a Donkey Kong Competition Cart, but you even had the StarFox Super Weekend carts, lol).
It's amazing how similar the carts are.
Now, the title screen of the 1992 SNES cart doesn't say "Campus Challenge" on it. Just "Nintendo Challenge." That doesn't mean anything really...the name may have been programmed in there before the competition name was decided. But what I can't figure out is that I did an interview with the winner of the 1992 Campus Challenge, and he said he never saw or had to play any SNES games in the competition. So, I still can't figure out why there was a NES and an SNES cart for the competition.
-Rob
jajaja
08-05-2006, 07:58 AM
Cool stuff :) This is the exactly same thing a guy from Sweden found some months ago. He also found it in Sweden, the USA version. Pretty wierd.
NintenDk
08-05-2006, 08:30 AM
Its not a mere coincidence, as I've heard mentioned before a Super Mario World, F-Zero, Pilotwings competition cart. One of the competitions the witness said was either in Canada or the US.
JOLLERANCHER
08-05-2006, 10:45 AM
Its not a mere coincidence, as I've heard mentioned before a Super Mario World, F-Zero, Pilotwings competition cart. One of the competitions the witness said was either in Canada or the US.i jsut think its a little strange that this one's in a super famicom cart.
Necrosaro420
08-05-2006, 12:32 PM
Nice Pickup there =)
Predatorxs
08-07-2006, 07:05 AM
Its not a mere coincidence, as I've heard mentioned before a Super Mario World, F-Zero, Pilotwings competition cart. One of the competitions the witness said was either in Canada or the US.i jsut think its a little strange that this one's in a super famicom cart.
It is kinda strange, but some of the snes test equipment which is roughly the same shape and size as your 2 campus carts, where used in the US for testing snes consoles, also have super famicom markings as well.
Kinda like this one on top of the snes in the picture below.
http://www.americansupernintendo.com/misq/decktester.jpg
So it might just be a case, that this was the nintendo standard, after all nintendo is japanese, so you can imagine alot if not all of this stuff comes from or originates from Japan!
So those big over size carts, where used when it came to test equipment, and the campus/powerfest stuff, instead of having long rom boards sticking out, it was easy to have the flat over size versions instead.
They are nice items, and very collectable, but when people start saying there's only 2 or 3 in the wild, i CAN'T believe any of that. Ex-employees, would still have this stuff, and also imagine how many were just thrown away, after the events.
they are out there, people that have them, just don't really no, or care about them, someone mentioned about the guy in sweden has one, so to say these are priceless or one-of-kind, is pushing it alittle. If you had the money and the resourses you could dig a few of these up over time.
*Edit* Nice find btw JR!
Predatorxs
08-07-2006, 07:13 AM
Right i was going through things and old links, and i found this video on google #Link# (http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_698666_Powerfest_94.htm)
I take back what i said about the powerfest carts!! there must be dozens of the damn things out there! maybe even a couple of hundred?
rbudrick
08-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Its not a mere coincidence, as I've heard mentioned before a Super Mario World, F-Zero, Pilotwings competition cart. One of the competitions the witness said was either in Canada or the US.i jsut think its a little strange that this one's in a super famicom cart.
It is kinda strange, but some of the snes test equipment which is roughly the same shape and size as your 2 campus carts, where used in the US for testing snes consoles, also have super famicom markings as well.
Kinda like this one on top of the snes in the picture below.
http://www.americansupernintendo.com/misq/decktester.jpg
So it might just be a case, that this was the nintendo standard, after all nintendo is japanese, so you can imagine alot if not all of this stuff comes from or originates from Japan!
So those big over size carts, where used when it came to test equipment, and the campus/powerfest stuff, instead of having long rom boards sticking out, it was easy to have the flat over size versions instead.
They are nice items, and very collectable, but when people start saying there's only 2 or 3 in the wild, i CAN'T believe any of that. Ex-employees, would still have this stuff, and also imagine how many were just thrown away, after the events.
they are out there, people that have them, just don't really no, or care about them, someone mentioned about the guy in sweden has one, so to say these are priceless or one-of-kind, is pushing it alittle. If you had the money and the resourses you could dig a few of these up over time.
*Edit* Nice find btw JR!
Well, the NWC 1990 carts were assembled in Japan and shipped here. I would imagine all the other competition carts were too.
Right i was going through things and old links, and i found this video on google #Link#
I take back what i said about the powerfest carts!! there must be dozens of the damn things out there! maybe even a couple of hundred?
WOW! video footage of this stuff is hard to find, so thanks!! I think the winner of the Powerfest told me (I'll have to check my notes later) that there should be at least 100 (or maybe he said 112, I don't remember) Powerfest carts in existence, and I think at least 50 Campus Challenge ones, according to its winner (well, the NES ones, anyway...dunno how many SNES ones, since the winner said he never had to play them and never saw them). Sometimes the staff members got to use a cart to practice in between shows so they didn't look like nimrods when they demonstrated how to play it...they could practice back at their hotel rooms. Nintendo often didn't ask for them back.
So, find out how many staff needed one for play back at their hotel room and you find out approximately how many are in the wild. I doubt there's more than say, oh, I dunno, maybe 10 out there.
-Rob
NintenDk
08-07-2006, 03:45 PM
Right i was going through things and old links, and i found this video on google #Link# (http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_698666_Powerfest_94.htm)
I take back what i said about the powerfest carts!! there must be dozens of the damn things out there! maybe even a couple of hundred?
gah I wanted to see it but I'm missing a plugin
JOLLERANCHER
08-07-2006, 05:00 PM
bump
NESaholic
08-29-2006, 11:24 AM
Are you selling these?
Predatorxs
08-30-2006, 06:50 AM
Are you selling these?
Ditto JollyRancher.. do you still have them? and are you going to ebay those puppies!?
Are you selling these?
Ditto JollyRancher.. do you still have them? and are you going to ebay those puppies!?
same question here.
and sweet jesus, what a find!
too bad that these will be way too rich for my blood in case you ever decide to sell them, JR...
does somebody have any information regarding the network port and what it was used for?
would love to see a dump of the roms and reverse-engineer em. =)
JOLLERANCHER
08-30-2006, 10:24 PM
Are you selling these?
Ditto JollyRancher.. do you still have them? and are you going to ebay those puppies!?
same question here.
and sweet jesus, what a find!
too bad that these will be way too rich for my blood in case you ever decide to sell them, JR...
does somebody have any information regarding the network port and what it was used for?
would love to see a dump of the roms and reverse-engineer em. =)yeah these will probably end up on e-bay someday. dont really need the money right now so there's no big rush. i was playing the powerfest cart the other day but those mario games always aggrevated me(stupid flying turtles). according to the guy i got them from there were only 12 made and he was in charge of all of them. he flew to every competition with them. and when it was time to return them he kept one, returned the other 11 and he said he's positive the others were taken apart and reused for something else.
he also told me that the super famicom cart was used for a 1 time competiton between 2 u.s. and 2 players from japan. the u.s. players sat in a room while the japanese players i think he said played in a stadium with thousands of people watching.
me and the person i got these from are now friends, in fact i took him and his future wife out to eat last week(least i could do was buy him a steak).
my opinion on these 2 carts is that if there was dozens of them around at least a few of them would have been found by now(and in dreamtr's safe).
i got 1 quick question for anyone who might have an answer. how much do some of you experts think they might be worth?
JOLLERANCHER
08-30-2006, 10:33 PM
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Predatorxs
08-31-2006, 10:44 AM
there worth about $50 each, but i'll give you $100 each and lets call it $250 total inc shipping LOL :P
I haven't got a clue really, putting them on ebay would be interesting thou.
That video clip i found that talked about the powerfest said the comp was held all over the states, and that was the system they used, so i'm thinking there's more than just 11??.
Now I'm not going to question your friend, since he worked in and around these comps, but i'm thinking there has to be more than just 11, and one even showed up in europe, which has already been discussed, (in this thread as well i think?)
It maybe that alot of these just either found there way onto shelves of former employee's, and a few probably made it to the garbage as well.
A college buddy of mine used to freelance for games mags here in the UK, and back in the early 90's, he did work for nintendo and sega based mags, and from what i gather, they had alot of proto/sample carts for various systems, as well as cd's, and every couple of months, they'd have a clear out of the office and all these samples/demo's/proto's just went straight to the trash. O_O
And alot of the nintendo mags got american snes proto's and samples, since the american versions of the games where released anything from 2 to 10 months before the PAL snes got them released, So reviewers and editors used the american and jap versions to do the reviews.
There must be people out there that have hoards of this stuff @_@ Just people that worked at these magazines and just held onto them! :-P
rbudrick
09-05-2006, 06:19 PM
I understand if you don't want to distribute the rom, but for your own personal sake, please get that baby backed up to preserve it!
-Rob
kralleman
10-09-2006, 06:54 PM
I'll be backing up my campus-cart ROMs soon, hopefully within the next few weeks. That will be a true relief I tell you.
Predatorxs
10-09-2006, 07:53 PM
I'll be backing up my campus-cart ROMs soon, hopefully within the next few weeks. That will be a true relief I tell you.
So do you have the same carts as JR? as in the 2 comp campus carts? If so any pics or more info would be nice!
:vamp:
badinsults
10-09-2006, 08:10 PM
I'll be backing up my campus-cart ROMs soon, hopefully within the next few weeks. That will be a true relief I tell you.
So do you have the same carts as JR? as in the 2 comp campus carts? If so any pics or more info would be nice!
:vamp:
http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/article.php?id=0790
JOLLERANCHER
10-10-2006, 12:10 AM
http://pixpipeline.com/s/6491f1ca46ac.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/6491f1ca46ac.jpg)
http://pixpipeline.com/s/e834cd186ef7.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/e834cd186ef7.jpg)
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http://pixpipeline.com/s/58845ffa65d7.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/58845ffa65d7.jpg)
the vase is rom the 1992 nintendo military challenge that the winner never claimed. i just picked it up and brought it home the other day and it is friggin big. if anyone wants to see more pics i'll add them. the vhs tapes are complete run downs of the campus challeng and nwc competition and although they are 1990's lame they are still interesting. whn i get around to making copies i'll send them to nicola and rbudrick
JOLLERANCHER
10-10-2006, 12:13 AM
http://pixpipeline.com/s/db695d917aca.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/db695d917aca.jpg)
http://pixpipeline.com/s/bada73da2334.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/bada73da2334.jpg)
also the jacket according to my friend is 1 of 12 made that given to some nintendo staff. it was originally just a campus challenge jacket that he added the other logo's to himself. he want $1000 for it but im quessing i'll have to put it on e-bay to try to make that happen.
kralleman
10-10-2006, 06:13 AM
Why don't you set up your own competitions with all that stuff? :) . Seriously, really cool to see all this stuff. Does the Campus VHS have any info on the competition cart? Anything about the dipswitches or the phone-line-jack?
We're all waiting with baited breath for the items to hit ebay.
Predatorxs
10-11-2006, 06:10 PM
JollyRancher every time you post a new pic or another bit of info, i get more green! LOL
But it's nice to see this stuff see the light of day!
badinsults
10-12-2006, 09:09 PM
If someone can make a little article on the 1994 Powerfest, I will put it up on Snes Central. I am busy with some other stuff, so I can't work on that at the moment.
rbudrick
10-16-2006, 04:19 PM
I've been looking for those tapes forever! I keep getting promises of a copy, but none ever came my way.
JR, you rule as usual, but especially for getting me copies when you can, heh heh LOL.
1992 nintendo military challenge
The 1992 who what now? Wazzat? Can't say I ever heard of it!
-Rob
kralleman
10-16-2006, 04:42 PM
1992 nintendo military challenge
The 1992 who what now? Wazzat? Can't say I ever heard of it!
-Rob
JR: Do you know what cart they used there? What games was in that competition?
Buyatari
10-18-2006, 08:55 PM
When I was in ROTC there was a SNES cartridge we used to simulate the rifle range. We had a mockup M-16 which was wired with a sensor and worked like a light gun. I was a collector at the time and YES the thought crossed my mind but I was a good soldier and left it where it was.
rbudrick
10-19-2006, 06:31 PM
When I was in ROTC there was a SNES cartridge we used to simulate the rifle range. We had a mockup M-16 which was wired with a sensor and worked like a light gun. I was a collector at the time and YES the thought crossed my mind but I was a good soldier and left it where it was.
OMG r4r3 grail!!1! OMG OMH!!!1
But seriously, wouldn't you have technically been doing your country a service by "borrowing" the game and rifle and dumping the rom and posting pics of the rifle? ;)
Tsk, Tsk.
-ROb
the rom is dumped and theres exactly one image of the gun available - a soldier with a gun thats two times the size of the tv he's aiming at. LOL
im not able to find it atm, but im sure someone here has a link.
the rom is dumped and theres exactly one image of the gun available - a soldier with a gun thats two times the size of the tv he's aiming at. LOL
im not able to find it atm, but im sure someone here has a link.
badinsults
10-29-2006, 05:24 PM
http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/history/macs.html
Buyatari
10-30-2006, 07:56 PM
Yeap thats the one we had to use during ROTC. Prior to this I was at basic training and they had the progrom on a C-64. But who cares about C64 :P
Buyatari
10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
the rom is dumped and theres exactly one image of the gun available - a soldier with a gun thats two times the size of the tv he's aiming at.
im not able to find it atm, but im sure someone here has a link.
I'll have to check I might have some photos of me using this in my army duds.
kralleman
11-01-2006, 09:50 AM
The auctions for the two comp. carts are over in 12 hours. How much will he get?
Predatorxs
11-01-2006, 01:00 PM
I don't think he's going to get the BIN price :P but you never know someone might put in a good best offer to take them? But i don't think they'll go at all?!
Buyatari
12-08-2006, 03:55 AM
Well word is one of the comp carts sold for 10k
snes-master
01-02-2007, 08:27 PM
Well I'm the lucky guy that ended up with the PowerFest '94 cart. I paid $10,000 for it. Some may think I'm crazy paying that much for a SNES game, but I feel the price will only go up on a one of a kind game like that. It also has a lot of sentimental value to me since I played in the competition in Albany, NY and won the trip to play in the finals at Sea World in San Diego, CA. I have been looking for this game for the past 12 years and have finally found it. I have posted some pictures and info on PowerFest '94 on my website at: www.snesmaps.com (http://www.snesmaps.com)
I will be typing out a story of my experiences with the PowerFest '94 in the near future and will add that to the site as I get it all typed in.
Rick
TheRedEye
01-03-2007, 12:39 PM
Well, I suppose congratulations are in order. You seem happy with your purchase, and I hope you enjoy it. And it's nice to see some clean emulator shots of the menus and such, can't say I'd mind seeing the score screens!
badinsults
01-03-2007, 12:57 PM
There are still some problems with dumping the game, so that might take some time.
TheRedEye
01-03-2007, 03:58 PM
There are still some problems with dumping the game, so that might take some time.
God, I'll bet. Good luck with that.
snes-master
01-03-2007, 05:16 PM
I have only gotten the screen shots from the Title Screen and the first screen for Super Mario Lost levels. I was only able to copy the competition part of the rom. The device I used to copy it can't recognize more then just that part of the game. When you hit start at the Super Mario Lost levels screen it just goes back to the title screen since none of the game data has been copied. Therefore I can't get nice screen shots of the rest of the game. I'm still trying to find a way to back up the entire game. I have a Super Wild Card that has an I/O port on the back. I just need to get the proper cable, and see if using that with Ucon on the computer lets me get the entire rom. If anyone has any suggestions for how to copy the whole thing, or want to loan me equipment that may be able to do the trick let me know.
The Super Wild Card I have is an older version. I got it back in 1994. There may be newer versions that can do the trick.
Rick
Predatorxs
01-05-2007, 04:52 PM
I used to have a Double Pro Fighter 32mb (back in 93-94'), it originally was a 24mb, once i had it upgraded it was able to copy all of the bigger sized games, it might be a point that the "whole game" (powerfest 94) is alot bigger than a usual game.
Just a thought?
badinsults
01-05-2007, 05:00 PM
If you want to dump the cart, I can try and find a contact with The Dumper. He has succeeded in dumping every snes game with special chips (he is an electrical engineer), so he might be able to give you a better idea on how to dump the cart. I'm away this weekend, so I will try to dig up his contact next week for you.
Overdoze
01-08-2007, 10:44 AM
nice!
this the holy grail of snes games :P
this kinda reminds me of the davinci code
this really needs to get preserved in rom format, its one of the few carts out there not dumped
it will happen eventually, im sure of it
its going to be royal pain to figure out
its prolly got the 3 games on it, the front end for the competition with the scores and such, then you got all the different dip switch info to worry about.
jajaja
01-09-2007, 06:37 AM
Isnt it enought to just dump all the EPROMS 1 by 1? If the original should be damaged then just flash the dumped ROMs to a new EPROM chip (or the old if its still working).
Overdoze
01-09-2007, 10:56 AM
http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3093
continued on here at nsrt site :)
alot of expertise is being pulled together for this
rbudrick
02-12-2007, 03:35 PM
its going to be royal pain to figure out
its prolly got the 3 games on it, the front end for the competition with the scores and such, then you got all the different dip switch info to worry about.
Yeah, and the networking feature that links carts together along with the scorekeeper (or referee, or whatever you wante to call him) dude's station.
Sounds like emulator hell to code.
-Rob
Predatorxs
02-12-2007, 04:09 PM
I seem to remember Prehistorik man was a pal snes title, i'm sure all you guys knew that, it just seems abit weird, if the cart has that name?
And the NSRT thread is pretty interesting read as well..
Poofta!
11-21-2007, 01:53 AM
great read, i stumbled upon teh powerfest info from the Pink Godzilla link someone posted earlier today. anyway im curiouse on the status of it all, was it dumped etc,
it seems it was on ebay recently:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SNES-Super-Nintendo-Powerfest-94-Competition-NWC-II_W0QQitemZ150163709376QQihZ005QQcategoryZ62053QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem